Is even the thought of voting for a third party candidate gives you the shivering shits because, by your very act of participation, you are encouraging and strengthening the oligarchical fascist corporatist megalopoly still-not lesser-enough-of-two-evils impure government-sponsored quadrennial orgy of faux self-determination designed to keep people of good and tender conscience trapped on a Möbius strip of self-delusion?
|By: David Swanson Saturday October 20, 2012 1:00 pm|
When I was a philosophy grad student in the ancient times at the U. of Virginia, some over-smart logician pointed out to me that voting is not rational, since a single vote is never decisive. It’s all the other stuff that’s rational: appearing to have voted, applying a sticker to your bumper, registering voters, making phone calls — because all of that stuff has the potential to spread sufficiently to make a difference in the election, or perhaps in a future election or in other forms of civic engagement.
But, of course, unlike the model “persons” in philosophical or economic mental experiments, actual people tend not to be sociopaths. Pretending to vote without voting is far more work than actually voting, which — while it may be irrational — does no harm. And so, good citizens tend to vote even understanding its irrationality, and even when there are no candidates worth voting for.
|By: Red Harvest Sunday September 9, 2012 6:00 pm|
Twenty years ago, independent candidate Ross Perot captured nearly one in five votes cast for President, yet still finished a distant third and failed to win a single electoral vote. Since then, as can be plainly seen from the table and graph below (an abbreviated history of the most significant third party candidacies for President), it’s been all downhill for the anti-duopolists, at least in terms of vote getting, as the most successful third party candidates in each subsequent election managed to capture a progressively smaller percentage of the popular vote.
|By: Jon Walker Wednesday August 1, 2012 11:20 am|
Gary Johnson, the popular former Republican governor of New Mexico, is running for President on the Libertarian Party ticket. He is possibly the most popular third party candidate this cycle, though support is quite small at a national level. While Johnson currently seems to have effectively no chance of winning, he could still be a factor.
|By: Teddy Partridge Wednesday January 25, 2012 6:30 pm|
Here’s a question I’d like to see asked at the next GOP candidates’ debate: Ron Paul always gets asked if he’ll promise not to run against the GOP nominee. I’d like to know if Mitt Romney will make the same promise. After all, he’s not the frontrunner and has all that organization and money and enough ambition . . .
|By: Eli Tuesday December 20, 2011 6:01 pm|
In Which I Compare our Political System and Centrist Third Party Wankers to a Ridiculously Oversimplified Cola War
|By: Eli Friday November 25, 2011 6:01 pm|
You need to have two parties before you can have a third one…
|By: Jane Hamsher Monday August 8, 2011 6:00 am|
Tim F. wanted to know if they thought Elizabeth Warren would make a good third party candidate. Ellsberg said that Warren or Russ Feingold would probably not risk the wrath of the Democratic Party by running. He liked the idea of former Salt Lake City mayor Rocky Anderson, but conceded that few knew who he was.
Michael Moore had two words: “Matt Damon.”
Which immediately drew a chorus of “here here’s” from the participants in chat. Moore said that it’s time we learned something from the GOP who understood there was value in running actors for office, and that if we were interested in winning rather than just making a statement, it was something we should consider.
In closing, Moore said that this was an important conversation to start having, and he thanked Dan and the FDL community for initiating it.
|By: KevinZeese Monday July 4, 2011 8:45 am|
It is a shame to have to ask whether democracy is a mirage in the United States, no doubt most Americans would rather be celebrating U.S. democracy than questioning it. But the reality of the disconnect between government and the people has become so stark it is impossible to ignore.