Mel Torme and the Frank Wess Orchestra — Swingin’ The Blues, Japan, 1990.
What’s on your mind?
happy thursday pups!
How’s it hangin’ :’)
On edit: Evidently my H key is hit or miss.
Oh so late for me, I’ve been cleaning for MrCE jr and bride arriving tomorrow night.
Well hello. Cold and foggy here in Summertime SF.
I’ve finished my painting and used the cleaned up kitchen to make a Mushroom Zucchini soup with brown lentils, split peas and barley. I used locally grown herbs (rosemary and thyme from a garden). I used the ‘Better than broth” veggie concentrate. It turned out great.
hey tuez — how ya been? perhaps this will help with your missing h
hey ce — how’s cleveland tonight?
I’m coming over for leftovers.
hey spocko – was too hot for soup here :) what’s your next project?
Valet parked cars searched under TSA regulations
A woman who valet-parked her car at Rochester airport returned to find a notice informing her that the valet had searched her car, on orders from the TSA. The TSA does not search cars in the other garages, and they do not provide notice to valet parkers that their cars are subject to search. The TSA says it searches the parked cars because they are stored close enough to the terminal that a bomb could do serious damage.
So I was imaging what the conversation would be like between the TSA and the Valets. I think it would go a little something like this.
TSA to Valet. “Okay, you are going to have to do part of my job starting this week.”
Valet. Okay. How much extra am I going to get paid?
TSA. Nothing. You are helping your country.
Valet. Do you work for free?
TSA. No, but you already have a job this is just a new part of it. We want you to quickly check out the cars you are parking. No big deal.
Valet. What am I looking for?
TSA. Anything unusual, or suspicious–like a package or suitcase, backpacks, anything big enough to contain a bomb.
Valet. A BOMB! ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?! You want ME to sweep for bombs, which is YOUR job and you don’t even want to pay me anything extra?
TSA. Calm down. The odds are very very small that someone will do this, we are all just security theatre remember. We will give you a slip of paper to tell people you searched their car while they were away. I’m sure that they will be grateful that you are protecting them from terrorists and they will give you a bigger tip when you return their car.
Valet. Are you high? They will go ballistic! They already hate you, Stop making them hate me too. YOU do it!
TSA. We can’t, we have our handsful patting down seniors in wheelchairs and making women drink their own breast milk, we are swamped. Come on! Don’t you love America?
Valet. I do and I also love the 4th Amendment.
TSA. Which one is that?
Valet; The one that guards against unreasonable searches and seizures, which requires a warrant to be judicially sanctioned and supported by probable cause.
TSA. Never heard of it. Besides, we don’t follow rules written before 9/11 because 9/11. We get to ignore stuff that gets in the way of protecting everyone.
Valet. I’m not going to do it!
TSA. Do it or you’re fired. Unemployment is so high, we’ll have a hundred people lining up to take your job.
So hot one could hardly breathe the air. At lunch, I left the building and put up an umbrella. Everyone laughed, and then a man coming up behind us, pulled an umbrella from his knapsack, and popped it open. Et Voila!
wow… i like that spocko (the script – not the fucking facts it is based on)
i turned on the ac when i got up noonish. i hate waking up feeling sweety. got it off now and the doors and windows open… tis a very comfy 73 outside at the moment
Oh that is so nice. Terribly hot here still. We are still in awe of our new system.
i’m still enjoying the room a/c too :) so far i’m not seeing much of a jump in my electric bill… but we are not at those horrible dog days of summer that are so blasted hot…
Thanks! I’m actually thinking of making another one of those PowToons about guns in schools. When Dearie said it was “logical” I though uh oh! I need to make one emotional to counter the emotions that will be used to arm teachers.
You see after any school shooting the people who want to arm teachers and administrators get another news story to point to as an excuse to arm teachers.
To counter this fear I can use fact and statistics but what I will do is use another fear. The fear that arming teachers will not lead to a safer school but to a scarier school. I can use fear of accidents with guns, fear of teachers using the gun as a “motivational tool”, fear of students getting the gun. Then I work on the other fears, the whole tone of the school changes and the teacher student dynamic. Yes they are supposed to protect the kids, but have none of us ever seen an angry teacher? Have none of us never seen a kid pushing the limit?
Then of course there are the costs and the reality that even when there have been armed guards it hasn’t stopped people, but adding guns into the mix will increase the odd of negligent gun incidents.
And my target audience for this is the parent who feels that they are being railroaded into putting teachers with guns in the schools, but don’t know how to respond to the fear of parents who think that every school is a target and the best solution to guns is more guns.
coming home baby
Yes I’ve been missing in action, sorry. The spousal unit has been getting home from work about the time LLN goes up, so I go…
Spocko I heard that about the TSA today. Makes no sense.
Glad all seems well with the LLN denizens.
spocko — i thought you were supposed to be logical :)
i also liked your idea about targetting the refusal of insurance companies …. the school would eventually find some ‘ins co’ but at what cost to the schools? does the football coach lose his job to pay for the policy?
*waving to the spousal unit*
Okay think about this. I live in Orlando, 20 miles from Sanford. My husband works in Sanford actually. So we are at the center of the Zimmerman/Martin issue. Yesterday, a guy who owns a car repair shop about 2 blocks away came by wanting to know if I had a couple teenagers. I don’t. Turns out, one of his employees had caught two kids contemplating a “smash and grab” of a car in his parking lot. The employee chased the kids into my yard but then lost sight of them from the road. The employee was afraid to chase them into my yard for fear of getting shot. I don’t do guns. It was rather sobering for me to have someone express a fear of getting shot by me or my husband, as we don’t roll like that.
Remember if what George Zimmerman said is true, about calling for help, but no one came, it’s because they were afraid of getting shot.
No, schools will never give up the football coach! They’ll give up the school nurse, counselor, librarian, music teacher…. but never the football coach!
And, gee, I liked spocko’s PSA because it WAS logical. But, yeah, I guess one has to counter emotion with emotion….. as we all go down the rabbit hole. “:(
not just a florida problem nor a recent one…. the kitty genovese case was in 1964
I’ve always stepped in to help others, but if I lived in Florida (or any of the other Stand Your Ground/gun happy states) I, for sure!, would never, ever step into a fray. I’ve got enough day-to-day problems without walking into a shooting gallery.
hey dearie — how’s the coast tonight? i thought spocko had to be logical — that it was in his nature. i like logical solutions but it seems this country runs on emotions lately
ella and mel
Yes, emotion….. while the country is having a nervous breakdown!
The coast is good. I don’t want to brag (or jinx myself), but I’m so glad I live in CA and not in one of the crazy states~! And I lived in plenty of the states that are now going after women in the worst way…. TX and OH, for example….also lived in AZ, which used to be such a nice place!
i spent a lotta time knocking on wood to avoid jinxing the weather at the coast house :)
PS: Spocko… I really liked your PSA and hope you will do more and get them widely distributed. You do good work.
seriously, i used to think that when i was in ca… thankful that women’s protections were safe there. sadly, i wonder how long it will last
Well Dearie. I appreciated your comment because I wanted it to be logical. I believe in using multiple methods via multiple venues. Each one appeals to different audiences.
So for example for the insurance one, I could call up EMC the company that pulled out of Kansas schools who are arming teachers and ask, “So, what were the numbers you ran that showed you that insuring teachers was too costly? Can you give me some figures? Will other insurance companies have the same figures? Can you tell me of some examples of schools where you had to pay out a lot because of an armed teacher?”
Also, I know the various lines that the pro-arming teachers people use. And I need emotion to counter them. Not just logic, even though logic does under pin my views.
“You talk about money when it comes to protecting your children’s lives!?
When seconds count the cops are only minutes away.
The only thing that stops a bad person with a gun is a good person with a gun and I want that good person to be my child’s teacher.
“Gun free zones don’t work! They attract shooters! Why not call it a “vicitm disarmament zone.”
Do you want your kid to die in the next Sandy Hook? If we don’t arm our teachers they will! And when your kid is dead I’ll bet you WISH you didn’t block the armed teachers!”
One of the things I want to do is find examples of negligence when it comes to guns around schools and do some follow up in that community. Instead of a shooting from outside I want to go to them with “this was an amatuer who thought they were safer with a gun, but it ended up shooting someone else. Every person with a gun you introduce into the equation is one more chance for death. You will have to start being afraid of mistakes because the price of a mistake with armed teachers is much greater than with out.”
I’ve always helped others too, which is why the conversation I had with the repair shop owner was such a shock. To think someone I don’t even know (I’ve actually said hi to him while out walking the dog, but didn’t think of that until later)would just assume someone in this house would shoot someone for running through the front yard. It just floored me, I still don’t know what to make of it.
I like your work! Keep it up. We need more of you on our side!
Good evening, Suz..! and lln pups..!
i hope you pointed out to him that he didn’t hear any gunshots when the kid ran through your yard…..
hey past — how’s slc tonight?
Hell, the dog didn’t even bother to bark.
No one knows anymore who’s got the guns. When I lived in Ohio, a friend’s daughter was on the phone with a boyfriend when a gun went off. That kid died….. just a gun in the house that his pal accidentally shot off. Another kid grabbed his dad’s gun off the top of the frig and shot himself in the head. That kid survived, but in a whole nother state of intelligence. Guns, and more guns. Insanity.
And the house I bought in a fine community was owned by a family that moved to KY…. their kid shot and killed his step-brother and stepmother. The cops were at my house through the night until the shooter, a 16 year old schizophrenic, was apprehended so that he didn’t come and wipe out my family. No, I don’t much like guns at random.
When I go to the various gun’s right boards they love to talk about how they will shoot people if they dare to enter their home. They are quite clear about it. Then every day my friend Kargo X and the Ohh Shoot blog tell another story about someone shooting an “intruder’ that is really a relative or a neighbor.
I like to be fair with these stories, I know that they run stories of all the home invasions that they stop with their guns. But of course those are self reported we don’t know how many times they didn’t self report close calls that were wrong. Also, why not get a dog? An Alarm system? Other non-lethal defense? my friend in canada thinks its strange that lethal force is the first response instead of the last.
exactly — if he had thought about it he wudda realized that but he was responding from a fear based place instead of a logical one
I had another proposal that I was working on. This is for the insurance companies (one of the few institutions who lose money when there is gun violence who can see the benefit of greater gun safety and fewer guns)
Remember when smoke detectors first became available? The insurance companies really pushed them (and fire extinguishers) then it was a suggestion to everyone. Later it became the law (at least it is in SF) this is spending 30 bucks to save 300,000 that’s a great savings.
So how about insurance companies partner with gun safe and gun lock companies to offer discounts on safes and on insurance? This turns owning a safer gun into a good thing. The gun people keep telling us guns aren’t going to go away, so why would they have a problem with keeping the guns that everyone has safer? And if they say, “This is just making it harder for the law abiding gun owner!” The response is, “Don’t you believe in gun safety? Okay, well then you don’t get the discount in insurance that the safe gun owners do. And when you shoot your kid by mistake or they blow their brains out because they were playing, well don’t come crying to us.”
The key here is to turn being gun safe into a benefit. They should see the benefit of the arrangement. The people who don’t have to pay more, because they are going to cost the insurance companies more. The responsible gun owners I know already do this so they are fine with it.
Sorry if I scared everyone off…. I actually like target shooting and am quite good at it, but I would rather not have a gun in the house. I’d for sure have offed my ex if I’d had one because he used to like to come home from swing shift and rattle doors to scare me. If I were to take him out, I’d rather have done it with a rolling pin…. in the parlor.
Go for it~
The loonies, though, feel certain that they need a loaded and cocked gun by their bed in the night. Let ‘em pay for the privilege!
a pleasant 70 degrees under clear moonlit sky tonight. it may have gotten up to to 100 today, was predicted but I didn’t watch the TV-weather guy tonight.
i like it spocko.
you didn’t scare anyone off dearie — its been very quiet at lln lately
iirc my weather dood showed you hit 103 on his weather map tonight
Nah. They are just falling asleep reading my long posts :-)
I had a former girlfriend whose roommate had a gun. We were talking about the problems with this. Say for example she hadn’t told her that I was going to be spending the night. I would have had to walk through her room to the bathroom in the middle of the night. As far as she knew, in the dark with out her glasses I was an intruder in her bedroom. That could be a mistake that we might have a hard time recovering from.
Thanks, Suz. I hadn’t actually ever added up the gun tragedies I’ve been close to. Of course I worked with juvenile delinquents and their families for years, but most of the gun junk wasn’t related to that.
One was though. I had a ‘probate’ who took off with friends and decided to steal a fancy car…. they took one of the friend’s dad’s guns with them. My ‘probate’ shot a woman in the face in KY or TN as the ‘boys’ had the husband on his knees begging for mercy as they stole his fancy car. Nice boys from a Catholic school in OH. They went to federal prison, but they were so ‘nice’ that I’m sure they all got out early.
When I left Ohio I made everyone I knew promise that they would never reveal where I’d gone!!!
A lady friend of my niece is in the Nat Guard and always carries a pistol under her belt behind her back. She spent 8 mos in Afghanistan, but if I remember right, she was ‘carrying’ even before going there. Not sure of the reasoning behind it – partly to appear ‘in control’ and partly to show off, I’m guessing.
Thanks. One of the things I really try and keep in mind is my friends who are gun owners. Most of them are hunters, but the ones who are former military are much much more safety conscious than some I know, and they are down with lots of training for people who carry and safe storage. And so a proposal like this would be fine. “Hey, you get to save money for being a safe gun owner, which you already are!” It’s like with car insurance, you get discounts for being a safe driver. That is the model that I’m using.
I also would like to see more pets instead of guns in homes :-)
when i was 18, my 3 and 4 year old stepsons found a loaded gun at their mom’s hidden in a shoe box on the floor of her closet and had a pulling contest over the gun. unfortunately, the 3 year old lost the contest and his life. i do not like guns in the home unless they are locked up in a gun safe.
I’m all for dogs. Security is one of the reasons I keep them around. That and I’m a sucker for a cute face.
My husband is a gun lover but even he doubts he would take out a gun if someone broke in. He’s too afraid that in the heat of the moment he’d accidentally shoot me or the dog.
A couple of years ago we had a couple nasty assed pitbulls show up in the yard (I don’t have a problem with pitbulls per se, but these had all the signs of fighting dogs, including heavy chains around their necks with padlocks). They showed up a month after our dog had passed. I made the comment to my husband that if Remy had still been alive, he’d have had to shoot the pitbulls or they would have killed Remy. He said there was no way he’d have even attempted to shoot one dog in a dog fight, as he doesn’t have the training to do it. The thought of accidentally shooting his own dog was more than he could even think about.
I’m going to hope she knows some gun safety stuff.
tis time for me to take token out to save a blade of grass. thanks for letting me hang out with ya tonight
g’nite all — happy dreams
A friend is a gun nut, but he has a big gun safe in the basement. Of course, that pretty much negates the “I’ll shoot the fucker coming through the door” approach. People who keep guns in unsafe conditions are beyond my understanding.
If we get more gun crazy, then parents are going to have to ask other parents if they have guns in the home before letting their children go over to play. I don’t think enough parents know that yet.
Oh, she does have gun safety training and uses it. But as she mentioned once when someone asked, she just wants to be ‘ready’ in ‘case something happens.’ Kinda like some of the reasons one would hear or expect from the NRA national spokespersons.
sleep well, Suz.!
Well, I kinda think the ‘in case something happens’ horse has left the barn. Perhaps it is time to focus on what actually happens! I don’t think people actually understand how many ‘accidents’ actually happen.
So much about that is the need to feel in control. There is also a lot of fantasy around carrying. I know this is true, I read the gun boards and talk to people. They love the fantasy more than reality. If they are actually in a position to act things get real and it is often not pretty. In my fantasy I win every arguement and sink every put. In the real world I don’t.
agree with you wholeheartedly on that.!
true, for some it’s an adult form of “dress-up”
Agreed. Every gun owner I know can tell you close call stories. The YouTube has a entire section of “accidental” shooting where someone messes up with a gun. They play it for laughs!
They also call it an accident. I call it negligence. In handling, storage or transporting.
Thanks, All, for the interesting discussion. Happy dreams.
Off to bed thanks for chatting!
I think very few people think things through. I’m glad my husband does. I’m not against gun ownership but I question how much thought gun owners put into it. I’d actually prefer he not have guns but as he does…
I’m outta here too. Night all
sweet dreams, Dearie.! Think I’ll call it a night too. ‘Nite, spocko, tuezday & pups.
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