He said people may have “good intentions” for wanting to get married in unusual locations, such as the place where they met. But he said a “recreational” or “let’s-have-fun” ceremony sets one tone for a marriage, while a church wedding sets another.
“Because something is deeply personal, that doesn’t mean it’s simply private,” Kurtz said. “… This lifelong promise needs to be made in a sacred place.”
A wedding, he said, marks not just the couple’s commitment to each other. Rather, he compares it to the sacrament of ordination for a priest — being consecrated as a “witness for God’s love to the world.”
“The sacrament is not just the wedding; the sacrament is the life of that couple that begins at the wedding,” he said.
This threat to the outdoor wedding industry by religious intolerants must not stand! Congresswomen Carolyn Maloney and Eleanor Holmes Norton, who along with their male colleague Elijah Cummings walked out of Darrell Issa’s men-only women’s health hearing last week, must convene a hearing on the Louisville Archbishop’s proposed infringement on Freedom of Place Marriage. After all, if the Church intends to ban marriage ceremonies in places created by God, in favor of weddings held exclusively in the places created by man for God’s exaltation, shouldn’t Outdoor Wedding Stakeholders have their say in the decision?
In the spirit of Chairman Issa’s inclusiveness, this hearing would feature only brides, mothers of brides, lady wedding planners, gay florists and flower girls. As unmarried — and forever potentially unmarried — men, no priests of the Church would be called to testify. After all, none of them are seeking to get Outdoor-Married!
As Chairman Issa proclaimed, we only want those with ‘expertise’ at the witness table. The Archbishop of Louisville can watch from the back row of the hearing room.




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hahahahaha well done teddy, well done
Teddy!
I do eagerly await Issa’s hearings on the proper training and duties of altar boys.
Hey there!
I hope it’s actually funny; it seemed sorta funny earlier, and if you think it’s funny as well, I’ll simply hope it’s not the painkillers. How are you doin’, ladyfriend?
It would appear that some associated with religion in this country have gone stark raving mad. Can’t think of any other reason for actions like this.
Only nuns on that panel.
good post and good to see you again, suze.
i wish to god they would stop comparing matrimony with holy orders.
it’s a little late for me to read this. if only i hadn’t been married in church but had a fun wedding i would have had a fun marriage. now he tells me.
I have to admit: When I first heard “Archbishop Kurtz Against Outdoor Weddings”, I thought it was a satirical reference to Sheri Annis’ husband. Had to be told that it was a real archbishop, not The Weaselly One of the WaPo, Mistah Kurtz.
The bishops are losing their grip on their parishioners and hope to engage the government and health insurance companies in their last-minute attempt to get 98% of Catholic women to obey them.
The musical accompaniment is absolutely perfect!
Darrell Issa lecturing anyone about anything other than how to steal cars or start fires is an utter joke.
I had a good laugh at that earlier, though.
Nothing stops Mr Sherri from opining on topics about which he has no expertise, so surely we can find him a Congressional panel to testify on!
some days are diamonds — others are coal. just gotta take it one day at a time — sometimes one minute at a time.
i don’t think its the painkillers — i think your suggestion is forking funny and i would forking LOVE to see that hearing!!!
They’ve always been mad, in my view.
The coverlet of obedience is what’s been ripped off.
LOL!
The last time they got this worried about controlling the peasants, they made marriage a sacrament (somewhere in the late Middle Ages). Cthulhu only knows what they will sanctify this time in an effort to extend their control over people’s lives.
A-yep.
Does this archbishop not recall that Jesus did most of his “preaching” outside? What’s sacred about a roof? The church comedy goes on.
He embodies the GOP effort to vivisect irony. Putting the most ethically challenged congressman in charge of the ethics committee takes balls the size of watermelons.
Are you home now, dear, or still at J’s?
YouTube must be really cracking down, though. There were no acceptable “Get me to the church on time” versions to be found…
Thanks, BFL.
They keep those secrets tight.
There’s something wrong with a society that elevates a man like him to be the richest member of his representative legislature.
This may be even better. The gay icon thing is especially priceless in this context.
Oh, dear.
still at j’s. unknown if i will ever be able to go home – tis doubtful due to the stairs. can’t think about it or else i burst into tears. will know more when i finally can start weight bearing — which will be 12 more weeks at the minimum — still unknown if 12 weeks from surgery or 12 weeks from getting ‘real’ cast instead of this plaster one.
crap. No knowing is awful.
Hoping for the best for you!
Sorry, Teddy, forgot to say the post is great and I love the YouTube – she is so talented.
Why does the Roman Church still exist? Crush the infamous thing. And every other superstition.
Oh, my. How awful. Sending positive stair vibes to you…
I think there must be a reason for this test. There’s some strengthening needed, lord knows why, so that you can manage a major test ahead. It’s obvious you’re being put through your paces for a reason.
So relax and enjoy it, and try not to think too far ahead! Every day’s a gift, right? That’s how I look at it.
Keep the faith!
Depression is a bit normal when you get all busted up. But you’ll be fine. It’s just a pain in the ass process you have to go through. Damn casts!
*shakes fist at casts*
Mwah!
Wow, the character of Julian Assange on the 500th episode of The Simpsons tonight was voiced by — Julian Assange. That’s pretty fun.
Baby steps, Suz, baby steps. And look into http://www.stairliftusa.com/ — you can have one installed on your stairs for well under two grand.
Wow! For realz?
Got her start in the bathhouses. She’s a real icon, not pretend like Madonna or Lady Gaga or, saints preserve us, Nikki Mirage.
I actually knew that. The things you learn living near Chicago’s Boys’ Town and moonlighting in the theater.
I know right? Then he DOES go to the Temple and he wigs out and causes quite the fuss. Another time he’s in a synogoge, does a reading and says “Today, you’re seeing that fulfilled.” And they threw him the hell out. Then he went to the Temple when he was about 12 years old, got separated from his parents and when they finally found him, gave his mom some lip. Yes, Jesus did way better outside.
You know who her piano player was during her rise?
Barry Manilow.
Oh, I figured you knew! For a straight dude, you know a disturbing amount of inside information about Our Culture. I blame it on anthropology, but if I were a Kinsey One, I wouldn’t go sheepherding with you, if you know what I mean…. ;)
Just another well-documented example of how The One True Church has strayed from its “roots” (or mythology, as I prefer to call it).
According the credits, yes.
He played an outcase in The Outlands, the community the Simpsons were exiled to when they were cast out of Springfield. He had a giant radar dish under a bubble, and a cave entrance to an elevator that you had to enter a secret code to get into.
The secret code was 1-2-3-4.
LOL! I think it is the anthropology thing. I cannot encounter a different culture without wanting to peek under the hood as it were. We are also trained in discretion and protecting our sources, however. First rule of our ethical code is never knowingly bring harm on those you study.
{grin}
I decided a while back that they are all really Paulists and not actually Christians.
Whaaaa?!
My jaw just met the floor.
Wonder if he owns a “Please don’t tell Mother I’m a band director – she thinks I play piano in a bathhouse” t-shirt?
Was that where Gene Roddenberry got Star Trek’s Prime Directive?
Or did you Anthro guys copy him?
I think we had it first, but it is pretty common in the social sciences. Something like that has been around in the Sci-Fi literature since the 50s as well IIRC.
As a recovering Catholic who got married under a 95 degree August sun last year, that guy can go fuck himself.
I call them Xtianists but yeah.
I like the idea of us all wearing electric chairs on gold chains around our necks (was that George Carlin?) and so I prefer to always have the X in their name and holiday, as representative of their death fetish object, the cross.
And that’s all he’s supposed to fuck!
hahahahahaha
Boys’ Town. Halstead. Near Wrigley. Hollywood Beach. But it’s not on blue water. Gotta live on a coast.
Just what part of “Congress shall pass no laws regarding the establishment of religion or the free exercise thereof…” don’t these people understand?
You know how the Continental Baths were, Ms. Manilow, yah?
“You Came and You Gave Without Taking – And I Sent You Away”
Right out of nowhere!
Yup, Paulists describes them exactly. Paul didn’t change his methods, only his nominal allegiances — and isn’t it interesting that the “Apostle” with the greatest impact on the early church was a guy who never actually knew Christ in the flesh?
I do not think that was an accident.
How did people’s heads get so screwed up ? Somebody’s been passin out some bad acid that’s fer sure.
Yep. That’s the area. I lived about 4-5 blocks west of there, about 5 blocks south of Wrigley.
Paul was the marketing consultant.
No part.
Not one single word.
Not even a syllable.
In fact, when they read that, they read it Opposite-ish.
All of it. The same as with “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State”.
Oh, now, you Gay Supremacists, trying to read Teh Gay into everyone!
Next you’ll be going on about Abe Lincoln… or trying to recruit that handsome bald-headed Arizona Sheriff to your team.
For a guy who thought himself ugly, Lincoln certainly was considered attractive to many people of both genders — much to the dismay of his (extremely jealous) wife Mary. I think it’s because his face has the look that says “a smart person formed this visage”.
About time for me to toddle off. Before I go, however, I wanted to let Teddy know that my student will be defending her dissertation on closeted MSM in rural Montana this Friday. There may be some minor revisions needed (committees like to think they are earning their keep), but as soon as those are in (I doubt it will be much over a week), I will send you a PDF. The whole thing runs about 258 pages.
The guy in
PinalPenile County?It bespoke character, which is always attractive.
Mary Todd was incredibly jealous! Poor woman had a tough life though with enough loss to make anyone possessive.
But I find Edward James Olmos attractive but by all conventional measures he’s pretty hideous.
Second that, both the choice of songs and the superb performers.
Bette & Harlettes forever!
Abe Lincoln was not gay. But that ugly Arizona sheriff, and Romney-ite…burnnnn. What’s he gonna say now? (Maybe there’s more to the story? Dunno. But I’m prepared to hate his lying ways. P.S. Why is Arizona so fuct up? Never mind, no one cares.)
Hope you have the best recovery possible, Suzanne. A relative of mine a few years ago had leg injuries bad enough to force a move away from too many stairs, and financially it wasn’t pretty. But had to be done, alas. May nothing be forced on you.
Oh, exactly. She had the horrible misfortune of outliving not only her husband, but all but one of her children — and that one was the one who committed her to an asylum for a short while.
I myself have always liked Alan Rickman, ever since I saw him in the first Die Hard and wondered why there was infinitely more chemistry between him and Bonnie Bedelia than there was between Bedelia and the guy who was playing her character’s estranged husband, the alleged hero Bruce Willis.
Very excited to read this, and tell her congratulations for me. It’s a topic that needs a lot more study, and our community is very lucky to have (well-advised and) intelligent students learning, and telling us, more about ourselves.
I just did some back of the napkin math, and figured out I have played at least 500 weddings, ceremonies, or wedding ceremony combos since 1980.
Myself, or the band I played with did at least one a week from 1980-88, and usually 2 per week between October and May (Scottsdale AZ, the un-summer wedding land.)
When I think of how many times I’ve played the Wedding March and the damn Pachelbel Canon, shudder…
I remember that canon.
We used to call it Pac O’Belle.
Hokey pokey? Chicken dance? Now THEM’S is wedding songs.
zakly
Also: Lectrik Slide!
I can playz ‘em in any key – bring on the singers and dancers!
I spun records and tapes for some 7 years at an NPR station.
I’ve heard Pachelbel Canon In Dm thousands of times.
N ya know I STILL love that piece.
More than most rock faves overplayer thru the decades.
I need to work that out on dobro in G Tuning.
Thanks for the whack up side my memory!
*G*
Wasn’t there a disco version of Paco back in the day?
Hi Larue!
Teddy, thanks for the diary, but dammit I just wish them all to hell and quickly.
The fucks.
Fuck them, them fucking fucks.
(/Newyorkese)
Lorrrrdd I dunna know, but likely, seems everything got disco’d like everything got grassified, which I consider a BONUS to some real shit music . . .
I’ll take a grassy/acoustic cover of a rock tune any day!
This Is One Of The Best.
Best to you and yers hoss . . . nice to see ya out on a Sunday. ;-)
Whatchoo doin up this late!!!! loo
Wasn’t it Peter Schickele who once said that the typical classical music station of the modern era could be described as following the “Wall-to-Wall Pachebel” format? Being that Pachebel pieces tend to be short, pleasant, inoffensive instrumentals?
Have NO idea, I was NOT a classical announcer or host, just ran tapes and records from the board on my shifts.
MY own personal best work was all community based events related, interviews with Bay Area artists, dancers, actors . . . the bands and groups they belonged to or owned and operated.
Radio and tv, NPR n PBS.
Student, and paid worker.
Best times of my life . . . ever, aside from backpacking the Sierra’s.
Or learning to play music.
Funny, you and Teddy got me wondering about the times of my life all of a sudden . .
Man have there been epochs that came and went . . . in only 59 years.
;-)
But back to the diary, fuck them fucking fucks.
;-)
Agreed!
Ah, here it is:
isn’t there something in their manual to the effect of oh yes: “For where two or three come together in my name, there am I with them.”
or something like that. Yesh this fellow sounds like another guy who eats pickles in the morning to get himself in the proper mood.
WOW! How many people who have married in the judicial courts would have to be made null & void?
Their siblings are all bastards!!!
All the hippies during the 60′s & 70′s and beyond would be made also null & void.
So what! Are we going to be deported to Australia or one of those islands somewhere in the Pacific Ocean.
Maybe we will have to move to India and take alway all the creative resources and innovation to another country.
What will be left are the dumb and dumber folks!!!!
Also the church can’t collect rental fees if people get married in the park. Nor can the priest have the final word on what is said and done. Of course money doesn’t have anything to do with it.
The reason they want to pass a law to make you marry in a church is … MONEY! i.e. the church doesn’t make any if you get married at the beach or your home rather than at a church which you have to rent.