Mornin’, pups

Thanks, SD. Is there a particle of a chance that followers of the climate change deniers will finally realize that the information they’re being fed is all about ideology, and fact free?

Just read a review article on U.S. war in Syria.

Lest we forget, this was designed by the-surge-is-working-Petreaus, now doing his worst as head of CIA.

Not as long as they keep watching FauxNews.

The article on ECB misses the point. It’s not their refusing to lower rates on marginal countries that’s the problem.

The problem is ECB insisting on austerity.

As mentioned previous to Diner, seems like our military and intelligence establishment is calcified to the extent it can’t operate in current conditions.

Good morning, Dragonman and peeps!! I have been in an extended “discussion” about Chick-fil-A on Facebook. I finally decided I wasn’t getting anywhere and left it.

Cutting the cord might happen as it’s daily proved wrong in their homes, or am I overestimating the intelligence of the televangelized?

Netanyahu’s foreign policy is often (rightly) criticized but it also should be noted that he has done tremendous damage to Israeli society. Within pre-1967 Israel, he’s changed the country from a basically social democratic one akin in its policies to Western Europe to a dog-eat-dog capitalist country, with extremes of wealth and poverty almost reaching those of the U.S. His economic c views are akin to those of Reagan, Thatcher, and GW Bush. And he’s buds with Mitt.

“Empire makes you stupid.” (Scott Horton.)

Thanks for trying, anyway. Media had lots about lines around the block at ChickFilA booths, all right. Wonder how slow the staff had been instructed to be?

Yes. SASQ.

Link.

Amy Goodman has donned eyeglasses.

I noticed a pic of Hillary with them too.

Oh, this was a show of support for CFA, so they’d have an incentive to be quick and efficient. One of my televangelized friends brought up freedom of speech, and when I pointed out that freedom of speech applies to the government, she retorted that mayors like Rahm were going to deny permits. I in turn pointed out that two of them had already backed down and that they’d get their asses sued into next week if they tried it.

That led on another thread to why I’m not willing to discuss the issue of marriage equality with bigots. It was only going around in circles so I went to bed.

Sigh. Suffering makes them get mad, not rational, I suppose.

OMG. O has forgotten his voice lessons. Clip of rally speech on democracynow reveals his pitch is about an octave higher than it used to be and every sentence ends on an uppitch. tsk tsk

I am actually happy to see that. The stigma of wearing glasses seems to be dissipating.

Glad you didn’t lose more sleep. My experience has been that you’re proving to them that the devil has you in her grip.

CIA against NYPD CIA ops.

Gotta protect that bureaucratic turf.

Yeah, I have a low tolerance for scripture quoted at me, and references to sin. This wasn’t even mostly THAT, it was that there should be two sides to the debate that deserved airing, and why wasn’t I willing to discuss it? I said that some things weren’t up for discussion.

Then I went to bed and dreamed that I found Emerald Ash Borer holes in a wood picture frame on my bedroom wall. ARGH.

EDIT: somehow I didn’t find THAT odd at all.

First segment on democracynow: global arms trade deal.

That treaty is nothing more than allowing large countries to keep arms away from poor countries of the global south so that the poor countries can be more easily controlled.

U.S., of course, doesn’t even want to put any power into anyone’s hands except for its own.

“A federal court has given Chevron and Transocean 30 days to suspend all petroleum drilling and transportation operations in Brazil until investigations are completed into two oil spills off the coast of Rio de Janeiro.”

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2012/08/201281204140825120.html

Chevron has said that it underestimated the pressure in an underwater reservoir, causing crude oil to rush up a bore hole and eventually escape into the surrounding seabed about 370km off Rio de Janeiro’s coast.

The oil seeped from at least seven narrow fissures on the ocean floor, all within 50 metres of the wellhead. No oil reached Brazilian shores.

According to the petroleum agency, Chevron “was not able to correctly interpret the geology and local fluid dynamics” of the reservoir when the leak occurred. It blamed Chevron’s water-injection practices for the reservoir pressure.

Earlier this year, Brazilian authorities banned Chevron from any new drilling or water-injection activities at working wells in the country.

In April, a Brazilian prosecutor filed an $11bn lawsuit against Chevron and Switzerland-based Transocean for both the leak in November and the one in March, alleging they caused environmental damage.

Prosecutors also asked that Chevron be temporarily prohibited from sending any profits made in Brazil outside the country.

A month before that lawsuit, federal prosecutors filed criminal charges against 17 Chevron and Transocean executives accusing them of environmental crimes, of misleading the petroleum agency about safety plans and of not providing accurate information after the spill.

The charges carry a maximum penalty of 31 years in prison.

Brazil, protects Brazil better from “corps” than America protects Americans and the republic from same interests. Sad….

Guess shifting to the Freedoms is one way of avoiding the usual Sinners! screed, but of course requires tunnel vision about any Freedoms for anyone but your own (hate) group of choice.

The stigma of wearing glasses seems to be dissipating.

Thank the Quitter.

Also, ideology is more important than facts to some on that side.

Boxturtle (And money is more important than both)

Geez, Hartung on democracynow thinks O wants to reduce military spending.

Now democracynow’s onto ‘notorious’ Viktor Bout.

Reemphasizes my point that Bout is not allowed to do what USG and large powers are allowed to do bc he sells to poor countries.

Hartung asserts, as is usual for lefties, that Bout arms the ‘wrong’
side.

Don’t suppose the USG EVER does that. And in much larger magnitudes than Bout ever has.

One of the realtors at work is married to a guy who commutes between here and some place in IL or IN, I forget which, but their mantra is that everything would be better if we just lowered corp taxes. Pointing out factual evidence to the contrary is like pouring water on a duck’s back. She’s also incensed that some of her sales/property taxes go to funding college kids. I gave up. Might as well be talkin’ to a wall.

Speaking only for my local Cik, they overstaffed to the max and were cranking out chicken from open to close. One fellow said he was notified by the church mailing list.

I’m torn on this one. I’d like Cik to take a good solid punch from this, but I don’t like politicians telling Cik to stay away from our cities. I’ll decide for myself if I want to buy at Cik and if my conservative neighbor wants to get takeout from there every night, well, more power to him!

Boxturtle (Not a Cik customer before, not one now. My choice)

That led on another thread to why I’m not willing to discuss the issue of marriage equality with bigots

Never argue with a fool, people might not be able to tell the difference.

Boxturtle (I gave up on arguing that with those, too)

I’ve never been in a Chick-fil-A and it’s been so long since I’ve been to a KFC I can’t remember the last time I was there. Has to be close to 20 years.

“…allowing large countries to keep arms away from poor countries of the global south so that the poor countries can be more easily controlled.”

Yes Sir! Take a man’s ability to defend himself away, he becomes subject to the tyranny of another. More easily controlled, more easily exploited and more easily exterminated Like when Benito invaded Ethiopia?

http://askville.amazon.com/War-History-Italy-invade-Ethiopia-hope-gain/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=63787933

People often forget that until 1938 (and even beyond), Mussolini was seen by the rest of the world (although not Hitler) as the senior partner in the Axis alliance.

It wasn’t until 1940 that the weakness of the Italian state vis a vis Nazi Germany became clear and in 1940/1941, 30,000 British and Indian troops chased five times the same number of Italian soldiers out of Ethiopia and Eastern Africa, the Emperor Haile Selassie returning to his capital in May, 1941. Only the arrival of Rommel and the Afrika Korps stopped them losing Libya as well, although that of course was only temporary.

She’s also incensed that some of her sales/property taxes go to funding college kids. I gave up

Once they start griping about the money spent on education, I normally give up. If the person can’t see the value of education or the fact that we’re already starving it for money, nothing short of divine intervention can awaken them.

Boxturtle (“I like minimum wage robots” – Mgr at local Burger King)

Might be true but my experience of long lines is not of superabundance of customers, but superabundance of overtaxed abilities of servers. And fast food usually employs less than spectacularly able servers. But whatever.

No, stopped going to almost any fast food places after hearing about sanitation problems.

I’m not a fried chicken fan, but I do stop in to the local KFC for their cole slaw. They’ve got a really good recipe IMO.

Boxturtle (Should I be admitting I don’t care for Fried chicken to someone who’s first name is “southern”?)

I’ve been to KFC occasionally over the years, but not often in recent years. They have grilled chicken now. I have never been to CFA, partly because I don’t care for chicken white meat and that’s usually what’s in chicken sandwiches. But of course there are many other fast food places I’ve never been.

You just can’t get good fried chicken (or anything else for that matter) at a fast food place. KFC screwed theirs up after the founder left.

He was even quoted as saying something to the effect “I wouldn’t feed this slop to my hogs.”

Morning all. The latest scientific research in neuroscience has demonstrated the “minds” of conservatives are indeed “different.” It will not be surprising in the future to see “conservatism” classified as a form of mental/psychological disease.

It’s a little early to start drinking, but today is International IPA Day, a celebration of the most iconic–and most popular–style of microbrew, India pale ale.

If I need a fast-food stop on a trip, I always go to Wendy’s. They’re head and shoulders above the other burger places.

Good morning all. Thanks for the post and host SoDrag.

Bigotry is not a Freedom of Speech issue. Its just bigotry.

Oh… also, too; fuck Dan Cathy, his company, his chicken fucking sandwich, his family and his hatefull, irrational opinions.

If it’s chicken fried in a skillet after having being lightly coated with flour (my job as a kid, shake the chicken up in a paper bag with flour) I’m fine with that although I’ve liked baked and skinless better for a looooong time.

On edit: I have to admit the slaw was the best thing they had to offer.

Morning SD & Pupses:

Swarming Locusts.

But but but, it is only we who get to decide who the right side is and who the wrong side is.

Lefites prolly had a lot of really heated arguments over the war betw Ethiopia & Italy. As I recall Haile Selassie had a few faults of his own.

OK.

I’m outta here, now that the discussion is fast food.

In-N-Out.

Might be true but my experience of long lines is not of superabundance of customers, but superabundance of overtaxed abilities of servers

Agreed. Fast food in this area normally understaffs, sometimes WAY understaffs. And they don’t pay more if the employee can tie his own shoes or figure out not to fish in the deep fryer.

Cik expected this and was ready.

Boxturtle (Today, they’ll be back to understaffed)

I learned to fry chicken that way, too, as a kid, but now I marinate it (have a couple of good recipes) and grill it on my Weber charcoal grill.

“…nothing short of divine intervention can awaken them.”

Natural selection … The worst part is the “minimum wage robots,” might be better educated than the “walking stupid,” a term my brother coined, similar to the walking braindead.

We don’t have those here. I’ve never eaten at one. But I think when we were in San Diego in June, my daughter and her family made a point of going there because they’ve heard about it.

Still got really good cole slaw at KFC. I stop in sometimes just for that.

Boxturtle (Can’t recall the last time they sold me chicken)

I have to admit the slaw was the best thing they had to offer.

Gotta be the easiest thing in the world to make — to one’s own satisfaction.

The slaw seems to a a local thing with KFC. Some have really good slaw, others not so much.

Then why the F is KFC’s cole slaw ALWAYS so much better than mine?

Boxturtle (*frustration*)

I occasionally have stopped at one that has a buffet, and their green beans are great. Cooked the way my mom and aunts made them, with onion and bacon and cooked slowly for hours.

Im seriously non-fast food, but I have learned that McD’s of all places has very good coffee at Sr. prices….I’ll go outta my way to get it.;)

Hey BoxTurtle, did you ever get to Aladdin’s for lunch?

Try a different recipe.

California based, family owned, well managed. Growth intentionally kept reasonably slow so they don’t over-run the supply chain. Everything is fresh. Meat never frozen. Potatoes cut while you watch. They start their people at almost double minimum wage with benefits. The stores are always immaculate, well staffed with friendly motivated workers and the food is the best.

Almost never do fast food anymore. Boston Market once in a blue moon. Zap & Eat at home for dinner is the closest I get any more.

Your obvious strengths are counterbalanced by coleslaw deficiency syndrome.

Is there one in our Central TX neighborhood? I do not recall seeing one…

We’re not big fast foodies, but do take advantage of Mickey D’s dollar menu on long road trips.

Is it pretty good?

This year. Round Rock.

Thanks….then Austin is probably not far behind, I’d guess.

Off to do some things, thanks for good company.

Are they hiring?

You’re not the first person to tell me that McD’s has good coffee. Shocked me, the first time I heard it.

Wife says it’s because of their equiptment. It starts the water hotteer and uses all copper tubing so it keeps the water hotter.

Boxturtle (I’m told if you’re a serious coffee fiend, you should look at Bunn drip coffee makers)

The standard-issue hamburger and chicken filet sandwiches are a good value for a buck, as is the large diet Coke. We also carry big plastic cups which we fill up with Mickey D’s ice. Got to stay hydrated when it’s this hot.

YES! Been there once and I loved it. Will be going again soon.

Boxturtle (thanks for the tip!)

2 stores opened early this year in the DFW area. This year or next 2 in our area. The oulet mall in Round Rock, I think, will be the first and the second location has not, to my knowledge, been announced. I would assume south Austin.

I’ve tried 3-4, including my grandmothers. Maybe it’s just me, I’m not stirring it right.

Boxturtle (Wouldn’t be the first time the problem for me was technique)

The web sight has an employment section.

My wife tells me i have trouble with anything i can’t grill, BBQ, or stir fry.

Boxturtle (Hmm….BBQ cole slaw)

Shout Out to Planet Sub. Not necessarily fast food, but usually quick amd quite tasty.

I’ve had their chicken and it’s nothing to write home about. On the other hand, using your personal wealth to promote hate and discrimination probably merits at least an e-mail, methinks. Southern chicken hucksters are nothing new, however, and they almost all end up being self-serving chickenhawk peddlers in feathery drag. But no businessman ever went broke selling bad food to dimwits in the Red States. In fact, it’s now been developed into a fine art on Wall Street. I’d say they can all go pluck each other but that just encourages another problem. Ya know, more swimmers in the shallow end of the gene pool.

Off to swim in the great capitalist cesspool.

US KIA Afghanistan: 2,069

Afghan, Iraki, Yemeni and Pakistani casualties: estimates vary to over 2M

US MBS 2012: 26,536 and counting

No war but class war

Tired of Sleeping

Be good to yourselves, and all other living things

Namaste

Never. Give. Up.

Are you using cabbage?

Apparently Iowa and Missouri are the closest ones to me. Prolly not going there anytime soon. But menu looks good.

:-) Also carrot.

Boxturtle (And sometimes a little onion)

Regarding the piece on Latin America and changing attitudes on contraception. . .

Aside from the religious issues, I wonder if there might be demographic and economic changes taking over. In times past might too many kids have been an insurance policy for the older generation? And nowadays excess kids are considered more of a liability? Over time that trend would certainly trump Catholic doctrine, I think.

They start their people at almost double minimum wage with benefits.

This is no bullshit firepups. 5 years ago a buddy of mine started at In-N-Out in the East SF Bay at $15 an hour with 2 weeks paid vacation a year, 5 days sick leave, a company 401k with dollar for dollar match up to 10% of your annual wage, and health benefits 80% paid by the company.

In-N-Out jobs were coveted among kids my age.

Good morning folks. Thanks for the post and host SD.

Wish there was one here. I would be a customer just to support them, even though I rarely eat burgers. But no dice. California, Arizona, Nevada, Utah, and Texas. I looked really carefully, and didn’t find Indiana anywhere. LOL.

EDIT: next time I visit my sister in Castro Valley, I will have to ask to go there. So many good places to eat that we’d be unlikely to go to a fast food burger place if I didn’t ask to go.

Thanks for your contributions eCHAN, I follow your comments and recommended links, always, when I have the time.

Morning pups, light showers have me switching to interior tasks, breakfast and coffee.

Thanks SD

Vasectomy done badly?

Good plan :) There wasn’t one in Castro Valley when I left but there was one in Hayward on Mission.

When they opened in Fremont I ate there about once a month. To support the chain, and also because a double/double animal-style is the single best burger on the planet.

Watching archery. Is there any intuitive activity, involving muscle memory, where ‘think long, think wrong’ doesn’t apply? All of the archers end up shooting off-center when they hold for a while.

Yet eyeglasses can often be merely a prop among people of consequence. There’s some excess, especially in the era of contact lenses.

I’ll make a list of potential abusers, and start with Levin and Schumer. Can’t prove anything of course, but it’s fun. Certainly some are legitimate users.

My problem with burgers is that I like beef very rare, and not only do the burger places cook their meat much more than I like, but it’s risky to eat any ground beef rare.

I don’t even cook burgers that way at home, because I don’t know what’s happened when it is ground and packaged (pink slime, anyone?). I could probably have a local butcher grind an inexpensive piece of lean beef while I stand there, but I just usually eat steak when I eat beef at all (not often any more).

I always thought it was partly that it is difficult to have glasses on camera because the lighting would glare off the lenses. But it doesn’t seem to be a problem for Chris Hayes. Maybe there are lenses that don’t reflect glare and I’m just hopelessly behind the times.

I have frameless glasses and I like them and look OK in them, but I still prefer my contacts.

How about we revoke marriage equality AMONG bigots? That would get their attention.

You’d be hard pressed to find someone in that age group who doesn’t need corrective lenses of some sort. Probably bifocals or trifocals or multifocal contacts.

I’ve gotta get off this machine and get my day going. Have a good one, everyone. Supposed to get to 90º here today.

I’m with you on that. Boston’s Mayor Menino made a total fool of himself, but that’s not new.

Whatever he does nowadays has a short shelf life among his constituents with a short attention span. Lemmings.

Silliest comment of the day, imho. How about live and let live….

I don’t go to KFC, either. All breading and grease. Powdered mashed potato. Have to buy such for my elderly mom-in-law, who insists, while I hold my nose.

Sigh. Chick-fil-a. They’re all over here, and my ex liked them, but I don’t.
My fave cousin, the youngest, posted on the issue (basically saying she was fed up with the argument, but)specifically calling herself “a conservative Christian.”

I had such hopes for her. I blame her husband, in part, but don’t really know. They belong to what seems a fairly fundie church, instead of the Lutheran Church in which we were raised, and where she was married (same church I was baptized in, even). But then started going to this small country church. And now she sounds more and more conservative. It makes me sad.

Of course, probably she’s sad to see my horrible devil-inspired lefet-wing views show up on my facebook page. ; )

*cue picture of Patchy in front of the creche* How would Jesus govern?

Mornin pups.

Maybe so. . . Is one a day my quota?

I think eyeglasses worn by a pol on camera, photo, etc., always create a barrier between the pol and the audience whether intentional or not.

All I’m saying is there are reasons they are worn, and those reasons are not limited to vision alone. They are often just part of a contrived wardrobe, which may be more of a habit among public figures than the public at large.

Is a caricature brewing here? Maybe something like cigars and stovepipe hats among the uberwealthy in the 19th c. Not my intention.

“US President Barack Obama has signed a secret order allowing the CIA and other American agencies to support rebels seeking to overthrow the Assad regime, a US government source told Reuters.

Obama reportedly gave the order, known as an intelligence “finding”, earlier this year. The presidential finding also provides for US collaboration with a secret command center operated by Turkey and its allies.”

http://www.rt.com/news/us-support-syrian-rebels-obama-650/

The article notes a prior, similar action regarding Libya:

“Last year, Obama also signed an initial “finding” authorizing US support for Libyan rebels seeking to overthrow Muammar Gaddafi.”

You funny, ysp. And have a great memory!

I haz a question – oops, guess that’s Caturday language.
Anyway, has anyone here signed up with Credo mobile phone service? I’m facing the awful fact that my not-smart phone isn’t cutting it now that I’m a “professional” again, especially the fact of being on the road. I can get web access and SMS etc., but it’s slow and expensive. I’ve gone from spending maybe $10 a month for cell phone (pay as you go, no-contract)to sometimes $75-80, because everybody, especially the boss, texts all the time. And of course, no access to lovely apps that (supposedly) make life easier. Or maybe just more fun.

Anyhoo, studying options while I have a little down time (waiting for a judge’s decision to be received) and just not sure which way to go. I’ve accepted the harsh truth that I’ll have to do a contract, finally.

90! We’re supposed to reach “near 100.” Yesterday we got to 101, at least unofficially. I was dragging; too tired to go swimming! Too hot to walk across the parking lot – after work is the hottest part of the day here. Peak temp usually about 6:00 CDT, not noon. Couldn’t face it, so I begged off (friend I would’ve gone with is a competitive swimmer since childhood, and a native of the area. Never too hot for her to swim.)

I’m no help, I have an iPhone 4S. I’m not sure I can get Credo in my area, and I was soured on them because I signed one petition and began getting drowned in emails and snail mails. So I toss their phone mailers in the trash.

You might look into an iPhone, since you can get them from AT&T, Verizon and Sprint. I’m sure there are less expensive options, but I use mine for so much more than a telephone that it’s worth it to me. I actually use it for telephone calls much less than I use it for other things.

Thanks msmolly. I’m afraid I will have to go with an iPhone, but I’m looking at ANdroid smartphones first ’cause I’m not that happy with Apple. dunno yet.I’m looking for the non-calling options, too, but hopefully cheap as possible/reasonable. thanks for the input!

I admit that I looooved the picture of Patchy in front of the creche. It’s unforgettable.

I don’t know anything about cell phones generally, but I heartily recommend an iPhone for ease of use and features. Some here have mentioned issues with Apple’s corporate practices, though.

Forgive me, but who is Patchy?