On November 16, Richard Estes interviewed me on his KDVS program Speaking In Tongues about Burning Man and the recent suicide of Paul Addis. This is part 2 of the interview, in which we talk more about the effects of police and pranksters on countercultures and activist movements.

The heart of this interview by the masterful David Frost turns on Julian Assange’s distinction of anarchy from civility — and the positioning of Wikileaks as organized activity that promotes justice.