So for the last few days, I’m sure most folks here have seen all the various Beltway Village Idiots pundits and politicians going on about how President Obama’s Birth Control Rule “infringes” on Catholic religious freedom. Today, we had the spectacle of the House Oversight Committee holding a hearing based on this claim, with of course, a member of the USCCB US Pedophile Enablers leading the way.
James Downie at the Washington Post had this blog post on how the media needs to ‘call out” Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich for their “cafeteria Catholicism”:
Last week, the uproar over the Obama administration’s new contraception mandate earned typically strident rebukes from conservatives, especially the president’s potential opponents, which include two Catholics, Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich. While issues of religious liberty played a large role in their positions on this occasion, both candidates have hardly shied away from pushing an expanded role for religion in public policy.
…snip…
Problem is, when it comes to many other Catholic teachings, Santorum, Gingrich and other Catholic conservatives completely ignore the church. Among others, Juan Cole has compiled an excellent list of the “Top Ten Catholic Teachings Santorum Rejects While Obsessing about Birth Control.” Conservative Catholics would be quick to point out that not all 10 teachings Cole lists are as central as the one on birth control, because the latter’s authority lies in the papal encyclical Humanae Vitae, issued in 1968 by Pope Paul VI. But even a cursory survey of papal encyclicals finds numerous holdings that Santorum, Gingrich and other conservative Catholics disagree with.
Here’s the Juan Cole post Downie is referring to.
Now, I happen to be one who does believe that the fact that someone somewhere might be having sex for fun drives a lot of this opposition. It may be couched in different words of course, but it sure seems like a lot of the efforts go towards making sure that anyone anywhere, especially a woman, will be punished for having sex. The same individuals who oppose abortion line up against contraception. It is what drives legislation such as that passed the other day in the Virginia House of Delegates requiring a woman wishing to have an abortion to first undergo a “Trans-Vaginal Ultrasound.” While it may be a bit of hyperbole, I think RH Reality Check is on the correct track by calling it state sanctioned rape. While I know this would never be passed as it would affect men, I would like to propose that all male members of the Virginia House of Delegates (and from other state legislatures sponsoring this type of legislation) be forced to have a full on prostate exam before they can buy condoms or go have a beer after their work day ends, whichever occurs more frequently.
Out of all the craziness and reporting on these issues the last few days, the thing I do find most remarkable is the outrage coming from the same people clamoring most loudly about how the government needs to get out of people’s lives. And they don’t see the disconnect between that statement and their insistence on being inside the wombs of women. I do wish our elected officials at least would join us in the 21st Century rather than maintaining their foothold in the 15th century – BCE.
And the video is because I can.



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And then there’s the Bayer Aspirin Birth Control Brouhaha.
I do marvel at The skills of the folks at the Onion since they have so very much competition from ‘real’ life
I can’t help but notice that the people who object to sex are those most likely to be not getting any.
Ya mean like the Catholic
BishopsPedophile enablers?And the self loathing closet cases, yep.
Yeah, Friess’s reference to “gals” was a giveaway that he’s a Santorum backer.
I didn’t watch the interview but I’m a bit surprised he didn’t refer to Mrs Greenspan as “Little Lady”
The condescension dripped…
OT good news: Pat Buchanan is officially history at MSNBC.
Of course, I understand he slithered over to Faux Nooz today, but I think that’s a natural fit.
Yeah, that aspirin joke is as old as the hills. But its point…though Friess avoided saying so to Lawrence O’Donnell, was the “holding the knees closed tight.” He pretended otherwise.
And admitted to “having been blessed by contraception,” and having only four kids.
And to thinking that Santorum never said he opposed contraception all together.
I’m not the only one who wanted to slap that man in the face. Somewhere, forget where, a male columnist mentioned tonight that several women he spoke to today, on completely unrelated subjects, said that they wanted to “punch” Friess in the mouth.
No, heck, let’s let billionaires and unaccountable groups of billionaires fund our election campaigns…free speech! What could go wrong?
Yeah, I remember it from when I was a kid but I also remember my folks mocking it.
I see another one of the tentacles of Rupert broke the “news” that Colbert’s show went dark because Stephen’s mother’s very ill. Murdoch’s minions hackin’ over here now?
Wishing serenity to Stephen’s family whatever circumstances took him away from the show.
Most of the people here have missed the point. We Catholics want our 1st Amendment rights. We’re not stopping any woman from buying contraceptives and abortion-inducing drugs. We’re saying we don’t want to pay for these items.
Whatever happened to “choice.” It’s a two-way street. And, as far as abortion-inducing drugs, what about the rights of the child?
Please don’t ask me that hackneyed question, “how many children have you adopted.” I’ll tell you: two.
Except those same Catholic Bishops have stated that their goal is to make sure that no contraception is available to anyone under any health plans, no matter who is paying for it.
And really, do you seriously want to get in a match where people are allowed to pick and choose those aspects of laws and such that they are allowed to follow or pay for? If that’s the case, then I want to be able to stop paying for wars and invasions, the DoD and the Drug Wars
None of your arguments are relevant. Churches don’t have to cover contraceptives. They can employ only people of their own faith, too.
Businesses, nonprofit or not, that hire non-Catholics and have non-Catholics as “customers” need to treat them all the same, and do not get to discriminate based on their own beliefs.
Doing it your way is flipping the first amendment on its head; making everybody else (employees, customers) conform to your belief. That’s NOT allowed under the first amendment. That is giving privilege to one religion and is not, I repeat for your edification, not allowed.
You are misreading the first amendment. It doesn’t work the way you and the Thomas More Law Firm think it works.
Now, please go troll somewhere else. Late Night is for relaxation.
I’ve had the same thought, except the prostate exam would be required for any prescription “Erectile Dysfunction” medication.
That’s exactly what Va. State Sen. Janet Howell proposed, in an actual proposed amendment. Of course, it was voted down. Surprise.
Oh, and don’t forget, that a majority of “you Catholics” are supporting the Birth Control rules.
http://www.alternet.org/belief/153939/the_tragic_story_of_christianity%3A_how_a_pacifist_religion_was_hijacked_by_rabid_warmongering_elites/
One of the way’s the ‘christians’ in this country are kept of vile intent is
ignorance.
It would be more shocking if a male dominated legislative body in VIRGINIA [is for lovers] voted against keeping their peckers up.
I don’t believe that when God says a man should stop breeding (by, shall we say, wilting his pecker)
that the RCC says they will pay for pills so he can get it up. Anyone listening to what I believe?
On Edit: Silly me! Of course the RCC and Santorum-types aren’t listening to me. I don’t have a pecker.
Dearie! Slap hands, grrl!
ROFL … Excellent !
Oooh! Here’s some nice karma:
Newtie’s bus breaks down in West Hollywood
Check out the photos and the twitter messages this triggered. Hee hee.
You know, I can’t believe it, but it’s been darn near forty years since I went to a consciousness raising at Radcliffe College, and saw, in the ladies room, a poster with a large photo of (ahem) a phallus..and the legend: DO YOU NEED ONE OF THESE TO GET A JOB???
I was momentarily stunned…then busted up laughing. (young and innocent, y’know)
Now I’m afraid we’ve scared ElmerSoup off….and I was just getting ready to have some fun!
Say I’m a Quaker…..can I not pay taxes for war??? Why not? I believe!
Say I’m a Muslim…..can I stone my sassy daughter??? Why Not? I believe!
The nonsense of this contraception debate is horrifying. The country gets more insane by the day.
And maybe 27% of the country is disposed to be insane. I suppose the rest of us can just sit back and be quiet while the GOP eats its own. And then try once again to slam them into oblivion in the next election. Wish we had a real Democrat to lead us on.
Looks like Elmer just signed up today to bring us his
wisdompiousness. Who, I wonder, sent him our way? Jeez, I hope shooter242 isn’t cloning himself.I would think we scared off the troll, but I looked it up…dropping one troll post and skedaddling appears to be its m.o.
If you can call 2 posts in the 3 weeks since it registered an m.o.
The very definition of trolling, n’est-ce pas?
I am not into this religion scam, so the only question I have is why the hell is my taxpayer money being given to a religious organization? I am disgusted that we are supporting these dresswearing, addle-brained, rump-wrangling, santorum generating, bible-thumping pedophiles. And then there are the bishops…..
So how’d you like Radcliffe? I wanted to go to Barnard but my mother….well, she was not in favor. I ended up at University of Arizona… which to my horror was one of the top 10 party schools in the Playboy poll the year I started. I did go on to Stanford to start my graduate work. World of difference. Though I must say that the State of Arizona was quite amenable in the mid-1960s. Quite open to Hispanics and blacks, in my experience. I wonder if all the retiree-move-ins have skewed the attitude? I have no interest in going near the place these days. My ex (who grew up in Arizona) is a big Republican in AZ. My parting words to him when we divorced, “I never told you….but I did NOT vote for Nixon the second time.”
He snapped back as if I’d slapped him across the face.
The last part of your post is hilarious. Love it. You really knew how to hurt him, huh?
As to me and Radcliffe – when I read the post I realized it gave the wrong impression. I was never a Radcliffe student…this was a conference open to the public held at Radcliffe, early ’70′s. I was in Boston area as …heh heh…a student wife. My first husband was a grad student at MIT…closest I got to a first tier college. I’m a state school girl meself, Indiana for undergrad.
(Coulda got a “PhT” from the MIT student wives’ club…it means Putting hubby Through. Every fall I got an invitation to join. And every fall I sent it back with rude “No, no, a thousand times no” equivalents written across it.)
I think I will have more tangerines…
Yep, the man was a true authoritarian…and still is…and he ‘believed’ I would vote as he ‘suggested’. Well, that wasn’t a happening thing.
And I will say gladly that I got a wonderful education at UArizona and went on to teach and then went to another state school and got an MSW and helped kids and then went to night law school in CA and still work as an attorney. It’s been quite an adventure.
Raised Catholic, I am appalled by the backsliding of the church. Fortunately, I think, I ‘grew up’ eventually and wised up. I always thought transubstantiation was a crock….but it took me a few years to ditch the whole routine.
Lt Col Davis wrote an 84 page critique of the USA MIC ME wars that Rolling Stones has provided on line. Just finished it and it confirms much of what I espouse. It should be required reading as it exposes how the media has deceived the USA public and US Congress to support the wars.
http://www1.rollingstone.com/extras/RS_REPORT.pdf
Obama needs to get us out of these wars now.
I wish I got the reference, but I’m not cool……….
If Obama were on our side………
Tangerines are about as relevant as telling people what to think but they are very full of vitamin C. (I am baring my soul) Big fat grin!
It’s darn hard to keep up with everything, Dearie.
Well, I may not make it to LLN tonight. Think I gotta be moving on..to bed.
It has been a busy day.
Ain’t it a great read, bb…?
in other words can’t take these dudes seriously to far out in right field.
The man is well informed, experienced has a lot of guts when he says everyone has a right to their opinion and he knows he is going to get flamed by the pentagon. Balls
Love Guy Clark, n Jack Elliott, for decades.
Bless ‘em, both. Gifts to us listeners. ;-)
Best to you and yers, hoss . . . nice diary, too.
Both Father Diddler & Bishop Pederast have a REAL problem with the idea of Catholics using birth control – it gives them less potential
victimsrecruits.Because women aren’t people to them. They are (currently uppity) chattel.
See, it’s very, very simple.