On CBS Face the Nation, yesterday, Rick Santorum left host Bob Schieffer repeatedly incredulous as Santorum gave us what increasingly sounds like his own personal version of Catholic dogma. He’s been hinting that mainline religion in America — read, Protestants — have led America astray, that while President Obama may claim to be a Christian, his governing “theology” was not based on the Bible, a line that draws applause from his equally dogmatic followers.
The reporting should now focus on Santorum’s thinly veiled religious intolerance, but his remarks about Obama’s non-biblical beliefs were referring to environmental regulation and to some concept about the relationship between man and the earth that he imagines other people have.
Santorum commented in Ohio Saturday that the president believes in “some phony ideal, some phony theology. Oh, not a theology based on the Bible, a different theology.” [applause]
Asked to clarify his statements on CBS News’ “Face the Nation” Sunday, Santorum said that he was referring not to the president’s faith but to environmentalism.
“Well, I was talking about the radical environmentalists,” he told Schieffer. “That’s what I was talking about: Energy, this idea that man is here to serve the Earth, as opposed to husband its resources and be good stewards of the Earth. And I think that is a phony ideal. I don’t believe that that’s what we’re here to do – that man is here to use the resources and use them wisely, to care for the Earth, to be a steward of the Earth, but we’re not here to serve the Earth.
“The Earth is not the objective,” Santorum said. “Man is the objective. I think a lot of radical environmentalists have it upside-down.”
You see, Santorum’s dogma insists that man is at the center, and the earth is God’s gift to man, there to be exploited in our role as proper “stewards” of God’s bountiful gift. Mr Obama, Saint Rick claims, insists on putting the earth at the center while man is subservient. Never mind that there’s no evidence Mr. Obama has ever believed, said or suggested anything of the kind. The GOP has invented a grossly distorted caricature of Mr. Obama, because the real one does not suit, and the one that repeatedly frustrates environmentalists is inconceivable to them.
In Santorum’s remarks, we see the basis of the corporate conservative attack on the EPA, most environmental regulation and any acknowledgment that global climate change is happening, that man is responsible, or that it might be a threat to humans.
If God put the earth here for our needs, and we are righteous, it’s inconceivable in Santorum’s philosophy that man could have abused his stewardship to a degree that abuse has become a threat to humans. Obama and “environmentalists” have it backwards, he insists.
Santorum’s religious dogma is frightening enough, as views like his have, when taken to their logical ends, justified hateful intolerance, discrimination, inquisitions, torture, religious wars, and murderous crusades — and of course Santorum has already told us that the righteous Crusaders were unfairly maligned. The First Amendment was added to protect us from zealots like Rick Santorum. But his anti-environmental dogma may prove to be just as dangerous for humans.
It’s hard to understand how a politician in the 21st Century could claim that corporations should be left alone in their extraction and exploitation of nature’s bounty, because it’s all in furtherance of man’s God-directed stewardship. There are millions of stories of environmental pollution and destruction that would teach genuine stewards otherwise and which would more than justify EPA’s efforts to at least limit toxic emissions that kill and sicken millions, even if you ignore the removal of whole mountains, the destruction of streams and wetlands and the obliteration of species
Did he not notice something incongruous to his beliefs when the BP oil disaster threatened much of the Gulf of Mexico, shutting down hundreds of miles of coasts and thousands of square miles to fishing? Did he not see the clumps of oil on the beaches and beneath the sands, or the hundreds of miles of sickening oil slicks, or the reports of massive underwater plumes spreading across the Gulf? Were there no dead sea creatures littering the beaches? And yet, that is but one of hundreds of such oil spills and thousands of other man-made environmental catastrophes from recent years.
That isn’t stewardship. It’s plundering and abuse on a level that would warrant even Santorum’s God finding another steward. And Rick Santorum is just another right wing idiot.



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Exactly. Btw, Christian Scriptures are not about fear and hate.
Thank you for this post Scarecrow.
Earth is our home and like any home, it has upkeep requirements. It seems in Santorumland, he would have us taking the sledge hammer to the walls of that home and shooting holes in the roof.
Heh. One religion clashes with another.
Both complete with liturgy, clergy, and faith required.
As for Obama, yes, he is an environmental congregationalist. The EPA, killing Keystone, and green industry cronyism are badges of his devotion.
There’s one small difference: unlike a house with walls and a roof, the earth can just sweep us aside and repair itself.
False choice. Santorum may believe in dominionism, but this issue is not about dominionism or non-dominionism–it is about sustainability of the human race. Rick, sorry to say, you can’t go home again.
Outstanding, scarecrow. So that’s what the mainline Protestants have departed from. Amazing. Wonder what the papal encyclicals say about the environment. Pope Ricky seems to have invented his own Roman Catholic theology and gotten a couple of bishops to bow in his direction purely on the contraception issue.
This in regard to the environment I believe began with Limbaugh in the 90s and Santorum is taking it and running. It really is taking the John Birch Society, McCarthy, Ronald Reagan political strategy of framing every issue (as they did with the Communists) as the godly against the godless. Science is a Godless religion. Environmentalism is a Godless religion. As far as I can recall of American and much of Western History, it works every time.
“The GOP has invented a grossly distorted caricature of Mr. Obama…”
Yes, they have…and he’s gone right along with it.
A skit:
GOP: “Obama’s a socialist!”
Obama: “I sure am! That’s why I’ve been licking conservative ass for three years and change, and trying to find their inner-”bipartisan” self like I was looking for the Holy Grail…excuse the religious allusion…instead of reminding the voters that I inherited a 55 gallon drum full of festering economic and international shit. Of course, if I were doing that reminding, especially, when I had those huge congressional numbers, then the voters might expect me to DO something about my inheritance. What’s that? You use the phrase “MID-TERMS” along with that little advice about muscle tissue: “Use it or lose it!”???
How dare you!!!
Haven’t you been watching the republican clown-car as it rolls across amurka. THAT sordid circus is what you should be paying attention to; not the fact that it has “made in the Obama White House” all over it in pulsating day-glo letters.”
And so it goes, our little soap opera, with the democratic strategy of:
“No matter HOW much Barack Obama screws the pooch, the republicans are scarier, and you must all keep that in mind as you vote.”
Dude, have you read the Old Testiment. If a book of stories that violent, hate and fear filled were to be newly published today, the Xtians would try to have it banned.
Well, it works almost all the time. Remember Liddy Dole’s disasterous “Godless!” campaign stategy?
Which is all the more reason we need to care for out home and not let it fall part around us
This from the stupidest person in congress. And he’s got quite a bit of competition for that title.
A dilemma manufactured by the 1%.
Uh, he did specify the “Christian Scriptures”, i.e., the New Testament component of the bible.
Although it is a bit funny (if not for the sad effect) how many supposed Christians go directly to Leviticus and pick and choose the parts they want to use to buttress the hate they espouse.
Beware of false-propheteering political candidates….
Interesting that Santorum doesn’t consider the Catholic Chuch, with all of it’s power and wealth, to be outside the “mainline”.
Maybe those folks who choose to demonstrate their piety by handing large North American pit vipers are right:
Maybe the Catholic religion IS a cult. :o)
I went to an Episcopalian service yesterday. Courtesy of being with friends. I am not religious. I was surprised how much OT there was in the service and how the minister used it in her sermon. I admit, though she tried to explain what it meant, it remained a mystery to me. Something about Elijah.
Is it just me, or am I hearing an echo of his attitudes about women’s reproductive choices?
Yep. And willingly sustained by…Barack Obama.
We have this rare political confluence of a party, the GOP, which WAS responsible for most of the things that were wrong with the country, and which had been hammered in the 2008 elections, having rehab done on it by the very person who had led the hammering…only to now have him pimping the preposterous meme that somehow they stole his mojo, and have used the power which he so graciously returned to them, to thwart his courageous instincts for real reform…for which situation, he obviously merits another 4 year mulligan, for more of the same.
I’m not catholic, but I will defend them a very little bit here.
Santorum is not simply catholic. It is quite likely that Santorum is a member of Opus Dei (Neither he, nor they will confirm or deny it. When questioned by a catholic magazine, Santorum tap danced the issue. Additionally, despite all of Santorum’s rants about home schooling, Santorum sent his sons to an Opus Dei high school.)
Despite Dan Brown’s portrayal of the group, it is an EXTREME, RADICAL, sect of the catholic church.
I truly wish Firedog, or some other reputable group would do more research into this.
And if he didn’t mean to challenge Obama’s Christianity? Why did Sandstorm use “theology”? Why not “philosophy”? Dog whistle much?
Scarecrow you say: “If God put the earth here for our needs, and we are righteous, it’s inconceivable in Santorum’s philosophy that man could have abused his stewardship to a degree that abuse has become a threat to humans.”
The problem with this line of argument is that if it were the case that the abuse of the environment was the fundamental threat to humanity that some argue, then it would seem incongruous to say the least that in a period of continued industrialization and globalization that the living indicators of the vast bulk of mankind continues to improve, including: life expectancy,
quality of life years, child and infant mortality, and maternal mortality.
The implication of the continued upward trend of human health and well being is that, however important the environmental impact of mankind is, that it’s more than compensated by economic development, the improvement of health care, the expansion of basic hygiene and potable water, etc. In other words, that between improving the environment and improving the economic condition and health care of the masses, we should typically choose the later.
Opus Dei has its tentacles into many in government, every branch, it’s alleged. And in the media? Is that why no investigative reporting?
I’ll see yer OD and raise ye a Mormon? Will 2012 be the battle of the cults, right back to the 12th Century?
It doesn’t work that way. Improvements in the economic condition and health care of the masses depend on the environment, especially in the long term.
The scriptures set out for mainline readings usually include 2 from the NT and 2 from the OT….Many Christian churches, however, act as if the OT was tossed aside when the New came into being….Wrong. Both are stories of the “people of God”; much OT is quoted/relied on in the New. The New represents a contining of the story. Edit: Much of the richness of social justice/the prophets is from the Old.
Reminds me of the joke about the guy stranded on the roof of his house during a flood. A rowboat comes by to rescue him, but he refuses, saying, “God will take care of me.” He says the same thing when a helicopter swoops down to fetch him.
The man drowns, and finds himself at the gates of Heaven. God tells him, “You idiot. Who did you think sent out the rowboat and the helicopter?”
The MSM and PTB can amp up the volume on this ignorant moron all they want. They can pump up the successes he’s been given thanks to the unbelievably large number of religious half-wits in this country. They can scare me with his inane gibberish. And all the Obot apologists can point their fingers, quake in horror, and cry “purist!” until they’re blue in the face.
I will not be manipulated into voting for the corporate puppet, war-mongering, sell-out, currently sitting presididn’t, no matter how warped the plot in the kabuki theater gets.
Did you read the book thread from yesterday? Very much part of the conversation there.
Interesting “earth is our home” analogy.
Problem is, if the earth has been around 4.5B years, and humans about 200K, then we’ve lived in our house about 4 seconds. And individually, each of us resides about 1/1000th of a second in geological house time.
Hardly worth worrying about doing any upkeep.
I’ll have to go and review it. Thanks.
That is a false dicotomy. You can’t take the Christian bible, which includes both Testiments and say one is Christian and one is not. Are you trying to legitimize Knox’s comment by saying that the old tesiment is not in any way Christian theology. Every time I was forced to go to church as a youth, they read from the old testiment. More Christian hypocracy.
Didn’t know that. Thanks.
The fact that this huckster is taken seriously is an indictment on the intelligence of large swaths of the U.S. public.
You are welcome….
Hotdog; that sure looks like the plan doesn’t it?
To field a team of dumbshit bigots and religio/corporate neo-fascists so repugnant that they make Obama look like he’s channelling Abraham Lincoln and FDR, combined. And, it looks like it’s working…for now, but there’s a long time until the voting, and Israel is sounding more and more like they’ve got O. by the short-hair, relative to “doing” Iran. If that happens, I think the fallout from it will be so bad that I don’t see how he can win re-election.
As is being noted by more and more people:
The republicans are in a political sweet-spot that won’t whoa; either way, they win.
Some Christian groups in the first few centuries after Jesus’ crucifixion did try to ban the Old Testament, some even condemning it is the work of a false deceiver.
If the nation’s at war (as opposed to a kinetic, military, bullshit excuse for more oil hegemony operation), won’t that give the unitary executive, constitution-sacking, pentagon tool of a Nobel Peace Prize winner an excuse to forego the election charade altogether?
But Paul, who was certainly the earlier NT writer, clearly did not. The 2 (NT & OT) go together. The ones who lose me are the writers that claim the Psalms were talking about Jesus…
I guess I was lucky in the church my folks picked to raise me in. While it recognized, and taught many of the stories of the Old Testament, it also pointed out that stories of the New Testament did bring a change in moving away from the Vengeful God to one that was more understanding and forgiving and loving and that was the example we should follow.
A short remedial bible class for Rick Santorum, focused on that famous passage beloved by Tim Tebow and Christian Sign Wavers everywhere: John 3:16.
It does not begin “For God so loved those people who have the right religious beliefs . . .”
It does not begin “For God so loved homo sapiens . . .”
It does not begin “For God so loved planet Earth and all its inhabitants . . .”
No, this passage begins “For God so loved the κοσμος . . .” The kosmos, Rick — the whole universe, in all its vastness and beauty.
John’s gospel paints a vivid picture, showing that God’s compassion is for the whole of creation, and people are but a part of that whole. Separating people from the creation or elevating them over it is foreign to the message of the Bible.
I think that nearly all Christians today are Pauline Christians in one way or another.
Exactly what Jesus taught.
Funny you should mention that. I heard a crazy guy just last week, literally standing on a box and using a megaphone thing, quoting the Psalms in an effort to convince young adults that Jesus taught fear and hate.
The “Wise Use” tenet is integral to the Dominionist philosophy. I believe we (FDL)have had a Book Salon with Stephanie Hendricks, who is the author of “Divine Destruction: Dominion Theology and American Environmental Policy (Melville Manifestos)”, tells us that “Some of the Fundamentalist Christians interpret the Bible to mean that, when God says you have to subdue the earth, it means you have to use up the earth in order for Christ to return.”
This line of thinking, has, of course, been readily co-opted and enthusiastically astroturfed by the environmentally destructive industries in support of a far more nefarious and exploitative ideal. According to Source Watch, which is linked above: “The so-called “Wise Use” movement is an industry-front and anti-environmentalist organization founded by Ron Arnold in the late 1980s, primarily dealing with timber and mining issues in the western US.” and that; “”Wise Use groups are often funded by timber, mining, and chemical companies. In return, they claim, loudly, that the well-documented hole in the ozone layer doesn’t exist, that carcinogenic chemicals in the air and water don’t harm anyone, and that trees won’t grow properly unless forests are clear-cut, with government subsidies.”
Wow, at least I had not heard that part of the Jesus teachings….My point was about the fact that the Psalms were about 6oo years before Jesus; he was not even a gleam in his mother’s eye….Thanks….
Not even close to what I said.
What I did say was that there were some early Christian groups who condemned the Old Testament. That’s a fact.
Jesus was very clear about how his teachings relate to those found in the Law, i.e. Hebrew Scriptures.
What the F**K!
Here is a comment from a non-scholar, but in my teaching of Passover, it says that man should be cognizant of despoliation of the earth. It talks about being stewards of the earth.
He seems to say, believe in pagan rituals!
As for education, my public education – grade, high school, university and post graduate degrees taught me how to think and create. I had a great firm and we created a good product used all over the globe. What is he talking about in his home schooling is a flash back to the one school house seen in “House on the Prairie”. HUH???
He didn’t say so explicitly, but he did quote the Psalms in an effort to legitimize his claims (which amounted to Christianity being about fear of damnation and opposition to/hate for sinners).
If God put the earth here for our needs, and we are righteous, it’s inconceivable in Santorum’s philosophy that man could have abused his stewardship to a degree that abuse has become a threat to humans.
It’s curious that Santorum seems to excuse mankind of abuse and failure in this one area alone. He condemns people for their “abuse” of their sexuality; indulging their supposedly wrongful attraction for same sex partners; for the theologically incorrect world-view informing their political policies. For Santorum, every other human being in the world is wrong about the way they live except the few who agree with him.
So why would he think it impossible that human beings incorrect “stewardship” of the earth has caused a threat?
Y’all like to get together and talk about how stupid the Republicans are. In the case of Santorum you are exactly right. He is genuinely stupid. I’m pretty sure he could drive a spike with his forehead.
If he wants to attack Obama’s Christianity he only needs to remind us that Obama is a liar, a torturer and a murderer. Or he could attack Obama’s patriotism by pointing out that Obama is a traitor to the Constitution.
I think Mr. Fries, hopefully that is the way you spell the big donors name for Rick Santorum.
I hope he can put a big Bayer Aspirin between his cheeks in his ass, knowing his money is going down the wrong way!
Very interesting discussion. But the more I hear from Santorum the more I believe he is just a plain kook. Nothin more, nothing less.
Or he could be mindful that we are not a Theocracy country and know that line of discussion is completely out of place. That’s a fairly clear and easy conclusion….He probably may be really stupid and quite evil, for all I know, so things may not register.
As John Stuart Mill, who was a British Member of Parliment, a philosopher, economist, in the early to mid 1800′s, once observed; “Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative.”
Certainly working now.
Look at all the comments. He has us talking religion and Christianity, not the issue of the fragility of the environment. Liberals lose as long as they are defensive about religion, trying to prove they are just as Godly as the GOP and opposed to godless whatever.
I wish you would put together a Letter from Clergy/petition to include corrected and accurate statements to replace the errors from S. Could be thoughtful and courteous, but publicize where he errs.
Same ol’ spectacle. Jeebus be comin to save us any day now!
The Host of shams is watching.
Oh, and the heathens better not blaspheme, no!
Do you think your sarcasm adds to the conversation? I guess you do ;(
You avoid the obvious. We know religion is a scam. The best excuse I’ve heard is “Mankind needs stories so we’re going to give them the divine ones.”
Too much guidance and not enough truth telling. But hell, even the prophets can’t get their stories straight. The whole religious architecture is a framework for exploitation.
The sad thing is that his followers will believe that Barry is a raving tree-hugger who’s out to subjugate man to nature. Barry, the president who allowed BP to get away with literally destroying the Gulf of Mexico off the coast of America, the entire ecosystem, endangering the lives of the millions of people who live there, the still unborn kids who will swim in carcinogenic waters and eat contaminated fish.
Yeah, Obama’s a real environmentalist, just like he’s a real man of peace and guardian of our civil liberties.
In response to mattcarmody:
That’s what you call constructing the center. Easy to do with a nation of compradors.
I am far and away most shocked by this lunatic and how he even gets any light shown on his insanity. I have come to believe of late that we are more in danger from our own ‘Talibanistic’ candidates than we have to concern ourselves with the false fear of Sharia law being implemented within our borders.
By continuing to give any credence to this candidate, i am convinced that the electorate will become more and more convinced of his ‘truthiness’. This guy is completely serious in his beliefs. Implementation of such would easily roll our society back decades without improving anything. He has readily scapegoated women (feminists, I tell you. FEMINiSTS!!!!!!) and gays and now even some Christians as the foundation of America’s demise. It honestly has all the smackings of 1930s Germany. And we all know how that turned out.
He is a spectacle and distraction. Both fears serve the treasonous above him; they blame you for divisiveness, as many others have pointed out.
On the other hand, the supremacists must have scapegoats for national decline and the treasonous will steer them advantageously.
Don’t be shocked; it’s embarrassing.
You hope. I would prefer to be swept out now if in time to actually make repair. Just the thought of Santorum’s view makes me throw up.
For Santorums communist relatives this view must totally be revolting to them. Seems Ricky not only ate a magic mushroom, he has evidently hogged the whole bowl. He is nothing more than a controlling lunatic that demands a subservient wife and home schools his children to control their thoughts. Just an extreme case of bad wiring in the brain.
Santorum’s narrow, regressive understanding of stewardship is anything but grounded in respect and awe of the earth that would be consistent with a compassionate religious outlook.
Rather it is the 19th century robber barron approach to religion as justifying the rapacious plunder of natural resources.
I doubt it’s just the robber barons who fund dominionists. The national dominionists have a lot in common.
Maybe this is not New Israel after all?
Santorum is echoing a set of ideas expressed by Bryan Fischer, Tony Perkins and other fundy preachers in the pay of oil interests. Take a look at this video “Resisting the Green Dragon” which has had wide circulation in evangelical churches. This is the audience that hears Rick’s dog whistle loud and clear. For them, all environmentalism is satanic. The video even has high praise for the use of DDT, believe it or not. The producer is the Cornwall Alliance, an outfit that was linked to oil interests by a Think Progress piece in 2010.
Selling souls, eh?
Bingo!
Religion is not a scam. Why don’t you tell us which religious views you disagree with, starting with the golden rule and the corporal works of mercy. Once you think about it, you realize that religion is the source of many values we all share. That is not a scam.
That isn’t to say that scumballs don’t use it to scam people. People can and do pervert any good thing.
I don’t think we’re so far gone that they can cancel an election.
Subverting one; cheating in one…yes.
Just saying: “No, we’re not even gonna have the charade.” I don’t think that’s possible…yet?
Santorum is just another side show. The main event will be Jeb.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/top-gop-senator-to-abc-news-if-romney-loses-michigan-he-will-publicly-call-for-jeb-bush/
Read it and weep.
Oh, and yes Bush is still a toxic name but that didn’t stop the Bushes from stealing 2004 and they can easily do it again in 2012. Because of our easily riggable electoral system, it only takes THREE SWING STATES and POTUS is his. And we already know they know how to do it.
Obama’s reply should be that America, being run by a secular government, uses science to guide its government policy. That science tells us we are dependent upon and a product of the earth’s environment. That the environment is the life support system on which human’s depend and that our industrial activities of air and water pollution are destroying our life support system.
Unfortunately, Obama will take the bait and get into some kind holier than thou Christian contest with Santorum and completely miss the chance to focus on what people know to be true and to remind us that US is a secular and science based nation not to ruled by one particular religious sect on its beliefs.
“Santorum is just another side show. The main event will be Jeb.”
Totally agree. Neither Romney nor Santorum will win the GOP nomination and Jeb Bush will be called on to save GOP. Jeb Bush will likely defeat Obama as Obama has alienated his 2008 base while Bush will unite the GOP corporate and religious bases of the GOP.
Jeb will NOT legitimately win office. The election will be stolen, as is the Bush tradition.
This is an old saw: The Christians are frightened of our magic and are now attempting to put a price on our heads. Santorum will say anything to stay in the news but he is a paid fool and this whole thing is a well-crafted diversion. Given this opposition (even if Jeb or Palin jump in) Obama has already been re-elected. The GOP puppet masters have already re-elected him. Why? Hmmmmm, wonder if it is his real lack of opposition to a pro-nuke, pro-ANWR drilling, pro-war nation run by plutocrats.
This isn’t an encyclical Tarheel, but a quote from the Vatican in 2008: Vatican Bishop, Gianfranco Girotti (2008)
“You offend God not only by stealing, blaspheming or coveting your neighbor’s wife, but also by ruining the environment.”
The R’s don’t know nuttin’ about nuttin’.
What Christians or Christian denominations are confronting the political framing of Godly US vs the “ungodly theologies” of Marxism, environmentalism, Islam etc.?
As long as there are no Christian voices renouncing the notions of supremacy of virtue of Christians above all others this framing will continue to work, I think, with the majority of voters.
The fact that Santorum and his 12th century views receive any support from the electorate demonstrates the extent of the decline of rational thought in the US. Not that support for any of the other “mainstream” candidates for Puppet of the US is any better.
Can you be serious? Religion purloined that wisdom, comrade. Claiming origination, “religion is the source of many values we all share”, is acquiescing to theft.
The supernatural backing is the tell.
“the decline of rational thought in the US”?
Comrade, demolition.
But it’s not like he’s running for just POTUS he’s pushing for his Jr. Jebus badge.
I think that’s going to be way the nasty cookie crumbles, the year of circus acts will be for naught and they will run Bush III up the pole.
I stand corrected.
True enough, Stick.
When Bush was brewing up the koolaid for the invasion of Iraq, the silence from the leaders of the churches of “The Prince of peace”, was deafening.
You define the distortion better than I. Yes. It is the notion that all virtue arises in religion, in the context of this conversation Christianity: With the implication. That man is incapable of virtue without some sort of religious figure/dogma/tradition.
Humans are ‘naturally nice’:
Religious “laws of morality” are refinements of creature endowments.
In the capitalist world, religions have been delegated the protection of morality, and in that charade they dare not invade the masters’ domain. When they do dare to expand our in-groups, they must impose their dreadful theology. They don’t bay in protest at warmongering in their name, they don’t confront the system which profits by human degradation, they don’t even police the traitors among them (fundamentalist capitalist islamophobic belligerent conmen). They’ve gone soft in their capitalist ghetto.
And in the devolution of capitalism, they will gladly minister to the abused, the neglected, the hopeless; will it suffice them to mimic the capitalist’s predation? Where is the their truth? Where are the MLK’s, the Bonhoeffers? Where are those who demand the divinity in men?
Have they learned nothing while in their ghetto? As they see their capitalist masters go insane, will they only to resume their old tricks with glee and vengeance? Or will they drop their power fetish, the Mr. Hyde to their batter half?
I don’t agree with de Waal’s interpretation of the history of science and representation of scientists as presented in the quotation. Though Huxley was a pompous fool. What happened to evolution theory once it was published was primarily a construction by Western European Christian capitalists. Stephen Jay Gould has done some very good writing on this.
I make every effort to avoid much blogging on “morality” or for that matter, any other emotional processes associated with living organisms. The language and presuppositions just get all bolixed up.
On Edit: #86 That is not to say I don’t respect de Waal as a serious and respected investigator. I don’t have the information to make my own judgment of the quality of his research. I do find it interesting. So much in the behavioral sciences is influenced by what we expect and hope to see. — not unique to our times of course.