Finally, convention season is in the home stretch. I’m pretty sure Obama’s closing speech will be a lot better than Romney’s, but I’m curious which disillusioned ex-supporters he’ll try to appeal to. Will it be progressives who think he’s an authoritarian, corrupt sellout? Or RNC staffers who think he spends too much money and hangs out with too many celebrities?
I think the odds are better that we’ll get happy talk about bipartisan compromise and Grand Bargains on cutting Medicare and Social Security than anything about peace, unions, or corporate accountability, but I’m happy to be proven wrong.
Tonight’s closing schedule, per WaPo:
9:00 PM – 10:00 PM (LOCAL)
Video: Veterans
Remarks
Admiral John B. Nathman
United States Navy, RetiredIntroductory Remarks
Angie FloresRemarks
Dr. Jill Biden
Second Lady of the United StatesVice President Joe Biden Video
Remarks
The Honorable Joe Biden
Vice President of the United States10:00 PM – 11:00 PM (LOCAL)
Video and Remarks
The Honorable Dick Durbin
Member of the US Senate, IllinoisPresident Barack Obama Video
Remarks
Barack Obama
President of the United StatesCelebration
Benediction
His Eminence Timothy Dolan
Roman Catholic Cardinal and Archbishop of New York



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ELI!
GREENWARRIOR!
ELI!!
ELLIOTT!!
I got a kick out of Granholm
I never thought I’d be sorry I missed a John Kerry speech…
Dang it, I missed Granholm.
GREENWARRIOR!
ELI!
ELLIOT!
MARY!
I didn’t see anyone on tonight’s schedule who looked likely to argue with a chair, but with Joe Biden anything is possible.
ELI…….more bread and circuses
Hi everybody!
dont be sorry…….more words…little action
hi jp
MARY!
SADLY…..This is only slightly more interesting than the Olympics.
Hi jp!
The only good thing about these conventions is that they drive the other side’s loyalists crazy.
wish I had some booze.
Hi sadly and eli!
show me!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3X2y9iGS5M
oh my
BWAhahahahahahahahahahaha
I’ve been sippin’ a canberry & vodka for the past hr. – I’m ready for this.
here! i’ll share my chocovine.
pushes a pink champagne cocktail down the bar
I like rum and anything. Might have to go to 7-11 right soon.
ooooo-Thanks!
Granholm
Aren’t there over 30,000 mercenaries being paid by the US taxpayer still in Iraq?
If the war is over let’s stop the checks.
Jill Biden is a little bit sickening like too much marshmallow fluff (imo)
Picky picky.
i really can’t watch this.
When is Dan Choi speaking?
mute is your friend
Oh look, Ed Rendell. Yay.
You’d have to threaten me with Tilsit cheese to watch this.
Obysmal speechifying would induce alcohol poisoning.
thanks.
Kerry was good. Especially his one-liners. It reminds me of growing up with ex-pat Chicago Dems in the 50s-60s. The Irish do have the best retorts and lefthanded compliments. The putdown has been refined to an honored art. Kerry could’ve been meaner. He could of said Mitt Romney: ” Ya understand that Mitt has been on so many sides of every issue that the only way he can have sex with Ann is on an octagon bed. “
golf clap,respectable shot!,but that thought makes me throw up
I like how Biden says his and Obama’s focus is on giving the middle class “a shot”. So, y’know, not necessarily jobs, but lots of interviews!
Joe Biden made that lady cry!
*putting on sunglasses*
eli!
suz!
po BHO looks teh tired
hope dolan gets booed; good way to close the convention
Jebus on a cracker, Granholm was GREAT!
How drugged up do these people have to be to lie so straight faced?
Hi, Mary.
I’m back from camping at the beach.
But, the point is I saw a woman today who mightacoulda been your twin. I stared so hard she turned to me. I just smiled and kept walking. Well, she was checking out “spots” so I didn’t want to bother her.
Hi.
wish i could afford these peeps dentists……wowza
(whispering) eli
I can’t shout it out right now.
But, Thanks and grrrrrreate to see ya, and all the pups.
they got rolls royce dental care
Good to see you too, demi.
Joe would have been a better prez then BHO imo
HEY, ELI! I’m watching but I’ll be glad when this is over.
I love Joe Biden.
up top—– how come Biden is listed as “honorable” but Obama is not
you, me and——– that’s it;
…and I love live-blogging. Thanks, Eli.
HEY, TWAIN! Yeah, me too. Conventions are probably more valuable for a non-incumbent who needs to formally introduce himself to the voters. We’ve had four years to get to know the president already.
Comes naturally when you’re a sociopath.
scary!
She was wound up, wasn’t she?
No, I like Joe too. I think it’s the sharky grin and loose cannoniness.
You’re not alone. I have always liked Biden and think he would have been a good prez.
steak and potatoes regular Joe,imo
Somebody ‘splain to me what that pedophile-enabler and gay-hater Bishop Tim™ Dolan’s doing there at the end of the program, please?
You are not alone.
He’s the bookend to the hating preacher who spoke at O’s inauguration.
I saw that too.
I make a great paralegal. Too bad we live so far apart.
Please refrain from showing your approval until the ” magic undies ” are firmly tied and back in their proper place. Then focus on this Mormom female mantra: ” 180, 179, 178, 177, … 4321. Damn your good. “
To show that Democrats aren’t godless heretics, obviously.
Joe divide-Iraq-into-3-pieces-Biden?
Surely a guy who wears great cufflinks.
I like him too, and he’s pretty good at speechifying.
excuse the Jewish song
Tradition …da da da da
Well, I think it’s important to see the differences, in general, between the two.
Maybe I’m being blinded by my values. I guess we all are.
and Senator MBNA….
I have no idea which Barack Obama Joe is talking about. Then again, I guess it depends on exactly what principles it is Obama refuses to back down from…
okay Joe is lying now
77 was for you
She shined. The way you do.
And, I also thought that Grandholm was awesome. Really awesome.
Chick’s got balls And charisma.
poor speech; 4 years ago was better– like Joe but this is not so good
cause it is not believable…too many back room deals
Well, to be fair, his job is to go out there and talk about what a great guy and fierce advocate Obama is. Not an easy task.
same reason they “put God back in the platform” they’re pussies—
Biden insisting Romney’s not a bad guy and shushing catcallers is quite a contrast from the Republican convention…
oh Mitty is not a bad guy………he is beezlebub,uhmBeelzebub
His speech has a different motive this time, don’t you think?
Someone earlier on the site asked why Michelle didn’t talk about climate change. That wasn’t the purpose of her speech. Not at all. I hope the president does speak to it, however.
I think every single speech has been planned, for issues, for personal appeal and for bringing in fence straddlers.
It’s politics. It’s money. It’s about persuasion.
careful, you may have a pussy riot on your hands with that kind of talking.
They aren’t pussies, they are dick weeds.
Eli…!
Always a pleasure to see ya…!
Especially under such trying circumstances…! ;-)
Hey Sweetie!
Not watching, but Biden’s been a plagiarizer all his life, so why shouldn’t he also plagiarize Jerry Seinfeld’s tidy-bowl gleaming teeth?
“Conviction… resolve… Barack Obama!” Woooow.
no I understand but 4 years ago seemed much more natural—- these seems stilted; oh well; i still like Joe— bright guy— they say he does his own homework, always has, doesn’t let staff do everything- contrast with Bush
CTut…!
Good to see you too!
I agree. Hope it gets better.
LOL– ok,
Democrats are closing the USA chant gap!
his hair isn’t cut or combed well (in the back)
Am i better off than i was four years ago? Jumping baldheaded Jeebus i cant do more than keep sucking air. Not that i really want anything. Perhaps i dont want something, like not killing innocents and not killing all of us. But them i am a fucking DFH in a dream.
USA! USA!! USA!!!
Don’t Fuck With ‘Merica!!
hahahahahaha
tis a bit much,but the crowd is nice looking
yea 20 30k teeth the elite dems have
Both sides know the fascist chant. Now maybe they can join together and start a war or something.
these people oughta just stay on their feet ‘stead of poppin’ up and down
No point in making a comment at this point.
Eli! Actually,I am better off. Got laid off the week after the election in ’08.
After some temp jobs over the three years, finally got a (theoreticall) perm job this past April. So, yeah, even though the pay kinda sucks, any pay is better than no pay, so hell yes, I’m better off.
“Bravery resides in the heart of Barack Obama.” Also courage, compassion, and a spine of steel.
“Osama bin Laden is dead and General Motors is alive!” is a great line tho.
Osama the CIA asset?
USA! Blow the fucking brains out of an unarmed man!
Tejana! Congratulations!
demi! At night!
it was
Dropped in the ocean? ha ha ha
I heard them say recently that he was already dead when they reached his room.
That is their story.
just being honest
oh oh THEDEBT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gotta love Joe, but his grasp of facts are, shall we say, real loose.
Good pushback on Republican lies about Medicare and debt. Too bad it’s almost certainly in service of a Simpson-Bowles Grand Bargain.
Forgot about those. Teeth & cufflinks.
i like Gov Beelzebub
i NEED those teeth!!!at KIA prices
I don’t know why he says these things, because surely they’ll be fact-checked. Like the auto bailout.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1208/16740.html
Biden mentions Dream Act, camera hunts for Hispanic-looking people in the crowd.
Required for HDTV.
I baby-sat my friend a few years ago at the dentist for his $25k work (and his father was a dentist!) Last year he had to have all the work re-done.
It is really hard for me to get past that and his promised four trillion cut. could be the deal breaker for me.
Why did it have to be redone?
OBL is dead?
HABEAS CORPUS! (“Bring us the body” … “that is, if you want us to believe it.”)
Oh, habeas corpus is dead, too?
I pretty much started at night, then moved my way through the site, so most people know me.
Back from the beach. :) Hell to come home to, ain’t it?
But, I’m in a good and relaxed mood, which helps. Alot.
I’m sorry…Far too old and cynical to keep watching these conventions.
Yes, we *do* deserve a president who will never quit on us. Now, where can we find one?
Friend sent me a pic of a thong floating in water. Convinced me. /s(if needed)
Didn’t you get the text? They couldn’t bring the body back or the Muslims would have gone nuts or show us pictures or anything because it would gross us out.
What this speech makes me wonder is just how awful are those jobs numbers that are coming out tomorrow?
Both Joe and Obama have been informed of them, incidentally.
zomg…gotta head back to France,prolly get it done for 3k im thinking
“America is not in Decline”!!
Umm, Joe….
Matthew, don’t you think the producers have had the cameras checking out where all the different kinds of people are?
Hours ago.
/heh
Biden is steppin’ on some great one-liners. The guy who wrote this speech must be cringing. Remember Joe’s destruction on C-Span when he did the ” who shot cock robin ” thing on the Senate floor. Anyway, Obama should have the guy who announces boxing matches. Ya know, ” the let’s get reeeeaaddy to rumble ” dude. Kick some booty, Barackster, or die trying. The other side is ready for it, too.
I’d like Joe to name one piece of foreign policy advice the president has taken. Name one. Partition Iraq? I don’t think so. Skip the Afghan surge? Nope. Wait on OBL raid? No.
Really, it’s like Obama keeps Biden around as Opposite Man.
O: What does Joe say?
Biden: X. Y. Z.
O: Well, then we’re SURE not doing X, Y, and Z. Let’s do A-B-C.
Seriously, name one thing, Joe.
R U watching? Would Garrison be watching?
Our political system is pretty close to rock bottom, and that’s usually a leading indicator.
Courage!!!
They know they can get away with that lie because most Americans never travel overseas and see how much in decline we are.
yup
It’s amazing how those hair plugs have held up.
It’s not just us. Have you been following what’s going on in Europe?
Ill-fitting he said, but I think the dentist should have insisted on removing all the teeth instead and made plates.
There isn’t one.
Reading bio of William Lloyd Garrison who made a moral case for not voting & argued strenuously against lesser-of-evils on moral grounds as long as slavery existed.
Today I find additional moral support from W.E.B DuBois.
Btw, he is related to the builder of my 1817 Huguenot (Hendrikus DuBois) house, a relationship which one of my acquaintances in the local historic pres did not respond to LOL.
she’s a sweetie; i like her
i returned from France in May,their middle class is more robust than Americas
At least Europe has a superb train system, lot’s of alternative energy already up and running, and houses that won’t fall apart in a decade or two.
he’s “honorable” too
I read a fun piece in TNY awhile back, personal history from an expat senior living in France, visiting his dentist. Tells the hygienist “I floss every day”, hygienist says “Not necessary”. I gathered the point was that it’s cheaper to visit the dentist.
Have you been following what’s going on in Europe?
Well, yeah. They’ve been doing what we’ve been doing. Pushing austerity. With the same predictable miserable results.
Lawyer-speak will be the undoing of us all!
Obama’s the more effective of the two evils. On behalf of the 1%.
But twenty five or thirty percent unemployment and riots are not really a great thing.
I have friends in Europe their middle class lives are way better then the middle class rat race life over here.
/co-sign
Rmoney is such easy pickings; if the Dems can’t take that creep out, they got no bidness. . .
what about Shirley Sherrod
tru dat
Our unemployment is nearing 20% don’t let anyone kid you it’s lower.
We just don’t have the proximity that allows people to take to the streets en masse and then there’s the little problem of the prescription drugs and TV that has people numbed up.
Yeah, we really saw Obama’s courage, compassion and steely spine there…
Dunno, they kept moving around–found an Asian-American woman, she frowned, then quickly moved on. The perils of identitarian politics!
i lived it for a few weeks…it was`surprising
You should have all of your dental work done in Mexico or Costa Rica. Really. Cheaper and just as good. Dentistry in the US is filled with a bunch of grifters. $2000 for a crown? Really? And I live in Sacramento. Can’t imagine what it would be in Marin County or San Francisco. So, I go without.
Western Europe rushing to catch up on the race to the bottom.
It was 2008, Bush, fercrissakes, that bailed out the auto industry!
Where are the jobs Obama???!!!!!!
If nothing else, that should tell you how in on it both the parties are.
Aloha, jayt…! It’s been a long while…!
The elite live well all over. But I don’t believe everyone else does. Never saw the 20% here. But you may have a better source.
hey guys, have you been sending letters to Obama?
Maybe that why he doesn’t know how shitty of a job we think he’s doing.
Man, hearing about how courageous and determined Obama is just never gets old.
More then half the people I know over 50 have no jobs or are just working a few weeks here and there.
People who used to make serious money.
ELI! PUPS!
Bill Clinton, quoting W.
Priceless
BG!
Now they’re bragging about killing the CIA asset rather than run the risk he stands trial and spills the beans.
Understatement./
With Clooney narrating.
What a disappointment.
God. What a government. Lies, lies and more lies.
Heh, go with the lying flow.
By saying that, are you implying that Romney/Ryan will be more effective for the 99%? Is that what you are saying?
Yes or No.
or the tough choices on insurance care
What if the president were just some pot-bellied schmo. . . but really fought the corporations and helped the unions and working people and struggled to bring an end to the military-industrial-welfare complex? What would all these PR people do for work?
What I’m saying is that Obama will be more effective for the 1%.
It’s best to hang out in jazz clubs, everyone’s teeth look yellow.
That’s easy: Try to bring him down.
Great looking family, really.
If we lived in a world with an effective but ugly president the PR people wouldn’t exist.
I lost. Blue tie tonight.
Trying to throw us.
I guess Obama knows we are on to him and what side he really works for.
Hey, I don’t remember voting for this guy to be the nominee….
I musta forgot.
There’s no doubt we are f’d up. But the western world is too or at least large parts of it. It’s that neoliberal lie – -we gotta have austerity and cut things. We are about to hear more of it now on the teevee.
That’s not what he was saying. He was saying that Obama is better positioned to do the job for the 1% (perhaps because he convinces so many of the 99% that he’s the best we can get to represent our interests).
That’s what being the more effective of the two evils means.
To have a Democrat achieve on behalf of the 1% what Obama has is a wet dream for the Haves and just not imaginable for Obama’s ‘most ardent supporters’. They refuse to believe their lyin’ eyes.
LOL.
You got that right.
Well, so much for the chance that he would refuse the nomination…
Hope has been tested. That’s an understatement.
“the fight to restore”. Not restoring them, but “the fight to”.
You doing something that will inspire others to get some change happening?
Lawyer-speak.
Obama will be more effective in helping the 1% than Willard Bain Romney? Seriously?
You betcha. ;-)
okay he is effing kiddin me,wall street plays by the same rules
BWAHAhahahahahahahahahahahah
nice to see yer fonts, GF.
This can’t be news to you, demi.
*wow* Fascism…! The last word I’d expected out of Obummer’s mouth…! ;-)
Started okay with the line about issues being buried in $ and being sick of approving the message but quickly lost me with the long WWII riff. He’ll be better off trashing the Republicans than talking about his record, that’s for sure.
This election will have a clear choice, between a mildly pro-choice corporate imperialist moderate Republican pretending to be a Democrat and a mildly pro-choice corporate imperialist moderate Republican pretending to be a teabagger.
He doesn’t seem very interested in changing that status quo.
yup,it is here in the USA,guess it always has been
Expect to see that line all over the internet by tomorrow, under my name. ;-)
This is a bit off topic, but did the President do Botox? His eyebrows aren’t moving.
Nice to be here, but, honey, it must be all the sun I got the last coupla days, ’cause I’m not understanding some folks here.
I should prolly say nite nite before I gets myself into trouble.
(Hi ya.)
why should any of the 1%ers want change?
He didn’t sound happy when he said “I’m running for a 2nd term for President of the United States”, or was that just me?
Spot on! Which makes it a bit easier for me. I’m ready to fight the man I voted for…. march, raise money to fight, whatever is needed. I couldn’t imagine voting for Ken-Doll Romney and the Republican Mob.
I think that’s a sign of his courage and resolve. His eyebrows are as steely as his spine.
Making things again.
License plates.
(Prison labor)
AAAAHHHHHH!!!!!! YOU ARE NOT,NOT, NOT CARRYING ON THE LEGACY OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY!!!!!!
OK the TV is fired up. On all three channels I get.
Cameras (?), drones overhead no doubt. Beaching it myself today.
Energy goals, XL pipeline coming to an aquifer near you.
What do you have that promotes the change you are bringing?
maybe just enough of the kind they like to increase their profits?
you can’t privatize everything without breaking a few eggs.
Why would you say Obama is ‘mildly pro-choice’?
Wait’ll ya see the TTP, babee…! Ya’ll will just luvs it…!
Obama, himself, supports voting for third parties over Democrats, even when Democratic turnout is at stake. Some, but not all, examples of Obama supporting third party or Republican candidates over Democrats:
Republican-turned-Independent Arlen Specter over progressive Democrat Joe Sestak in Pennsylvania.
Republican-turned-Independent Lincoln Chaffee over Democrat Frank Caprio (which, in turn, was an effective endorsement of the Republican John Loughlin over Democrat David Cicilline for the congressional seat Democrat Patrick Kennedy retired from, and all of the other seats up for grab in Rhode Island).
Republican-turned-Independent Charlie Crist over liberal Democrat Kendrick Meek in Florida.
he looks different
LOL.
I believe Specter turned Democrat, not Independent.
Clinton is smiling.
Good make up person.
No chicks at RNC in Cubbies uniforms, I bet
He did. He became a Dem.
(but BO is a White Sox fan)
I just looked at an older youtube and I think you are right. He doesn’t have those folds between his eyes any longer.
I will ask again, have you got something that is inspiring others to help you make the change you are bringing to your community?
“beneath our feet”?
Fracking.
Hate that. So you’re voting for Romney?
i think they are making a big mistake,by lowering wages people cant afford their products,even beastly Henry Ford knew this
Clean coal and fracking, WI is full of sand, dig us with no restrictions.
Eli!
“Wind, solar and
clean coal”oh well, two outta three.
Prolly not voting, just here to trash up the thread.
What do I have?
An aching back, that’s what I have.
Buzz!
This is speech has the same tone all of his speeches do. Slightly informative, slightly engaging, slightly boring.
“Cut our oil imports in half by 2020″. Easy. There won’t be any being exported for us to import.
It’s just WEIRD to live in a country where you want to weep with joy when your mildly pro-choice corporate imperialist moderate Republican pretending to be a Democrat president declares that climate change is in fact a real y’know thing. It’s just WEIRD. But there it is.
Yup. He’s definitely had work done.
Fracking.
No coincidence that the word even sounds obscene….
At least he was honest enough not to pretend that his record on bringing jobs in the solar industry to the US has been very good.
I’m still unhappy that he blew off Evergreen Solar (once based in MA, they were forced to go bankrupt in part because the Obama administration blew them off).
It is kind of boring. I’m surprised.
What did he have to do with the new building in NY?
i agree
drink!
Corporate but not insane.
So I guess that explains your miserable outlook here. Cos when people bitch and moan about what other people are doing not well enough, I just have to ask if you can’t offer an improvement.
“and students you gotta do the work.”
Speak English much?
Yes, he is. That’s when Democrats had their 2nd filibuster-proof Senate. When did I say different?
I googled. I think you should say this again for those who don’t realize it.
He’s saving the Morgan Freeman look till his last year in office.
What’s the, ” have another drink,” game tonight???
Um, here? “Republican-turned-Independent Arlen Specter over progressive Democrat Joe Sestak in Pennsylvania.”
cause we know him,and are no longer trubelievers
well, that’s all sounds great, so—– can I start leavin’ my shoes on when I wanna get on a plane, mr prez
Actually, he’s given a few inspiring speeches. This isn’t his best.
Oh, that’s a typo. Sorry, and thanks.
Thank god for small favors
Kill for peace! The day the cry for it does not bring a lusty cry from conventioneers’ throats is. . . probly not coming in my lifetime.
Hi Dearie,
Hope you are well.
did anybody talk about those somali pirates he got killed– kill! kill!!! DEems can kill too!!!
Be nice.
What’s also lost amongst the detritus, is the fact we don’t manufacture our own goods and clothing, etc., any more…! What if China suddenly decided to ban all exports to the US…? Jez saying…! 8-(
Think that’s part of it, and the speech is pretty much a laundry list.
It’s a contraction.
It’s an effective strategy. You just have to do A LOT of killing.
Same to ya.
Oh, here comes the “I worked with Republicans” and the deficit crap.
I am, and thanks. Busy. Hope all is well with you and the dear girl.
The crowd was pretty silent when he said “bipartisan”. Can’t blame them.
Asshole
Middle class citizens don’t have homes anymore…
reach across that aisle
Yeah. ‘Cuz that worked real well the last four years.
You have to do the work. not gotta.
He refuses to allow tax cuts for the rich? When did he refuse, in 2010?
I’m being nice, to you. I’m under no obligation to be nice to or about Obama.
Don’t make it personal. I am an old OLD liberal Democrat who has worked for decades in both the party and in government. I match my efforts to deliver to the 99% with anyone else’s, and you’re just going to have to accept that on faith.
I turned it off. When he talks about a leaner government I start thinking about his emotional need to cut social security and medicare and medicaid and that lame thing he calls health care.
Thanks and yes.
reach across that aisle.
I’m thinking it’s more a reach-around…
Is it acceptable for the assembled throng to hiss the quietly-killing-medicare-and-medicaid-while-talking-up-protecting-social-security part of his speech? The slipping-Bowles-Simpson-past-the-soporized-legions-in-the-middle-of-the-night part of the speech?
“strengthen” == cut
Does anybody else here get kicked off and have to relog back in to FDL every few minutes?
Don’t hold back now.
LOL
Simpson-Bowles, back on the table.
Dipshit
happens. Are you on Chrome?
I’m also an old liberal, and I’m probably as disgusted as you are. But, I’ll ask again: Who are you going to vote for? I cannot bear the thought of Romney slithering into the White House….. I just can’t. But I also think it’s okay to trash Obama’s flaws, failures, obfuscations, and lies! And then let’s get to work trying to save this democracy.
I think he was going for this.
got·ta
[got-uh] Show IPA
Pronunciation Spelling .
got to; have got to.
Yep, raising/eliminating the cap on the payroll tax is still a taboo subject. Cutting benefits is the *only* option.
do you think he will cut the subsidies in his ACA?
Entrepreneurs, I had to take a class to learn how to pronounce that.
yup,or privatize to the cronies
The Simpson-Bowles Trifecta
um—- he seems nice enough, but he’s kinda full o’ shit
This clown would be selling hot dogs in front of Wrigley Field if he had run on a Grand Bargain. Traitor.
Dan Choi helped win the end of DADT by chaining himself to the White House fence. I am ready to do that for the things we liberals care about….. as many times as needed. Obama is a huge disappointment, but Romney is one mofo sicko destroyer IMHO.
Well, I doubt I’m far behind you. But I also am not giving anyone a pass to just talk shit, and believe me I can do it with the best of ‘em.
And I have knocked on more doors than almost any candidate in my years of activism.
And more. I am just saying that I don’t think trash talk is going to help any of us much, so I do my best to bring what I want to work on and will work with just about anyone to do just about anything for common good purpose.
If your talk makes you feel better, have at it, but I don’t find it very useful. Just sayin’.
If the GOP wants him do, he will.
Boring.
ont-a-pa-nooor
Kinda?
Essentially, Obama sucks, but Romney sucks more.
Ugh.
Have I heard this speech before or is it just another one of those annoying acid flashbacks?
I did it! I did it! I did it! wai, that guy in Colorado, i don’t like him
stop; i didn’t do shit
Agreed, although I’m hoping that this can be stopped. It didn’t get off the ground the first time around and two months of (what I assume will be) a lot of talk about the importance of the safety net … irrational hope I guess.
Thank you.
I love this comment.
First Four Years of Obama can be summed up with Predator Drones, TARP, HAMP, Predatory Lending, Union Busting, Privatization, Oil/Pharma/Ag/AHIP Subsidies, Goldman Sachs, Extraordinary Rendition, Perpetual War, Predation on the 99 percent.
Next four years: more of same with added focus on Austerity for the 99 percent.
And your suggestion is….:
That’s what I say every freaking day. Sigh.
2010 was “We Suck Less”, 2012 is “Okay, We Suck Too, But At Least We’re Not Fucking Crazy”.
But got is not proper. He should have used “have” not “got”.
You have to do the work.
You got to do the work.
Which is proper?
Obama sucks less, that is where I am at. And in general, the Democrats still have a better platform, for what that is worth.
And we have more hopeful hopey dopey.
i think more republicans were drunk at their convention
I’ve asked several flamers what they suggest. I’m willing to learn. I’ve yet to get an answer. Flame on if it makes you feel better. Venting can be therapeutic.
Erskine blows goats!
I’m gonna (going to) start using it! Better.
Yes, and I disagree with Clinton saying last night that nobody could have fixed this in four years. If actual liberal policies had been enjoined then I believe we’d pretty much be there right now.
I don’t vote for Republicans, no matter what initial is after their name.
I won’t vote for Romney and I’m not voting for Obama.
I won’t give you grief for saddling us with Obama, for dragging down this nation down (read this and how your vote for Obama does this) so please, don’t give me grief for not buying into your belief system.
Friends?
precisely
Did I miss it or has he not gotten to the four trillion in cuts?
x2
The shorter Obama: “How great that I kept a war going so you could blow your leg off and fill all your fellow ‘wounded warriors’ with hope!”
I stumbled into a bad remake of All Quiet On the Western Front toward the end of this guy’s speech.
I’m trying not to offend because I do not find you offensive. I’m merely asking what you think would help us recover from the mess we are in.
That’s it?
Mercifully it’s over…!
I give it a C-….
I wonder were Hugh is tonight.
Can you blame them?
I would agree. It wasn’t his best speech. He didn’t really seem to be into it, either.
I don’t ask for your pass, or your permission.
Of course.
A WPA was needed and still is needed. The gubmint CAN create jobs.
Oilbomber is a Republican.
He is Hoover.
I didn’t hear the four trillion in cuts. I heard he would use lower military spending to pay down debt but that’s already baked in. Maybe someone got him to back off?
Just think where we would be if this asshole had taken a jobs program to the people with that passion.
seen much better from him
I think either “You have to do the work” or “You have got to do the work”, with “gotta” simply being a contraction of the latter and clearly much more informal. I think in a proper document, paper, speech, etc it shouldn’t be used at all but when you’re trying to talk to everyone without sounding elitist then his choice helps with tone.
im want baloons!!!
Read the link I put up.
DJ f up.
I like Jill
Well, there’s still Cardinal Dolan. Not sure if that’ll be aired. Or if there’s any chance in hell that I’ll watch it if it is.
Sure, Cheney and Kissinger made him sell Austerity.
Selling Austerity sucks for anyone – even a vapid asshole like Oilbomber.
If I had to guess, I’d say that the job numbers coming out tomorrow are dismal.
Michelles brother must be 6’8 or so
And my sparkle puppy would be. . . waiting on my doorstep when I get home from Charlotte?
*huh* ‘We take care of our own’…? After just saying that Austere times are here, and, it’ll be a bipartisan
screwjobaffair…? *gah*It been a long time since we’ve seen your font.
How are things?
Well, I guess it depends on which usage of “take care of” it is…
still no balloons! what kind of fucking convention is this
I didn’t believe a word of it.
And what the hell is a kid have to be homeless for in the richest country on earth?
Thanks, I actually have read that link several times. Maybe I should be asking Jonathan Turley what he’s going to do about his vote. I am no fan of Obama, but I find Romney quite threatening and I do not think the 3rd party folks have any foothold..at all! Ah, well…..
Thanks Mary,
I misplaced that link in switching computers recently.
I tend to agree but only bc I didn’t hear anything about the four trillion in debt reduction.
was wondering who that was….
Down, boy!
Obama is objectively anti-balloon.
chintzy with the confetti, even
This is not about formal or informal. It is about how to speak properly. It ain’t easy but it is important.
I think the sparkle pony’s got a lame leg.
I would agree. I don’t like Obama, I like Romney even less than Obama, but I live in a hugely blue state, so I will probably vote 3rd party while voting for Dems down ticket and state wide.
They didn’t do balloons because it was supposed to be outside and they need to been blown up in advance.
I know this because I watched them blowing the balloons up for the R convention the prior weekend.
You’re so cute! You make me smile. “:_)~
Everything’s pretty good really.
Nice to see so many familiar names here – it’s been a while….
oh yeah – Hey Eli!!
Your vote, my vote won’t matter much. The electoral college selects the President. If that doesn’t go, the supremes will pick him.
Either Way, Kissinger wins.
Read John Cusack’s Interview of Law Professor Jonathan Turley About the Obama Administration’s War on the Constitution and journalist Russell Mokhiber’s Ten Reasons I’m Not With Barack Obama.
Then read/listen to A Great Silence is Spreading Over the Natural World.
And Chris Hedges’ Life Is Sacred (no, it’s not about abortion).
Then watch James Burke’s After the Warming. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oFjy5FORbo&list=PL16E277DDB6723CC0
Then we’ll talk.
They all popped during his speech, too much hot air, BFL…! ;-)
Overall, a successful convention. Worth a few points in the polls. We’ll see if he manages to move into a lead in NC.
Only another $billion in attack ads and it will all be over.
We’ll have at least a couple of months before the Rick Santorum 2016 campaign gets started.
Hey jayt!!
The TBTF banks vetoed the balloons.
Thanks Dearie. I like you, too. two. to.
I love live-blogs.
the mom isnt exceptionally tall,the girls will be quite tall
My one, still available channel is giving me Brooks. Praying for Dolan or where the hell is that remote?
The only thing I liked was that he said we are citizens.
How long has it been since any president said that?
Btw, how’s your Son’s trials and tribulations, of late, jayt…? ;-)
I’m not seeing him on MSNBC either. Dunno if they’re ignoring him or he’s just not up yet.
So you are voting 3rd party…. or not at all, I take it. At least you won’t feel guilty, I suppose. I think I would feel guilty if Romney won because I didn’t vote…. and then women have to go out and fight for our rights to reproductive liberation again.
me too!
“Will be”?
I have been a lurker of late myself.
This farce of a race has gotten to me.
Ya know, slavery was brought here 250 years before my families got here. And, I still want better for all. Ya know, my relatives, myself included have paid millions in taxes. And, we still want better for all. And, we’re willing and able to pay more in taxes. And, we still want better for all. My hope is that people at Firedoglake will judge people by the content of their ideas and not the color of their money! All during the clothes optional portion of the show, s’il vous plait. To have some of you people tell it, you’d question the motivation, on cue of course, of zombies. Clue: zombies’ sole motivation is to eat people just like capitalism and the free enterprise system. Clue: the ” free ” in the enterprise is the 1%ers buying your gov’t, time and again. While most of you ” jerked off a soda “. There are gov’t systems which offer a way forward for all. They are seen in the Scandinavian countries, for example. ” If you want it, here it is, come and get it, but you better hurry cause its’ going fast. You better hurry ’cause its’ going fast. ” Make Obama a whole hell of lot better. He certainly needs it.
It hurts to be a conscious human.
hahahhaha
thank the universe for dearest Eli!
If you had actually read the Cusack/Turley article, you would feel guilty about voting for Obama.
I’m sorry, but you couldn’t possibly not comprehend the point of not voting for Obama if you’d read it.
There is a method behind it.
Here’s a reason to vote Obama this cycle: if we don’t re-elect them, The Onion’s “Diamond” Joe Biden articles will disappear.
And I NEVER “not vote”.
bumped out of the army for inability to do PT. Stems from a mold reaction in his apartment in Ithaca. Lawsuit pending. But he just got a great job, is kicking ass and growing into adulthood finally.
His dad, on the other hand, merrily continues the world’s most prolonged adolescence. heh. How you, CTut?
good evening, counsellor
Thanks for the Badfinger reference.
I heard a claim to having made some mistakes. Was that wishful listening?
The Democrats got a lot of work done this week.
400 man
Some?
I understand and appreciate your point of view, and the Turley piece has made me do some serious thinking. However, the idea of not voting is just ‘new’ to me, and very, very uncomfortable. I did not vote for Obama in the primaries, and wanted my non-vote to reflect my dissatisfaction. In CA there were many like me. And, I’m not naive….. I know my vote doesn’t really matter to anyone but me.
im tired
He hitchiked to Charlotte, i hear
No one left to lie to, OG.
we’ll start fixing the mess when we get rid of the ivy’d up lying yuppie fuckgin DLC scum who suck up “leader” paychecks –
the fascists are NOT going to change, they’re fucking fascists. they MUST lie cuz they want us all to be serfs they can steal from, so, they’re good at lying. DUH? is it goddam confusing?
Arrayed against the lying thieving fascists are all these yuppie fuckers I voted FOR, for decades, and almost every part of every bit of what little I heard was a bunch of goddam lies from yuppie scum sell outs trying to keep their jobs.
IF you’re not helping someone like a Grayson, spend your time and money destroying your liver with 10 dollar 18 packs of beer or 80 dollar bottles of scotch, instead of helping sell out scum sell you out cuz the fascists are worse.
have fun -
rmm.
yo BFL. How’s tricks?
Democrats have failed women abysmally on abortion.
To actually be fighting over access to abortion over “legitimate rape” shows us that. There never should have been any exceptions for access to abortion. Once you go down that road, it’s the slippery slope to where we are now, where you can’t get an abortion in 92% of the counties in the US.
A woman’s body is her own, and not forced to be a life support machine. It’s only a matter of time before people will be required to give up body parts to others in need (to be kidney donors or bone marrow, or some other body part, perhaps vital, because the recipient’s life is more valuable to the country than yours).
women have to keep fighting these lying sons of bitches because the women who run the pro-choice orgs mainly come from the same upper middle class salons, or, aspire to life in those salons — and they won’t do what it takes to, POLITICALLY, tear the guts out of these lying sexist pigs.
Play nice to bullies, cuz you can afford to be noblerer gooderer smarterer and betterer means you get to f’king lose. period.
rmm.
I’ll overlook the sass and ask what YOU are doing about this mess? I’m still willing to learn and willing to work for better.
/afk
weed, what about weed?
Or taken universal healthcare, or — fill in the blanks –
Well put. Coincidentally Danish men have the largest testicles among all ethnic types.
About the convention that I didn’t watch, I don’t know what to think and won’t until I read Jon Walker’s erudite and literate abundance of superlative-degree modifiers tomorrow and find out what I think based on the most current polling surveys.
Amen, (as long as we can’t get the freaking Cardinal).
Yes, they did. They gathered up and firmed up the coalition. Probably not everyone, like the unemployed and many progressives. We will see if it was enough.
thank you; you have fuun as well
-bfl
This e-ghetto’s take on this convention is much different than the great majority of the progressive community.
same ol’ shit; good to see you around again
weed!!!
i don’t understand why the yankees are so fucked up
Today if you cant find weed,you have a real problem. Some people need to tie a porkchop around their neck to get the dog to play with them.
David Brooks is lamenting that Obama isn’t slamming down hard on the deficit.
It’s always six months in the future. He’s so upset about it.
The rich are worried they aren’t getting their money back.
The convention kissing the Catholic bishops’ ring, no doubt.
Take Biden’s speech in black-and-white newsreel and you would mistake it for footage from 80 years ago. Classic traditional convention speech form. No modern frills.
So being at the end of the thread makes us goats or something. Fun part is we can say manifold clam farts rolling spastic hemarage laughter spliced with natural hairballs. It’s all well and good if your not presently busy drooling.
The large testicles found on Danish men is because the Danish women always kneed the dough, so to speak. And, a good kneeding will do wonderbar for anyone’s testicles, trust me on this one. As long as they’re in the bag, already, you kneed not worry. And, nuts to anyone who says different.
Yes.
After he turned republican from the democrat he was originally. Specter is an opportunist. And let us never forget Anita Hill of the Clarence Thomas confirmation hearings. That Clarence Thomas, and Hatchet Job Specter. Silver Bullet Specter, too.
It was definitive.
How much has your active participation changed things? Or maybe I should ask what have you changed? Liberalism generally has been steadily losing ground for at least 40 years. To what end have you been active? Because I don’t see the results.