In Democracy in America, Alexis de Tocqueville wrote:
Americans of all ages, all conditions, and all dispositions constantly form associations,
and cited that desire/need as one of our country’s most outstanding qualities.
Australian journalist Taki Oldham, our guest tonight, takes an undercover trip to Tea Parties across the country and into the heart of the Tea Party movement to uncover the astroturfing of America. With Billionaires’ Tea Party, Oldham shows how political messaging is designed and shaped by corporate-funded think tanks and propagandists.
What is the agenda behind Koch, Murdoch, and the petroleum industry? How and why are they turning Americans’ desire to form associations for people’s betterment against all Americans? Billionaires’ Tea Party examines the ties between the Tea Party, Citizens for Prosperity, Americans For Prosperity and other front groups whose chant
Free market
and desire to disembowel regulatory systems and government agencies (including, oddly enough, the CIA) are dressed up as an empowered grassroots movement. Oldham shows the influence of the Tea Party in the fight against health care reform and in the 2010 elections, as well as in the climate change struggle. Most telling is a panel on the “blogosphere,” in which the speaker suggests that people spend a few minutes a day on Amazon and film sites giving poor rating to books and films with a liberal slant, while voting up those with a conservative angle. He tells this audience that he hasn’t necessarily read the books or seen the films, he just goes by the author or what he’s heard, to give either one star to the progressive material or five stars to the conservative. Wow.
Sadly for them, overall the Tea Partiers come across as either slimy, nutty and/or ignorant. One man holds a sign complaining about
Barrack Obama
while a woman literally froths at the mouth as she screams to the camera that Obama is like Hitler and wants to get rid of everyone who is white:
The Filipinos, the Irish…anyone who is not black, and he’s not even half black himself.
Um what?
Fox News is pointed out to be a major force behind the Tea Party’s swell, and focuses on Glenn Beck. Since the making of Billionaire’s Tea Party–which features a segment where Beck eats a slice of watermelon while claiming that Obama’s energy policies are like the fruit, a thing green coating but with a big Red center–the race-baiting, rabble-rousing conspiracy-prone commentator has left Fox News and is struggling to maintain his pay-to-view Glenn Beck Television internet platform.
After the 2010 elections, the Tea Party’s influence has cooled down a bit, but the same propaganda methods used by Koch, et al. can still be turned up to affect this coming election–striking a warning bell that something is wrong, and then force-feeding people the notion of what that wrong is. Billionaires’ Tea Party shows us the dangers of astroturfing, the need to keep our eyes open and to carefully examine what we are being shoveled by self-interest groups, politicians, the media and even our friends and family, stressing the importance for critical thinking, rather than a herd mentality as we try to live up to the goodness de Tocqueville saw in this country’s desire to to form associations.
And with tomorrow being a primary Tuesday, please vote!



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Do the Koch Brothers really want to get rid of the CIA?
Taki, Welcome to the Lake. Thank you for a great film!
Hi, thanks for having me.
Hi Elliot,
The getting rid of the CIA was one of the many government bodies the Libertarian Party wanted to get rid of as part of its 1980 Presidential Campaign platform, during which David Koch was the vice-presidential candidate.
How long did it take to make this film?
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Why don’t they just buy the CIA instead of getting rid of it?
What made you decide to follow the Tea Party? Was it news stories, Fox News?
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Welcome to Firedoglake Movie Night, Taki, and thank you so very much for being here tonight!
I was looking to make something about fake grassroots groups (astroturfing) and had my eye on the USA. Then bu around June 2009 three things were happening that were really relevant to this: the opposition movements to healthcare and climate change legislation and the rise of the tea party movement. So by late August I was on a plane. Then I shot for a bit during 2009 up to October. I than came back to the US in late 2010 and did a bit more filming to cover the 2010 election stuff and fininshed the film by march lasy year. So about 1 1/2 yrs but not full time.
What effect do think the Tea Party will have on the 2012 election.
Hi Lisa,
Thanks
Hi Bev,
What got me interested in the Tea Party movement was the heavy involvement of Americans For Prosperity, which are heavily funded and directed by the Koch brothers, so I knew the Tea Party movement wasn’t as grassroots as it made itself out to be.
It’s funny,
when I began this nobody knew who the Kochs were. Then just when I was finishing the film Jane Mayer’s New Yorker article came out and now they are the poster boys for all that people hate about capitalism, green and manipulation of democracy
Why do you think that so many people who show up for the Tea Party rallies don’t get it that these are NOT self serving interests? I mean so many of them want their Social Security but then vote for people who want to privatize it; they need Medicare but oppose solutions that would provide health care for all; they want lower gas prices but feed the powerful energy chieftans? It is still a wonder to me. Your thoughts, Taki?
You mention the opposition to Health Care. How did you manage to find / interview Wendell Potter.
Eve,
Its a really interesting question. I think with many of the protesters then, and many conservatives still who support these drastic slash and burn policies despite it really only benefitting the wealth is that is comes down to world views. The general world view being sold that free markets = freedom and that progressives want to control lives with big government is a powerful message that overcomes specific policies
The Tea Party crowds are sooo white, how much does racism factor in?
For me this idea of people continuing to support extreme economic policies (as well as opposing things like healthcare and climate legislation) is what is still the most relevant part of my film. Sure the tea party rallies have stopped, but much of the messages have become internalised and even gone mainstream within the Republican party
I would be interested in knowing what income/educational brackets you found most of these tea party members belong to.
Elliott,
yes the Tea Party crowds were very white. Having a black president was without a doubt part of what made the Tea Party phenominon happen.
It seems that there is just no middle ground to meet upon anymore. What kind of drastic outcome is it going to take to wake them up?
I generally found people to span a pretty wide income/educational spectrum – this is also back up by polls. I think to assume people were all uneducated rednecks is very wrong. For a start its factually incorrect. But more importantly, one should not make blanket assumptions about opponents but seek to understand them if you are to counter such measures in the future.
I know this is about the Tea Party and the film but have you guys noticed how Americans For Prosperity (the Koch $ group who feature prominently in the film) have been spending big $ and driving a bus around Wisconsin. Plus they are ready to spend hundreds of millions on the general election as well.
Interesting. I remember there were some polls done early on that a large percentage were from a fairly high income group and educated as well. With college degrees. At least those that attended the rallies.
I haven’t been in the US for over a year now. But from what I can tell as a protest movement the Tea Party has pretty much petered out. That said a number of Tea Party type candidates are winning primaries against establishment Republicans – I’m curious how readers of this blog see the Tea Party right now
I attended several rallies in the los Angeles and was amazed at the wide range of races, ages, occupation.
I also found people at the rallies to be very polite and friendly. Their political views were vastly different from mine but as people they were kind and welcoming. The vibe was so different from something like a g20 protest of which I’ve been to a couple.
How well did you fit-in during the Panel / Training sessions? Did you get to see either of the Koch Brothers speak?
Hi Eve,
Regarding what kind of outcome it will take to wake people up. Thats the trillion dollar question. The financial collapse has done virtually nothing to re-regulate the finance sector in any meaningful way. The pro free market propaganda machine has been so successful I get the feeling it will take a fall closer to that of the great depression to change things, especially given how the politicians have largely been bought and paid for.
Where and how did the Kochs spend their money to build this movement? Who did they buy, what ads did they run? Was this cleverness or just throwing money at it?
The Koch brothers want to own us–and I wonder why ppl don’t realize that without regulation, things would be way worse.
Hi Bev,
Yes I filmed a conference of Americans For Prosperity where David Koch, who is the group’s chairman, spoke as well as have each of the 25 or so state chapters report to him. That event really woke me up to just how well the free market movement is coordinated around the country. Its not DC where the groups have necessarily been the most effective but in state houses around the country where they can exert a lot more pressure.
As for the internet training session I fitted in fine. I was lying as to why I was there, the truth would have had me kicked out. It was pretty nerve-racking at times, but like I said before, people were generally very welcoming. It is healthy to meet and understand those who oppose your views I think because people are never as bad as you make them out to be in your mind. We demonise and dehumanise opponents and then meet them and realise they have families etc just like us
Tea Partyers want their freedoms back. What specific freedoms do they say they want?
I think the PTB think that as well, which is why they are desperate to prevent it.
Interesting story from the Guardian.
Has there been any fallout from the convetnion organizers about you using footage? The internet training session was TERRIFYINGLY freaky.
Curious. What specific freedoms what that bee, I wonder.
The “freedoms” that want back are largely imagined. In the USA I found freedom is a very very powerful concept. As it patriotism. If you have successfully argue you are for freedom then you can convince a lot of people to follow you. In this case it was freedom from “big government” and “socialism” – but as discussed earlier the real benefits of these anti regulatory policies are usually the 1%
you sounded convincing! ;)
I want the freedom not to be exploited by self-serving money grubbing corporatists – but that’s why I’m NOT in the Tea Party
Hi Lisa,
No fallout as yet. I think groups learned after things like SuperSize Me (the anti McDonalds film) that sometimes kicking up a fuss only brings attention to something you want kept quiet, plus I have signed release forms giving me permission to film there (they are just rather vague as to why I am filming). Funny story, I actually based the release forms on those use by the makers of Borat. They got sued a bunch of times but never lost, so I was fairly protected. That said there was one time when I used a hidden camera to film an oil industry event that made me a little nervous.
Elliott, are you talking about when I had to get up and address the audience? That was rather surreal, I just glad I thought to have somebody filming me. Its one of the few comic moments in the film.
The Tea Psrty, had it not been astroturfed for a neo-con/neo-liberal (who are NOT liberals in progressive sense by a long shot!)agenda could have made some strides for trhe greater good
I am willing to bet it’s a lot more basic than that. That they would like things back the way they were in the 1950s where you could smoke where you wanted and kick out anyone you wanted and not hire anyone you wanted for any reason you wanted.
At least one tea party congressman alluded to that.
But without that extreme element getting involved and having the backing if fellow extremists Roger Ailes and Murdoch, would the movement have been able to gather any steam at all?
yes!
How did the Tea Baggers react to that story in the New York Times about Tea Baggers being less popular than Muslims and Atheists in America?
Do the Tea Baggers see their support for cuts in SS and Medicare the reason for their drop in popularity or do they think their is another reason why they are not popular?
Well it does bear to remember that people were there for a whole bunch of reasons. Just like an Occupy protest. In the Tea Party case many were motivated by the Dems winning, some had racial reasons (acknowledged or not), some were genuine free market fiscal conservatives and a huge portion were religious conservatives
No one is less popular than atheists. Atheists would have a hard time getting a candidate into office. I think the Tea Party members were just aching for a cause to attach themselves to the minute Obama won.
What does the Tea Party think about OWS and their tactics? What tactics are the Tea Baggers talking about using?
I would guess that part of the drop in popularity was the behaviour of the Tea Party faction in DC. The whole debt and budget debacles and generally not playing well with others probably teed a lot of people off
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/17/opinion/crashing-the-tea-party.html
Interesting –
The Tea Party Representatives say the debt ceiling and non-partisanship are the reasons they were elected.
That’s interesting. I wonder if Tea Party types have been using the Tea Party label in primaries or is it too toxic a label now?
That is astounding.
There are a whole lot of people who will vote for someone who is on a republican ticket simply because he is on the republican ticket. Even if they do not agree with most of what he says.
I know it’s like that here in Ohio. Staunch republican outside the cities.
Yes that is true, and they are being faithful to their promises. But in terms of the wider community I think most didn’t really pay much attention to specific policy platforms of Tea Party candidates and then woke up since, causing many causal supporters to become more unfavourable in their views of the movement. Lets be honest, having politicians whose self describe role is basically to kill government then it makes it pretty hard to get anything constructive done.
How does the Tea Party think all the people they elected into office are doing?
I understand, I live in Virginia.
The Tea Party did accomplish keeping the GOP far to the right. Still, they did end up with Romney. So their influence has waned quite a bit.
Senator Lugar Indiana lost a GOP Primary to an open Tea bagger recently but yes some are now playing down their Tea Party membership now.
I’m not sure. Do we have any Tea Party supporters out there by any chance?
Ah here ? No…not likely.
The patron saint of the Tea Party is Ronald Reagan.
Reagan cut taxes in his first year and raised them in the next 7. Reagan tripled the deficit ($1 trillion to $3 trillion.) The government got bigger under Reagan.
The Affordable Health Care Act closely resembles the Nixon plan.
In the good old days of the 50s, the top income tax rate was 91%.
Yeah, lets bring back those good old days.
That’s true, but let’s be honest, Romney’s selection had far more to do with the weakness of his opposition. Had someone like Christie been in the running we may have found a much more free market oriented candidate.
You say that but I find many like to troll progressive sites so you never know. This crowd all seems to be of the same persuasion though.
Will the Tea Party make an effort to get Mitt elected or will they stay home? I just can’t see them getting excited about Mitt.
There are people here at this blog who would like to hang the democrats and the president by their toes but for VASTLY different reasons than the tea party.
You make some very salient points. The radical free market element has created a totally false mythology in order to normalise their views. There is nothing traditionally Republican about the current Republican party, but the shift to the right has been going on for 30 years and bit by bit they have sold out to extreme economics that favour the rich and powerful.
Seconded :)
fair enough, I just meant regarding their positive/negative view of the Tea Parties
Does the Tea Party have a real or imagined idea what the real Left thinks? Or do thel all get their information from Fox News.
I think they will turn out. The hatred of Obama is pretty strong out there. They would much rather have a Mormon than a black christian president.
I think that the “extreme economics that favour the rich and powerful” is a side effect of the initial reasons which can be easily traced back to the civil rights acts.
The who that benefited as apposed to the what the benefits were.
I think it’s Fox News.
Next week we have PINK RIBBONS, INC., a look at the Susan B Komen Foundation and the finances of breast cancer charities. You can watch the trailer here.
Thank you for hosting again, Lisa.
Yes, I certainly found an extreme and irrational view of Obama among Tea Party supporters. They really think he is out to ruin America and the continued stink over Healthcare shows the anger still exists. The question then becomes will there be sufficient numbers of Democrats turning up given the level of disillusion.
Thanks Alex!
Taki, the Tea Party is CRAZED against Obama, and for really weird reasons.
Thanks guys.
Quickly, regarding the Fox as Tea Party info source, yes that and Limbaugh are huge, but I did read something the other day saying it wasn’t as much of an information ghetto as we on the left automatically assume, most of us on both sides still generally turn to neutral sources for our news.
Progressives and liberals feel betrayed, but the Tea Party thinks he’s Satan.
LOVED the Glenn Beck clip. MY jaw dropped. LIKE WHAT? On a news channel? I could see if there was a conservative comedy show, and even then that’s pushing it. But as NEWS COMMENTARY. Oy!
Sadly the conservatives think all media they don’t control, even the neutral, has a liberal bias.
That is somewhat a relief to hear. Taki, thanks for your underground investigation. It is fascinating.
Everyone thank you so much for being here. Tomorrow I go to Rhode Island for Netroots Nation! I’m getting there a day early for the LGBT pre-conference. Very thrilled!
That’s true, and remember all, the super rich can take our money, our future and our political system, but they can never take our freeeeeeeeeedom
Besides public safety, good roads, public education, clean water, sanitation, medicine, irrigation, what has the
Romansthe government ever done for us?(is that stuff socialism?)
Yes. Thanks Taki and Lisa. It has been very interesting.
Have a great week, and Taki thank you so much! Firepups, you can find Billionaires’ Tea Party at Iron Weed Films
Don’t bet on it. ;-)
safe travels!
Thank you Taki – best of luck on this and future porojects
Thanks all. By PS If you want to catch me up check facebook.com/billionairesteaparty or the Ironweed link above.
Later.
Great movie salon and thanks to everyone making it possible!
Did you know that a “Tea Party” is now showing up in Japan? The following reader is commenting on tonight’s video salon:
Japanese want to know where this “Tea Party” is coming from and who is behind it. They are especially concerned with what we Americans view as Koch brothers-like decisions being imposed upon Japan as raising the limit for how radioactive something can be before requiring special disposal by a factor of 80 (from “Japan’s Latest Nuclear Crisis: Getting Rid of the Radioactive Debris,” The Atlantic, by Michael McAteer, June 4 2012). Such decisions appear to be dictated via PM Noda’s office and are opposite the will of the Japanese people about how to deal with the new collective reality presented by Fukushima.