As Petraeus’ career and prospects go up in the flames, Michael Cohen of the Guardian notes that his real legacy isn’t his broken marriage vows but the Afghan surge that has failed miserably.
…it’s worth remembering that when asked by President Obama, point blank, if a surge of troops to Afghanistan could turn things around in 18 months, Petraeus responded:
“Sir, I’m confident we can train and hand over to the ANA [Afghan National Army] in that time frame.”
Petraeus was wrong – badly wrong. And more than 1,000 American soldiers, and countless more Afghan civilians, have paid the ultimate price for his over-confidence in the capabilities of US troops. And it wasn’t as if Petraeus was an innocent bystander in these discussions: he was working a behind-the-scenes public relations effort – talking to reporters, appearing on news programs – to force the president’s hand on approving a surge force for Afghanistan and the concurrent COIN strategy.
Of course, ultimately it is on the President, when these policies are approved and do not work, but all that death without any real achievement should have some of it also placed on its advocates and architects door. And this:
The greatest indictment of Petraeus’s record is that, 18 months after announcing the surge, President Obama pulled the plug on a military campaign that had clearly failed to realize the ambitious goals of Petraeus and his merry team of COIN boosters. Today, the Afghanistan war is stalemated with little hope of resolution – either militarily or politically – any time soon. While that burden of failure falls hardest on President Obama, General Petraeus is scarcely blameless. Yet, to date, he has almost completely avoided examination for his conduct of the war in Afghanistan.
All his cultivation of the media — which also led to his downfall — will also ensure there is no examination of his military leadership made widely known to the public. Yet another orphan of a disastrous war.




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How good it is to be so good at convincing people you’re good at your job.
More Patraeus Attaturk? No thanks.
Perhaps that was the goal of this exercise: To allow the good general to slink off without having to address the failure of the neocon plan. The neocons are still around and still plugged into ObamaLLP. They’ll just have to find another public face.
Boxturtle (MiniCheney, maybe?)
Clearly this is stealing oxygen from the critical investigation of BenghaziBenghaziBenghazi.
King David’s Rules For Living 3. A leader needs to give energy; don’t be an oxygen thief.
Not the worlds greatest general, but a GREAT shinola salesman!
Boxturtle (How many folks recognize that reference without looking it up?)
Good morning, pups. It’s Dowd and Friedman today. In “Reputation, Reputation, Reputation” MoDo considers David Petraeus, the spymaster who could not keep his salacious secrets. The Moustache of Wisdom, in “Obama’s Nightmare,” says forget the “fiscal cliff.” What about the smoldering Syria?
Here they are.
The coffee and tea are ready, and I’ve got apple cranberry muffins this morning. We had some heavy rain last night, which meant all the kittens wanted to be inside. Four kittens (good-sized now, at 7 months) and one of the older kittehs makes for a VERY full bed! Time for me to figure out what to bring for lunch before I’ve got to get to work. Have a great day.
Oh, shit… You’ve got me stumped!
I think you’re going to see that calm down. It can’t be used to get Obama anymore, there is risk of exposing JSOC black ops that the GOPers strongly favor, they’ve lost a favored general and are in danger of losing another.
And a GOP congresscritter has already revealed classified information while investigating it and they’d rather that was forgotten.
Boxturtle (And ObamaLLP dodges another bullet)
A tutorial for the culturally impaired among us.
And the lovely Dolly provides a minoity opinion.
I don’t want to be the worlds policeman. We have no strategic interests in Syria, other than if they threaten Israel. Just being Irans friend is not reason enough to get involved.
So IMO Syria is something we should stay well away from.
Boxturtle (Other than promising not to interfere should Assad choose to go into exile)
Thanks, attaturk, even more than a general failure DP has promoted himself as the origin of the concept of the surge, which he actually inherited when it had proved successful in Iraq, in one region where it was conducted along with intensive local successful relations with the people which included paying for services.
Thanks, Marion. How cavalier of moustachio, to leap into the economic disaster to come ahead of us to show us how it’s done. That Europe preceded us in the austerity and it was very nasty and their economies were set back, oh pishposth.
This is all a distraction.
CIA….. Benghazi….
I believe this orchestrated attack on foreign soil was to achieve a political objective here in America. Elect Mitt. It failed. Follow the money!
The old way of manipulating elections via fear is no longer effective. The CIA and their dirty little secrets are many. Hence, the need for dysfunctional secrecy akin to the SS and Gestapo! Same old camel dung, over and over again. Meanwhile people die and the black gold flows….
Argh! Can’t watch youtube at the office. I’ll have to wait until this evening.
Boxturtle (Too many corporations are using websense as a substitute for sufficient bandwidth)
Romney shooting his mouth off about Benghazi the day of the attack was a focal error. That mistake has to be erased at any cost.
Dolly Parton will wait for you. She’s patient as long as you’re true.
Hmmm… Turns out Grover Norquist might just have lost a follower.
I dunno. The impression I get is that the GOP no longer cares if Mitt looks like a fool. Perhaps that’s because they can now publicly agree.
Boxturtle (I’m wondering if Petraeus is still under consideration for 2016)
If they’d cared they wouldn’t have chosen him as the candidate. He was barely acceptable in the debates.
He’d like us to believe that. But I keep seeing Christie’s actions as positioning himself for 2016.
Boxturtle (I think Taft’s bathtub is still available)
When politicians make pledges to corporations with 501c(?) tax exempt status based on “ideology” which undermine an elected leader’s duty to protect the constitution, republic and the governed, essentially benefiting corporations and aristocrats by limiting government’s ability to effectively regulate “enthroned corporations;” well then! Why even have a Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag? Why not a pledge to Halliburton? Traitors…..
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/grover-norquist-problem-is-too-much-spending-not-that-peasants-arent-sending-enough-money-to-dc/
Norquist does not speak for me…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americans_for_Tax_Reform
“Americans for Tax Reform is a 501(c)(4) organization with 14 employees, finances of $3,912,958, and a membership of 60,000 (as of 2004).[1] It was founded by Grover Norquist in 1985.[2]”
60,000 in 1984? How many now?
The exit polls show about 20%, the usual rate of occurrence of totally untenable plans.
This affair is showing so much of what is wrong with this country. It’s not one thing… it’s almost everything… Look at the characters of the players… narcissistic exploitative frauds… tax cheats, social climbers, empty suits… it’s almost impossible to believe that this isn’t some trashy novel. But it’s real…
Rather like showing Rmoney to be totally out of touch with reality, living inside a bubble of sycophants.
General Petraeus wrote a manual for COIN. Why didn’t he know that it wouldn’t work in Afghanistan, which lacked (1) a reliable national government and (2) the half million troops needed to meet force to population ratio? BTW the so-called “surge” in Iraq had nothing to do with COIN and everything to do with paying people to stop fighting us.
Sure, so we don’t have to look it all up.;) Take it easy.
There is no accountability in this society for the elite…the 1% and especially the .01%.
The higher you go the less the rules apply… That’s why everyone is dying to be up there… no ethics, no morals, nor accountability… lot’s of material pleasure… selfishness worshipers abound there.
They maintain a Truman show for us down here and we fight and struggle and while and most do their bidding… and some rail and a few go off the grid.
It’s coming apart though.. consumed by its own excesses… not from any rational initiatives, legislation or legal decisions… none of those effect the top.
Only a few yrs to go…
That’s one way of interpreting domineering behavior indulged in by those who have an economic edge, and poor taste, toward subordinates. It’s not our doing.
Just ask Bernie Madoff. He was a Grand Master.
Raises hand in class. Me! Me!
I think General Petreaus is hugely and grossly overrated as a general in war, however I dont think being one in a long list of failures in Afghanistan, whether American, Russian or British is going to be his biggest failure.
a MILLION years ago,the media exposed the 4,000 toilet from military contractors,(when we had a media) now Betrayus has a 28 car MOTORCADE to get to a whores house party,who by the way is in debt and legal problems 4,000,000.00$ deep…what a drunken defense dept we have…CUT IT CUT IT CUT IT at least in half
Yes it is. It is all our doing and we’d better keep doing, even if it has no effect. It’s like going with the current, shooting the rapids, hanggliding, windsurfing, whatever. The Japanese art of hand to hand combat, or is it Korean? A survival course for more of the same in spades until, as SanderO rightly says, it collapses of its own weight and shortsightedness.
It’s all our doing since a great many of us said we wanted it just this way. Over easy.
Not clear to me what “our” you are talking about. Many folks I know have not had it “over easy” at all.
30,000 pages of emails. Staggering. Seemingly impossible. These generals spending all that time and energy getting laid, no wonder we lost the Afghan War.