In Slate, Fred Kaplan sums up today’s White House summit meeting regarding Afghanistan:
If there were any doubts, President Obama’s press conference today with Afghan president Hamid Karzai should dispel them: We are so out of there, at least as a full-bore fighting force, and sooner than previously scheduled.
NATO had planned, with Karzai’s assent, to pull out all Western combat forces from Afghanistan by the end of 2014. But Obama said today that he will scale back U.S. troops to a “support role” starting this spring—that is, sometime in the next few months.
I can’t say I’m surprised. More than three years ago, I wrote here that Obama’s only real decision in Afghanistan was how to manage the United States’ inevitable defeat. Sure, he wound up announcing a “surge” of 30,000 troops, but it was clear to me that this was meant to serve the same purpose as George Bush’s similar 2007 gambit in Iraq: that is, postponing and camouflaging our surrender, rather than avoiding it.
Here’s how the New York Times back then described Obama’s decision:
… as his top military adviser ran through a slide show of options, Mr. Obama expressed frustration. He held up a chart showing how reinforcements would flow into Afghanistan over 18 months and eventually begin to pull out, a bell curve that meant American forces would be there for years to come.
“I want this pushed to the left,” he told advisers, pointing to the bell curve. In other words, the troops should be in sooner, then out sooner.
When the history of the Obama presidency is written, that day with the chart may prove to be a turning point, the moment a young commander in chief set in motion a high-stakes gamble to turn around a losing war.
That last paragraph was not only embarrassingly melodramatic, but misguided. What Obama meant by “pushing it to the left” was that although he was unwilling to directly challenge the scheme proposed by the military establishment, he had no faith in it and wanted to get it over with as soon as possible.
Kaplan, writing today, gets this right, noting that “back in 2009, Obama announced when the pullout would begin at the same time that he announced the surge,” and also arguing that Obama:
… treated the strategy as an experiment; he gave it 18 months to work, and his generals assured him that would be enough time for the Afghan military to take the lead in a majority of the country’s districts, even though some of them knew very well it would take longer. They gambled that enough progress would be made to convince the president to give them more time and more troops. They gambled wrong.
And if the cost for refusing to confront the generals right away is several hundred U.S./NATO military deaths (not to mention likely far greater Afghan casualties)… well, unfortunately, that’s our cautious, consensus-seeking president for you.
It’s certainly a helluva a lot of “last men to die for a mistake.”
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Politicians are always reluctant to admit defeat and generals even more so. They also do not learn from history. We could no more win this war than we could Vietnam or Iraq, and for the same reasons.
U.S. has to get ready to destabilize Latin America. Afghanistan is so yesterday.
If he’s clever, he’ll time it to delay the collapse to be in the term of an unelected President.
Now can we lay to rest the idea that a foreign government (the US) can do counterinsurgency in another country without draconian brutality? Or drop the farce that the objective was something other than “destroy the village”?
It would also be helpful to have some formal declaration of victory so that the Dolchstoßlegende gang doesn’t stampede us into the next one to “cure the Afghanistan syndrome”.
Chavez being sick will certainly help that along. After all, the first major step was “fast and furious” in Mexico.
“We didn’t lose Vietnam! It was a tie!”
–Otto, A Fish Called Wanda
How did the U.S. make sure Chavez got such a virulent form of cancer. Inquiring minds….
So now the United States has lost three horrible wars in a row (counting the fighting in Iraq from 1991-2007 as one extended conflict).
This actually has more to do with Karzai’s refusal to extend the SOFA beyond 2014, just like Maliki refused to do so in Iraq, than with Obama’s magnamity, Karzai flatly told him today, ‘No Way, Jose’…!
U.S. still got extraterritoriality and drones.
Not really, eCAHN, read this McClatchy article…
…For his part, the Afghan president appeared to have accepted Obama’s non-negotiable demand that any U.S. force that remains in Afghanistan after 2014 is subject to the U.S. Uniform Code of Military Justice but receives immunity from Afghan law.
“I can go to the Afghan people and argue for immunity for U.S. troops in Afghanistan in a way that Afghan sovereignty would not be compromised,” said Karzai, who asserted that the immunity issue was as important to the U.S. as “sovereignty and detentions and the continued presence of international forces in Afghan villages” are for Afghans.
At the first Loya Jirga, Karzai will be laughed outta the tent…! Besides, if Karzai actually keeps his word and not seek re-election, he’ll be gone in ’14…!
Who would a Loya Jirga have to replace him? I suppose that the composition of the Loya Jirga would be part of the answer. The one in 2001-2002 was minus the Taliban. No doubt they will be given a pro forma invitation to reject.
What you type is what I thought the definition of extraterritorialty is, i.e. U.S. troops not subject to local laws.
I won’t deny Karzai won’t be laughed out of the tent (a little help from wikileaks would be appreciated; where is Assange when you need him), but I won’t hold my breath waiting for it.
He seems to be actively courting the Taliban these days, Tarheel…! But, I don’t see much happening until the elections to replace Karzai are held, and even then not much hope for what will remain standing after them…!
I’m working up top of MK again, and I’m fixing to head outside for my first shift…! Aloha…!
Russia & Iran are trumpeting their new additions to military hardware. China may be too, but I haven’t found quite the right Chinese website.
In the service of “Don’t Tread on Me.” However, I suppose presstv & RT are blocked from CIA analysts’ computers.
Also, saying that Karzai will be laughed at when he campaigns for U.S. immunity is quite a bit different than your claim that Karzai told Obama to stuff it.
I haven’t followed the Afghan SOFA issue as closely as I did Iraq, but in neither country have I ever seen any real desire on Obama’s part to keep troops on the ground forever. In Iraq, we left and haven’t looked back, and I suspect that in effect we’ll see the same result in Afghanistan.
If Obama doesn’t want long term troops, why haven’t we walked away already? Afghanistan is only more obviously corrupt than the USA/USA/USA…. why are we there at all? The moment we leave, it’s all chaos again anyway.
Do you think that Sunni demi-insurgency in Iraq is independent of U.S. involvement. I don’t.
Too bad about all the dead people, huh Barack?
The faster we get out the better. These wars have made our country LESS SAFE at the too high cost of country’s blood and money.
I’m sure that three years of strengthening al Qaeda in Pakistan will pay off with another war.
Our “cautious, consensus-seeking President” prefers drone wars all over the world that he can conduct in complete secrecy while remaining 100% unaccountable. If it weren’t Obama, I’d say that was fascism.
http://youtu.be/Yw051sNJp3c
How ironic to end the post with John Kerry’s Senate testimony. I remember being stirred by it, even though he sounded like Thurston Howell III. But what a whore he turned out to be.
Obama is the worst president in the history of this country. His best allies are racist and bigots. They enable him more than anyone else, they’re the only thing his supporters have to point at.
I believe Dick Cheney is secretly running this country. That’s a profiteering war for the corporations and nothing more.
Defeat? Hell, we won! Declare victory and go home.
Afghanistan is not a country in the way westerners think of a country run by a central government. It’s composed of autonomous regions ruled by various tribes that unite against “outsiders”, but continue their feuds with one another after they’ve ran the outsider “out”, which is where he belongs.
Correction, Obama is the best president in history for the 1%.
Or maybe the United States government really “won” the Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan wars according to their real objectives:
Vietnam: To make war on America’s youth and thereby defeat the idealism of the early 1960s which threatened the national security state.
Iraq: 1991 phase–to institute George H.W. Bush’s and James Baker’s “New World Order” of U.S. capitalist dominance, thereby erasing the impact of glasnost and perestroika in Russia, the Reagan-Gorbachev rapprochement, and the tentative idealism of the 1986-1990 era.
2003 phase–to secure Iraqi oil. Also, following 9/11 to shift the focus away from Afghanistan to another, completely uninvolved country, and thereby ensure that Osama Ben Laden was not killed or captured at an early stage (apparently possible in December 2001 at Tora Bora, see http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CPRT-111SPRT53709/html/CPRT-111SPRT53709.htm. Early capture of Ben Laden would have ended the justification for a continued “War on Terror”
Afghanistan–The focal point of the “War on Terror” which has spread to our own shores, against our own population. Far from a genuine war on terror, this has evidently become a war on democracy.
When one looks at the three latest wars from the above criteria, that one that comes closest to a “loss” for the U.S. government was Vietnam, where a huge popular resistance to the continuation of the conflict ultimately brought about its ending. The U.S. government has been very careful not to allow such a popular resistance to gain strength in the subsequent wars (e.g., the suppression of Occupy).
No, they’re all good Presidents for the 1%, Obama undistinguished among them — what distinguishes Obama is that he is President at a time when the 1% are really starting to put the squeeze upon the rest of us, having failed to extend the capitalist world system in any other way.
Black, white, Democrat, Republican; they’re all “money green”, and it’s all “our money”. They didn’t earn one thin dime of the billions they exploit us for.
Careful, you know what they did to the rest of the Lakota, right?
I will not surrender no more forever, and every day is a good day to die.
Hoka-hey!
You got that right.
Should the official insects (GADfly-US)of Gun Appreciatin Day like, you know eat shit and die?