Pam has already touched on David Freedlander’s piece about the decline of independent blogs 10 years down the road. There are many things that are true in his long piece, but he somehow doesn’t manage to ask the rather obvious question — where’s the money?
The fashionable explanation is that “Twitter and Facebook have passed them by.” Hogwash. There has certainly been a consolidation of blogs for survival at places like Daily Kos and Firedoglake, but that means traffic has gone up, and not down. If it was still possible to keep blogs afloat, news outlets (blogs and otherwise) wouldn’t be dropping like flies.
The reason increasing numbers of blogs can’t keep the lights on is simple – Google. As I wrote on Bytegeist recently, news advertising revenues (both online and off) have tanked since 2000, and that money is going straight to Google, who passes pennies on to news outlets for every dollar they receive. Every news outlet from the New York Times on down is struggling in its wake. Because Google has eliminated the competition by crushing it or swallowing it up with nary an antitrust peep from the FTC, news outlets (including blogs) are forced to take whatever they want to give.
Premium advertising has historically gone for between $8 and $12 per CPM (thousand impressions) at online news sites, and Google charges similar rates. But last month at the height of election advertising, when ad revenues used to be at their highest and provide the money that political news sites would live on for the rest of the year, Google passed on a mere .42 cents per CPM to FDL and many other outlets.
This part of Freedlander’s article gave me the biggest chuckle:
What’s left of the Netroots say they aren’t finished yet. They point to the handful of candidates for office this year that they got behind, like Elizabeth Warren in Massachusetts and Tammy Baldwin in Wisconsin, as proof of their relevance—never mind that most of the Democratic establishment lined up behind them as well.
Freedlander doesn’t say who said that, but both Warren and Baldwin — candidates that the netroots certainly have stood by — have refused to even take the calls of advertising representatives of the blogs. And you can add Jon Tester and Sherrod Brown to that list. (And, as John Amato has noted, the unions too.) If you’re giving money to these candidates, their ad dollars are going straight to Google in exclusive deals through their expensive DC consultants — many of whom mark the ad rates up 100% and skim the bulk of your donation rather than buy direct from publishers.
FDL has responded by moving into spaces where there is tremendous public interest, but little media coverage:
- Marijuana policy with Just Say Now, which is the largest marijuana Facebook page with almost 2 million fans (which Facebook is trying to kill by charging people to reach their followers)
- Civil liberties on the Dissenter, which follows Wikileaks, Occupy, Keystone XL and other groups
- The continuing housing crisis and the mortgage fraud scandals at FDL News
Election periods are always uncomfortable for us, not only because of the audience split Pam notes (which shows little sign of healing), but also because it’s the purview of the main stream media and if people want to engage in electoral cheerleading there are other places with a much bigger megaphone we simply can’t compete with. FDL has consciously moved out of that space as a matter of survival, both financially and audience-wise. There simply isn’t any way to keep the doors open and the lights on if you’re counting on the Tammy Baldwins and the Elizabeth Warrens to be there for you.
So I’d like to see David Freedlander do a follow-up piece on the economics of blogging since Google has been able to gobble up its competitors and beef up its profits by squeezing publishers around the world out of business. All publishers know about it and complain behind the scenes, but few are willing to speak out for fear that Google will screw them even harder.
Because until the public starts demanding that the FTC step in and break up Google, things are only going to get worse.




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A critically important post, Jane.
I hope that everyone at Firedoglake reads this and ponders the future.
My great appreciation, Jane, to you and to Firedoglake.
DW
It isn’t easy but we have a great community and I really appreciate you being a loyal part of it, DWBartoo. It really wouldn’t be possible without your continued loyal support.
Not going to happen, whoever is sworn in next January.
Is there a plan B for FDL?
Jane, Thanks for this informative article. As I have been trying to put together all my one person observations through the years in the search for just how the right wing took over the public and political arena and how we on the left can change that direction. The answer to the first that comes to me is that the right are so much more media savvy and really have taken over virtually all forms. Ironically the one niche remaining is what their corporate owners don’t want reported. Kudos to you and FDL.
But of course that’s not good enough. The right really got their inspiration from the propaganda techniques of Goebles in knowing how to repeat until it is true but above all how to entertain and grasp the emotional lives.
I have to say we liberals to this point have had two reactions the first is to laugh and say “they are just kooks” and not worthy of our attention. The other is to retreat into intellectual discourse, educate and instruct. Borrrrrrrrrrrring!
We have to have content. And we have to exert our power on existing media to do the right thing. The conservatives have been great at shaming the MSM. They don’t like poll results, just shame CNN into producing one they like. But we also have to be entertaining.
Personally I have become an enthusiastic supporter of FDL for the emotional companionship of “my kind” but the outstanding content is a close second.
I think a big first step is just what you suggest here. For goodness sakes! Don’t stand silent at Google and Wal Mart. Challenge!
Well they’re finally having some success at WalMart. Maybe that portends well for Google.
Reuters: FTC moving closer to Google antitrust case
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/13/us-google-ftc-antitrust-idUSBRE89B16G20121013
Thanks Jane. I am playing catch up on the history of the blogs and the ‘money’ part. Sounds like Google has a ‘lock’ on the revenues, for now. I love the inclusivity of myFDL and hope that you will be able to afford to have that stream of creativity coming to FDL too.
Perhaps the whole ‘news’ system ecology is transforming. What is next? When will we be in a position to ask Google to pay more? How can we demonstrate that Google is not going to be able to go next door and get to this audience?
Excepting TBogg…
I agree with the plaintiff’s experiences doing searches. When I used Google for the Social Security searches, I rarely got to blog’s articles. When I use duckduckgo.com, I routinely get to articles written by blogs. There’s more access to CBO papers which are online, which has enabled me to more accurately report on the actual future impact of Social Security reform plans. Thanks for writing about that.
I wonder if a ‘Union’ of blogs could exert pressure on Google to increase their payments. $-.42 per ~$8-12 is just horrid.
If enough blog owners got together and suggested that they would stop carrying Google-generated ads unless the payments increased, I wonder if that would work?
I would think blog owners wouldn’t be enough. You would also need a ‘Union’ or coalition of some major websites.
Tbogg is a humorist/master of snark. There will always be an audience for that. He does something nobody else can do as well as he does.
Jane, I am not very in the know about this, and I appreciate your information, about the only thing out there we can access on this topic.
I see that when I do a search on google, things show up on my FDL page and arrive in my e-mail. Would FDL get a better piece of the action if I do my searches and then wait until the ads show up on FDL if I am doing ordering on-line? I don’t buy a lot of stuff on line, but if it would help FDL, I would click from here instead of the merchant page.
Methinks we’d be better off with a Union of Advertisers of Popular Products and lots and lots of money.
I love a lot of TBogg’s writing. It’s the shameless Obama cheerleading and hateful bashing of those who refuse to fall in line that I disagree with.
That’s a separate issue, though, and I apologize for bringing my petty little resentment into your comment thread.
Thank you for the hand-written note I got with my shirt last week :) I was tickled.
That’s a great question. Do clicks matter?
I use AdBlock via FireFox, so don’t even see the ads here. I know that can be disabled for specific sites. I too would click through ads here if it helps FDL.
Clicks don’t matter. Almost nobody sells Cost Per Click..
Is there a way to click on ads using Google that would increase revenue for FDL? I switched to duckduckgo as well and use bing to avoid google as much as possible. I heard advertisers can pay sites more for purchases rather than clicks.
I’m going to use something else than google now too.
Creative commons, what is that?
Thanks Jane, this is something that’s important to know about, and I feel a little surprised that we haven’t heard more about this situation as it has developed.
How about going directly to the people who make popular products and services and ask them to advertise with us? I haven’t thought about how you would do that. But here is what inspires me to want to drop Google.
The CEOs have decided to openly demand for a Bowles-Simpson deficit talk and for some immediate action. They don’t have a problem asking for directly what they want. Why do we? The head of UPS is asking for pols to go ahead and make a Bowles-Simpson Bargain. Makes me think about how we need to support our local USPS instead. Why support the folks who are keeping you down?
So glad clicking through ads is not a revenue generator. I don’t block the ads as i find mild humor in what comes up on any given day.
An ignorant summation on my part would be that Google is TBTF,too big to fire. Wheres the mom+pop ad stream?
Exactly. Which is one reason why general-interest publications, online or otherwise, are the ones most vulnerable to Google.
The good news is that if you do niche work, or local news, you have a built-in audience that wants and needs what you have to provide. Advertisers like this, particularly those who specialize in selling their products to the same people that read/listen to these niche publications/broadcasts/news organizations.
Tweeted. Recommended.
Illuminating, as always.
Edit was closed before I could link this. sorry about that.
UPS CEO calls for Bowles-Simpson fix the debt plan.
Today (and last night) very time I reach or load firedoglake.com a warning pops up: “Safari can’t verify the identity of the website ‘static.ak.facebook.com’. The certificate for this website is invalid. You might be connecting to a website that is pretending to be ‘static.ak.facebook.com’, which could put your confidential information at risk. Would you like to connect to the website anyway?” Three option buttons, “Show Certificate” (which shows a bogus certificate), “Cancel” (which I click to unlock the message freeze), and “Continue”, which takes ‘me’ to that site.
That warning does not pop up when I load a MyFDL page.
I wish the dancing Obama’s would cause mild humor instead of EXPLETIVE DELETEDS.
Jane
Take the pittance for ads, but organize a boycott on Google Analytics & measurements.
So that would be UCS? United Catfood Service. Delivering austerity world wide!
Not a bad idea at all.
The “Don’t be Evil” Vampire Squid makes a killing on the campaign carnival too.
What’s plan B for Teh Google?
I appreciate that you have not gone to premium content, like tpm prime. It is more democratic here. Do memberships and contributions still make a difference?
So I have a suggestion for you – which isn’t in the realm of Google ad sales, it involves another revenue stream. This isn’t a general solution, it’s a suggestion to you specifically, Jane.
Ebook publishing.
Amazon typically charges 80% of the print price of an ebook, which has no paper, printing, warehousing or shipping costs. The book salon enjoys a healthy relationship with established authors – and you have a slew of emerging ones here. You could charge half the Amazon price, still make a healthy profit, and expand your FDL brand significantly.
Trouble is, it’s a shitton of work, I know. And you’re already stretched about as thin as you can be stretched. Plus, there’s the problem of whether or not authors would risk the ire of Amazon
It’s just food for thought – can’t hurt to suggest
We don’t rely on advertising to cover much of our expenses because the Google situation has been a growing problem for a long time. We could not survive without membership & donations and appreciate yours (and everybody else’s) support.
I’ve done more than touch on it. I saw this Daily Beast article in a link on Susie Madrak’s Twitter feed and couldn’t resist talking about this and offering my thoughts. Of course, Jane touched on a big issue that neither Freelander nor I did more than mention. (Memeorandum and Tengrain at Mock, Paper, Scissors linked to both of us and wrote an uncharacteristically long post about it. It’s well worth reading.)
I was getting the same thing, so I just deleted all cookies in my browser.
Worked. No more pop up.
Now, if only something could be done about the messed up page scripts from the ads . . . it would be NICE to have the full site back to normal again . . .
Is that a google related problem? Wow, hadn’t thot of that and what it means to FDL, given your post here, Mz. Hamsher.
Best wishes, thanks for all you do, this is the first time I’ve read about this ad issue re: google ad revenue control . . . .
I need to read more about this, not sure I get how it’s being done, other than google owns the ad placement on blogs biz as a monopoly . . . like rust, greed never seems to sleep. LeSigh.
Thanks for that reply, good to know . . . hard times everywhere, still. Corporate fascism marches on thru the intertoobz. LeSigh. Won’t last forever, tho . . . empires fall when they fail to attend to the needs of the masses. Living thru it all is more difficult, tho, for everyone, in the meantime.
Nice to have FDL to hug, kinda like the ‘we’re in it together’ thing.
;-)
I thought your post was very good jp. For those who haven’t read it: http://welcomebacktopottersville.blogspot.com/2012/10/are-bloggers-endangered-species.html
If you’re still seeing that send me a screenshot. When I woke up today and saw it on my iPad I thought I was going to go ballistic.
Yes, still seeing it on both mother ship and at other sites MyFDL, etc.
Will do per yer request. Brian has been great recently in helping me to understand what’s going on, asking for screen shots, etc. Know you are all working on it . . . sorry if I brought it up inappropriately.
The good news is I read your post, read Pam’s, them David F’s piece in DBeast . . . and posted them all up on my FB page with intro’s to the topics.
Gotta admit, your post and the two others, and Suzie’s, kinds got the blog juices stirring again . . . it all ties directly into what’s happening in our lives, world wide. Monopolies, corporate fascism, control of information and flow of info, etc.
Should I use the admin email addy for you to send that screen shot to?
Ok, am sending to FDL @ gmail addy . . . lemme know if need to send it elsewhere. And thanks for all you and staff and others do for the site.
I appreciate that you appreciate the support, but it sounds like the numbers do not quite add up. If after all these years, you are still deficit financing this place, which I suspect you are, thanks again.