Swear upon your country’s altar
Never to submit or falter
To arms! To arms! To arms, in Dixie!
Till the spoilers are defeated,
Till the Lord’s work is completed!
To arms! To arms! To arms, in Dixie!

If Sherman and The Army of the Tennessee couldn’t change their ways, I doubt just one electoral setback will be enough. These people don’t think like you and me. They’ll be back.

LEFTY LOGIC 101:

Q: How do you know that all Republicans are racists?
A: They’re using secret racist code words.

Q: How do you know Republicans are using secret racist code words?
A: They’re all racists.

http://youtu.be/iHvAlk6li5w

Thanks Attaturk.

Still sifting through the carnage for the R’s that is this election cycle but it sure does appear right now that they got their asses handed to them up and down ballot. The US House remains a problem in that the leadership still includes obstructionist bullies and misguided punks that have no idea how to read the signals sent by this elction.

Here’s hoping that the D’s don’t let ‘em up off the ground this time. Especially the President. Bullies and punks understand only one thing. A solid punch in the snout. The fiscal cliff bullshit has already started and the Speaker has already been on the teevee saying that the House will obstruct any attempt to raise taxes. The President now has nothing to lose now. Use the the power you have Mr. President and start delivering those verbal punches in the snout that can bring the mad dogs to heal.

A year and a half of reasoned, sane and productive work on budget and revenue issues can delivery the House, and increase the majority in the Senate, to Democrats in 2 years. Protecting Medicare and Social Security must be priorities.

Oh, by the way, tell Pete Peterson to fuck off.

Unskewed Polls secret finally revealed:

Republicans missed badly on the polling because they felt Republicans were undersampled in the polls. They combined this with Rmoney’s popularity with independents, and predicted victory.

But exit polling showed that Republicans have become so loathsome even to themselves that they self-identify to pollsters as “Independent”.

I think especially if Reid makes good on his promise to reform the filibuster, the burden falls onto the House Republicans but they won’t be able to help themselves. Issa isn’t going to stop investigating every time somebody in the administration sneezes, BONER isn’t going to stop trying to repeal the ACA, Ryan and Cantor won’t stop praising the wisdom of Ayn Rand and trying to give rich people more tax breaks, etc. I think this will give the Democrats the House in 2014. One hopeful sign to me is that so many of the Democrats in Congress at least have dropped the conciliatory, “bipartisan” bullshit, especially Reid. Maybe all the rest of them need to be in automobile accidents.

Time for preemptive surrender — by the Ds?

That was the most absurd thing in this election, except for the fact that all conservatives believed it. You call a random sample of ten people. Six of those people say they are going to vote Democratic so you assume that Republicans were “under sampled”. You then then decide to disregard one of those respondents so that your poll now reflects a false equivalency. You now go further and assume, for whatever reason, that Democratic turnout is going to be less than it was in the previous cycle. Keep in mind you have nothing at all to base that on. You’re just playing a hunch that Dems aren’t going to turn out so you disregard another left leaning respondent… Of COURSE your poll is going to be inaccurate! How can it reflect any kind of reality? You may as well have just made the assumption and saved the cost and effort of actually talking to people. Apparently conservatives were all truly convinced of this snake oil, instead of arithmetic and so were stunned on election night. This is why these stupid assholes shouldn’t even be given the keys to an automobile.

Dunno buzz. I’m not seeing it. After 2008, the D’s were all touchy-feely, “why can’t we be friends” but I’m getting a whole different vibe this time. Hope I’m right.

Waiting for Marion to tell us KThug kills it this morning.

Good morning, pups. Today we’ve got Brooks and Krugman. Bobo has pissed me off something fierce this morning. In “The Party of Work” he gurgles that as Republicans reckon with a post-Reagan era, they might best rebuild by first listening to those who have come to this land with the very hopes conservatives should want to affirm. He starts out by saying that America was first settled by Protestant dissenters, and later goes on to imply that lots of today’s Republicans are their cultural heirs. Listen up, Bobo — I’M a descendant of those Puritans and I’ll thank you to leave my ancestors out of your little fantasy life. Oh — he also calls Goldwater, Reagan and Dubyah “ranching Republicans.” Ranching my ass. W bought a pig farm, evicted the pigs, and called it a “ranch” so he could play around wearing a big hat. The asshole was afraid of horses. Prof. Krugman says “Let’s Not Make a Deal,” and that President Obama should hang tough and hold his ground even at the cost of letting his opponents inflict damage on a still-shaky economy. Oh, if only he’d consent to serving as Secretary of the Treasury. A girl can dream…

Here they are.

The coffee and tea are ready, and I’ve got banana pancakes this morning. I’m still grinding my teeth at Bobo so I’m going to get more tea and feed the kittehs. I may even brave the 38° outside and refill the bird feeders. If anyone has a cogent explanation of why Bobo is still considered worth paying attention to please let me know… Have a great day.

And so he does!

Was reading around a little and was surprised to see how many over at Balloon Juice agree with now’s not the time to bargain.

I consider it unlikely that Obama will stand up to them. It is much more likely that they’ll reach a compromise giving the GOP 90% or so of what they want.

And as for protecting SS, etc, expect the Grand Bargain to be revived.

Boxturtle (Catfood for all!)

Really? That’s a wonderful sign! Wonder if Mr’, Conciliator is listening? C’mon Obama. None of the Repugs are ever going to stand in line to be your BFF.

Before Bush the lesser, I considered myself a Republican. Yeah, a moderate republican, but a republican.

I dunno what I am anymore. But whatever Bush the lesser is, I AIN’T.

Boxturtle (Wonder how many others feel the same, or if I’m the outlier once again)

I voted as often for Republicans as I did Democrats or even more so before I heard an interview with Gingrich. I saw where that party was going and abandoned it early on. They used to believe in very similar things as the Democrats. back then there truly were only cosmetic differences between the two but not anymore. The embraced the societal fringes, religious bigots, racists, etc, to increase their numbers but they’ve failed miserably with sane people in the long term.

If the Rs would just stop talking about lady parts and Latino self-deportation, they could be right back in the hunt. Ds are over-interpreting the win, IMHO.

Mrs. Greenspan on Morning Joke: POTUS did not reach out to Congress and dissed the business community in his first term.

I hope so too. I think the senate is ready to fight, but I’m not so sure about the house and the White House.

I hope Reid meant what he said about SS. And I hope he isn’t forced to walk it back.

Boxturtle (there I go again, getting all hopey like last time)

Good morning, Margaret. They’ll keep deluding themselves for at least one more election. Gotta get their base out in 2014.

Whole mess of people out there in anguish about Tuesday. Most of ‘em are aware on some level that they’ve been played, and can keep a lid on it. I’m more than a bit worried about the crazies, tho.

The mines call for duty. We’re pretty much caught up on the ore side. We’re all waiting for the salespeople to come through with the orders. The election gave sales a big ole sad, but they’ll just have to muscle through it. Have a good day, all.

The asshole was afraid of horses

I never knew that. Perhaps they look too much like Donkey’s to him.

Boxturtle (And we know how elephants feel about donkeys)

I agree. He’s wanted Bowles-Simpson all along, which is bad enough without anything else Republicans want to toss into the mix. What would motivate him to stand up to them now?

No, not the time to bargain. This is the time to extort. Send everything to the House to die and blame Boehner for killing anything popular and reform the senate so that they can’t hide behind one batshit crazy senator’s filibuster.

Boxturtle (Batshit crazy senator with a secure seat, I mean)

No, that is not lefty logic.

But thanks for sharing.

The embraced the societal fringes, religious bigots, racists, etc, to increase their numbers but they’ve failed miserably with sane people in the long term.

Yup. And it’s starting to look like all those folks are dying. The current society is slowly crushing those groups. In a couple of generations, racists will be back in their closets, outnumbered, and spending all their time on echo chamber blogs. Until at last they too pass into the night.

One wiser than average GOPer pointed out that their convention was almost entirely old and white and asked how many of those faces would be around four years from now. Problem is that to attract younger faces, they’re going to have to leave a lot of the social rhetoric behind.

Boxturtle (And for some GOPers, that’s an offense before God)

It’s as simple as this: he has the opportunity to totally marginalize the House Rs and turn the country against them. Or he can breathe new life into them. Politics 101.

That’s a MAJOR if. Abortion and hate are the key planks of the platform. Imagine the GOP base if they party accept Roe V. Wade as the law or allowed anything that could be called amnesty be applied to anything other than European immigrants.

Heck, they’re willing to turn Az into Nazi Germany to make sure the Brown people know they’re not wanted!

Boxturtle (Papers, please!!)

See StonyPillow @ 20

Scarborough and Frum agreeing that theconservative entertainment comples has fleeced the conservative followership. ooooh, guess who won’t be invited to Ailes’ Christmas party this year.

Yes, saw that. LOLOL

boner really really really just wants to be invited to golf with WH beers with the prez.

keep an eye on Frum…he’s making sense.

I agree with you.

To an extent, I think the dems’ win with young people and Hispanics has something to do with Obama himself and the way he’s been packaged as much as it does the democratic party. Obama won’t be around in 2016, and the dems will most likely run either an old white guy or an old white lady.

At the same time, at least a good chunk of those demographics voted for the dems based on the perception that they were far better on social issues–women’s rights, gay rights, etc.

So, I guess we’ll see.

Seems like every four years every presidential election heralds some “sweeping new change” whether it’s a permanent gop majority (remember that one?) or 2012′s current “death of the gop” (remember, the gop also had a stake driven through its heart in 2008).

I think part of it is due to sheer exuberance by the winners, and part to the fact that pundits need something to latch onto since the horserace is over.

another great start to the morning, Attaturk!

hahahaha. Brooks closed comments early. Too bad. His little piece of apologia deserved many many more comments. For one, how is it the thugs get to act shocked that women don’t vote for their christianist babel?

True, the thugs have a hard time packaging themselves in a deceptively welcoming way with the crazies holding the reins. Be nice if the dems decided their future lies in something other that Mr. Me Too, swagger, exceptionalism, austerity, drone diplomacy, i.e., republican lite. Not holding my breath.

Even Brooks said the demographics are changing. The pols see therein the need to circumvent reality, how to get elected, not how to meet needs.

Thanks for admitting the TRUTH perry…I know letting anything but a lie out of your mouths is hard for you Repukes…

That’s no ordinary old white lady. “F” w/ her at your peril.