Well, it’s that time of the year again. We get to listen to a right-of-center Democrat speak, followed by a Tea Party Senator delivering a GOP rebuttal, followed by yet another Tea Party Senator delivering a Tea Party rebuttal. So, kinda like the Sunday talk shows.
Jon Walker has read the tea leaves guest list and predicts an emphasis on immigration, gun control and health care, but that’s probably just because White House staff couldn’t find anyone with a heartwarming we-need-to-cut-Social-Security-in-order-to-protect-it story. Also jobs and troop withdrawals, yay.
Oh, and there may also be split-screen coverage for those who can’t make up their minds whether they’d rather watch a State Of The Union address or an insane fiery standoff with a killer cop. Should do subliminal wonders for the far right’s Obama-is-a-scary-black-man narrative. I’m kinda hoping that maybe next year we can just scrap this whole format completely, and replace it with the Google+ Hangout Of The Union, or maybe the Reddit AMA Of The Union.




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ELI!!
ELLIOTT!!
…So, kinda like the Sunday talk shows…
*heh* But thar’s a cabin burning up in dem dar hills…! ;-)
Oh good, looks like NBC at least will not be split-screening. I’m assuming the Fox News coverage will be split-screened the whole way.
thanks, Eli. i was hoping someone would watch or listen so i don’t have to. this is 2nd pResident and 12th year of “i know he’s lying ’cause his lips are moving.”
Aloha, Eli…! So you drew the shortest matchstick…? ;-)
Steven Roslin, er, Chu will be your Designated Survivor tonight.
Thanks for hosting this, Eli. I don’t think I could watch this if I couldn’t watch it with the FDL crowd of smart&feisty.
Aloha, CTut…! I kinda like liveblogging, actually. I watch most television trading mocking texts with my girlfriend, so this is just a typical evening for me.
*heh* Have ya got your basket of socks handy, M’dear…? ;-)
I’m ready to throw real rocks….. and then ‘retire’ from political interest and maybe just get on with my life. :)
who is Steven Roslin?
Hey All,
I’m gonna try to stick with it.
What’s the drinking word/words tonight?
Battlestar Galactica reference. Laura Roslin is the Secretary Of Education who becomes President by default because the rest of the government is dead.
Been missing you. Hope all is well.
I cannot watch him. Let me know how it turns out.
Call me at home if he announces he’s saying, “No,” to the XL Pipeline or that he’s increasing the benefits for Social Security or that he’s shut down Gitmo or has reinstated habeas corpus. That last could also be a joint statement re drones.
I have been eagerly awaiting the drinking word. It gives one something to enjoy during these paeans to democracy.
I’d ask for your number, but…
Why is Cheney first seat at the door?
“Jobs” would be too easy, right?
I took a break. Still driving Miss Daisy. She is not well at all.
I miss you too! Very much, my dear friend.
‘Zactly!
How’s about Chained-CPI…?
Eli, you’re a doll to do this and I appreciate it.
Will be lurking. Prolly, mostly. :)
War, economy, Social Security, Education…
You name it, we’ll all be passed out 10 minutes from now.
I’d like to see a stop put to the rah-rah. Just tell it like it is, Mr. Pres., and without all the hoopla and kabuki.
“…In a responsible way…”
Is prolly good for 4 or 5 shots. He LOVES “responsible.”
I’ll drink to that…
I think Kelly’s got it.
I can’t watch either. I am depending on you guys keeping me sane through the experience of not watching.
right-of-center
speak.
Carry on.
Not that I’m watching. Purfleet is sitting on my lap, and we’re contemplating pictures.
“Our brave men and women in uniform are coming home…..” Big applause. Why didn’t the damned Congress just put a stop to the “grinding war” years and years ago!
Heh – have a sneak copy of the prepared remarks.
“deserves a vote” is a good snocker phrase if’n you need to catch a buzz…
Oh, puleeeze, just tell them to sit on their hands til he’s done. Quit the crap.
BiPartison!
Oh, that’s it. Gotta be the word.
Some economic populism noises now…
Want to save the middle class, Mr. Pres? Put the friggin’ banksters in jail!
O *almost* said that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few… or the one.
Try this color-coding by Lambert Strether. Might give ya hints… ;oP
…And back to bipartisanism.
“responsible” is good for 3 shots.
Great choice…!
bipartisan gets 4 shots! Drink now!
folks, he also likes the word folks.
embrace the need for gutting medicare
Drumroll for Chained CPI…!
So seniors are just going to be asked to shoulder *some* of the austerity burden? Awesome!
More austerity talk.
More “shared burden”.
ZOOM!
I lost the tweet feed and this page I was laughing so hard.
Single payer now!
I had to go swap out some laundry. Did I miss anything? No? I didn’t think so.
“Termilogical Inexactitude”
That one is priceless!
amen
“We must keep the promises we’ve already made (to the Powers-That-Be)”.
Thanks to all those who are watching and commenting so I don’t have to turn the teevee on.
entitlement deform!
“Now is the best time to ____ (because you’re never going to get another Democratic president who can get so much past Democratic and Independent voters)”.
Deficit will take our jeorbs!
How about “strengthen?”
“the greatest nation on earth”
Yes, *especially* if it’s in quotes.
we work too hard for too long…until we die, which will be not soon enough.
Boehner looks sad, but at least he doesn’t look drunk this time. Oooops, is that a big glass of vodka I see?
He’s doing the normal routine. “Cut the deficit, spur the economy”
Can’t wait till he figures out what his plans are to do it, since he poo-pooed all the ones we gave him 5 years ago.
The nerve of this man. It’s his legislation that’s “bridging”, short term legislation, from “crisis to crisis”.
Wait… hard work *doesn’t* automatically lead to money and success? Who knew?
“broad based growth” Does he have one of these binders Romney left behind?
I’ve heard this speech many times. It’s cobbled together campaign speeches.
ELI!
It’s impossible to describe how little interested I am in the SOTU but when I saw your fonts, I had to stop in and say hey. It’s great to see them. :)
ELI! FDLers!
Gonna light up. Boner’s a jerk. Nice tie on VP.
That would probably explain why I’m completely bored to tears.
MARGARET!
Great to see you too!
BG!
I believe his strategy is to slash SSMM to save the country from the evil deficit.
The speech does seem to be a repeat of a repeat.
HOLY MOSES! He said manufacturing right here in America!
Wow. Just what would that be since everything has been shipped to China?
Oh, research and development. Nevermind. GE will hire you for 22K a year.
Green ribbons are for gun safety? Chained CPI? St. Paddy’s Day?
Watching the tweets on Cspan. Who the hell is JEC Republican?
I think he may have missed the externalities in the fracking bills.
Is it just me or does it look like he’s gotten a fresh haircut (to highlight the gray)?
You can see I am just going for the visuals, words mean jack. Boner’s blue shirt equals less orange face?
Yeah, specially since he can’t play chess in any dimension.
Damn! Climate change makes it into a SOTU. Okay, I’m good with that.
Now would be a very good time to hack the emergency alert system to hoax the beginning of the zombie apocalypse.
There’s a lot of typing here with no listening when it comes to the facts of the words actually spoken.
Solar, wind, and so should we. Ha-ha. But, speed up new oil and gas permits.
Obama’s praising Joe Lieberman and John McCain? I’m gonna need a bigger glass.
Say more…..
Words are meaningless SOTU kind of like STFU.
He will work with the states and give federal help to get it done for the best hiring in green jobs
Guilty. I’m not listening at all. But then I’m not commenting on it either.
LOL! Great post, eh? Glad it made ya laugh.
I take it that the ‘State of the Union’ is strong?
(Puke)
OMG, Hawaii’s Electric(and Gas) bills haven’t seen any downward movement, whatsoever…! We’re only looking at higher rates since they want us to publically finance their state-wide conversion of their crude Oil plants over to LNG fueled plants, and even publically subsidize the Port facilities to handle the LNG…! *gah*
Fix it first!
Oh God! sounds too much like shovel ready
Rebuild America. Yeah=Yeah. Do tell.
Al Franken with the grimmest applause I have ever seen…
As Occupy The Hood just said on Twitter, “Never feel like he is talking to my block”.
My streaming is broken. TG!
Home purchases are up 50% from what…0?
Greg Mitchell @GregMitch
3 ties on podium in silent tribute to the Teletubbies.
It did. I’m stealing the one above. I like it too much to let it go.
Next to that fossil, difi.
And he’s next to DiFi……no wonder he’s grim!
LOL!
I’m enjoying the typing.
Right. You were not a target of my comment.
I do love the fact free shit of others though.
Passing the pipe to you.
Obama has proposed a whole bunch of things, but they all sound pretty small-potatoes so far.
Peace! We’ll all get through this somehow.
Head Start. It’s been a while since that’s been a political hot potato. Hillary must be running.
retry?
http://www.c-span.org/SOTU/
…and plenty cotton pickin’ chitlins doin’ time for pot.
Wow, Chuck Schumer *really* likes associate degrees.
I get by with a little help from my friends.
On Twitter, Karl Rove @KarlRove tweets:
Fix-It-First is $50B, almost as much as new revenues from raising taxes in fiscal cliff (that money was already spent on Sandy relief)
Sounds like we’re getting some more “shovel-ready” projects.
Would you like for me to take a break? I need a refill anyway.
I know but it gave me an opportunity to say hi! ;)
*wow* Colleges must keep the costs down…? Not the Usurious Banksters…?
Please stay. The snarky asides make the whole event bearable.
I’m not really seeing his college scorecard/bang-for-your-buck evaluation strategy make higher education all that much more affordable. But I guess it *sounds* good…
LOL. From G. Palast:
Greg Palast@Greg_Palast
Doubt global warming? Just look at the sunburn Boehner got in Ohio
You ARE a great friend! For all the talk/talk/talk, you take action, and I admire that so much.
*heh* ‘Ere, M’dear…! *koff*
Talking about the women….. Senate passed Violence Against Women Act and House should,too. I can cheer for that!
Paycheck Fairness. YEAH!
I’m for higher ed, too.
Banksters are untouchable. Cspan is running the Congress critter’s tweets as well as SOTU. Added entertainment value. Hope there is some factual content here…
Full time work should be sustaining. I agree, but this is, after all, talk/talk/talk. Make it happen!
Fuckers sitting on their hands for the $9/hr. Shit.
“a wage you can live on”
I go for that
*heh* The Higher the better, even…! ;-)
Tying the minimum wage to the cost of living… good.
Tying the minimum wage to CEO pay… better.
The Little Prick (Paul Ryan) sneers at tying minimum wage to cost of living rise.
of course you wouldn’t bogart
$9 will do it!
$20/hr. would float many a boat, Ellie…!
Tie it to CEO pay and we’d get there in five years, tops.
$9/hour is $18,720. …. try living on that in, say, California.
*heh* Certainly not Moi…! ;-)
No need for him to worry while he lives on Gov pay for the
rest of his life. Hypocrisy?
Hmph! I’m making 63% of what I was making in my last job and the benefits are like the difference between a brand new Ferrari and a 1969 Chevrolet Beater. Then I get to hear sanctimonious DC pundits and the politicians who cut funding for my old job preach about “shared sacrifice”, while the wealthy sit on record surpluses. Yeah, I value my television too much, (because I can’t afford a new one), to put it in that kind of danger.
As a member of the “Die Poor People!” Caucus, he is obligated to do so.
How very true…!
“Today the organization that attacked us is a shadow of its former self.”
Does the shadow government cast a shadow?
Yep. Not liveable here.
Boehner is starting to look bilious. I think I said that at about this stage of last year’s speech. At least he is consistent.
You know, of course, that raising the wage, even a few cents, will cause inflation, right?
*aargh* Iran has no intention of obtaining a Nuclear Weapon, Period…! *gah*
Here it comes. CISPA.
The contempt runs down like a river.
How about a government guaranteed job for everyone? Plus the benefits.
“bipartisan” gets 4 claps from Biden and none from Boner.
The invisible hand hates to see the undeserving eking out a living? Makes sense, we need a lower class to do better than. How else can the well off feel smugly superior?
Ooh… He did sign the EO on ‘CyberWar’… That should give y’all pause for concern…! 8-(
Wait…you’re going eradicate poverty by connecting people to the global economy? Hello? NAFTA? Mexico?
Not sure why cyber-enemies would try to take control of America’s financial sector in order to destroy America. America’s financial sector has proven capable of doing that all by themselves.
Dumpster diving. That’s what they want. Easier to control that way.
Boner claps for “AIDS free generation?” wow.
Eggs-actly…! 8-(
Wtf, is this noise about an Atlantic TPP and/or Global crap…? *gah*
That is a freaking sick joke.
Ha!
TWOOPH!
truth x 2 + oomph!
Oh, that was great – he talks about insisting on everyone respecting human rights, and then goes straight on to his unwavering support for Israel…
By “best military” he means, “worst peace.”
Hey, PP, folks at Over Easy were asking about you! Where ya been?
He’s, like, um, magic!
He thought O said federal aid free generation…
See? State of the Union or state of cognitive dissonance?
Well, ya know the US has to own everything on the planet except the blame.
No doubt…! 8-(
I once took notes throughout one of Bush II’s SOTU speeches….. it was such a hoot!
Oh right, voting. I forgot to include his half-assed voting reform commission in my preview.
LOL, I didn’t figure it out. Too much dope here.
What Ideals…?
Hey, Friend.
Took a break. Plus taking care of Miss Daisy. My heart just hurt too much after losing SD and Scarecrow.
Boner doesn’t need no stinkin’ voter.
Please let Hans Von Spakovsky not be one of the commissioners…
I always thought his name sounded like a (fake) European porn star.
Amen, my friend. Special people both.
I’m having a really hard time with his proposals, especially when he wants Pirate Jack—Lew to be in charge of America’s Treasure.
I was thinking maybe more like Colonel Klink’s hilariously incompetent boss on Hogan’s Heroes…
Is that Petraes’ girlfriend in the box with Michelle?
You mean he isn’t a fake European porn star???? Who knew!
Did I just read upstream where someone asked why congress does not just end the war ??? WHAT !!??
Has this become a fantasy blog ? Since when does congress ever end a war ?
They wuvs their defense contractors too much.
LMAO!
“They deserve a vote”
I like that
The half-assedness of his college affordability strategy bothered me. How about actually helping students pay their tuition?
They do deserve a vote!! Go ahead assholes vote no so we can all see you.
What kind of “facts” could O possibly be presenting in his SOTU?
His method of communication is by definition fact free.
Moral hazard…
Von Spanky
Deserve a vote refrain was powerful.
General Burkhalter.
X2
X3
How about all the money the Fed, State, and Corps give to colleges, American kids get FREE tuition!
*heh* Both, my Better Half, and 18yro Son are snoring blissfully away…! ;-)
Wasn’t his name Burkhalter?
HANDS Von Spankovsky
Apparently. I was just saying that was what his name conjured up…
LOL!
Obama is giving a crap speech. Not interesting. Not relevant.
That would be hilarious though. Too bad he wasn’t well known during that programs heyday. Maybe they could have worked it in.
At the very least, you should be able to go to a state school in-state for free or dirt cheap. Didn’t in-state tuition used to be in the low thousands per year?
Lackluster.
Spankoffsky
Well, when I went it was dirt cheap. In state, that is.
You miss my point. People on this thread were saying counterfactual words than what Obama was actually saying.
That’s different than policy observations.
I’m just saying fundamentals count. Getting the words right count.
Even better. I’m going to bed early I think. Oya!
yep – look at the master plan for higher ed in ca – 1960
Did anyone see that dick, Nugent?
Cram down the Student Loan rates, alongside the underwater mortgages, make the Banksters eat their own over-leveraged losses…! How easy, eh…? *gah*
I went to a State U (grantedly, some time ago) and used books cost more than the tuition.
better!
lolol
I swapped out the laundry again and missed the ending of the show. Did I miss anything?
So now we get to hear not one but two rebuttals. Maybe three even.
NOPE!
Anything he said will be harped on for weeks coming. Hang around to see the rebuttle from the rising star.
Yep…and he kept threatening to send Klink to the Russian front.
ELI!
So, what’s up, seems you’re all watching the same thing on tv…
Taylor Swift is giving the rebutt?
What’s up with ABC having George Will, Donna Brazile, Matthew Dowd and others joining Sawyer and Stephanopoulous to tell us what the President just said?
Isn’t it bad enough when only two people tell us?
This media idea that a group expressing their own respective biases and distortions is better than one person sticking to facts is inane.
QUEBECOIS!
I’m not sure she even has one butt.
Nope, Yes.
Who’s doing rebuttals tonight?
Rubio and Paul. Rubio is also doing one in Spanish.
SPANISH SPEAKERS – stick around. Let’s make sure Rubio says the same shit in English as in Spanish.
With Rand Paul, that won’t be necessary, as his speech will be entirely in Randish, which a mere 1% understand.
SPLURT!
I guess. Bob Dole isn’t there.
Jill Stein
http://www.livestream.com/greenpartyus
Ah yes, but that is the important one percent. Serfs and peasants need not attend.
Here come Rubio. Will it be English first?
Rubio up.
Rand Paul. Every year the rebutts get crazier. Jindal was hard to surpass, but they keep finding ‘em.
Teeth! Blessed!
Hey, yeah, he went with the tradition.
Yay!
A second chance for those whose drinking words were poverty, foreclosure, homelessness, unemployment, bailouts, outsourcing, civil liberties,etc.
That middle class is so freakin’ over.
That’ll happen.
Tax borrow and spend more. Soooooo that’s bad?
Have to laugh. I just read the Conrad Hilton autobiography, and yes he did make his own way up in the world. 3rd generation of his success: Paris Hilton. That says it all. Tax The Rich!
I don’t need a drinking word for Rubio. His car salesman face is enough.
Rubio does the twist. What a phoney~!
Snort.
OK. What did I miss, besides the whole speech? Doctor’s orders. They don’t make a blood pressure medicine strong enough to let me watch one of those things safely.
Rubio is good. He frames his lies quite well. That’s why he is on the short list for next time around.
Here’s Rubio’s English remarks as prepared:
Now listen when the Spanish comes up…
Shorter Rubio:
It’s a wonderful day in the neighborhood. Don’t let Obama mess it up.
Rubio all for opening federal lands for rape of resources….. rob the commonwealth for the benefit of the rich. Argh!!!!!
What an ass. He has the “we are so reasonable and the rest of them are vicious smear artists” plaint down, doesn’t he?
.
Decent wage, is he voting for $9?
I love the threats about fewer jobs and shorter hours due to gov regulations. Nah that’s bs. There are so many unemployed that is how they control the workforce. Or should I say discipline it. He is speaking for the one percent.
The thing that the Rs miss is that Rubio does NOT appeal to Hispanics out west. He’s friggin’ Cubano and that has nothing to do with what Hispanics are dealing with. He’s not their man.
DSWright Liveblogs the rebuttals
http://news.firedoglake.com/2013/02/12/live-blog-rubio-and-rand-respond-to-obama-sotu/
*heh* A Safe, and, Responsible
DrillingEnergy policy…! Ask Shell, how’s that working out in Alaska, Rubio…! ;-)My head is about to explode.
Exactly! There is a big difference between Latinos and Hispanics.
Rubio response = “Termilogical Inexactitude” terminally. “Gulp”
Balanced budget amendment would result in more gridlock. No budget can be guaranteed to be in balance, ever. But it would allow the one percent to control spending more than the debt limit now does.
There’s a bit of frantic about him………
Create New taxpayers. Hmm, that’s a twist.
Where’s Randy Man? I’m bored with Rubio already.
No more taxes? Yes, for the middle class. But for the top one percent, how about sixty percent for over four hundred thou.? That would help balance the budget and level the income gaps.
Both English and Spanish by Rubio as prepared for delivery – Politico
Rubio is bought and paid for by the Kochs.
Of course he will push drilling and opening up federal lands for the Kochs to exploit.
I know, I know, I am preaching to the choir.
Rubio just Jindalled himself.
This is clearly a specious argument for the Rs. Nothing in here but lies and damn lies and half truths.
Mathews says this was tinker toys? Huh?
He wiped the sweat from his brow and gulped at the glass. I don’t remember much else.
DSWright Liveblogs the postbuttals
http://news.firedoglake.com/2013/02/12/live-blog-rubio-and-rand-respond-to-obama-sotu/
Rubio is not ready for prime time. He was as bad as Jindal.
The water bottle reach will define it.
Specious. But wait for Randian. That will double down on it.
Dammit I KNEW it! They would NOT broadcast Rubio actually speaking the Spanish!
Fools. How do they expect to attract Hispanics if they actually don’t show …oh never mind.
Anyways, at first glance, not anything to grouse about in translation.
Thank you Eli! *smooch*
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