Since this post will go to press before I’ve had a chance to witness the dozenth or so “make or break” moment of this largely farcical Presidential campaign, I will attempt to steer clear of any advice/predictions for the contenders. I know that seems somewhat daring of me, if not a tad indifferent, but there it is. I’m not indifferent, of course, given the last time substantial portions of the American left decided there wasn’t a “dime’s worth of difference” between the Presidential candidates, dire unpleasantness quickly ensued. That doesn’t make it all exciting, though.
For liberals like myself, the President has been lame enough to qualify for a Medicare-funded Hoveround, and the fact that in the end he’ll most probably win despite his own and the horse race-obsessed media’s efforts to make the thing seem like a squeaker combine to make me want to look the other way. The goal seems to be, in the utter absence of any possible positive outcome, to make sure the other guy loses, just to show ‘em. Fortunately for my sanity, showing them something: say, the door, has moved up on my list of priorities, and there are a lot of less dispiriting chances to do so.
First off, there’s Joe Walsh. (Not the semi-cool rocker from way back, for those old enough to remember, but the Illinois Republican douchebag who, repeatedly, dissed his opponent’s military record, got scarily abusive on random people at town halls, and has made such an ignorant ass of himself that his own mother oughtn’t admit intending to vote for him.) A teabagger who, quite naturally, is overly fond of “personal responsibility” in others but nonetheless cheated his ex-wife out of years of child support for his own family, proudly went on TV to berate Tammy Duckworth, who lost both legs in Iraq, for picking out a dress for her appearance at the Democratic Convention, going so far as to hold up a picture of her doing so.
Duckworth, who was undoubtedly unprepared for such a bonkers and self-discrediting attack, calmly replied that sometimes she had to work on her wardrobe, given that her adult life was spent wearing one color, “camouflage.” Normal person: 1, Douchebag: 0. Everyone but Dick Morris expects Duckworth to wipe up the pavement with Walsh, and this exchange will only make the remaining film on the tarmac thinner.
Then there’s Sherrod Brown in Ohio, who is liberal enough that Rush Limbaugh, evidently distracted by Dominican hookers and too much bootlegged Viagra, once thought was black, but is quite ably sending the teenaged $20 million dollar Palin-with-a-Penis (Not even Sarah, more like Bristol), Josh Mandel, to the dustbin of history, where he will surely leave a greasy spot.
In Wisconsin, Tammy Baldwin seems likely to send the oily and opportunistic Tommy Thompson back to K Street where he belongs, and in the process become the first (openly) gay US Senator in Washington. Speaking of Washington, this time the state, it looks as though full legalization of marijuana may become a reality, and Colorado may join it. Not medical, Baby, we’re talking wake and bake. Take that, prison industrial complex. Four states are voting on legalizing gay marriage, and at least two will probably pull it off. Take that, Jesus freaks. Douchebaggery, with a healthy dose of lying, works, until it doesn’t.
Toss in the pro-life, teabag-stuffed cracker from Tennessee who ordered one of his mistresses, on tape, to get an abortion of his (maybe) baby, and you have an election driven not by the virtue and promise of its likely victors, but the revoltingly hypocritical behavior of its opponents. Which, in the end, is better than nothing for those of us watching at home.
Tonight, millions of Americans will settle in for a debate between a fresh-faced prodigy from Middle America with a lot of Big Ideas (not to mention cat food hot dish recipes), go head to head with a tired Washington Insider with an admittedly undisciplined mouth. But only one of them is a douchebag, and he has a widow’s peak instead of those oft-discussed hair plugs.
Republicans have a formidable machine for winning elections; so formidable in fact, that running toxic, unstable, walking drinking games seems like plausible gamble, but this time it just doesn’t seem to be working out. Tonight, I’ll be drinking to that.



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RYAN = DOOOOSH
Great, pretty rosy picture you’ve given us here…Did these people ever hear of manners? I hope Tammy loves her new dress….;)
Hag!
This actually kind of cheered me up a bit.
GOP=Douchemania
I didn’t watch {using hands to weigh to things—– Yankees game, VP debate; Yankees game, VP debate; Yankees game, VP debate, hmmmmmm
Still tied last I looked.
Hag, will you entertain, however briefly, the concept of eloping with me? Even if not, I have loved your work for (a number) of years.
Rock on!
yup; top 12
hey, I got mentioned in the same sentence with her, not you!
By now it’s an old dress, and I hope she has many more; a girl with prosthetic legs needs more time shopping, I’d think.
I’m not so much into nuptuals, but I’ve always liked wedding nights. Just a bias, I guess, but it sounds like something both of us could work with.
way to go, bfl!
What is Laurence ODonnell on MSNBC talking about? Does he have a clue? Is Douchemania a scientific term? I must admit that it falls most pleasantly on the ear in either case.
I do so enjoy flaunting my knowledge at those poor
deluded dipshitsderangedtotally lostsomewhat uniformed, GOP folks.CNN poll says Ryan won 48-44%
And let’s not forget our douchebags du jour: Wisconsin’s own rape expert Roger Rivard and Tennessee’s pro-life family values maven Scott DesJarlais.
The Freepers return!
i was able to watch 54 seconds of joe walsh and not one second more. i ‘spect i didn’t miss anything important.
There’s handful of GOP tools I really want to lose, and he’s one of them.
You can do it Ill.
I’m glad, because for me a whole lot of medical marijuana and booze still didn’t get me to your level. Color me slightly less annoyed.
I have no idea what Laurence O’Donnell is talking about, as I have never watched him.
They must have only polled the blind.
They must have only polled the
blindstooped.Speaking of douchbags, John Bolton is on Fox News.
If I thought it would make any difference, I’d pray. Or at least kneel.
Having spent much of the past week reading and evaluating course proposals for the Faculty Senate, it does not take much to cheer me up.
And deaf.
“The time has come,” the Walrus said, “to talk of many things: of ships and shoes and sealing-wax, of cabbages and kings.”
hah hah hah
Sounds dreadful.
The blind gave it to Biden.
The deaf gave it to Ryan.
Oops, I guess my researchers missed that other righty hypocrite.
We all feel like Lucy and Ethel at the candy factory these days keeping track of these bozos.
Don’t forget the Alzheimers-ridden….
I’m guessing these guys are flavors of the day. Not like Joe Walsh, the grift that keeps on giving.
This is an OLD video.
But I must have missed the government DEMANDING that I be in a home.
Douchbag.
You cannot even begin to imagine. I foolishly agreed to serve on two Academic Standards and Curriculum Review committees, Writing & Social and Behavioral Sciences. Truly depressing.
Ask not what your country can do for you….
hey hag — fine fine post tonight
In the age of TV that should mean Ryan won.
70% of the brain’s use is for visual.
But Ryan didn’t win.
hope he didn’t have soup before going on—– that mustache really is an abomination
CNN poll disagrees. My cut is that Biden blew him away on substance but his antics marred his performance.
His policies are worse.
-Hag
Absolutely Brilliant !
Yeah, I agree that the first half hour was over the top.
I’d hoped that people remembered the next hour.
I, and Firebagger, Inc., regret using such old footage, but it had the distinct advantage of beingboth sharply illustrative and unprotected by copyright. Next week I’ll try to have newer material.
That F*ckwad is coming to Canada next week, to warn us of the dire World consequences of
a 2nd Obama term …
CNN: Ryan more ready to be president and more likable.
(For the record: I hate Ryan)
is he thinking you vote in u.s. elections?
Yeah, but I could write three more after that insulting debate; good thing I’m too drunk to do so, or that Ryan thing would be in real trouble.
these neo cons must be vampires. They never die.
i didn’t see the debate but it sounds like Joe got all of the shit outta his system that he wanted to do against Palin but thought he shouldn’t ’cause she was just so fucking stupid
Sorry … HAG!
John Bolton, The Moustache of Mundane Evil.
Fascinating fact: CNN is how you spell FOX in Ancient Phoenician.
When will they hang?
About that fatass, I’ve got a million of ‘em.
In modern Southern.
LOL
I strongly recommend that you and your fellow Cannukistanians remind him of the dire consequences if he dares to take this particularly rancid load of horseshit outside of the safety of the US.
fucking people on drugs
Joe was a senator for looong time, chairman of two of the most importnt committees and been as good a veep as veeps go-except for the stupid shit he says
He prolly thinks that his visit will give a boost to the NeoCons up here …
All the tools are working hard for the Repugs on PBS.
I guess they know they will need new jobs when the R/Rs win.
No worries. Douchbag reruns. Go Firelakers!
Agreed. Hiya BFL!
VPOTUS won the debate, but acted like a horses ass. That is what will stick in swing voters minds. (the dozen or so that are out there..)
top 13; O’s 2-1
CNN (VA undecideds): Biden 8 times as many low points as Ryan.
what up,CE; always a pleasure
CBS FLASH NEWS POLL….. BIDEN 50% RYAN 31% Undec. 19%
No, Ryan acted like a horse’s ass. Biden acted like the guy beating that horse’s ass raw and bloody. On the other hand the swing voters (both of them), i.e., brain dead morons that have not paid any attention to politics in their entire lives and are incompetent to choose between breakfast cereals, still haven’t got a clue and will make up their moinds not to vote on election day.
this may not play out well for Joe; well fuck it; leaST he wasn’t like obama and if we’re at the point where VP debates matter that much, we in trouble
we saw that the ticket has a pulse and that can’t be bad
don’t think you can extreapolate from the CNN undecided, should I say– douchebags– to the national undecided douchebags
Extrapolating from CNN to reality is always a bad bet. Not quite as bad as with Fox, but close.
and I like Jill way better than Jenna
hey, matters as much as half the shit floating around out in medialand
If Biden’s Mom were still alive she’d ground him for his behavior. I know politics ain’t bean bag, but just sayin..
Biden always my fav — my DE senator for decades. I just can’t quit him. Take care!
I can’t now listen to the re-hash of that freak, Ryan. Also, that clip, cth, of Walsh, the banks were Forced to give bad loans, all the regulations that made those banks do those things. Cripes.
I think Biden did what he had to do. But it could have been a clear knockout — without the antics.
UNDER 55s against cuts to Social Security and Medicare!!!!
I think he was over animated because Obama was lifeless. (btw I think Obama threw the debate)
Could have been great.
ME!!!!!! (54 in DEc)
If he did not take a baseball bat to that smirking little douche, he showed admirable restraint. Just sayin’.
we need to pound these cutters to the ground. (and throw them out of Washington)
Here, here!
always liked him too, thought he was a pretty straight up guy along time ago, liked him since probably before the anita hill hearings— bright guy, knows his stuff, does his own homework
Christine !
Howsabout some Grand Marnier ? What a night, huh ?
Biden psyched Ryan from the get go, then beat him on every key point…
here, here, here!
We can only wish for such justice in this country.
Better yet, time to demand it.
The only way he would look creepier is if Ryan put on a Blue Step and Goose-stepped around the Stage …
Some of us over 60s (61 in Feb!) oppose cuts in SS/Medicare for anyone. Actually pisses me off that the Rethugs think they can buy me off by promising that I won’t get hurt by their BS (not that I would even shake hands with them without counting my fingers after). What about my son and grandsons? Do these assholes really think that I do not care about them?
watching the rerun. Ryan is playing the current seniors against us and trying to play us against them.
Hate that smirking chimp.
may I say “fuck”
O’s 2
Yankees 1
13 innings
Final
FUCK!
x2
class-age warfare
Ryan and Romny’s flag pins are bigger.
They win.
I have been oiling my guillotine and sharpening the pitchforks for a while now.
Gin and tonic just poured! I told my boss that I would at the beginning of the debate, but just poured now to sip and read here. I will always love Biden — for very personal reasons of growing up in Delaware, and much, much more.
Joe did all the smirking, but there was nothing “game-changing” about the debate.
Eddie Munster.
Needed when you least expect it. Keep it up.
Time for me to toddle off. Take care all.
I am a Marxist (and I don’t mean Groucho).
Huh? The Yankees are the “rich team”.
Come on, Ryan had a smirk most of the night too. Don’t play that game, you’ll lose.
I love when Ryan says if we taxed all the rich at 100% it would only run the gov for a few months.
Let’s do it. That’s three months more then today. And then we can start on their wealth which would just about pay off the debt.
If the medium is the message and you like yours well done then this whole cooked up fiasco was pretty raw. On the other ham; Biden was a bit of a boar and Ryan was happier than a pig in poop just to be on stage. But, as usual, some pigs are more equal than others. So, I think in this particular instance, despite all the squealin’, Biden is Boss Hog and Ryan is Missed Piggy. And the audience is hearing the soundtrack from Deliverance and hoping it’s over quickly. And doesn’t hurt too much.
If you watch the debate with the sound off, Ryan looks like the adult.
g’night doc
I loved how Biden contradicted the State Department on Bengahzi security.
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/10/11/biden_contradicts_state_department_on_benghazi_security
I’m watching it again with the sound on.
Ryan lost.
Ryan knew it.
Thank the lord.
Not everything is what it seems regarding Bengahzi.
Oh, please.
But, of course, most of us listened to the actual words, facts, ideas.
I don’t even like Obama, but I do think Biden is quite okay…..
maybe it’s an age thing, but I just can’t see why you found him so awful. I’ll ask my young friends (30 to 40 year olds.) Maybe he came off as Grampa to them. He seemed fine to me.
Okay, I give up. Good night, everyone.
Making myself crazy — back to watching MSNBC…I am nuts.
Hey Dearie! What a night.
I’m with you; let them start pricing gated communities in Somalia.
speaKING of somalia—-i think when Obama and Biden need to be tough guys they should remind people how our really cool sharpshooting troops blew the faces off those Somali pirates; just a change of pace from “we killed bin Laden
I liked him, (not that way, of course). But when he slammed the f*ck out of Pious Paul, he did so with such a beautiful rendition of sorrow, not anger, and I definitely liked that.
His boss could cop a few style points from him and it wouldn’t hurt.
I have to differ with you there; reducing random darker-hued types all over the planet to airborne ephemera hasn’t exactly paid off so far.
One can but hope. I’m not sure what was going on with Obama last time around, but I’m getting kind of tired of Obama reinvigorating the R=Party again and again. Get a damned grip, I say.
Biden may have won on points, but it wasn’t a rout. And Joe stepped in it on Benghazi.. which we haven’t heard the last of..
but all those undecideds love it!!!
why– “we’re going to get to the bottom of it” is always a good answer in my book; he should of just said that and shut up, though
He would have been fine if he left at that, but he didn’t, which will give the right more ammunition to attack the administration on the piss poor way they have handled the Benghazi situation from the get-go.
Not a rout, unless you were watching on TV. Call me a DFH firebagger or whatever, but the very sight of that smarmy, overconfident Eddie Munster, lying and whining ad nauseam, couldn’t have possibly won a single heart.
hag, I would never call you that (unless you asked real nice). And I did watch the whole debate, and while I do agree that Biden did better overall, I respectfully disagree with your conclusion that Joe mopped the floor with him. initial polling suggests the same. http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2012/10/11/vp_debate_polls_insta_polls_show_split_decision_in_vp_debate.html
Everyone chill. Read Nate. Last election I had a piece of paper that tracked the election plus what Nate predicted. Guesss what? Nate’s predictions were within .0003%. Even for elections as dumb as dog catcher. Trust Nate.
Oh, you can call me all those things, under the right circumstances, but that isn’t the point. I’m known for my somewhat questionable taste in men, but yet after that debate I disliked Ryan considerably more than I had before, which is saying something. Forget the polls; what matters is what is remembered, which is that Ryan looked and acted like a dumber than average frat boy who was a lot less hot with the lights on. His “brand,” the wonky number cruncher who also kills Bambi and climbs (we think) lots of mountains, and way sexier than Bob Dole, was damaged tonight.
That douchebag thing again…
May I please break this tie?
Charles K on Fox said it was a tie. Why? Because if you were “just listening” Biden won. If not, Ryan won. Why? Cuz pretty is the BESTEST? I dunno. But like I said before:
Everyone chill. Read Nate. Last election I had a piece of paper that tracked the election. And also, I tracked what Nate predicted. Guess what? Nate’s predictions were within .0003%. Even for elections as dumb as dog catcher. Trust Nate.
Also? Stop calling me a geek.
“Tie” seems a little generous, but undoubtedly profitable to the MSM. Ryan is cute, sorta, but only in the most regrettable way, to those of us who have made such mistakes before. The problem with Mitt, Paul, Ann, and all is that they are practically cartoon villains; toddlers watching the TV can get it.
No wonder they want to get rid of Sesame Street.
Can’t believe anyone is even watching these “debates.”
ROTFLOL!
I didn’t waste my valuable time watching two rich entitled white men lying to me.
That said, I could’ve summed up what happened without watching anyway. Despite some of my skepticism about “Uncle Joey,” I do tend to like him a bit and also think he’s got some cleverness going for him, plus in some ways I think he hasn’t sold ALL of his heart to the highest bidder. But Uncle Joey can haul out the whoopass when he feels like it.
Doltish R-Ayn, despite his years in Congress & possibly having some smarts, is a loathsome sociopathic narcissist who sold out to the 1% long ago. It was clear to me that he’d do poorly in a “debate” with Uncle Joey.
That said, the rightwing corporate-owned propoganda wurlitzer is most definitely NEVER EVER gonna say that the “D” team actually “won” a debate. Never gonna happen. So you’ll have the usual bullshit baloney about how Uncle Joey was this ‘n that, but in the end, Biden “blew it” in some major way as yet not really specified. And then that means that lil Eddie Munster – the backwards hat wearing arm-curling gym-rat DUUUUUDE – managed to squeak out a WIN!
Booyah! Do I get a prize for my clairvoyance or what?