As you might expect one of the awesome things about the Mitt Romney non-sex Tape is its incredible logical inconsistency. My favorite contradictions:
The president’s foreign policy, in my opinion, is formed in part by a perception he has that his magnetism, and his charm, and his persuasiveness is so compelling that he can sit down with people like Putin and Chavez and Ahmadinejad and that they’ll find that we’re such wonderful people that they’ll go on with us, and they’ll stop doing bad things. And it’s an extraordinarily naive perception.
Yes, it is naive of Obama to think he has a “magical” effect on foreign leaders — it’s like he can shoot fiery death from the sky without any moral compunction. How unrealistic.
Romney doesn’t believe in that magic transforming bullshit.
“My own view is that if we win on November 6th, there will be a great deal of optimism about the future of this country. We’ll see capital come back and we’ll see — without actually doing anything — we’ll actually get a boost in the economy.”
See, completely rational.



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Capital has been flowing here strongly all year from Europe and to an ever larger but stealthy amounts from China. Trouble elsewhere has been bullish for US markets and some has trickled down to keep GDP growing at a 2.5% rate. (that isn’t enough for the now out of character Progressive community and its new found love of endless fast growth)
Mitt should know this. He should know the “confidence” is in the US because of faith in the governments/Feds ability to manipulate the markets or at least faith that the US is the least bad option for capital. In fact Obama has been a rock on those fronts and a president Mitt would likely rock that boat. Simply because he is more and more obviously a loose cannon, just like McCain was. Of course back then we didn’t know that Obama was all in with The Street, but they did.
Nancy Wilson would not be amused — she got chained to Sarahcuda four years ago.
Does this mean I will finally get a pony for Christmas?????
The GOP has, for two consecutive campaigns, put forward an unfit candidate for the office. Or at least an incompetent campaigner. One has to wonder why this can be the case.
The use of the extreme right wing of the party, the power of the Tea Party element withing the current Republican Party, the result of the effort to re-elect George W. Bush by using the right, has had a serious and detrimental effect upon its poor choices for Presidential timber.
But, at the same time, the right has been responsible for the gains of the GOP in the Legislature, I think. With the Presidential race looking ever more like an Obama victory I cannot help but ponder the makeup of the next Congress.
“We’ll see capital come back……”
Does that mean that Mitt will bring back his zillions from the Cayman Islands and Switzerland.
I disagree. I believe the 2010 Democratic bloodbath was due more to Democratic politicians behaving like Republicans than due to the right wing of the GOP behaving like they do. In this country, punishing one major party always = rewarding the other one. I tried to explain that to some people on this blog back then who insisted that electing Republicans in 2010 would “wake the Democrats up” or would “force the Democrats left” or other such puerile nonsense. Of course all that did was to encourage more insane behavior from the teabaggers, How’d that work out for ya? Yet this cycle we still have people claiming that all we have to do is punish those Democrats and everything will be ponies and rainbows for Progressives.
Good morning, pups. We’ve got Dowd and Friedman today. In “Let Them Eat Crab Cake” MoDo says it’s rich. Mitt Romney thinks poor folks are on Easy Street. It’s not just Mittens, dear. For 10 years now we’ve been hearing about these “lucky duckies,” and right wing hate talk radio just keeps on catapulting the propaganda. The Moustache of Wisdom says “Look in Your Mirror,” and that if it’s wrong to insult Islam, it should be wrong to insult any religion. That doesn’t seem to be the case in the Arab world. Tom, I don’t think it’s necessarily being helpful to yell “Oh yeah? Well you do too.”
Here they are.
The coffee and tea are ready, and I’ve got banana pancakes this morning. Mittens apparently thinks that the tape serves to clarify his position. Well, not that we didn’t already know what your position was Money Boo Boo, but we didn’t know how extremely tone deaf you are. The debates may be fun, unless they have folks like Dancin’ Dave moderate… Have a great day.
This is the dangerous part of persecutory delusional disorder. It’s too late for cognitive therapy, even if you could get them to turn off Fox News and the thousand other media outlets feeding their illness. They’re about to be confronted with inescapable reality. Frankly, I expect violence.
I don’t really care who the “moderators” are because I don’t see how either Rmoney or Ryan debate Obama and Biden and maintain credibility with any but the third of voters who are right wing nutjobs. I think it would be better for them, relatively speaking, if they refuse to debate. They’ll still lose but they’ll maybe have a chance of not permanently destroying their respective political careers.
Unfortunately, I do too. It will finally reveal the tea party for what it is but at what cost?
Boy, did he get Obama wrong. Magnetism? Perusuasivness? Obama’s foreign policy might be best described as “Bully with Drones”.
Boxturtle (Like Mitt’s policy will be any different)
I describe Obama’s foreign policy as “W’s foreign policy”…
I’m with you, the Dems brought that on themselves.
Voting for GOPers to send a message sends the wrong message. Supporting progressive primary candidates (when we’re permitted to do so) is the best way to send the right message.
Boxturtle (You can tell when you’re sending the right message. You’ll hear “LALALALA we can’t hear you”)
Dunno if it sends the wrong message but it’s axiomatic that the intended recipients are going to get the wrong message. They are simply too egotistical and too insulated to possibly get the intended message.
Gotta go to work!
I hope you’re wrong, but I fear you’re right. Are we going to see white hoods outside the polling stations once again?
And if Obama wins, how many people are angry enough to grab their guns and head for DC?
Boxturtle (And will they be led by Rush, Fox, or their church?)
Actually, I see Mitt using code language for the 1%, and he’s telling his base that he knows they’ll all come back and do the right thing if he gets into office where he can fight class warfare on their side. Trouble is, w did exactly that and it resulted in total disaster.
I think Mitt’s career is dead already if he doesn’t win. At the very least, it’s on hold until he can release enough tax years to satisify without going prior to 2011.
I think that’s good advice for Ryan. He still comes across as exactly the politician he always was and the debate might well make him look the fool. Especially if he can’t issue a clarification without being cross-examined.
Boxturtle (Suspects that several topics will be off limits in the debates by mutual agreement)
Thanks, Marion, it’s interesting that occasionally the stenographers giving out stuff on that Mittapeworm mention that ‘some think’ he was just trying to play up to the funder sorts. Face it, pounding on this theme is about trying to be part of the group, which is why most wingnuts seem to adopt the totally absurd position that eventually if they keep on clapping the deficit fairies will start making jobs. It was disproved under w and there’s zero reason to believe in it again. That doesn’t stop the wingnuts, since fact has nothing to do with their firm belief in the 1% again.
I have already seen some positively frightening things on Facebook from my right wing friends, having to do with gun violence if the election doesn’t turn out in their favor.
I think we should all be very concerned, but vote against Mitt in any way we can.
They may be off limits officially, but that won’t stop someone from slipping in a related barb. And that sound bite will be the only thing we hear about ad nauseum from the debates.
Exactly…Mitt, the new Santa Claus…..but Santa likes ALL the people and Mitt is very picky.
How great should Ryan lose his State race as well; what a guy.
I think the unfit GOP candidates go back a lot longer than the last two.
Bob Dole? It was just his turn. Gerald Ford? He should have been dumped in ’76, or better yet never adopted as Nixon’s pet rock. It’s just always been a country clubbish party. The social network prevails except perhaps during Reagan, who was an outlier.
Romney is just carrying the Ford/Dole/Bush torch.
Is “d) All of the above” an option?
The pundits have been saying, abandon Mitt and focus on the Senate.
PTB kabuki theater.
“Obama’s popular. Let the rabble have him. What difference does it make, if he can’t get much done, even with a Democratic Congress and what little he does is neoliberal anyway? Focus on taking over Congress.”
Mitt Romney, America’s Fortunate Son. The quint essential corporate Aristoi, Jefferson feared. The notion that this clown will protect America and American jobs is an illusion and lie. He shipped the jobs to China. His words are meaningless rhetoric, not matched with his actions
Go choke on a hard boiled egg. Hope one of those 47% has enough compassion to employ a quick squeeze or two to dislodge the hard boiled egg from your windpipe, while your actions suffocated how many jobs, in the name of Mammon? Hope your bus driver doesn’t hit a bridge abutment. The same bridge abutment Wall Street drove America into some years back aided by your handlers and current advisers? Speaking of transfers of wealth from the people to corporate slime in legalized crime? Mitt must suffer from dementia, while attempting to avoid cow dung piles and future face plants in camel dung….
ncbb @ 25
it’s all kabuki: “voter fraud” is rove’s distraction from the privatized computer-voting system. obama will “win” and the TPP, monsanto gmo’s, x-l pipeline, privatized prisons-schools, mercenary military police, chamber-of-commerce state dept, privatizing of interstate highways, conversion of property to rentals, and syphoning of “digital money” to the “financial empire” will continue. the only thing overlooked by the “elite” is after robber-barrons steal everything from the peasants, they turn on each other.
meantime, the monitized destruction will continue and people will slowly realize that their neighbors and communities are their only refuge in the coming turmoil. also the barter system has worked well in past, and those with skills will become community treasures once again.
The GOP always plays the long game. They’ve long had their eye on 2016, hence Romney this year. A planned disaster. The country is a mess, and best for them for Obama to win, for them to keep the House and play 4 more years of Obama attempting Grand Bargains and them screaming “socialism!!!” They saw what happened in 2008 after 8 years of GWB disaster. 2016 is a chance of 8 years of Obama disaster and two new faces to run for president. When your only platform is “government fails” It is best for it to fail for the GOP. We’ll tilt even further right both GOP and democrats following them like dogs, it never ends.
I understand your position and some of the points you make are certainly valid. Certainly moving to the right, as many Democratic candidates have done, and as the party has done as a whole contributed to the huge losses in 2010.
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Democrats voting for Republican candidates though seems an unlikely plan or strategy and Ive no real information supporting such silliness. Anyone doing such is in need of a reality check certainly.
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As Ive consistently insisted voting for rightward leaning Democrats seems as pointless as voting for further rightward leaning Republicans. Those who posit that voting third party is really voting for the GOP holds little water with me, frankly. Many would simply not vote at all should there be no alternative to either major party candidate for many offices.
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My point about the Congress is that Tea Parties have much sway in local elections, more so than nationally certainly. They get Congresspersons elected in droves it seems, but ,so far, struggle a bit with Senate races.
Progressives have very little to choose from on far too many ballots these days.
If we cannot get voters out in the streets to protest, or even vote in many cases, how do you think they will be energized enough to commit violence I wonder?
I can say that, should the economic trending continue, should so many more be without jobs, homes or hope, then yes, violence will surely occur. But this is a decade or more off at best I think.
Further, violence plays directly into the hands of those with the power, though Egypt and Libya beg to differ.