Aaannnd we’re back! Town hall style! Will the rematch be any different from the opener? Will Obama emulate Joe Biden’s strategy of laughing maniacally at all of his debate opponent’s whoppers, or at least, y’know, mention it whenever Romney says something full of, ahem, malarkey? Or will he follow nominal Democrat Lanny Davis’s sage advice to just continue nodding at everything Mitt says?
Presumably he’ll be somewhere in between, unless he ingests a lethal dose of caffeine before he goes onstage. Regardless of affect, he really does have to call Mitt every time he lies or flip-flops – if he lets him trot out the Obama-cut-$716-billion-from-Medicare unchallenged another six times, I’m going to have to start drinking. And I don’t even like Obama.
Also, can someone tell me when it was that Candy Crowley turned into Helen Thomas? Because all these stories I’m seeing about what a courageous rogue journalist she is seem like they’re from a parallel universe. But hey, if Heroic Earth-Two Candy Crowley is the one that’s moderating, then I’m all for it. Maybe we can import their campaign finance system too.



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Eli!
Hi, Eli! Thanks for helping us get through this.
ELI!! BUZZ!
Buzz!
Hi Marion, you got your socks lined up?
Hi, Marion!
ELLIOTT!!
Good evening, Marion.
What can undecided (at this point!?) voters ask?
Well, she’s starting to develop that rump-sprung older broad look… (I’m allowed to say that, having sprung my rump years ago.)
Praying I have enough. The kitteh who used to fetch is now in the great catnip patch in the sky…
“I’m sure the candidates will keep their responses concise and on-point” – Candy Crowley displaying some unexpected dry wit…
Is MittCheaterMcCheater cheating tonight?
So all the hairdressers in Nassau (?) County are on strike? (MEE-YOW…)
aww :(
I had a fetching cat once, a whackAlooney calico
Eli !
hey – thirty seconds in and I’m not even mad yet. Oh wait, Romney is speaking. Oh well….
jayt !
Romney starts out offering all kinds of government benefits
Hola!
Sounds like freaking liibrul?
“I want you to be able to get a job.” He left out that you have to move to India or China…
sure, Romney knows all about creating jobs — in CHINA!
Mitt is going to make sure college graduates have jobs, by creating jobs and bringing back jobs. Brilliant! Let’s see Obama top that!
In huh, and how you gonna bring back the jobs.
Shorter Myth: Hop on a Plane to China, or learn how to hide my $$$ in a tax haven !
Mitt just rambles and puts forth no plan at all.
Obama does appear to be present, at least. So that’s an improvement.
Do youse guys really know the game of BUZZ?? Ya know when you flub you glug yer Beer down in one gulp!
That’s a feature, not a bug, for the MittBot 2.02391
Words words words words words. Obama should just say he’s going to create jobs like Mitt did.
Obama got good answer there. Save some for later, doctor.
well, Obama segues all over the place
Rebuilding America… What a concept.
Eli !
Lanny Davis is a dick
He forgot to even mention that schools should be privatized…
Obummer: Catfood for all…! *gah*
Whoa….Obama tossing the whole salad…. energy, etc., etc.
Petro !
pups! ELI!
Why didn’t Obama mention that he removed the banks as middlemen on loans?
SADLY!
What is that plan?
gonna help create fewer college grads— cut all their shit
LIAR. LIAR!!! Pants on fire. What do you suppose would happen if Obama called Money Boo Boo a liar to his face?
(Here he goes again with the already-debunked 12 million new jobs in 4 years shit…)
Or that he put into effect that 10% / 15 year rule?
my head hurts all ready
That sure was a smooth pivot Mitt made into talking about taking Detroit into bankruptcy.
Mittens jobs…wash my carz,mow my lawnz……..hahahahahahaha
Well, I suppose “just isn’t true” is more polite than saying he’s a fucking liar…
Go Obama!!!
Obama attacking this time out.
LOL … Obama calling Meth Rmoney on his bullshit already … bring out the Swords !
It works.
(((Petrocelli))) It’s about goddamn time.
Mittens magic underoooooooooz would be in a twist
Wow is she nervous or what?
Mitt goes birther on unemployment rate. Obama showing some claws here. “Untrue” is kinda close to “lying sack-o-shit”. I’m thinking O uses the word “liar” before the night’s over.
OK…. good on Crowley… she shut fucking Romney up and sent him back to his seat.
Are we on Long Island or something?
You think? If it weren’t for him and his like I might have supported Hillary. Never mind.
Meth Romney – heh, they should pee in a cup, PETRO
To say nothing of the weeping, wailing, gnashing of teeth, tearing of hair, rending of garments and wallowing in sackcloth and ashes that would be done by The Very Important Inside-the-Beltway Punditocracy.
He once again tries to walk all over the moderator
Yep. Nassau County. (One of the richest in the country, for what it’s worth.)
That is, a
plus
Love it.
That was great … well played, Candy.
Oooh…. Obama circles back to speak of Jeremy and his need for a job. Nice. He’s on top of this.
Who’s flag pin is bigger? Fox N Friends needs to know
Hi to all the people I knew long ago and the new ones I’m meeting tonight! I can’t bear to watch, so I’m trusting in your comments
Not watching but enjoying the commentary. Maybe Obama’s pride is getting the begter of his pussalanimity.
O noes, Obama has reduced drilling on federal land! How terrible!
I liked that too.
I was worried about Big Candie doing the job, but, I hope she keeps it up.
Mr. Coal? What?
Nice touch.
Mitt – “More coal, bitches!”
wha happened
{{{ TJ }}}
Mitt stole Boner’s Orange Tan …
yeah Don Blankenship grabs Mitt’s arm – save my job…
Romney wants to use coal and nuclear and everything! I hope some of those :independents” know something about what is going on with energy safety.
HEMP NOW
Mitt – drill on federal lands and the national parks be damned.
O should be able to respond to the pipeline. And Romney is a liar.
Great, Obama’s bragging about how much more drilling he’s encouraging on federal lands. Awesome.
jesus – a duel to see who can trash more of our public lands sooner
Wonder if Romney spoke with any of the black lung coal workers who can’t find any support or help for their sickness.
I’ll donate again to O if he mentions Sensata. Triple my first donation.
Lucky for them they have ER’s to turn to
Oh…. Obama calls out LiarMitt about coal…. says Mitty was happy about shutting down a coal plant in Mass. Call this jerk on his shit….. Go O.
Not true.
Wasn’t there an agreement that the candidates wouldn’t ask each other questions?
ooh, face-to-face. I’m liking this.
drink!
Go O
don’t let Mitt walk all over you
Right. Not sure I can deal with this.
They can just go to the ER. They’ll be fine.
Right off the bat, Obama’s wonkery makes my eyelids heavy. If that’s the “new-and-improved” Obama then Ann Romney can start thinking about what color drapes she’d like at Pennsy Avenue.
For some reason my refresh isn’t working very well… Do the hamsters need to be fed?
Everyone’s in favor of producing oil/gas on public lands? I’m not!
Obama nailed him with that land lease sho.
Ain’t it just grand, Ellie…? 8-(
Hell, right after BP’s giant shit on the GOM, Obama granted a bunch more new permits down there.
“Awesome…”
Thassit.
Romney: “You’re not licking enough corporate ass!”
Obama: “You lie! I am so!”
The price at the pump is SUCH a crock of shit…
Romney tells O to sit down. Great gogglymoogly, this guy’s an asshole.
Romney learns fast. No more questions by him to the Pres.
Yeah, this is almost as much fun as when Obama promises that he’ll cut Social Security and Medicare benefits too.
OOOH… Let’s run the filthiest shit on earth right over a major aquifer… What could POSSIBLY go wrong?
Four years ago we were in danger of depression.
The oil from Canada isn’t, to my knowledge, going to be used in the USA USA. Correct me if I’m wrong.
Bishop Rmoney will be reaching for his scissors next….
Seems that O is striking back with what he’s doing, without being a bully. I was hoping he could do this tonight.
O should smile and say to Mittens….dont look now,but your PANTZ IZ ON FIRE
O is all for pipelines and oil production, hooray.
Good debate.
Frankly No.
O can outrun him!
Ditto.
You pulled me out of lurking, Petro.
All these comments make it sound like a strange debate indeed.
Romney knows he is in trouble now.
Fixed that for you.
Mitt is soo dham bossy
are you shittin me BULLY ASS WIPE
pushy mittens
O should ask Myth Rmoney which States the XL pipeline will run through …see if he can even name them.
Mitt is doing the same he-answered-first-so-I-get-to-talk-last shit he did in the first debate. CC is *trying* to stop him, but not hard enough.
Candy! don’t let him get away with it
Come on Candy. Shut that prick up…
If I have a voice in what he cuts off, please let me know.
*
Still not letting R blow off.
What a smuck.
If that’s a bad word, I’ll take it back. But, he is.
BTW,Elliott, super spook Bobby Ray Inman was/is on the Board of Directors of that coal mine Blankenship worked for.
So it’s okay if Money Boo Boo interrupts and runs over the moderator, but not okay if Obama tries to respond. Gotcha. IOKIYAR. Again.
Ooo, questioner just kicked Mitt in the nards!
Crowley better stomp Mitty’s butt! He’s trying to run this like a prayer meeting.
But there will be NOTHING about how “uncivil” he was.
Lower taxes on us folks. That’s great.
They really oughta consider taking things to a whole new level of egregiousness by simply requiring poor people to pay to work.
Figuratively, I mean. Alas.
There just HAVE to be some folks in that audience who lied their butts off to be called “undecided.”
Wait a mi ute, he just changed his tax plan.
Lordy, are they running out with fire extinguishers for Mitt’s blazin’ pants?
Maybe. We’ll see.
(Tomorrow morning, it’s never the same debate I watched, right?)
If the top 5% of the taxpayers will still pay 60% of the taxes, and the lower 95% will pay fewer taxes, then the top 5% WILL get a tax break.
Mitt’s still having trouble with math.
I didn’t know that! eep
Oh boy, the middle class don’t have to pay taxes on their interest income and capital gains! I’m sure that’ll be a big help.
tell it,cant watch
How the effing fucking bloody sucking hell am I being taxed on my savings? I don’t have a billion dollars, you shithead…
that’s because he’s distracted by his blazin’ pants
Mitt just pulled a new income tax deduction policy out of his ass…
Which, by the way, makes no sense whatsoever.
I’m no fan of Obama, who is an empty suit the PTB picked out of the crowd to do their doing, but he is a hell of a lot smarter and less dangerous than that smarmy Mornon. I will enjoy watching Obama make mincemeat of that little prick and all those who support him. Schadenfreude is bettyer than no freude at all.
Mitt Romney is a crazy liar and anyone who believes him is as crazy as he is.
Cracking me up. Actually, I think fewer people are looking for a preacher.
Or at the very least begin to charge them for the air they breathe…
Oh good, I don’t have to worry about interest on my savings account. Last year it was about $5.00.
Romney is the most incredible liar I’ve ever seen. He’s a used car salesman. No plans for anything – just words.
Gonna depend on someone else’s word?
Why?
Capital gains, which comprise 100% of Mitt’s income I believe, must go.
not watching– people here are calling out mitt left and right
query: is O doing it, too
It’s the new, improved RoveMath™
Here’s the arithmetic on Money Boo Boo’s “tax plan” that’s supposed to cut my taxes explained.
You’re right, Dearie, all that refined bitumen(tarsands) is destined for the Global Oil Drum, via Supertankers out of Houston…! 8-(
Again, as I asked above, why?
Being able to just make everything up is very freeing.
Okay, Mr. President is coming into his comfort zone….. he’s truth telling, and I like it!
And Romney still all about money for the rich….. trickle down.
He may be “looking” to cut taxes for middle income folks, but he’s NEVER, EVER going to “find” a way to do it. Lying piece of shit.
So… Mitt is going to stimulate the economy by keeping net taxes… the same?
Mitt looks a little pale.
HI everyone. Glad you’re watching so I don’t have to. My blood pressure can’t take it.
bring tax rates down, then cut out all the deductions. And this helps how, exactly?
Romney wants to change the subject.
Lies aside, both doing well. LOL
venting is healthy msmolly
i really feel sorry for his kids,and Ann,prolly got sick FROM him…he is a HYPERBULLY imo
Now even Obama is starting to laugh at the bullshit…
RomneyLogic
Sweet! Obama is starting to have the same smile (much more subtle, however) when Money Boo Boo lies that Uncle Joe had when dealing with ZEGS.
And Mitt’s smile looks awfully pained.
Blinky Romney
I wouldn’t have answered like O is. I would have used the opening to knock R’s business record.
Because I trust you and watching/listening is bad for my blood pressure.
C’mon Demi, you can do better than “schmuck!”
Yay, Big Bird comment.
Romney better answer this one with a knock out.
I owe ya one.
Yep.
“If somehow the numbers don’t add up…” Hahahaha, good one, Candy.
If, if of course they add up. Trust me.
Sickening! “Of course the numbers add up” says Mittster. Lying sack.
Romney couldn’t even wait for Candy to finish the question.
Tell me how that works for him? Dickhead.
Still waiting for an answer, Mitt…
Another opening on R’s business…..run with it Obama.
Mitt says the numbers add up because he knows how to balance budgets, and he’s going to cut, y’know, stuff.
Hit Robme for ignoring the Bush Years … was his focus completely on his Swiss & Grand Cayman Banks ?
If Obama only. Knew MMt he could take him out.
I think Romney is losing by being his own normal bully-boy self. Candy is doing her best.
just asking, lady
i’m not watching
and like frmr (at 177) i trust you implicitly
He sure hasn’t made mincemeat of him yet. After that first debate Obama looked like potted ham.
He’s doing a little better in this one, but how could he have been much worse?
OOH, a Lily Ledbetter question! Thanks, young woman!
Fuck the family history, go right to Ledbetter
say it OBie
VOODOO ECONOMICS
Never seen such an all-encompassing disrespectful-to-everyone asshole such as Willard. I’m gonna need a better word than asshole, it just comes up woefully short….
Candy is being polite, trying to maintain control but is making Mitt’s bully-tactics looks very bad.
Just reading this thread doesn’t give you a Whole Vision of this event.
Don’t trust me on anything.
I’m not Jesus.
time for teh ZINGAs obie!
Obama should repeat, over and over:
“C’mon, Mitt; talk specifics. Are you going to get us into another mid-east war?”
(Not that Obama won’t…)
Gotta love Mittens waiting while Obama speaks… He stands or sits there like a stump, with his hands generally crossed over his pelvic area, like he’s trying to keep his nuts from crawling up into his torso. With a pained smile…
Candy doing okay.
I’m doing like you, Ms Molly. It’s somehow easier when it’s filter through the FDL commenters.
That’s your comment?
Myth’s response: Obama was raised by a single mom but Ann has to fly around in a Private Jet that doesn’t have power down Windows !
i’ll bet everyone calls this a draw
me too
You are not wrong.
Romney is soon going to become a verb: “to verbally and self-centeredly run roughshod over someone”
As in “Candy Crowley was Romneyed at the second debate.”
Sorry. No nuts. Ann’s got them in a bag, somewhere.
Mitt patting himself on the back for realizing that women can actually be competent. And he even let them go home at night, Whadda sweetheart.
{{{ demi }}}
How many women execs at Bain?
It’s because we’re just “The Help” jayt.
:)
Stunningly amoral.
So… Mitt’s plan for pay equity is… more jobs? Because historically women have always had pay equity in strong economies, right?
Yada, yada, yada……”I know stuff” says MittyBoy.
I really just wanted to see Obama mention how much he and Romney agrees on the need to gut Social Security and Medicare again. Like he did in the first debate.
But, who’s listening to you and me?
Oh, yeah he’s going to help women in the workplace.
Well, except for how mean Obama was to call Mittens’ “facts” into question. Uncivil, doncha know…
You’re not Mitt Romney either.
If I watch that debate, I won’t sleep tonight. FDL gave me a good sense f the last two.
…a better word than asshole…
*heh* Attorney, jayt…? ;-)
its no wonder he is loathed in Europe,hideous manners
Where was this guy last time?
Yes so far.
May I suggest “Gaper”?
OMG. He’s bringing it.
Women’s issues.
Is he bringing that up?
Someone’s listening. I hope.
Hi ya, Petro. (again)
Man’s bringing it on. I was so hoping that that came up in his training for this debate.
Oh, gosh.
Twain !
Are you having fun ?
YESSS!!! Let’s address healthcare and contraception for women as economic issues. About goddamn time.
Mitt was clear in his answer that he learned about women in the workplace when he was governor.
Ease back, honey! :)~
Not yet but close.
Great perception. Thanks.
I’m not.
ROFLMAO … CT !
If Mitt had his way I would be dead from cervical cancer. I hate him. I don’t want him having dominion over any woman’s body. He is stunningly amoral. heh.
What a dick Money Boo Boo is being. (Not that it should be a surprise to anyone.) And bless that woman for making Romney try to explain how he’d be any different from C+ Augustus.
wow – another 180 on employer’s right to limit contraception coverage. What a surprise.
Mitt, lying again! Not for employers to tell women whether or not they can have contraception. (Just not gonna pay for it, but Viagra is a fine drug for men.)
Okay, Constitutional Law Professors…? ;-)
Cardinal Dolan will not be happy.
Nor will Paul Ryan.
PETRO!!
Ah yes, Mitt Romney, bootstrappy small businessman.
But, it’s cool, his staff will “walk it back” tomorrow.
hey now…*g*
And apparently Bain is a small business… Lying sack of weasel shit.
hey,having a penis requires maintenance/
Q: What’s the biggest difference between you (Romney) and George W. Bush?
Shorter Mitt: George who?
ELI!
Candy fucking Crowley doing a better job than Jim Lehrer? What universe am I in and how do I get back?
R$Money = Slimy sleazy salesman at it’s very worst example of fucking GREED!!
Amen, Sistah!
((Mary))
That’s the truth and the bottom line.
I hate him too, even though I try not to feed the negative tree.
I hate that screwy VP candidate of his even more.
MARGARET!
Low, low bar. Not really seeing a whole lot of roguishness yet tho.
Great answer!
There he goes again with the blinking
Actually, from my pov, yes. Go figure!
The hamsters seem to be very tired and overworked this evening… And when I refresh my screen why do I need to wait for widgets.twimg.com and a whole bunch of other crap I’ve never heard of?
mebbe shes sick of the old white,goopers reaching up her VJ
Weird, but true!
You’re right. Ridiculously, incredibly low bar. An amoeba could slither right under.
Who’s blinking?
Romney: “Thank you for that question about the differences between myself and George Bush. You have no idea what a shock it is to have someone stick dubya squarely up my bunghole, after we republicans thought that Barack Obama had basically decided to be Jeb, in that matter, for the past 4 years.
Of course, I will now snarf and goorple for the allotted time (which, in this, I will honor to the millisecond…) to avoid talking about the fact that George could fuck up a can of peaches, and my policies are ( just as with Obama and Bush…) not all that different.”
I’m sure O can answer “What have you accomplished” questions in his sleep. Not that his answers will be worth a damn.
Your computer rejects Mitt.
agreed 2 sickies
Hey, stranger!
Osama Bin Laden’s dead. (And Gm is alive)
So far, I think Obama is doing OK.
Her computer isn’t alone….
Ha!
Most of those people in the audience are plants IMO.
Yeah, by all accounts he’s much better than the last one. I think Markos has wood.
Why do you want to go back?
Huge improvement, but that bar isn’t much higher than the Jim Lehrer one.
So Romney says we will get the same thing in the future. Got a point there.
sickly smiling Bishop Rmoney … interesting that Princess Ann right up on stage with the questioners
I think I said it first, but would you like a nice Bella Serra Pinot Grigio?
PS. I hate really really hate the R candidates.
I suspect that the conversations in the television studios after the first debate were pretty brutal behind the cameras, and even stronger in the local watering holes when everyone got off work. Whether the reporters/anchors were sympathizing with Jim Lehrer or expressing frustration with Romney, I have a hunch that the whole television news media — even at Fox — were not happy with a candidate treating one of their own like a doormat.
prolly right
Like I said, when half of the audience has been carefully selected to be reliably conservative, (to keep the teabaggers from whining), the best the Democrats will ever get is a draw.
Obama MUCH better.
I’m done. This thread has become virtually impossible for me to take part in. The “reply” button is iffy at best, maybe it’ll work if I wait long enough, and screen refresh is taking for-fucking-ever. Enjoy the rest of this thing. This gives me an excuse to watch something else, as pissed as I may be about that.
Someone needs to say that SS is not going bankrupt and that an adjustment in the cap (or NO cap) is all it takes. Someone…. please!
Refresh not working. Posting response refreshes.
You know what irks me?
Obama’s habit of breaking up his sentences (and presumably, his thoughts…) at totally inapproprate places. It really strips his delivery of a lot of the impact of what he’s saying. I don’t recall his doing that when he was campaigning. Did I just miss it?
So we know that Mitt is lying… but do you all think that any undecideds are being persuaded in that direction?
Good point…
this one hurts Obama.
And Chris Matthews.
Romney showing cracks, and they’re getting worse.
Clearing your cache will help a great deal.
Can Mitt Rmoney answer a fucking question? No he can’t.
Obama needs a plan here to counter this.
Not if he says my policies have been stopped by a repub congress.
And btw, my refresh just started working better.
So true….weird.
So I understand. I still haven’t actually watched one minute of these horse and pony shows. I can’t stomach watching two rich guys argue over how much austerity to put onto the rest of us.
“…will get the same thing in the future…”
NO doubt of that. I don’t think the dems will re-take the House and that means that if Obama wins, John Boehner will be the bull-goose-loony republican, and Mr. bipartisan doesn’t have a very good track record in dealing with him.
Ewww. TMI, Peggy!!
Tuesday’s debate audience of uncommitted voters was selected by the Gallup Organization.
I thought it was just me, and that this was a typical verbal tic of his that I just hadn’t noticed before…
He’s getting a thrill up his leg? Ooh…Newtie’s gonna be jealous.
I would say get a new hobby.
At this point, I’m not sure why you’re going There.
And the simple fact that SS doesn’t contribute one dime’s worth to our Deficit…! 8-(
Holy cow….Romney changing his immigration policy too.
My refresh drops me back to about comment #200. WTF?
LMAO! Just a guess
Of course. Gallup who is known to weight Republican.
All I keep thinking is more of the same has to be better than the ultrarich getting all of the money that’s left to the little guys now.
Refresh.
Ahh, but observing and knowing the political enemies is paramount to defeat them.
Even when there is two of them, and one is fighting a two front political war.
Watch Your Enemies And Learn. Just my opinion, and habit.
And every immigrant child will get a Pony & also, ice cream for dinner every day !
I just realized that i can’t even comment on Mitt’s immigration policy, because i don’t think he actually stated one…
Don’t want to contemplate that. I won’t sleep. LOL.
Have “illegal” parents? – join the military to become a citizen.
Not really. Since you’re not watching.
She’s giving color commentary. Or woody commentary, which is part of what tonight is about.
Who’s Got The Biggest Balls of them All?
It’s a + point, not a weakness … stops him from sounding monotonous …
Rmoney changes his policy so many times he can’t remember what he thought he once might have stood for. He stands for nothing.
You’re
rightcorrect!No, I think more of the same will mean something like a 1929 collapse…it will also mean that in 2016, the republicans could run a loud-mouthed dogcatcher and win in a landslide.
Lanny “the Sincere” Davis must be crying in his beer. “No, Mr. President. Don’t be so mean and shrill . . .”
Maybe if it were a little more Shatneresque…
That is obvious here.
Actually, I decided to stream it in the background while I hang out here and have a glass of wine (actually, TWO), and unwind.
I love it when Mitt hits Obama for not doing stuff he wouldn’t have done either.
uh oh! i forgot about the debate. it might be just as well. i hated the two that came before. what did i miss? how was the moderator? the candidates?
Romney is losing it… BO has gotten to him!
You’re a patient man, at least in this case… ;)
Horribly awkward attempt at interruption by O.
But when I picture the next four years with the religious extremists dictating social policy and the ultrarich dictating fiscal policy, I can’t help thinking it would be worse.
My pension isn’t as big as yours. LOL.
Blind trust?
“I’m not sure why you’re going there.”
Because in it’s broken rythym of speaking, it’s painfully obvious.
Oh, Candy caving…. letting Romney run wild……
I think you’re right, Nahant.
It sounds like he’s fishing for the next word or phrase and just barely getting there before the whole sentence grinds to a halt.
Candy needs a whistle, a blouse with vertical black and white stripes, and a yellow flag with a weight in one corner.
Lanny, “The Progressive”, Davis? I stopped watching Ed Schultz when Ed let him get away with saying that. Ugh!
oooh, the “blind-trust” defense. That will sell well with all not super-rich and/or lawyers. Mitt generally playing defense on this debate. Poorly.
he stands for uncontrollable GREED ,it is frightening his ADORATION of money and power…he is a Basilisk
Undecided voter???
Or possibly a whip and a chair.
well Carey (?sp) surely is a non partisan undecided participant – NOT
Benghazi , here we come. Throw Hillary under the bus?
Oooh, Libya…!
O’s gonna throw Hillary under the bus on this.
A whip.
I still don’t think that “We suck less!” will get Obama re-elected. It didn’t work in the mid-terms, and I don’t think it will work for November. He has to talk about what he expects to accomplish to make things better, and since he didn’t do those things with a 79 seat majority in the House and that 18 seat majority in the Senate, I have serious doubts about his even trying, after this election, should he win.
I think tanbark must have lost the coin toss so he has to be here to call the rest of us dupes and stuff. :)
*Knockout Punch* - My pension is not as big as yours !
I’ve got enough pain, thank you.
I agree. Good one.
Thanks, Eli. That is precisely it.
I think they’ve gone from “We suck less” to “At least we’re not crazy”.
Little awkward here Onama.
We’re going to hunt ‘em down…! 8-(
Following their “standard bearer,” LYING.
HRC took full responsibility earlier today …
he is completely overbearing,he really does HATE the 47/99%ers
Obama had a great opportunity to punch back hard on Romney’s failure to show us his tax returns and on the Cayman Islands and Swiss bank accounts. Such an easy target, and Obama chickened out . . .
Obama did NOT throw Hillary under the bus.
LMAO! Yeah that’s kind of the message I’ve been getting.
dupeydemi, Here! Good grief.
Do we really think Obama should have known all about security at the consulate?
2 points for Eli
Well, you may have pain and for that, I’m sorry, but Obama’s problem of being a republican-lite trying to convince people that they shouldn’t vote for a straight-up republican isn’t going away, and evidently, neither is his halting delivery.
Margaret; I won the coin toss, and that means I don’t have to shine shoes for Obama. :o)
OK, I don’t think I can take it any more. The debate BS is getting too deep. I’m going to bed and spare myself the unctuous tones of Rmoney. And the lies.
start another war, mr Romney?
Romney blaming Obama for Syria. What the fuck.
Did O mention that Ryan voted with the rest of the House GOP to cut funding for embassy security? I don’t think I heard it…
Ah, and Mitt using the same Obama’s foreign policy is “unraveling” talking point as Ryan.
I didn’t expect him to. Wow! Would that piss off all of the wrong people…
Rim Shot.
Sorry this is a minute late. It’s hot stuff tonight.
like Mitty thinks airplanes hav open windows
BALDERDASH
I’m relying on people here rather than experience the pain of first hand observation. Are you watching the same show as everybody else?
Great answer.
Mitt looks more dazed than condescending.
How dare anybody stand in the way of more RonwyLies?
Old, not going anywhere.
Iran!
FreedomOil!That and I’m the President, and you’re not!
Douche.
Rmoney in the weeds, way.
Your’re just saying that because you’re fromToronto and want one too.
It wasn’t even a ‘consulate’ it was a CIA compound, the only Consulate in Libya is in Tripoli…! 8-(
Sometimes if there’s a big enough vacuum, unfortunately, crazy can fill it.
I’m not sure if Obama’s doing better, or if Romney’s “confidence” is letting him show a little more of his Randian petticoats.
Oh, Molly. It’s almost over.
But, have an herbal tea and I hope that you sleep well.
Whatever it takes to turn it all off. ((Molly))
Romney lost another round.
Father Barack just smacked petulant Mitt upside the Head …
Forgot about that.
Obama -”Please continue (digging that hole), Governor”
With a grin. Nice.
Candy still doing fine.
I would call that a draw.
I agree, and she stood up and took the responsibility.
Quick hi ya.
I hope someone other than me is in charge of handing him an ice pack. ‘Cause ya know?
Clearly Rmoney is a better debater than McLame but he has nothing but fictions to peddle.
I guess Obama can’t really come out and say “I can’t do squat because everyone in Congress is afraid of the NRA”…
707 … Knut !
FWIW,tanbark I echo many of your sentiments and trepidations…
Trust…but verify.
refresh
Hi, demi. Hope it’s cooled down out there. It’s still hot on the stage!
WHY??? do we not hear this again or at all??? I guess Issa and Co are getting away with blowing it because no one wants to go there again?
What about marijuana ? These geezzers just ain’t with it.
PETROPONOVICH…me likey..i hate guy/old fuks like Mittens,he s truly in love with hisssssself
OOh! Let me! Does it matter HOW I give it to him?
Buzz !
I think Tweety & Co had a chat with Candy and told her to grow a spine…
But it would sew up this election for him. EVERYBODY hates Congress, even the gun nuts.
Do the opportunities and benefits of two-parent families apply to same-sex couples too, Mitt?
Romney now bragging on his “state”….. no one in Mass. really knows him… and I’m not completely sure that he was ever actually a legal resident…. I read that he had to revise two years of taxes to prove citizenship. The Jerk.
OH, fuck me….fast and furious.
I was never a fan, but she’s doing a great job.
Romney – “Gun control is for pussies. No automatic weapons though, y’all just need to learn pull the trigger faster”.
I have more respect for her than I ever had before.
Kick it, Candy!
{{{{{ Sadlyyes }}}}}
Great follow up.
Whoda thunk it?
And Romney managed to skate on his tax releases again. Maybe 50 years from now someone will actually reveal who this sick fuck really was.
Okay, who let God have the night off and let Aaron Sorkin write tonight’s reality?
I haven’t been watching. I assume I missed all the good parts, right?
hey, wait a minute, Is Candy supposed to point out to Romney that he’s obviously “changed his mind” about gun control?
If CNN would just shitcan Erik Erickson and Dana Loesch, I might watch again.
Throw in Wolf Blitzer too, please.
That was kind of fun, he’s so Out there!
Candy go for it.
OMG…a softball for O.
Not yet. And, certainly not tonight. But, thanks, hon.
back atcha dear,hope you are feeling fine as frog hair
ditto. Also.
“Trickle-down government”? Wha?
How ya gonna do it, Romney?
Nah! I’d throw him out. He can go to the CNN Israeli bureau and go Iran! Iran! Bibi, Iran! till he gives himself a heart attack or a stroke.
Bain is outsourcing jobs and Romney got rich. Now he is all about bashing China? Sicko
PLEASE PLEASE talk about the factory in Ohio that Bain is closing and sending the jobs to China. Please. How hard can it be???
“…nothing but fictions to peddle…”
Not so. He can peddle a really sick economy that’s almost certainly in worse shape than the numbers we’re fed.
The fact that it was republican policies most responsible for it, won’t register with enough people; all they’ll hear is Romney saying: “I can fix it.”
That, and the fact that with big congressional majorites and one hell of a mandate, Barack Obama hardly even tried.
did Romney just say that trickledown economics don’t work or were my ears hallucinating again?
That’s a sad place to be, and I agree. ((Peg))
Apparently *everything* is China’s fault.
Currency manipulator ? Really, how do you know?
This Guy!
Do you believe that Presidential Candidates should file personal financial disclosures? I do.
Just for the record, Jill stein hasn’t, and also has a less than 60% rating from OpenSecrets.org for campaign disclosure (transparency).
So somebody square the circle for me that Stein is a real candidate. Find her position on “transparency” at jillstein.org, because, I can’t
Speaking of Dana, Peg, She was just screaming her head off recently about being ‘groped’ excessively by the TSA…! ;-)
yo Mitt – Define “Small Business”, dammit.
Frank Luntz got lots of $$$ for that one … hope he uses it to buy a better toupee !
That’s silly. Ever met a Blue Dog Dem?
I think he said trickledown *government* doesn’t work. Whatever the hell that means.
I forgot to mention Piers Preening Fop Morgan. Throw him off the top of the CNN building, please.
*smooch*
Including Barstow.
I winder if it will actually be “Us”, a whopping 7% of the Country in reality, or try out the new Windows 8 for drones…
Go for it, honeybuns.
I’d like to take a picture and write a diary. Ha!
Keeping up with another live blog here…sounds like Obama really hammered Rmoney on national security, esp rebutting the Libya fictions. What kind of bonehead does it take to make absurd claims about the guy who is standing right fucking there?
Obama definitely showed up tonight!
With Erick Erickson shackled to his foot?
Small business means one Koch owns it. Or two or three Kochs. muthafuchas.
Really, it is the actual definition of a “small” business.
Great follow up!
LMAO! Isn’t irony wonderful?
WHERE IS THE QUESTION ABOUT BAIN???
Ha. I said that she should put her Big Girl Panties on at Kevin’s post about her getting arrested.
Didn’t go over well.
Oh, well.
Zing!
Gotta love Mitt complaining about how China cheats all the time.
Hillary’s already taken the bullet for this. Which as TBogg reminded us earlier is much more than Condi would do for her and the other Bushies blowing off the repeated CIA warnings about 9/11.
That might be used as evidence against me.
Good catch!
oh gawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww yes,he is brownnozer extroidinaire
How can Mitt complain so much about China when he has sent them so many gifts (jobs)?
Hey! Prez brought up women’s rights. Okay?
Some of those ‘undecideds’ in the audience are undecided because they are basically comatose.
Mitt the Micromanager!
I imagine not… I avoided that post for similar reasons.
It is incomprehensible to me that Rmoney has not one single fucking answer to any fucking question all fucking night.
Mitt is losing the Asian vote by blaming China for everything.
Yes, but Obama took responsibility tonight.
Mitt brings up the 47%.
Oh, Romney opens up his religion….. I’d love to ask him if Jesus is God or was born of God and His Wifey and whether Mitt has named his eventual planet yet.
Left Uppercut KO … had Myth Rmoney stammering for a coupla minutes !
Really? I haven’t watched CNN in a loooooooong time. When they got rid of that racist asshole Lou Dobbs, I started watching again but then they hired Erickson, who is orders of magnitude worse.
Many thanks to you all. Good niight.
Mitt promises to create jobs by creating jobs and balance the budget by balancing the budget.
Taking he bullet the way Hillary did is shrewd…the long term play. After a few days of wingnut bloviating when there’s essentially nothing left tends to defuse the issue.
Well, she should, and so what if it didn’t go over well? I’m the
KINGQUEEN of that. :)Facts is facts, whether people like it or not.
How inappropriate.
I’ve done these things, FREAKING OUTSOURCED THE JOBS! WHEN is someone gonna bring it?
GREAT pseudonym for Willard.
PW !
What do you think of the debate tonight ? What’s your fave part(s) ?
Free enterprise? Oh fuck!
“served as a missionary for my church…”
Which beat getting shot at in ‘Nam, all to hell and gone.”
I always say the truth hurts sometimes but that doesn’t make it a lie.
What more could a voter ask!?/
Right on. Saw that and I agree.
Veterans who’ve fought for that. (SouthernDragon!! – damn!)
He blamed Obama for his own 47% comment … chutzpah !
he makes Charlie Rose look like a Maverick
She has a point. That’s used to be only for little people like us.
Why doesn’t Candy just hand him a gun and let him blow his own brains out on television? Don’t answer that. Willard would fuck that up too.
Yes, the answer he gave all night.
He should apply that same kind of strategic genius to get himself elected by getting elected.
Thanks demi … big shoutout to SouthernDragon !
Great debate, all things considered. IMHO
…in a palace in fucking France…which made Chimpy McW’s war service look heroic.
Anne not looking happy.
Just an observation,but withall the rhetoric about jobs, not one thing said about the important role of unionizing .
Does anyone recall Obama campaigning on the EFCA,Employee Free Choice Act?
Obama done good. Not sure he won, but he put him on the ropes.
Romney didn’t destroy his chances, like I had hoped, but Obama was the clear winner.
LMAO.
YIKES!
Romney get tough on China. HA HA HA HA HA
rmoney cloistering himself inside family circle before noticing Obamas were talking to the audience
Tomorrow she’ll make the rounds, saying “Leave Mitty aloooooooooooooooone! He’s surrounded by users……!”
As always Michelle looks mahvelous
I’m very forgetful.
every good thing that happens is because of Mitts Genius,anything bad is everybody/anybody elses fault,i know peeps like him,he is vomitacious!
That’s the long and short of it.
!! David Brooks gives the debate to Obama
another fail.
Yep. He’ll keep the “please” but drop the “pretty”. No more Mr. nice Prez.
My prayers have been answered.
Matthews says 7 Obama,1 Romney and 3 undecided.
That should go over well.
Oh no! I AM in a different universe than I started off in this morning. Fuck.
I disagree with Tweety that Obama could have used NYT to hit Romney on Libya.
Obama let Mitt walk into a trap of his own words and walloped him !
she has to go home,and jump into bed with Mr.”oh i love myself to pieces”
If nothing else, he did take the smirk off Romney’s face…
Please, please, please, let the polls start trending the other way…
If this had been the first debate, Obama’s lead would be in double digits right now.
Another Rimshot. Ain’t it the truth.
When he brought up Lily Leadbetter, I thought perhaps the EFCA would be mentioned.
Perhaps you are forgetful, but I hope union members-and those striving to gain solidarity in the workplace-aren’t.
Thanks, Eli!
Margaret, you been reading Doonesbury? He’s been tearing Romney a new one, day after day:
http://news.yahoo.com/photos/doonesbury-slideshow/20121011-db121011-gif-photo-050506002.html
There’s only one way to describe Tweety – “Ass hat”.
yes, thanks Eli!
Obama won, Fox calls it a draw
was thinking 4 yeears ago-same thing-town hall debate-mccain was saying how we need to lower corporate taxes like IRE which went into the shitter; this time around its canada—- they won’t go into the shitter but if you wanna be more like canada mitt, fine with me, start with health care
Romney is scum.
A vampire capitalist.
I detest his lying rich arrogant shit ass fake smile.
Sorry. Needed to vent.
I think we’re beyond that.
You.
Anyone saying “angry negro” came tonight?
Well, there you go! If FOX calls it a draw, it’s clear that Obama wiped the floor with Romney. Hope he is even stronger in the 3rd debate!
Mitt’s Binder full of women
Maybe it will be used at my award ceremony then….
It’s the only explaination. Thank you.
Yes, Alex on CNN just said it.
When is the third debate?
Labor tends to be pretty forgiving.
I agree. If fox says draw, then O won.
x2
Not that I heard but I wasn’t tuned in to Fox and their Limbaughy Friends
I think it was a draw, which is, basically, a win for Obama. He should pick up a point or two from this.
Will it last? Who knows? I think a lot of people are turned off by both of these guys.
he is an indefatigable bully/ fuknozzle
I love Tweety.
Kelly!!! Luv ya so.
No matter what.
just checked my text messages– got an in-debate message from my apolitical, low information, 18 year old– “I think Obama wants to bitch slap Romney”
Mitt clearly lost but was not quite an manic as in the first debate. Just as rude though.
Oh, I agree completely, Knut…! But, the Schadenfreude is delicious indeed… Conservative Radio Host: TSA Groped My Vagina
“I am subjected to this almost every time I fly”
I seem to remember FOX and only FOX, (plus Pat Buchanan), calling all of the 2008 debates for McCain and Palin. A draw? Wow!
Oh, BoBo brings the veiled angry negro, no one likes either of them. Yet he gives the bounce to O.
And we’ve seen how that has worked out for the American worker,haven’t we?
If tanbark says it’s a draw, it’s an O win. :D
Smile worthy moment, indeed.
thanks Eli, see ya next time…
You’re on it tonight, sister! I hope tanbark isn’t feeling too low.
Bobo…King of the false equivalency…at least since Friedman lost his spot.
did I already say I hate Mitt?
Romney will have to go back to the boards for the next one.
One of the finest, most wonderful dudes I know.
tanbark has a sense of humor or I wouldn’t rib him so.
Maybe but it bears repeating.
Huff Post headline “BARACK IS BACK”. Yep.
“Both are unlikable.” I wish I could have seen Michelle working the crowd.
It’s all about context, ain’t it?
Now. I just turned it off and put on Light Classical music.
Take really fine care of your own sweet self, will ya?
Thanks, everyone! This was a lot more fun than the first one (but probably still not as fun as Biden-Ryan).
David Gregory defending Mitt Romney – again
true colors
Oh yeah…Bobo can’t criticize any Republican without that “Democrats are just as bad” horseshit.
Will do. You too.
Thank you, ELI.
Yes, we have. If Obama and the Democrats can get the support of labor – or any other group – without having to deliver anything, why would they stick their necks out and piss off their big donors to deliver anything for those groups?
Thank you all for sharing your thoughts while I avoided listening. Good to see you all again.
Is there anybody employed by NBC that is less relevant than Gregory these days? I wasn’t a big fan of Timmah but they sure managed to suck ass at replacing him.
Thanks Eli and all. You’re great sports for letting me not have to watch the debate but keep up with it anyway.
Obama took Romney down tonight in his Red Tie. Nice way to show what team you’re really on Obama.
Of course there could be an agreement between Romney and Mitt on tie color.
I’m still in shock. Candy Crowley actually forced Romney to STFU about F&F?
Thanka, Eli!
Bravo, tanbark.
hey, lady! take it as a compliment!
Night, all….
oops; i might get slammed for that
Mahalo Nui Loa, Eli, and all…! *g*
She did a good job, it was tough, and she brought it. IMO.
ditto– i get to watch THE YANKEES FUCKING LOSE!!!!!!!!!! SHIT, SHIT, SHIT!!!!!
Well, Eli, the way I see it, if American jobs are going to be used as the frontispiece of their campaign, the importance of a living wage and worker dignity(including the right to organize) DESERVES enough respect to not be relegated to back door deals and secondary status.
*heh* This Cardiac Sox fan is luving it, BFL…! ;-)
I agree completely. But I don’t think Obama does.
I don’t feel sorry for you. My team are the Astros….
This Twins fan felt weird cheering for Delmon Young, but hey. :-)
Have the Astros ever seen the post-season? I think that they and the Cubbies might be the only teams that haven’t done so now that the former Expos have done it in DC.
I know. Right?
Really, I was surprised at her performance tonight.
I haven’t forgiven her for her role in Kerry’s demise. But, I might pull out a hall pass for shutting down That Scum. Yes, you may quote me.
You have made my point for me…
Sometime, if you have not already done so,check out the You Tube of George Carlin’s ,”The Big Club”..the REAL owners of America.
Most salient to the discussion at hand.
Thanks as always for your efforts,Eli.
well, the Astros are very nice-I like them; they have spring training in the next town over and it’s great to go to the open workouts, they’re free (unlike the Yankees and Braves), gthey give you a free hat for showing up, you can just wander around and the players are cool with the fans; their (ex) manager, Mills, was VERY nice-used to walk around and talk with fans alot-maybe why he’s the ex-manager (should have been watching the team more); the Yankees are stuck up snots at spring training
Y’all suck. I think the Astros somehow lost more games than they actually played this year….
The Mets beat them in the NLCS in ’86 en route to winning it all. I *think* they showed up at least one additional time since then, but I’m not positive.
sure-had some great games with the Mets; classics
World Series 2005. Got swept.
I don’t think I was ever actually disagreeing..
Yeah, my dad used to go every year and was buds with a few of the players. Very informal I hear.
ELI!!!!
You are also on my list of top dudes here.
Thank you for hosting.
Gosh, it was fast and furious, wasn’t it?
Hardly could keep up.
Nightie Night All.
Not disagreement, merely discussion.
Always a pleasure and privilege to participate with you and others here,Eli.
Don’t get me started on the Bloody Massacre that Valentine caused in Bean Town…! I’m not looking forward to what’s in store for next season, either…! 8-(
it is; great way to spend a day– or part of it; gets boring after a while
The Expos were in the Playoffs in ’81, beating the Phillies before losing to Valenzuela’s Dodgers in the NLCS.
“…or I wouldn’t rib him so…”
If you can’t take a little stick you won’t last too long around here. :o)
Obama bested Mitt across the breadth of the debate, even made the case why progressives should hold their noses and vote for him over Mitt. But the way he choked up about how heartless conservatives have misportrayed him as a socialist at the end made me want to chunder.
Oh, and Romney’s “binders full of women” story? It’s bullshit:
http://blog.thephoenix.com/BLOGS/talkingpolitics/archive/2012/10/16/mind-the-binder.aspx
Dang, I’d forgot about that. Probably because it was against the White Sox, the Twins’ big divisional rival along with Detroit. (Or as Batgirl used to call them, the Bitch Sox.)
Sad that in a 600+ comment thread at the Lake, two very important things were left unsaid:
1. rachel is teh hot !
2. FTFY !
*Ducks and runs*
I wondered about that. I think here is what happened – red is considered the power color, so O was definitely going there after last time. R’s people probably figured he had established his alpha cred and wanted to appear less threatening/bullying, especially in that setting where voters were so close.