Huzzah! Halloo halleigh!
A renowned constitutional scholar and learned legal mind has come around to — and even expanded on! — my view on the size of the Supreme Court. Since the very early days of the Rehnquist Chiefdom, Americans have been treated to whining from atop ThirdBranch about the intense workload, the crushing case count, and the difficulty making majorities of more than a margin of one. A nine-month work calendar from which you can be home for dinner every night after being driven to and from work and guarded around the clock by federal agents, where ambitious, whip-smart young legal minds actually perform your job duties and you have a highly respected lifetime gig? And where you needn’t ever actually talk while on duty?
Yeah, that’s onerous.
But, because of the late Chief William Rehnquist’s constant complaints about not having enough Justices to cover the workload, I have previously proposed expanding the Court in a bill named in his memory: The William Rehnquist Memorial Court Workload Relief Act. It might be hard for right-wing originalists in the Senate to vote against this, named as it is for one of Arizona’s original minority-vote-suppressors.
Nowhere in the Constitution is the size of our nation’s highest court specified. In fact, as Jonathan Turley documents, SCOTUS’s first session had only two justices in attendance. Luckily, no case pended. Six Justices — during and after the Civil War — was way wrong, and Turley makes an excellent argument that in today’s busy, appellate-court-filled world, nine is of equal paucity. Grow, little SCOTUS, grow and thrive!
But how many people should it take to come up with the final word on such questions? Our highest court is so small that the views of individual justices have a distorting and idiosyncratic effect on our laws. The deep respect for the Supreme Court as an institution often blinds us to its flaws, the greatest of which is that it is demonstrably too small. Nine members is one of the worst numbers you could pick — and it’s certainly not what the founders chose. The Constitution does not specify the number of justices, and the court’s size has fluctuated through the years. It’s time for it to change again.
He provides telling examples, both from America’s own appellate circuit and other Western democracies, that bolster his argument: SCOTUS is too wee:
Some proposed Supreme Court reforms seek to break justices’ hold by rotating these positions among federal judges, while others call for mandatory retirement dates. But I believe that many of the court’s problems come back to its dysfunctionally small size. This is something that countries with larger high courts manage to avoid: Germany (16 members), Japan (15), United Kingdom (12) and Israel (15). France uses 124 judges and deputy judges, while Spain has 74. These systems have structural differences, but they eliminate the concentration-of-power problem that we have in the United States.
Turley, proposing 19 Justices, acknowledges the “how do we get there?” question by proposing that each [future?] president be allowed two [additional?] appointments in the expansion regime. Even allowing for successive one-term presidents, and exempting the incumbent as would only be fair, President Number 49 would complete the expansion, in his or her term that ends in 2037. Two-termers, if still limited to only two expansion fills, would stretch implementation even longer. And would retirement replacement nominations count against any president’s expansion quota?
Let’s face it, if this is a crisis — and it is, as Turley eloquently explains — America needs it solved sooner.
And should Obama, if elected to a second term, be permitted to start this sequence, maybe in the Senate’s Lame-Duck session?
I propose, if we are to expand SCOTUS by ten members, that ten potential new members be nominated by both Senate parties equally and nominated in a balanced, one-and-all-confirmation process, stand together or all fail. This will enable some extreme representation on the far left and right of the spectrum and will, perhaps, preclude partisan sniping about the composition of the entire group. Ha-ha.
Perhaps the next president should be able to choose six choices from his own party and only be required to pick four from the opposite Senate party recommendations, if the opposite party is in the Senate minority. This preserves a semblance of Executive preference. Maybe the Federalist Society should get to suggest ten, and the Trial Lawyers should get to pick ten, with the President required to pick five from each list, with an up-or-down no-filibuster Senate vote.
Many ways come to mind in order to accomplish this needed expansion more rapidly than Turley suggests. What would you do to get SCOTUS to 19, soon? How would you fill ten new Justices chairs? And where would they all sit, or would your newly enlarged Court ever sit en banc except on cases where they chose to?
More fun for Late Night is the casting. Who would you suggest for the Court? What wacky personnel ideas do you imagine the Corporatist/Religious Right would come up with? Do you think the list of twenty presented to the next president should range very widely? How far would your imagined spectrum stretch? From former Congressman Alan Grayson to current Congressman Patrick McHenry? From Maxine Waters to Jeanne Schmidt? From Orly Taitz to Gloria Allred? From Michele Bachmann to Glenn Greenwald? Judge Judy? Judge Napolitano?
The floor is yours.





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Three little letters: FDR. Good luck, Professor. You’ll need it.
Three words: Justice. Richard. Cheney. He’ll work well with Scalia, because they’ve bonded over beers and dead animals; and he’ll get no question from Thomas, because Thomas doesn’t know how to ask questions.
teddy!
Heh – a bigger
SCROTUMSCOTUS is what all the dudes want!(ducks, runs…)
Great stuff for a Sunday night, Teddy! Thank you.
A history lesson, some snark and a challenge. Nicely done.
How about that guy from Oregon? The one with the bow tie and buttons? Earl Blumenauer?
Is that too lame a choice?
Don’t forget the frequent “hunting” trips to professional game ranches with the profiteered heart and sundry rich’n'infamous where boys with toys can pretend they are real hunters while they develop their next propaganda campaign.
Love Aaron Sorkin’s new HBO show. Will McEvoy and Co. Saw more news reporting than a month of the networks. Just in time, too. Stewart and Colbert need a vacation once in a while.
Evening, all. You can’t imagine how excited I was to read this in today’s WaPo Opinion section this morning. The last time I had any conversation with anyone about this idea, it was somebody in the policy part of the John Edwards campaign in 2007. I thought the idea probably died with Johnny’s presidential hopes.
Very nice to see someone with Turley’s stature talking about this, in The establishment rag no less. On T-minus one day for the health care announcement, too. Hope Turley gets some publicity for this tomorrow, making the cable gasbag rounds.
How are you all this evening?
Having read a lot about that episode in FDR’s term, the circumstances are entirely different today. That’s why any successful proposal will also have to have the appearance of “bipartisanship” to succeed with Village commentators.
But yeah, on the surface, it needs to be overcome.
Oh, wonderful. Not least because his subsequent death will free up his slot from being reserved by the rightwing.
We want young, vigorous, healthy liberals and radical lefty intellectuals on our side. If they decide to reward lengthy service to corporatism by choosing Olds, that’s their biz. But they won’t. (See Roberts and Alito, relative youth thereof.)
hello, dear lady!
Man – what doesn’t need to be overcome at the Village Gasbag level?
We’re all gonna have our fill of thinking tomorrow; why not start tonight?
(Liking your PUAC contributions, btw.)
Shoots, scores!
Now you need to apologize to me, in Cheney-hunting-trip protocol.
Let’s see, how does that go…
/begincheney – start-t-bagg
So sorry
Mr. WhittingtonHarry to thwap you in the face with my, erm, big SCOTUS/endcheney end-t-bagg
You know what I learned doesn’t depend on the SCOTUS decision tomorrow? Oregon’s health exchange, set to go 1.1.14. It’s based totally on state laws passed in 2001 and 2009. It depends not one little bit on the constitutionality of ACA or what the SCOTUS gasbags announce tomorrow. Heard from Oregon health officials and the lady who heads the Exchange: everything is moving forward, citizens need to get onboard the advisory councils, decisions are being made.
But all we need from DC are the usual waivers, and we can find our way around not getting them if we have to. I think being as far from DC as we are really invigorates Oregon public policy. We don’t need them, and we’d rather be left alone.
Of course, we can’t get married here, but that’s the donut around the Portland hole.
**slurp**
On a whim and a prayer,
we’re all making it through.
Thanks.
Interesting. How are those councils shaping up – or is it too soon to tell?
And I wonder about waivers. Who’s the OR AG? Our CO AG is Strothers – an asshole. Wouldn’t ask for a waiver for anything actual real people wanted.
Well, the good news is that the shameless partisanship and radicalism of the current court has made it as popular as crabs in a whorehouse, sparking such a debate in the first place. The bad news is that the right (and the “liberal” media who fellate them) don’t give a shit.
The chances of expanding the court are essentially nil, thanks in part to its own well-calculated decisions.
My 24 year old son is on his dad’s insurance. After tomorrow, that may go away. He actually has a job right now, but it’s only 30 hours a week, so no company health plan offered.
My other, younger son, has just applied to a local community college, even though he was accepted at Cal Poly. It’s just too expensive and with the college loans about to double in rates…well, that was part of the decision.
Just sharing how policies are affecting mine. :(
Other than that, we enjoyed the play.
Kelly, I don’t know why I want to share this with you, but it might work.
I pulled a 14 ” zucchini out of my garden tonight.
Hubba Hubba.
It looks like a club. Like you could knock someone over the head with it, or sumthin’.
:)
I don’t want to muck things up but I would also propose that of the 19 a number, say 6, be set aside for non-lawyers. It would give us more possibilities. That way Newt Gingrich could be on as well as Jeb Bush. That aside, I would propose Michelle Bachmann. She came to mind right away. Joe Biden since Thomas doesn’t talk and there’s all that time to fill and the Court needs another Catholic, of course. Ann Coulter. Nancy Grace. Actually, you could reduce the Court to just her because she knows everything. And, of course, me. Perks sound great and I can mouth “BULLSHIT” at the state of the union address. And my friend George becaause I owe him.
And to Teddy’s comment…. yes, demi, doin’ a great job at PUAC. I never did get to share my secret. Maybe now ’cause it’s later.
Ted Nugent. And that blonde chick on FOX News. That narrowed it down, I hope.
heh – well who DOESN’T like a champion giant fruit?
Honey, I think I’m going to have to find the most simple, easiest zucchini bread recipe. I could make one every couple of days and give them away.
Does anyone hate it when someone gives them a fresh zucchini bread?
PS – No one. It’s big, it’s beautiful, it’s Ripe!
Teddy!
I would love to see a bigger court, especially if it meant a couple more actual liberals (or at least people with some respect for the law).
While I was back east, the brother of my brother’s best friend from high school, Dwight Holton, former USAttorney who ‘made his bones’ on the ludicrous (so far) case against Mohamed Muhamed, lost the AG primary race to a remarkable woman who the law-and-order Democrats backing Dwight tried to smear as “easy on pot.” The election apparently became ALL about pot, and she won in a landslide. Now, apparently, since she’s unopposed in the general (no GOP running) the governor swore her in early (not sure where the previous/until last week, actually current AG went).
I love Oregon, its voters, and its culture. Try to smear a candidate as “soft on dope,” lose big time. Heh.
I expect she’ll fight the Obama crap tooth and nail, as needed, especially if she’s got state laws ten years old backing her up.
But the state bureaucrats said they really, really need citizen input. They ALL said, “We hear from Big Pharma, Big Insurance, and Big Health every single day. They email, they call, they drop in to ensure the eventual plan is what THEY want. We need some record to stand against them to say what YOU want. We know it’s hard — their lobbyists are paid to contact us every day. But you all MUST be heard. Please come to our meetings, please join our advisory groups. Please.”
Nighters.
Very suspicious, all these 30-hour-a-week jobs that have sprung up this century. Everyone I know has one. Funny, that.
You know, the activist right has been animated by “liberal judicial activism” my entire political life. I could see a perfect storm after Obama’s re-election (should such a thing come to pass) where the right, terrified of a dead Scalia or Thomas in the second term, decides to throw in to dilute Lie-brul power to, you know, take away their guns or make them buy healthcare or make them get gay-married.
Let’s face, unaccountability affects us all, right and left. Why not push against the single political institution that cannot command an army to defend itself?
And then, if we win, let’s double the size of the House and eliminate the Senate. Think about it: it could happen with the right combination of factors, including an Obama re-election terrifying all the gun owners.
Bob Dole, Liddy Dole, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, and need another disbarred ex-prez to balance clinton, so Richard Nixon
Just hysterical. ;(
Take good care yourself and your other half.
Especially since a lot of laws covering benefits only kick in at 35 hours a week.
I have a very funny pic of my Gramps holding such a thing from his own garden in his lap, wearing a coat and tie (Gramps, not the zuke). He has the funniest look on his face, just like Zoe Deschanel in the photo going around Facebook this weekend, with her own-grown huge zuke.
Hey Hag!! Didn’t see ya. Did you get the link to New Republic that mentioned us
zactly. and some of the 20 hr. jobs you have to be available when they want you. no regular, say, 3 days per week. that’s how the theme parks in The City Beautiful are, anyway. Bastards.
Walmart is fond of that system as well, along with paying their workers enough to qualify for food stamps.
Johnny Edwards is kinda betwixt and between lately.
Also: Anthony Weiner.
Is Andrew Breitbart a lawyer?
And a big YES to non-lawyers. We need a preacher or at least a man or woman or two of GOD. Ralph Reed? That Dollar fellah?
I did!
How embarrassing you two are! Letting down the blog with silly screen names!
jeebus, didn’t making fun of what people call themselves on the internet end in about 1996? I mean, no one makes fun of Lanny Davis or Meghan McCain for their screen names (which are, I think, Lanny Davis and Meghan McCain).
They specifically hire State welfare recipients here, they can avoid having to provide health coverage and even receive HI state subsidies for hiring them in the first place…! A great little racket, eh…?
Things could go horribly wrong with Turley’s idea, of course, and we could end up with ten Alito clones. They are out there tonight, wacking off in their master bathrooms to his op-ed.
Yes, that seems to be exactly when or why it happened.
I smell ALEC.
Yes, this whole new idea of “We’re gonna hire you part time, but you’re on-call ALWAYS. If you turn down two shifts, you’re fired.” is about as serf-y as it gets. No one can get other committed-hour employment somewhere else under that scenario!
And employers ask for it, believe me.
And those Frenchies and their 35 hour week think they’e got it good.
A grand old tradition among the predatory capitalists, dating back at least to the 1960s. I cannot remember the name right now, but there was a program to hire and train people on welfare with the government subsidizing their wages, with the implicit assumption that they would be hired on permanently when their training finished. Somehow it never worked out that way.
Aloha, Teddy, a thought-provoking post indeed…! How about some soon-to-be ex-Senators like Holy Joe, Orrin Hatch, Olympia Snowe, etc…? ;-)
My mind recoils.
And the stomach churns.
Isn’t Georgia currently forcing many Recipients to work for free, for ninety-day spells, which never turns into a job, with a new 90 day sucker replacing the old…!
Because new trainees were coming out of the program, ready to be hired after the previous graduates. Why pay full wage to those who’d finished training up, when you can hire new impressionable folks with the state paying their “wage?”
Breitbart was not a lawyer. he’s a go.
Well, they are all too old.
But they might have some odious staffers the right would like to nominate.
Zombies Represent!
Folks, the eeyes are getting all doubly visioned. Wish I could stay. love the topic(s). And Aloha Tut!!
Time for me to toddle off. I have to go back into the classroom to corrupt young minds tomorrow. Fortunately it is only 2 hours a day Mon-Thu and not until 11:30, but it does mean wearing long pants and shoes and socks again. Take care all.
Yep. Churn and burn the work force.
Pleasant dreams, BFL and Dr. D…!
**waves goodnight to all the sleepy leaving Firepups**
Yes. FDR tried it and failed. There is now ample evidence there is corruption in the court, view Mr Thomas. Let’s put Issa on him while the court is being reformed. In it’s current state, the Roberts court is irrelevant. It is utterly corrupted and deserves no recognition.
The Supreme Court has become a partisan body. I don’t think the framers of the Constiution had the intent of allowing 5 people in black robes overturning the will of the people. Obviously, reforms are needed. Congress has the right to regulate the court, and should act.
Congress should at the bare minimum force the Supreme Court to follow the federal judicial code of conduct. The Justices should not be permitted to attend political gatterings or to make speeches to political groups. The Supreme Court is the only court that a defendant or planiff has no recourse if a Justice refuses to recuse himself because of a conflict of interest. What should happen is that a special court composed of appellate justices be formed with the power to remove any justice from a case for cause on appeal from a litigant. Clearly, Justice Thomas had a clear conflict of interest in the health care case and should have been recused.
There’s probably other things that would be good ideas, but what I have proposed is a start.
I don’t think this will mean much to Obama, he is at best a centrist, and at the worst a reactionary president. I think ACA was designed to fail. That was the entire idea: we passed something you wanted, but look at these il Republicans and SCOTUS. What can I do? And even if Obama is allowed additional SC judges, you can be sure he will choose very conservative judges. He is not an agent of change, but is in the pockets of establishment.