The Princes of the Church are feeling their oats. Hide the women, children, and livestock.

Good morning, pups. Today we’ve got Brooks and Krugman. In “The Cagey Phase” Bobo has a question. He says we’ve seen different facets of Obama throughout his presidency. As this election cycle unfolds, how will he demonstrate his commitment to the country? Whatta tool. Prof. Krugman, in “Natural Born Drillers,” says Republicans say gas would be cheap and jobs plentiful if we stopped protecting the environment and gave energy companies free rein. They’re wrong. Well, that’s not surprising. Republicans are generally wrong about everything.

Here they are.

The coffee, tea and hot chocolate are ready, and I’ve got lemon and poppy seed muffins. So I’m absolutely sure that the Republicans and The Princes of the Church will step up to the plate and pay for the health care, food, clothing and education expenses for all the unwanted and unplanned children they’re hell-bent on women having, right? RIGHT??? Have a great Friday.

In Arizona, you’ll be able to pretend you’re back in the ’50s by playing “Interrogate the Schoolmarm”. You get to grill your female employees on their personal habits and marriage prospects.

But put away your Brylcreem and get out the bear grease. It’s not the 1950s, it’s the 1850s.

In your guts you know they’re nuts. Anyone running in any election against any Republican who says anything else between now and November is a Shrum and should be sued for gross incompetence.

Either that or, like in my IL-08 with Tammy and Raja, they’re closet Republicans themselves.

It confuses my why the Catholics would pick this fight now. This is really hurting their GOP supporters, forcing them out of the woodwork and into public. Even the worst of the house Tea party comes from a district with about 50% women voters.

If you wanna screw over a large segment of society, ya gotta stay behind the curtains. Like how they did the foreclosure settlement.

Boxturtle (I’m amazed that female hookers will still deal with the GOP)

He’ll demonstrate his committment to getting re-elected, if it works for the country too he’ll live with it. I’m not sure he’s ever made a decision without looking at polling.

Boxturtle (And compared to it’s REAL cost, gas is very cheap)

I’m moving to Az. I’m gonna find me a loose woman to take dictation on my lap while wearing a miniskirt.

Boxturtle (But being Progressive, I’ll certainly support contraceptive coverage for her!)

Men wearing dresses know that kids aren’t really a woman’s to have, just to be responsible for the at least 18 years to get them to functional – the church is there to make sure women don’t want any. And more important, don’t get any.

Arrogance excludes prudence. Maybe they’re relying on intervention from god?

OLD WHITE MEN (who do not vaginas of their own) want to control everything and everyone that does have a vagina , is not old, can be screwed and is any color they can subjugate (or try to). Priests and bishops are old white men..and so are senators and congressmen and some republican women who have been brainwashed to believe they must do and support whatever old white men tell them. I am an old white man and I am ashamed of my kind. 2050 is shaping up to be 1950, 1850, 1750, etc. It seems that every mid-century, men set out to prove that they have never left the cave. They should all be forced to join AA (arrogant ass^&%$s).

Not that I disagree with your premise but 2050 is still 38 years off. Kinda early to be comparing this century to the last several, doncha think?

Because what really denotes freedom more than having a decision about your life made by someone else, especially your boss?

Considering your boss decides when and where you work, not to mention how much you get paid… this is one of the dumbest statements to come out of FDL in quite some time. And that’s saying something.

Religious freedom for the right to tell you what you believe and practice! it’s sacred. oh, that’s misspelled, try scared.

I think his premise holds water, as long as we change those 50s to 12s or 14s. WWI, Gilded Age, works for me.

If so, God is going to have to move quickly. The attempt to make the issue religious freedom has failed epically, the debate is focused on health. The GOP double down on religious freedom just isn’t resonating.

Based on my reading of the Bible, the last thing the GOPers want is Divine Intervention. ‘Cause they won’t like it much.

Boxturtle (I’m thinking wall st = Moneylenders Temple)

That Blessed are the poor stuff got clipped out of the wingnut canon. Cursing fig trees is more the stuff of their worship.

“Ubiquitous and inexpensive” is an odd angle for the bishops to take. Have they suddenly stumbled upon something new in the liturgy?

Rather, they’re straying outside the bounds of their teachings with that. It should make no difference whatsoever how cheap, expensive, available or unavailable birth control might be. Those are irrelevant to the long standing Catholic position on this, no?

It seems as if now they’re using a new “Hail, Mary” out of frustration that their arguments to date haven’t been convincing.

Good Morning, Ruth
Actually, I think they might have missed the meaning of the story of the fig tree too. It’s thought by some that the fig tree was the temple, and it wasn’t doing its job. Those who were worried about the new kid in town.

You know, I am really supporting the Repugs on these issues. Their purity tests and oaths are so good for election time. They make it crystal clear which party they belong to and there will be no confusion for the people.

They have made clear distinctions for even the least forward looking person to decide whom they support.

You must not know many old white men: they need lots of warm up time before they get to full ascerbic strength. And it was all imagistic,, metaphoric language, anyway. I was not shooting for techincal or chronological accuracy: I was shooting for old white men. You should be grateful for small favors and stop impuning the messenger.

Too cute, guess they mean condoms. Medical care is for the rich.

Meanwhile Krugman is a disingenuous weasel.
Maybe he’d like to tell us why refineries are closing. Or, why any new jobs not funded by tax dollars is bad. How about telling us why if we had more domestic oil Iran would be less of a factor?
What I don’t get is why the left is always in favor of less, rather than more, except for taxation?

Yep, there was much about taking down the old white men of the whited sepulchre variety, that the right haven’t ever been comfortable with. but I think cursing fig trees makes them feel good.

Stand by your Man.

That’s all you can do. You can’t sleep or have sex with him cause birth control is out of the question, and if you do have sex without protection you may get cervical cancer from him.

BE SAFE, Ladies! Just say NO!

Rush really messed up the Luntz on this one. No wonder they’re pulverizing him by pulling all the ads.

I’m wondering if the vaunted Republican machine is, at its essence, nothing more than the wisdom of having bought all the refs. The Mighty Wurlitzer can’t score baskets for you. They can only help you so much if you can’t even manage to dribble the ball.

Have they suddenly stumbled upon something new in the liturgy?

I think they’re realizing their arguments aren’t getting any traction at all, even in their churchs. So they’re trying to convince the rest of us to pass laws to keep their congregations in line!

Boxturtle (This coming from a chruch that ought to be collectively indicted for Obstruction)

Shoot Fire and douse it with Kerosene!

Which jobs are being created without government support?

Okay. That’s my new scapegoat.
Damned fig tree, anyway.
Yeah. That felt good.

Religious freedom for the right to tell you what you believe and practice! it’s sacred. oh, that’s misspelled, try scared.

Excuse me. You’re completely free to believe and practice whatever you want. Why would you lie about such a thing?

Jobs being created are legislative lobbyists to keep winger noses in the trough.

Good thing we are going to be controlled by Catholic law instead of Sharia Law. snark

Heck, we might end up under Mormon Law! Better start searching outlets for magic underwear.

I keep hearingthat Rush is going to recover many of those who “dropped” his show and he has some new ones coming in as the right circles the wagons to protect him.

But nobody wants to be the first advertiser to check and see if it’s safe yet.

Boxturtle (There are still sharks in the water and they don’t know when the sharks will leave)

Anyway, most of my figs get snapped up by the birds the minute they start to ripen. Maybe throw a few curses their way.

It shows your long standing commitment to gentle Southern hospitality and charm that you would serve Bobo on a plate. Ill mannered Yankees’ll dish ‘em out in the bag every time.

Get ready for ancestral worship in perpetuity. And uncontrolled birth.

I’m sure you are aware of the thought that if they come to take away one gun, er birth control choice, they will eventually take them all, right?

Have you seen this yet?

Who said it, Santorium or Grand Ayatollah?

Boxturtle (Amusing and scary at the same time)

Boids. Damn, filthy, lice infected Boids.

Well, one thing is for sure. We can save a hell of a bunch of gas and lives if we go back to riding the Taranasaurus.

Guess who’s ready to start bringing in the sheaves.

Thankee kindly. That’ll show them to keep off my figgies.

No, I had not seen that one. Funny. They both said the same using somewhat different wording!

Plus getting back to stone tablets.

Good!

We won’t have to worry about transparency and my vote will last longer than two seconds.

Cuts down on the verbiage by much.

BAwHAHAHAHAHA! *snort* *giggle*

WESTBORO BAPTIST CHURCH?!?! *SPLORF*

Barring ads from Satan himself (which i do not rule out), this is the most perfect match possible.

Boxturtle (God Hates Fags? Bullcrap. God doesn’t hate ANYONE!)

Thank the Heavens! I could really go for less verbiage.

Maybe we can redo that Amazon tribe of women warriors too!

I could be wrong, but the vast majority of employment in the USA is at-will. And if most people who comment here ever had a boss who believed — truly believed — that they were entitled to pound their door down at any time and roar, “Rise and shine, wage-slave. Don’t you get uppity and sassy with me, either. I’ll repo your Fixodent and Catapres, take out my whip, and then hosswhup you all the way to there!”, I’m confident 99% of them would have a nice colorful retort — with or without a Mossberg 590 fully loaded with alternating shells of bird shot and 00-buck pointed at ‘em …

Which jobs are being created without government support?

The ones in North Dakota for instance.

I’m sure you are aware of the thought that if they come to take away one gun, er birth control choice, they will eventually take them all, right?

Catholics are trying to take away your gun? I think not. Nor are they taking your right to birth control. They just don’t want to pay for it. Like the left.

Yes, employment is at-will, but apparently the maxim “if you don’t like your job, get another one” is more than the left can handle.

You sure about that, pilgrim?

~ Prairie. North Dakota.

Not only do the pot bellied men feel they have the right t impose their religion on others, they have crafted a system which, protects health insurance corporation’s business models by leveraging a coercive tax penalty levied against the individual for not having health insurance????????????????????????????????

What’s next, a poll tax for all Americans, to vote!

Since most health insurers are state based this reminds me of slavery, servitude to corporations who buy law, enable under the color of unconstitutional law. Then the assholes use procedural horse shit, much like “”Dred Scott vs Sanford, to avoid the the issue entirely, the unconstitutional nature of a law which places individuals in servitude to corporation.

To bad the government cannot control slaveowners corporations as they rape an pillage a society, extracting liberty while getting rich in the process. They have take the constitution and turned it on its head, protecting corporations. Now they want to deny woman choice, after shoving this form of corporate servitude, shoved down the throats of America?

Rancid garbage….

Rather than addressing the billions of dollars America will waste just going to work, the actions of government are to enslave a nation to the corporate interest.

Protect them corporate slave owners, from Energy to Finance to Health Insurance. Jefferson is vomiting knowing full well America’s revolution was against a “CORPORATION,” which had a King’s Army to back the corporate interests? Life and Liberty subject to the dictates of corporate, who buy law and the servitude of Americans, then use tax code as a gun to leverage compliance, after deeming a failure to have health insurance, a crime? “The AMERICAN TAX ON EXISTENCE!”

A tax on Life? Call it servitude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No wonder why the US Congress and state legislatures have great approval ratings.

http://www.pollingreport.com/CongJob.htm
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/archive/mood_of_america_archive/congressional_performance/5_say_congress_doing_good_or_excellent_job

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/congressional_performance

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 10% of Likely U.S. Voters now rate Congress’ performance as good or excellent.

http://web.missouri.edu/~milyoj/files/Legislative%20Approval%20LSQ%200710.pdf

FIGURE 1. LEGISLATIVE APPROVAL ACROSS THE STATES, 2008
Note: Legislative approval data are from the 2008 Cooperative Congressional Election Survey. State professionalism scores are from
Squire and Hamm (2005).

“. . .They just don’t want to pay for it.”
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No doubt most everyone here would concur with that as just an observation (i.e., rather not on the merits).

There are a lot of ways people end up paying indirectly for things they don’t like, and might even consider morally repugnant.

To stretch the point, we all pay various taxes used to construct interstate highways. Those highways carry traffic counting toward a rationale to construct a certain route, where to place an interchange, etc. The presence of a PP clinic somewhere (or any other activity) would have some impact on that rationale. Then you and I paid toward that infrastructure, and helped enable people do things we might not agree with.

Analogies usually come up short; however, this time I don’t see a lot of difference between (1) paying a tax which pays to build a road which someone will share to access the clinic, and (2) paying for an insurance policy for a coverage I certainly won’t use but someone else might.

There isn’t a practical way to wall off fungible dollars in any case.

Talk about dumb…

Just my thoughts – the whole of the “we don’t want to pay for it” schema is divorced from clear and rational thinking. Women work. Women pay their taxes. Their health care benefits are part of their employment contract. Women receive employment benefits in lieu of cash salary. Women pay for their health insurance premiums. Women pay their deductibles. Women pay their co-pays.

Men work. Men pay their taxes. Their health care benefits are part of their employment contract. Men receive employment benefits in lieu of cash salary. men pay for their health insurance premiums. Men pay their deductibles. Men pay their co-pays.

No one is getting some kind of a free ride here, contrary to the above mentioned argument.

What is really exposed here, is a subtle motivation, a subtler belief, if you will, that lies at the heart of misogyny. The belief I am pointing to is the belief that the care and cost necessary to keep women healthy, productive, and as contributing members of the culture at large is less important than the same costs our culture engenders to keep men healthy, productive and as contributing members of the culture. Simply put, the underlying value of this line of reasoning, is that men deserve such efforts, but women… not so much.

In view of the demographics of our culture, as well as the vast importance the role of a woman has served, through out history, in all cultures this is naught but a value held, and never questioned. Indeed, many don’t even recognize they hold it.

As Mr. Spock was wont to say, “That is illogical, Captain”.

Ignore shooter242-He/she/it is a useful idiot for the 1%.

It’s a two way street. If employers don’t want to provide full health care coverage to ALL of their employees(instead of only providing it to the ones with penises) they are welcome to get rid of that portion of their compensation package.

We have laws in this country against discrimination and laws that protect everyone’s right to practice their belief system, not just the landed gentry who happen to offer employment.

If they don’t like that then THEY can leave for Saudi where they have a theocracy.

I don’t particularly think he comes off as useful. You get the same kind of responses from a parrot.

I don’t know how many times he’s been told that employers can drop their health care coverage and allow their employees to participate in one of the exchanges.

shooter is useful as a target. As has been pointed out before lol.

Tsk, tsk! Your heart’s in the right place, but did I just read your endorsement for female prostate exams and male pap smears?

Shorter shooter: How dare the serf-slaves DEMAND that they have control over their own belief sets and reproductive choices! Only Massah should get to decide when you get to birthin’ them babies.

;-) Not all animals are equal on the farm.