Ken Griffin, who runs the hedge fund Citadel, tells Melissa Harris of the Chicago Tribune that the rich have too little influence in politics. He seems utterly unable to see the contradictions in his opinions, and utterly unwilling to follow out their implications.
Griffin says he has been making substantial political contributions in the last three years “because I’m terrified that we as a country are headed in the wrong direction.” He believes in economic freedom, which he defines as the ability to pursue one’s dreams, “whether it’s starting a business or who they choose to work for.” The founding fathers came here for freedom. He doesn’t explain the link between the freedom to start a business and freedom from religious prosecution.
Harris asks Griffin what he has asked the politicians to do. He identifies one thing, not to allow a casino in Chicago. Casinos, he explains, are not like financial markets, which are “…the force by which we move capital to the best and highest use.” He knows that financial markets moved trillions of dollars into building houses and condos when there weren’t enough financially able buyers. But that was a breakdown of discipline, not a fundamental problem that should be corrected by regulation.
On the other hand, he is very concerned that the government backed a solar panel business, Solyndra, and lost money, maybe $500 million. Government support for an alternative energy source is corrupt, something he learned from his acquaintance with Charles Koch. Instead, the government should create incentives to encourage private enterprise to take up that profit making venture.
Griffin doesn’t explain the difference between government incentives and direct support for a business. Perhaps he means that some other business didn’t get the chance to fail doing the same thing. Or perhaps he actually believes that government support like construction of industrial parks and roads, or training, is corrupt and destroys economic freedom. Or perhaps he means that tax breaks for business investment, including Industrial Revenue Bonds and accelerated depreciation and carried interest tax breaks for hedge fund managers destroy economic freedom and are corrupt. In any event, getting politicians to create incentives isn’t corrupt, and it won’t rob us of economic freedom, and some will fail and that’s OK because it wasn’t the government.
He complains that the State of Illinois is paying corporations like Sears to stay in Illinois. That is the fault of the politicians, he says, not the corporations that demand the money, whose only duty is to their shareholders. That isn’t corrupt either, and it doesn’t rob us of our economic freedom.
Harris says that many people believe that the financial business harmed millions of innocent people. Griffin admits that “[e]very time there’s been a bubble in asset prices, people get hurt.” True, some more than others, as the most recent data show.
Griffin blames Fannie and Freddie for inflating the housing bubble. That is the standard right-wing explanation. Of course, it ignores the actual data, assembled by Paul Krugman in a post titled “Things Everyone In Chicago Knows”. Well, Professor, not everyone in Chicago knows actual facts.
Griffin thinks that all of his political contributions should be publicly disclosed, but with trepidation, because he might be Targeted, treated badly for standing up for his beliefs, in the incipient class war waged by politicians. He doesn’t realize that class war only works if most people loathe those in his tiny class.
Harris concludes the interview by asking Griffin how he would explain to people on the street that he and others in the financial sector are not “evil”, and that they do not act solely on the basis of self-interest. Griffin answers
A. (45 second pause.) I think if you look at the realm we’re discussing, which is the political realm, I think it would be impossible to find an action by any politician intended to specifically favor either my firm or myself. That’s not the driver of my involvement.
Griffin doesn’t acknowledge the major benefits he received from financial deregulation. He doesn’t recognize that throughout the interview, he has stated that his involvement in politics is directed at insuring that he and his business are not regulated. He is worried about environment pollution, but not about financial pollution.
It’s people like this who are giving great gouts of money to right-wing politicians. Our only hope is that their results will be worse than those we progressives have been getting for our time, effort and money.





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Bring back tar & feathers…
Another great piece, Masaccio. As an aside, I looked up “Shameless Pimp” in the dictionary and found Ken Griffin’s photo there with the reference “See Clueless Asshole.”
Maybe they should run America after all they got a bank bailout from the Federal Government but we got our SS and Medicare cut.
If we want to make America a Welfare Nation who better to turn too than Corporate America.
The Fuckers got a bank bailout but we got our SS and Medicare cut to pay for it!
I would of course prefer that we tax the rich more and use the money to create jobs but then again I like to work.
Living proof that a total Dumb-Fuck can still succeed in this country. Dumber than the proverbial Bag ‘O Hammers.
Nothing says stupid quite so well as a rich man whining.
Chris Hedges will be on NPR bobedwardsradio shortly (sun 2p dst) talking about his book, “the world as it is.” i heard the tag end yesterday and catching it in full today.
Talking his book. What’s good for him is what’s good.
Financial Markets are so great at moving capital to the best and highest use that we had a bank bailout, a Savings and Loan bailout before that and at some point in the future the Credit Default Swap market should also fail.
Very nicely stated. Dig it.
The French had a different take on the need for bloodsuckers in society.
Is Edwards’ show available on the Magic Interweb Machine?
I love the line “great gouts of money.” America is suffering from political gout.
S&L crisis, Mexican Peso crisis, SE Asia crisis, Long Term Capital Mgmt., 2008 crash – The financial services industry would not exist without community bailouts. In fact, any salary earned on Wall Street should be considered a fraudulent transfer given the community bailout required every 20 months.
Casinos are great for communities, just look at Reno, Atlantic City & Las Vegas – nice.
On the other hand, he is very concerned that the government backed a solar panel business, Solyndra, and lost money, maybe $500 million. Government support for an alternative energy source is corrupt, something he learned from his acquaintance with Charles Koch.
China has no problem supporting green power and unlike the Obama approach of failed loans they also buy product from the companies they loan money too which is why their approach works and ours fails.
You need customers as well as loans to make a business work.
You also need protection from low cost competition to create new industry.
I bet Charles Koch and Friends will soon start screaming for government help for their fracking Natural gas
To get a better idea of why Koch-funded organizations are so desperate to force fracking on local communities, Republic Report has compiled the ways in which Koch Industries has monetized the fracking business:
http://www.republicreport.org/2012/koch-fracking/
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2012/mar/11/us-oil-prices/
http://newyork.sierraclub.org/SA/Vol41/wounded.htm
My bold assume that with natural gas at $2.27 and $4 the break even point that the Koch brothers will cream tax break pretty soon.
Yes of course there are the very smart money men like Griffin who argue that “the government” should stop meddling with free-market capitalism and also keep their hands off his social security. And then there are the Not-Wall-Streeter wealthy folks who get taxpayer donations, I mean contracts, by other means and they live in 4 of the 5 richest counties in the Greatest Nation Evah- http://realestate.yahoo.com/promo/richest-counties-in-america.html
- and probably very happy that the Occupy movement is focusing on part of our problem and is not planning on occupying the Falls Church town square.
We do have campaign finance reform that along with Citizens United give the results that those who matter want so stop checking the $1 donation on your tax return they already have more than enough of your money.
Talk about a perfect poster child of what is wrong with America, this is the guy!
Does he feel there’s a risk that democracy might break out?
A hedge fund produces exactly nothing. This guy is a fucking parasite.
It was Al Capone who described the stock exchange as a casino.
Eat the rich.
Exactly my thoughts. Where is Madame Defarge when we so desperately need her?
Chris reminds me of the character in Dr. Zhivago.. Strelnikov. I can picture him in that armored train with the machine guns sticking out the windows. What did he say to Zhivago? The personal life was dead in Russia? Chris has been saying something similar..the middle class life in America is dead.
Book Salon up with Nicholas Wapshott’s Keynes Hayek: The Clash that Defined Modern Economics hosted by Paul Davidson
Why the hate speech? This guy has done nothing to either of you.
Tsk.
The only solution I see to his problems is to repeal corporation laws that grant limited liability to the decision makers. That would get the government out of business.
Oh wait, we have to end the commercial court system. Make them set up their own courts for business-to-business torts and claims. Would free up quite a bit of the civil courts.
There are other ways to get government out of business. Well for the hedge fund business, just eliminate requirements for honesty in the securities markets. Oh snap, that already happened.
Um…because he’s stupid enough to rationalize the destruction of the economy by a bunch of half-bright gangsters who (by the way) have paid exactly zero price for it?
And just so we’re clear on the subject, you have no fucking idea what this guy (or guys like him) have done to me – or to anyone else here, for that matter. If all you want to do is make mindless and deliberately provocative remarks, then why don’t you do us all a favor and go away?
Feel free to come back when you’ve prepared to act like a grown up. Until that time, however, you’re not welcome here. Period.
Oh please. He hasn’t done anything to you either. If you want to blame anyone for the continued freedom of the banksters, look to Obama.
Ken Griffin is probably a global warming denier, too, what with the gang, er, crowd he hobnobs and runs with.
Per Antarctic ice core samples collected in the 1990s, the last Great Ice Age over 10,000 years ago began with a heat spike, a sharp rise in atmospheric temperatures by a few degrees. Ocean and landmass temperatures rose, ice melted. But what surprised scientists at the time was that it only took 30 years between the heat spike and the beginning of the Ice Age.
30 years? Not 100 years, not 500 years, not thousands of years, but a mere 30 years in which the earth adjusted to a heat spike (caused by whatever), going in the completely opposite direction (for some similarly unknown reason), entering into an Ice Age lasting several thousand years, with the northern-most ice sheet extending far south into lower latitudes in the Northern hemisphere.
Either the international team of scientists studying Antarctic ice core samples in the 1990s got their analysis of these ice core samples wrong or they got it right. I saw this reported in the late 1990s on a 1-hour-long science program on PBS (Nova), or on The Learning Channel or Discovery, thus I consider this scientific finding reputable and accurate (no matter what caused the heat spike or subsequent abrupt reversal into an Ice Age).
So, “Houston, we have a problem,” with the entire earth being Apollo 13. And in this analogy, many of the world’s wealthiest and almost all Republicans in the U.S. are on “Apollo 13″ telling “Houston” everything’s find, that there is no problem, that even if humans “engineered” this looming catastrophe on “Apollo 13,” humans can’t do anything about it, so best to do nothing. Of course, the world’s wealthiest and the Republicans all have children and grand-children on this “Apollo 13″ ride, so their fate is sealed along with everyone else, whether of the global warming denier crowd or those shouting “Houston, we have a problem!!!”.
On a positive note, since we humans are all carbon-based then someday in the far future we’ll all be part of the oil that someone taps into for their energy needs. IOW, the earth will recycle all of us one way or another.
Problem is a lot of these “rich white guys” are just fucking crooks.
I really got no bones against rich white guys but I’m getting damned tired of watching all these crooks.
The biggest economic disaster EVER caused by fraud and corruption just like the S&L crisis and NOBODY goes to jail.
A complete lie to take our country to war and NOBODY goes to jail.
Ah, a quick student. Go to the head of the class.