- “Greek Prime Minister Lucas Papademos has said there was ‘total convergence’ among political allies on new austerity measures needed for a second bailout and debt cuts to avert default. ‘This will allow us to negotiate in the best conditions,’ Papademos said on Sunday after talks with his Socialist predecessor George Papandreou, Antonis Samaras, head of the centre-right New Democracy party, and far-right leader George Karatzaferis.”
- “Greece has rejected outright German proposals for the EU to hold power over its budget. Culture Minister Pavlos Yeroulanos told the BBC it would be ‘impossible’ for Greece to cede control of its tax and spending powers.”
- “French President Nicolas Sarkozy has announced plans to introduce a tax on financial transactions. The 0.1% levy will be introduced in August regardless of whether other European countries follow suit. The tax is part of a package of measures set out by the president to promote growth and create jobs.”
- “The largest political alliance in Iraq’s government has said that it would end its boycott of parliament. The decision by Iraqiya on Sunday, backed by much of the country’s Sunnis and some secular Shias, could ease an ongoing political crisis in the government of Nuri al-Maliki, Iraq’s Shia prime minister.”
- “The Afghan government is planning to meet the Taliban in Saudi Arabia in an attempt to jump-start peace talks, the BBC has learned. The landmark meeting will come in the coming weeks, before the establishment of a Taliban office in Qatar, according to Western and Afghan officials.”
- “The Syrian military has launched an offensive to regain control of suburbs on the eastern edge of Damascus, storming neighbourhoods and clashing with groups of army deserters in fighting that sent residents fleeing and killed at least three civilians, activists said. Six soldiers were also killed when a roadside bomb detonated near the bus they were travelling in south of the capital.”
- “Cuban President Raul Castro has reiterated a pledge to limit political terms in office to 10 years, as the country’s Communist Party ended its two-day national conference in Havana. In a closing speech to the party’s delegates on Sunday, Castro said a constitutional amendment would be required, but that leaders should begin to adopt the practice even before it formally takes effect.”
- “Apple, the computer giant whose sleek products have become a mainstay of modern life, is dealing with a public relations disaster and the threat of calls for a boycott of its iPhones and iPads.”
- “Aung San Suu Kyi, Burma’s iconic pro-democracy leader, has made a campaign visit to the coastal town of Dawei ahead of by-elections on Apr 1. Suu Kyi, 66, used her first political trip since ending a boycott of the country’s political system last year and announcing plans to run for parliament to call for changes to the military-drafted Constitution, Reuters reported.”
From Real News:
- “The US/Saudi Agenda and the Syrian Rebellion. Hamid Dabashi: Saudi’s and US attempt to control outcome of Syrian revolt”
- “This House has no confidence in Bahrain’s promise to reform. Doha Debates takes on Bahraini government’s claims of reform.” (48 minutes)
Prof Richard Wolff’s weekly radio broadcast, Economic Update. The main topic this week is the private sector vs the public sector. Scroll down to Saturday, 28 Jan, 12:00pm.
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Got a little feisty back in the last thread, just in case folks scattered to the diner before reading my sublime words of wisdom, a post script:
*ducking the barbs* MoJoe this morning speculating there’s a couple years in Mitt’s tax returns where he paid zero taxes.
It’s not about the rules, Mr. Axelrod, it’s about the personal ethics of knowing right from wrong. Especially when wrong is legal.
Wonder if it’ll occur to Republican voters that the ruthless guy who lashes his dog to the car roof and carpet-bombs Newt and stows his money in the Caymans ’cause he can will not hesitate a second to cut their safety net out from under them.
Rs who don’t count on the safety net like that.
G’ Morning Pups, I usually don’t get here so early…Hope you all had a good weekend. Here in Central TX word is we’re going to 65 this afternoon….”wish you were here”. But we’re sorry about our Gov;)
In disturbing news closer to home.
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Good morning pupses, and thank you, SD.
Ok, going to show my ignorance, again :)
That was from the financial transaction tax article. Do unions here in the states do that? Negotiate on local levels?
Hi RevBev, good morning. We have been having similar weather. If you stay out of the wind, it’s almost shirtsleeve weather.
Hi, Feels good doesn’t it? Then we can have serious cold spells into April….TX weather.;)
Good morning. Had to go back and look at the last thread. Sorry I missed it. Margaret is a top notch troll dispatcher. That particular troll is no where close to holding his own against her. And why are rebuplicans so quick to play victim? Newtie did it all last week.
Good morning Dinerzens. Thanks for the post and host SoDrag.
Sadly, no.
The syndrome is not limited to Republicans, either.
Good morning all.
We have had 7″ snows in March, so neither of us should feel too cocky, you are right *g* We’ll just enjoy it while we have it.
democracynow: Iraqi govt outraged over U.S. use of drones there.
What appears to be local may in fact be national, for instance here in the Red River Valley, American Crystal Sugar growers have locked out their workers for months. National union trying to negotiate with growers who are in union-busting mode. Not a pretty sight. ND is a right-to-work state and locked-out workers get no unemployment benefits, MN workers get unemployment benefits.
This consumer gets honey at the grocery store and boycotts American Crystal Sugar and sugar-based products [yes, your morning sugar doodles have likely been loaded with ACS].
Romney big lead in Fla polls…first update Ive heard recently….Anyone but Newt has to be a good thing.
Had major problems with the last Book Salon. So much so that I didn’t comment.
Thanks for the example, PS.
I was thinking yesterday of the history in my own family. My mom’s father was a Swedish immigrant who was employed by the WPA in the Chicago Parks system. Big supporter of unions, mom said.
Other grandfather was a metalurgist and engineer, married into a wealthy family and crossed the picket lines as a scab.
There’s always getting your own bees. *g*
I hear that a lot of grocery store honey isn’t honey at all. I also hear that a lot of it comes from China & has all kinds of poisonous junk in it. I can’t vouch for the veracity of either report.
If you can afford it, buy honey from your local producers. Supermarket stuff can’t hold a candle to the real stuff.
Had an extended email exchange with some one who read it after the fact. Short version: how wise I was to leave immediately.
Mornin’, pups
So Margaret’s already got a new troll scalp on her lance this morning? You’d think these fools would learn before they messed with her.
Hi ya, oldnslow. I like it when Peggy “gets feisty”.
There are a few people in my life I’d like to dispatch with her words. :)
Sorry.
Good Morning and Thanks, SD.
What was the problem? Not agreeing? Not answering the questions?
Good morning, Firepups. Now off to get a cuppa tea and read the tasty stuff up top.
She clearly was in no mood to mess around this morning. Straight up told him to “shut the fuck up.” Perfect for that troll. Who has yet to show up here by the way. (as far as I know)
Good morning.
eCAHN, when honey starts to crystallize after sitting in a jar for a long time, what do you do with it? Can it be heated a little to reconstitute it?
I’ve noticed that “person” hasn’t crossed the threshold of the diner.
I’m guessing the owner would thrash his ass in record time.
Doesn’t suffer fools gladly :) Loved it.
Sit the container in a pan of hot water.
The Republican voters are like a herd of cattle or buffalo. The ranchers (Republican leaders) have directed the herd in a particular direction (to vote for Romney) and that is where the herd will follow, although isolated strays may occasionally deviate from the path. But primary results still show Romney as an incredibly disliked and weak candidate, a gift to Obama.
Bullshit baffles brains. I recognized the syndrome after about 5 comments. Typed that my blood pressure was rising and I was out of there.
Specifically what set me off was Bartlett saying that everyone agrees there should be no corp tax, they should be ‘integrated.’ I’m guessing that’s wrong. I am not up to date on that subject, so I didn’t want to try to engage him. Besides anyone who makes such a dogmatic statement is an asshole and unengageable, so I was smart for a change and just bagged it. I’ve stayed on some book salons after they should have been taken to the compost pile, and I know how that makes me feel.
Forewarned is forearmed.
Good morning everyone and thank you for the post SD.
I think so too.
Don’t start that shit on my thread is right up there with just shut the fuck up.
I like Horseshit too.
You can still use it in every way you would use liquid honey. If you really want it to be liquid, just warm it a bit. Honey from Egyptian tombs had found to be still good to consume. The real stuff never deteriorates as long as it is kept in a nonmetal container with a lid.
Truth be told our Miss Peg is as wonderfull a person as you would ever want to meet. A brilliant mind and a very engaging personality. That said, you are soooo correct to point out that she does not suffer fools gladly. Or any other way.
Oh stop it! It is a balmy 26º here this morning. Which I guess is “warm” compared to the teens from last week.
Thanks….didn’t know everyone agrees on anything…
and the Democratic elites are herding “their base” where?
Yep, I would be jealous, too…:)
Love that imagery.
That statement and the following one:
When disagreement is so fundamental, it is best to leave. But YMMV.
Will do, thanks :)
Ahhhh, yea-uuup
I don’t ever wanna get into a contest of memories with you. LOL
Check. This is from DIL’s stepdad’s hives. Thanks.
Our RevBev slapped the troll around just a bit her ownself. Bravo!
I agree with everything you said. Plus she has such a keenly imaginative and playful facet that I really enjoy.
I couldn’t suppress a shiver. Lord, that is cold!
It can be a curse sometimes.
But, what I’d really like is for you and Margaret to have a little talking to with my ex. In a dark alley, preferably. :)
Morning SD & Pups of Fire:
Hedges is up…
;)) Thanks, blushing…
Exactly. You don’t need to understand economics to recognize that syndrome.
Yes, Bev’s cute too when she gets feisty.
One of my previous bosses said to others in front of me — as an insult — don’t ever ask him a question unless you REALLY want to know the answer. I took it as a compliment.
Applies in spades to Margaret.
And eCAHN, as well.
There ARE folks who don’t think that…thanks, cutie.
That’s one interpretation. The other is that most voters do not pay attention to the issues because the issues are too complicated for people with 6th-grade equivalence education (with two years college, of course). So carpet-bombing them with negative ads works. I wouldn’t be too sanguine about Obama’s chances in a carpet-bombing campaign. The Thugs can muster a lot more money than he can, even with the banksters supporting him. The only way he can manage is to go nuclear himself, which would ‘tarnish his image.’ Lose-lose all the way.
Excellent.
Do you know natural raw (never pasteurized or heated) honey is a great antibiotic for wounds? Also local stuff works well to reduce pollen allergies.
Great, thanks. Sometimes I forget about Truthdig. I have way too much stuff in my ‘favorites’. Should really cull it down to the most important reads, or at least reorganize it so they are at the top of the list.
I’m gonna hafta go through that thread sometime today just to catch Margaret’s handiwork.
One just has to avoid ant hills after applying the honey.
I did know about its antibiotic properties, but not about the allergy reductions, although if you think about it does make sense – in a desensitizing sort of way :)
Do I remember though some controversy about giving infants and very young children honey?
I don’t suppose anyone addressed my Q about why western economies still had supply side economics policies when the problem was clearly too much supply and not enough demand.
Morning puips. We got back from Moscow last night. Granted that Moscow and St Pete are not all of mother Russia (or even a big part of her), the impression of prosperity and real happiness among the people is palpable. They have emerged from their near century of nightmare. It feels freer than the United States, though I’m sure if one were to dig deeper it isn’t. Very little police presence, and the security at the airports is much less intrusive. Also, the airlines are infinitely better than US carriers. Can you imagine a full lunch in economy for a one hour flight? Good, too. We flew back on United. It was like the old greyhound bus service, even in business class. Nickle and dime. It ought to be the national anthem.
For late January, it’s actually not all that cold. And it is gonna be 50º tomorrow, and rainy. We’ve had a couple of snows of 6″ or more, but followed in a few days by rain that washes it away. In my experience, it’s an unusually warm winter. I have daffodils poking little green shoots out, but that may be partly because they’re near where the intake/exhaust is from my furnace and it blows warmer air in that spot.
Ha! Wonder if the bees would get after you, too.
LOL.
Is he causing you problems, or is this just a general observation? *g*
We tasted some Russian honey in the Kuznetsky market in St Petersburg (it is next door to where Doesttoevski lived). Incredible. There was a stand in which a woman was selling at least a half dozen varieties, each with a different taste. Plus you could buy straight from the comb. I wanted to bring some home but was afraid it would spill all over our clothes. Sweet.
My natural foods store only carries natural raw honey from FL.
Yeah, honey is not for infants.
I should look up the stats, but it seems to have been a milder winter here, too. Hyacinths coming up, and I think they are at least 2 weeks earlier than ususal.
Good morning, Knut. Did you by any chance read Teddy’s post from last night about boycotting Aeroflot? If you aren’t too jetlagged, you might want to give it a look.
Now, I’m wondering where None of your beeswax came from.
Gonna go lookitup.
To the same place the Republican elites are herding their base — to enslavement and destitution.
Interview with Willard’s family dog…
Um…from bees? Just spitballin’ here. heh
In 1998, I absentmindedly left my pocket book on the table prior to scanning security for the flight from Moscow to St. Petersburg. Some one picked it up, the guards found me and returned it to me intact. I hadn’t even realized what I’d done yet, but I was amazed.
I was there in summer, right before the September/October meltdown. So my experience of the economy was the opposite of yours. Glad to hear that things are now improving for real people.
Nothing like that is “supposed” to be up for another couple of months. I’m watching to see what happens to them when it gets cold and snowy again.
Sounds like mutual political nuclear destruction.
Occupy is laying the groundwork to pick up the pieces.
I remember people dipping fussy babies’ soothies in a little honey, long time ago.
One of the good things about getting older, not having to worry about things like that any longer, although then there are grandbabies to worry about.
I’ll take a soothie with a little honey, please :)
I buy local honey…and honeybees from Heifer International….
That is also standard package on flights in South America. It is also true for long distance bus travel in many locations.
From a commenter on that Nonsequitur cartoon:
So everyone has the trolls, even cartoons.
The guy is hopeless. You have to be really fucked up or really desperate to take money for shoveling the kind of shit he dishes out every day. I’m feeling generous today. I think he’s just desperate and can’t find other employment.
He’s harrassing me. It involves money. It’s almost over as James will be graduating in 4.5 months. And, I think that’s the main problem. He’s losing his “power” to “fuck” with me, so he’s getting in his last licks.
Apparently that applies to infants less than a year old.
There’s actually several theories about the etymology.
I buy big jugs of honey. Gave up on sugar except for iced tea and nectar for the hummingbird feeders. Haven’t seen a hummer yet but hope springs eternal. Hoping to get some this spring during the migration north.
I enjoy reading the book salons featuring guest authors I generally disagree with.
I enjoy reading the comments of individuals I disagree with.
Listening to people offering different opinions allows me to learn and test my own ideas.
Of course, there are limits and some commenters do cross the line. But, generally speaking, I think labeling commenters as trolls is overdone.
Have no feeder but saw hummers in my garden for the first time last summer. The hummers broke their red-flower-only rule and sipped nectar from my cleome.
Wild Mountain 100% Raw Honey from Oakland, CA. And, the jar has the Not for infants under one year old warning on the label.
By the way, and W-A-A-A-A-Y off topic, I suggest any of you who have teens of college kids should download this book, free of charge through today in honor of Data Privacy Day. It’s a very good summary of the things we do online and how they can haunt us, written by the person who founded JuicyCampus and lost control of it. It focuses on college kids, but it’s a good reminder for younger, and for all of us. Well worth reading by anyone who goes online. For example, how many of us have Googled ourselves to see what’s out there?
lol…OMG!
It was just awful in the late 90s. I was ther in 95 on a USIA speaking gig, and people were standing in the streets selling family possessions for food. But you can’t believe the prosperity today. You can’t tell the clothes from the west (except the mink coats, which are astounding. The kids look like kids everywhere, glued to their cell phones. One difference. People care for each other there. I imagine it is because they’ve gone through so much. I met some Americans who have emigrated to Moscow and to St Petersburg because life is better for them (they are investment bankers, though) than in the US.
Urban dictionary:
I hope my two show back up. They love the perennial pink salvia plants that I put in last year. They aren’t those spiky, upright salvia that I was familiar with, and the hummers and bumblebees just couldn’t get enough of them. I hope the nursery can identify them for me, and I hope I can purchase some others. I’d like to pull some of the other foundation plants out and replace them with these.
Red attracts them but the flowers they feed from cover a wide range of colours. Just about any trumpet-type flower will provide nectar.
Good morning, all.
Actually, eCAHN, Bartlett finally did say that the problem is … a lack of “agregate demand” …
And, while I have no interest in seeing your blood pressure rise, the “pressure” which you apply is, very often, what allows others to undestand how the BS is being flung about with uppitty abandon.
Frankly, the needle on my BS meter pegged early on, and later I aggravated the mods a wee bit by asking Bartlett about “offshoring” as it, very clearly, has an obvious and undeniable effect upon “demand”. My question was removed …
I look at the Book Salons as a means to ask deeper questions of the “opinion shapers” however much the mods feel I go “off topic”. I do so to discover the agendas or actual perspectives of the guests.
I permitted myself considerable latitude on both Saturday and Sunday.
No doubt, ’twill eventually get me banned … at which point I hope that someone else might ask the questions that require more than facile regurgitation and jargonistic appeals to thought-suspended fantasies.
DW
But, generally speaking, I think labeling RUDE commenters as
trollsassholes is underdone.I hope you don’t mind my changes.
Ouch. I’m sorry to hear that.
My son and his ex did well co-parenting until he remarried, and since then, his ex has gotten really ugly and difficult, partly over money. He pays the appropriate amount of child support and then some, and did even when he was flat broke and I was helping him out, and he pays for extra stuff all the time, but she gives him NO cooperation with the kids at all.
That sounds horrible. From spores, which wouldn’t be harmed by a natural antibiotic.
Russia was one of the more visible shock doctrine victims.
We have as a family done a goat and chickens at different times from Heifer, but I love your bee idea.
Thanks for dispelling the myth about the red. Trumpet-type flowers are typically climbers. You gave me an idea for what to plant along the fence.
The trick is to have your feeder out before the migration starts. If you search for hummingbird migration maps, you’ll get a number of helpful suggestions as to when you should set up.
Make sure your feeder has a lot of red, but don’t dye the nectar. And full sunlight is best. Once the birds know the feeder is around, you can move it pretty much anywhere on your property and they’ll find it.
Boxturtle (Loves hummingbirds)
Good morning, Knut. Love reading about your experiences. You mentioned something like this once before in a comment: One difference. People care for each other there. That was such an interesting observation, and I wondered how that manifested itself. You certainly were able to observe it and I’d love to hear about it. Thanks.
Meant to pass this along to you. Is it old news to you?
Scientists link mass death of British bees to farm pesticides
I rarely comment on economics threads anymore. Too repetitive and no headway made.
What you hope to accomplish is possible only if there is an honest person on the other side. That is increasingly unlikely in economics.
Red dye in feeders harms the hummers. I got hooked on ‘em last year and have done a ton of research on them. They’ve been seen here sporadically and we’re on the migration path. I leave he feeders out all year and have hung red reflectors from the auto supply store in the trees to attract them. They can see red flowers and feeders from over a mile away I’m told.
For DW at 97
I wonder what the fuck that was all about. I didn’t think we were here to pamper these people.
I’m familiar with that.
Insecticide producers are doing their best to deny the link. Think global warming/oil corps.
But it actually is prolly more complicated. Monoculture for example is particularly stressful to honey bees.
My husband and I have raised Sonny for 9 years, with my ex seeing him every other weekend. He keeps track of the money he spends and deducts half from the child support. He has never taken him on a vacation.
He gave his son a tiny little sports car for his 16th birthday and has been pushing for me to take him to get his drivers license. Sonny just not all that keen on driving and I don’t want him to drive the teeny car, so we’d have to sell it and then get something reasonable. The insurance he needs before he can even take the test will be expensive and we’ve been focusing more on the college plan. (His father hasn’t saved a nickel for that.
That’s basically it in a nut shell, but he’s sending me intimidating and threatening letters, which doesn’t do well for My blood pressure.
econo @ #41
the quote from the salon author you gave and eCHAN’s earlier quote makes me very glad i missed the “trickle-down economics” seminar.
good morning all and special thanks to you, SD, for the news roundup.
karen
I love them, too. Ours are still cautious, they hang in the air for a bit watching us to make sure we aren’t going to make a move toward them before they start to feed. I like hearing the sound their wings make.
I have a long fence with Carolina Jasmine, light yellow trumpet blossoms and they love ‘em. Check out the trumpets that want to grow where you live.
Good morning, freedom and coffee (and tea) lovers. I didn’t read that book salon at all, I’m with eCAHN when it comes to eco threads. But, I guess I missed some fireworks lol. DW, don’t feel bad if you get banned by an intolerant host, it’s happened to all the best people. Happened to me last week at the Boggateria lol. Badge of honor for the bannee, and a confession of defeat by the banner, in most cases. ;-)
I’ve read about the monoculture stress. That is a relatively easy problem to relieve. Farmers just need to rotate crops the way the Anabaptists have been doing it for centuries.
In general I agree with that, and I do think we (Firepups) can be pretty quick to throw “troll” at a commenter we disagree with.
This guy, on the other hand, just shows up and spouts Republican talking points.
Agreed. And much as I like Margarets contributions, she missed an opportunity to say that she did not intend to mean all rich people so she gave free ammunition to ‘shooter’. Poor people steal bread, yes, but not many, we don’t know the percentage. I don’t think we know what percentage of rich people do or want to do what Margaret was talking about. Also, ‘STFU’ is not an argument I would accept from an adversary,so I don’t find it useful coming from M either.
Sports car for 16th birthday instead of a college savings plan….says a lot right there. :(
The Book Salon seems to have its own rules. That’s been my experience.
Off to swim in the great capitalist cesspool.
US KIA Afghanistan: 1,889
Afghan, Iraki and Pakistani casualties: estimates vary to over 1.5M
US MBS 2012: 3,596 and counting
The Long Memory
No war but class war
Be good to yourselves, and all other living things
Namaste
Never. Give. Up.
Thanks, I’ll definitely be checking them out.
Agreed, and yet it is “economics” which is the “battlefield” where necessary principle, beyond bombastic cant and appeals to ignorance MUST be invoked.
Only those such as yourself may consistently pierce the bubble of happy hubris assumed by far too many “economists” these days.
You know where the weak spots lie (no pun intended) and how to connect the logical absurdities that fly high over the heads of most of us.
I do understand you disgust and annoyance, believe me, but your steady chipping away is far more agravating to the uppity than you may realize, and as they become more snippy and dismissive, intuitively your many admirers (and this applies to econobuzz as well) see more light through the deliberate confusions and deceits than you might imagine.
On the economic absurdities, no one twists tails quite so well as you.
;~DW
Demi, do you know a lawyer? Friend? Someone else could manage some of that stuff to help your bp and to get less noise from you ex, probably…sort of take it outta your hands.
I haven’t noticed much modding, but they keep a pretty close eye on Book Salon to keep people on topic. BevW pays close attention and steps in with a warning.
The Dabashi analysis of Syria and the wider Arab Spring context makes an important point. The fact that the US/NATO and the EU are seeking their own interests does not invalidate the grassroots revolutionary character of these revolts. This is important to remember especially for those regimes that are not US allies–Libya, Syria, Iran, Iraq (watch for this). There are two phases if these grassroots revolutions are to be successful. They must break the dictatorship, and then they must break the attempt of the US/NATO and EU to micromanage the revolution to the interest of the US/NATO and EU. The revolution in Tunisia has pretty much accomplished the first phase. In Egypt and Yemen, breaking the dictatorship is not complete so long as Tantawi and cronies and Saleh’s cronies remain in power. In Libya the breaking of the dictatorship is complete and the worry is about ensuring grassroots participation and resisting micromanagement by the US/NATO and the EU.
I bring this up because for a lot of folks there is a nostalgia for Gadhafi or support for Assad because of their denial of access of neoliberalism to their countries. And even this is not so clear in Gadhafi’s case because of the rapprochement with the Bush/Blair administrations.
I got admonished on Palast’s thread and at the end he stood up for me. That was very cool.
Can’t do that in industrial ag.
Monoculture has existed as long as farmers, near as I can tell. For example, it’s what did in the founders’ VA tobacco farms and indigo in SC.
If hedge rows or dandelions are allowed anywhere near almond crop (something like 300 miles of nothing but almond trees) bees will go there and not do their ‘work’ of pollinating.
I thought about the ‘rich people’ discussion, too, and came to the conclusion that they all benefit from the abuses that make much of their wealth possible. Hard to avoid being splashed with at least a little hot tar.
Doesn’t it? I could kind of understand the vitriol towards me if I had left him, but it was the other way around.
(Same person who was not invited to my daughter’s wedding, but crashed it anyway. But, hopefully soon I won’t have any dealings at t’all. :)
That’s a good idea. An arbitrator, of sorts.
Not just careless, but with a mean streak. I’m sorry.
I’m going to try and let it Ride Out. My 24 year old son says if I continue to let it bother me, that He’s going to handle it. I just got another letter last night, so that’s why it’s bugging me. I just have to Let Go. And, that’s a challenge for me. Maybe I should join a kick boxing class. :)
It is not the host who bans, but our own mods who decide when lines have been crossed, “too far”, rc.
As all of you must, by now, full well know, I am little fazed by celebrity and more than willing to ask those questions which I consider might reveal the deeper truth or motivations.
Politeness is too often, in certain places, confused with NOT asking the hard and salient questions.
Also, as you must know, I am a very slow learner, though I have considerable respect for the social amenitiesm, I am more concerned with encouraging the revelation of truth.
Mostly I seek subtle means, but then, again, sometimes that is not “enough”.
And “enoughness”, as you suggested on another thread, DOES matter, rc.
;~DW
That’s a great idea about your son…Let him be the buffer. Good luck….Ye, kick something;)
Not fun at all. My son’s ex is more about being irrational and screaming at him on the phone, and feeding the kids propaganda about how “controlling” their dad is, and freaking out when he tries to impose some rules and discipline or when he wanted to have the oldest evaluated for ADHD.
This is the guy who gave her everything when he had nothing, went out of his way to keep her off his bankruptcy (even though she contributed to it), and let her take almost all the furniture while he lived with odds and ends.
GAH this probably isn’t for this thread. Sorry, pups.
Started young. In mid-20s (late 1960s), RA to Harvard econ prof, my job was to collect econometric equations and slot them into macro model, test it, etc.
People who I collected from were PhD students & profs working on specific sectors. Martin Feldstein was doing the financial sector. When I got his equations, I reestimated them on a database that was error free (my standard procedure), some of his variables turned out to be statistically of marginal significance, so I called him & told him. He said: Just use the equations anyway.
Om and Bev. Thanks, girls. Most people find me a nice person. When I first was dating my husband, I told him I wish the ex would move to the other side of the planet. And, when you first meet someone, you’re supposed to put your best foot forward, but I chose to be honest instead. It only took the two guys meeting once or twice for the truth to be obvious.
He’s probably irked that you’re really happy…It will be nice to get to a point when you don’t have to deal with him….
Well, I started it and I’m sorry too.
But, ya know, I bet there are more than a few pups who have had or continue to have Jerks in their lives.
On edit: And, it does help to know We Are Not Alone.
Will he contribute to the college costs for James?
It does seem to be that.
I think that’s part of my ex daughter-in-law’s problem, although she and a guy we’re pretty sure she was seeing when she was still married moved in together within weeks of the separation and have been together since. We surmise that it is jealousy. Not that she wants my son back, but because there’s another “Mom” in their kids lives and they love her.
Not at all. Doesn’t even know what any of the plans are.
Hasn’t been involved at all with the special education accomodations, classes etc either.
I’m still picturing you singing in the shower and dripping on the bathroom floor. LOL!
“Just use the equations anyway” … yes, just use the damned drones, to hell with “collateral damage”.
No bought economist EVER intends that he or she will feel the effects or consequences of what they “sell” and further imagine that their offspring, being chips off the old block, will skirt the the “outcomes” as well.
I confess to having annoyed more than one such “economist”.
Ah, well …
;~DW
Why should anyone suffer fools gladly? How else they gonna learn? It’s like trying to get the mule’s attention, sometimes you need to use a brick. ;-)
My daughter-in-law’s ex, on the other hand, denies that his son has Autism. He is from Portugal and she was terrified when he took the kids there for two weeks to visit their grandparents. She was afraid her son would be overwhelmed and run and hide and it’s a foreign country where the boy wouldn’t speak or understand the language.
It turned out OK, fortunately. I told her he wouldn’t want the blow to his image of “losing” his son. I think the Autism denial is also because he can’t bear that his son isn’t perfect.
Oh, I wouldna glorify me various “soundings” with the term “singing”, msmolly …
However, I can “drip” with the best of ‘em, you betcha!
;~DW
See, this is actually topical if we are talking about how “denial” can lead to greed, envy, jealousy and the behaviours that those emotions can inspire.
In response to Bluetoe2 @38: Democrats can’t be herded in the same sense as Republicans. But they can be easily intimidated, which is what is occurring now.
That’s one of the best parts of the Diner. We aren’t alone, The coffee’s freshly ground, there’s a wide variety of teas and the sticky buns are homemade :)
Like Powdermilk Biscuits, our friends give us the strength to get up and do what needs to be done.
A brick?
Hmmm, much more compact and concentrated in mass than me old 2by4.
I must look into this.
Progress is a wunnerful thing.
Thanks, rc.
(A brick … who would have imagined?)
;~DW
Hey! We both used the “D” word.
Since part of what they know about Asphegers is that it is often hereditary, could the son be a chip off the old block?
When James was first classified, I called his dad, natually, and when I described what was going on, he said, Oh, that’s me! And, that’s the only conversation we’ve had about it.
Oh, the convenience of denial.
Fucking A(men).
Thank you, Om.
Someone was talking about a Paleo/Primal diet (whatever that might be) on my Facebook page this morning. I’m feeling kind of primal, I think I’ll go take a look! I don’t think I could run down a prey animal, though…I’m more of a drub about for tubers with a stick variety.
Safe travels and safe home, sweet pupses!
Your adoring
ohmmmm :)
((demi)) *g* You are so funny!
We won’t send you to be on Survivors, then.
Thank you!!
demi,
You are not alone here at all. My ex. is on the other side of the planet as you say and I am so happy about that. It is my oldest daughter that is going through this with her 15 yr. old twin boys and I keep telling her “3 and one half years” just like you only have a short time with James as you said til graduation.
It is not easy, but look at all the support you have had this morning by bringing it up. You go girl!!!
Oh, and btw, if Ruth is lurking…I think it’s safe to say We are all thinking of you and Cleopatra.
It pays to try and make appropriate distinctions, IMO, no matter what group you’re annoyed with. Good morning, sweet one.
Oh gosh yes.
Thank you, dear.
I do have a tremendous support group.
The Lake, the members of my household, my entire family.
I’m so freaking blessed.
Hej, rc, should have said hi upthread but got carried away with the stream. Glad to see you, too :)
Truly heading out this time, but maybe see you this afternoon for a java break? Take care!
So true…thanks for the reminder…I saw the part about the vet, but did not see what the symptoms were…Anyone know?
Oh, you’d think I’d know more about mod behavior than what I’m showing lol. Hey, it’s a Monday!
“slow learner”? Best laugh of the week so far. It’s so very good to have you back around, DW.
I have NO idea what DW looks like, but upon reading yesterday’s comment about singing in the shower and dripping on the floor, I had an instant mental picture of a tall, thin, dark-haired, hairy guy scrubbing away in the shower with water leaking out from around the shower curtain.
(DW, apologies for the mental picture!)
O/T I just learned that there is another occupy group in Pacific Missouri which is about 20 minutes to the west of me. I have emailed the St. Louis group to see if they know who the contact is. They don’t have encampment yet but there first GA is Friday night. Thought I would pass this along.
Good morning all.
On edit: I am off to swim (in a pool).
I saw you sneak in and out.
Have a relaxing swim.
I think she said Cleocatra seems to have gone blind in one eye. The emergency vet said perhaps a stroke. I haven’t seen Ruth this morning.
And, I heard falling down, too. :(
Regarding conditions among Apple’s Chinese workers, boycotting Apple would be satisfying; however, maybe Apple is just one example of a much larger problem. If the Chinese gov’t hasn’t already done something about the situation, then those leaders are complicit, too.
It would be the same pretty much everywhere in Chinese manufacturing. It’s an economy based on exploitation and stealing jobs to cheaply supply American customers. That suggests a boycott of Apple should not stop there, but be much, much larger.
A spotlight on all the things we enjoy which were manufactured in China or have any Chinese made component would reveal a very long list. Get with it soon, or in the meantime I’ll buy the iPad I was admiring recently.
Oh, my. I missed Caturday yesterday and didn’t get the news. So terrible and scary. *positive, healing thoughts for Cleocatra and Ruth*
If people would take boycotting seriously it would be something more than “satisfying,” it would be effective.
It’s not that Apple “may be” an example, it is the tip of the iceberg.
When people see that others are ignoring a boycott to satisfy their own agenda they think “Why should I boycott Apple, I want an iPad too.”
We missed you.
Hey Om. I’ll give you a call this morning whe I get to the office…
I missed you guys, too. We had a “Spring” cleaning/furniture rearranging weekend to prepare for hosting a Super Bowl par-Tay next weekend. Stupid super bowl.
Thanks to you both….Angela had gotten very wobbly at the end. That doesn’t sound good…Warm thoughts for Ruth and Cleo.
Hi, just checked in and saw you. We did miss you, I wondered if you guys were remodeling again or something! I have my phone… :)
Abner gives the Superbowl a «backear». Two, even.
Therein lies the problem and I hope it doesn’t affect OWS. People need to put away their toys and get involved. IMHO! When the masses are distracted the PTB will continue to rob us blind.
Thanks Demi I swam my butt off today 30 laps in 25 minutes. :)
That’s no big deal in a child’s wading pool lol. How’s your daughter doing, popy?
The Emetrol I got here helped her nausea. I think the antibiotics helped. Thanks for asking. Hope your doing okay. Child’s wading pool good one. :)
I know that I am late, but I had things to do and then read through the comments. Anyway, hi, all.
I would like to commend to you Law and Disorder today. They have a very long interview with Tariq Ali. I have read some of his writings and heard some interviews. I like him and think that he is a terrific analyst. If you would like to hear him, go here.
Tariq is a truth teller. Always a pleasure reading/listening to him. His books The Duel: Pakistan on the Flight Path of American Power and The Obama Syndrome: Surrender at Home, War Abroad are must reads.
Hey popy, did you get the emails I sent you? I sent three, one came back, so I’m not sure if I got your address right. (And I’m not gonna throw it up here, or SD will spank me lol.)
I’d agree we see a bigger problem than Apple over there, which was my point.
Yet boycotting just Apple produces a poster child. It begs the question, why not all of them? Otherwise the rest skate while the news shows depict the Apple logo in its negative light.
Better to mount a broad based campaign and publicize the miscreants — all of them. I’ll join a seriously big boycott covering it all, rather than just a token, which is all that’s afoot here. It’s feel good symbolism only.
No I didn’t contact Suz and I will authorize her to give it to you. or if you have Demi, Molly, or OmAli email they can give it to you. I didn’t receive any spam so I guess you didn’t have it right. :)
Afternoon, everybody. I was even more of a slug getting out of bed today; looks like I missed lots of good stuff. Gonna check out the early thread to see Margaret’s spanking of the troll.
Gathering said troll was sh**ter? For those who don’t know, he’s a longtime troll on other liberal sites, like Mother Jones and I forget what else – just know I’ve seen him on several for quite awhile. Very nasty.
He fits the definition of a troll to a tee – his only purpose is to tick people off; if he’s ignored, he does go away ’cause he needs a reaction.
I was really bummed to see him show up here at the lake, and tbogg, too.
Comic strips – one of my faves is “the Other Coast” – here’s a good one from last fall.
Get it from OmAli.
I thought this was relevant to the discussion pardon my interference. This is chapter 3 of Tao:
Do not glorify the achievers
So the people will not squabble
Do not treasure goods that are hard to obtain
So the people will not become thieves
Do not show the desired things
So their hearts will not be confused
Thus the governance of the sage:.
Empties their hearts
Fills their bellies
Strengthens their bones
Let the people have no cunning and no greed
So those who scheme will not dare to meddle
Act without contrivance
And nothing will be beyond control
You are a good influence SD. :)
Heja, rc
ygm
on it, thx
I’ll get it from OmAli. Sorry about that. ;-(
No problem.
lol! I don’t know what that means, but it looks so funny! No, don’t tell me, lol.
oops, reply to tejana @ 191.
lol!
Heh, don’t let me hang around yer kids for very long. LOL
Oh, NOW I get it! His name! I thought it was supposed to be some arcane swear word….
ouch, I laughed too hard…
You’ll understand if you go down one flight to Attaturk’s thread this morning.
*g*
On the topic of boycotting, I will add divestment. Here in the NYC area, on Sundays we can hear a program called Beyond the Pale. This is a Jewish program (obviously), but not a zionist program. Yesterday they had on a reporter from the Forward who said that isreal is getting worried about the divestment program because had such good results in South Africa. He also told about a program run by aipac that recruits college kids from the historically black colleges and universities to learn about politics, fund raising, etc. from them. It is not overtly pro-israel, especially at first, but is through an aipac lens.
I was laughing so hard I probably would have fallen down one flight :)
I think I need an intervention…. help!
This happens to John and me fairly often. One of us sees something that looks funny to us, and starts laughing. The other one thinks that is funny, and before long we are out of control. John threw up in the back seat once and I almost P$$d in the front seat.
Thanks, I got it. Apparently, I lost a letter somewhere. Sucks to get old lol. How efficient we are here, though. ;-)
LOL They have a mind of their own. Since I didn’t ruin them I am sure you can’t. LOL
The revolution has to be fought on the economic front. The ruling elites may have the money now but if and when we, the people, stop giving it to them we will prevail.
I just realized I didn’t put in the station: it is WBAI. BTW, SD, on Law and Disorder they read the stations that carry their program, but neither WMNF nor any other station in Tampa/St. Pete carries it. There is a station in Sarasota. Can you get it?
What’s so funny about “shafter”?
Don’t start! Please, don’t start!
OmAli – Gawd, I should preview – I leftout the pronoun “I’m gathering” and I didn’t think about what putting the ** in the places I did might imply…
the reason I didn’t spell out his nom is that I suspect some of those trolls have programs to alert them when they’re mentioned, and I didn’t want him to show up. He’s a particularly loathsome one, with whom it’s useless to argue (tho I liked what Peggy said, and it can be so tempting).
He’s a regular at some of my favorite sites, and I just hate that he’s turned up here.
If I can’t get it on my radio I there’s always the intertoobz.
He’s been here a while. Don’t see him as much as we used to. I shouldn’t bait him but can’t help meself now and then. DW gave me a few groups about it on David’s thread upstairs.
Back to work.
Namaste
a few groups??
here we go again! lol!
I’ve had too much coffee…
SD, I didn’t word that well about WMNF. I was wondering if WMNF would think about putting it on their schedule. I’m sure that there are many people that haven’t heard about the program.
Cups and things are washed but you guys were funnier than anything they had to offer today.
Here is something restful and calm In This Small Spot
Believe it or not, it is just like that here, late in the evening.
Have a good afternoon, pupses :)
Did you happen to understand his comments to me? Went right over my head, except the insult part.
Hmm, I kinda skimmed…but then, I don’t expect sense from trolls….
On edit – yeah – his reference to you “defending bigotry & prejudice” was because he had already accused Peggy of those..you didn’t say anything about that, but then, that’s his (and trolls’ in general) method – attack something you didn’t say, redirect to a minor point, pretend not to understand the point you’re making, bring in a straw man, attack somebody else not in the thread, pretend that saying something about x = saying something about y…etc., etc.
If you look for logic or sense…well, that’s a big reason that engaging with them is so fruustrating. It’s like punching a pile of jello.
Don’t waste your time, there was nothing productive there. There never is with that guy.
In order to send classified info via voice comms the message is encrypted and sent by using groups made up of 3 letters per group. At the beginning of the message the sender tells the receiver how many groups are in the message. Among the initiated “groups” is used in lieu of “words.” Inside joke I suppose.
Pfooey, RevBev – I just put a long comment on my 220 on edit – it must’ve been too late.
Anyway, I think s****r was doing what trolls do – attack one person for something another one said. He’d accused Peggy of “bigotry and prejudice” so when you criticized him, he pretended to take that as “defense” what he characterized as bigotry and prejudice.
Classic troll methodology – attack one for what another person said; attack a straw man; twist the point made into something else entirely; Make a passing mention into the main point of the attacked post; pretend that supporting x is the same as advocating y….etc., etc.
It’s like punching a stack of jello…trolls will never acknowledge that you’ve drawn blood, they’ll just shift their attack a little. This troll is particularly consistent at that behavior.
Don’t feel bad…nothing anyone said will persuade him he’s wrong. That’s not what he’s about: he’s about getting “libruls” riled up and derailing their discussions.
Pretty inside, all right! Does that come from computer lingo, or does it date back to Navy Intelligence or somethin’?
Thanks to you and RC…no wonder I didn’t get it…Wow, is he wasting his/her time
And ours!
On another topic from today: I thought this was interesting; a Texas beekeeper has stopped trucking his bees around the country to pollinate ag crops, and they’re getting healthier.
The article goes on to say that probably pesticides are not the only cause of colony collapse, but that they likely cause “sub-lethal” changes that make the bees more susceptible to other things, like the notorious mite we’ve heard about before in colony collapse.
And, on topic (and a comic strip!)one of my favorite strips
Oh, forgot to give a hat tip to Skippy the Bush Kangaroo for that link to the beekeeper story.
Back to days on the rivers in the Mekong. Lot of voice comms.
Riverine forces?
I think eCAHN has mentioned that before, also.
We should start keeping bees, too. Again we see how important our local agricultural and farming practices are.
Mobile Riverine Force 1967-70.
yeah, I thought so. Wasn’t too far off, then.
Have I ever mentioned that my ex’s brother was killed in ’68 (yes, Tet, the anniversary of which approaches) on a river boat. It’s been too long since we discussed the details, though, I can’t remember what his kind of boat was called…think it was not (sigh) a Swift Boat.
For years, ex was trying to find someone who might have been there to tell him what actually happened.
Could have been a PBR (Patrol Boat, River) but there were many types of river craft. PCFs (Patrol Craft, Fast), or Swift, were not common on the rivers. Most were out of An Thoi, on Phu Quoc island. Most casualties on the boats came from either rifle/machine gun fire or RPGs from the jungle on the banks. Ambushes when the Force was on the move were not uncommon.
Wish I could keep bees. If I had my own place, I believe I might be tempted. Tho’ I’d probably do like eCAHN and hire someone to do the hard work. But it would be nice to contribute a little bit.
As it is, I’ve been ruminating on how I might find a spot to plant a few veggies and herbs this coming summer. The front porch is just a bust, no point wasting the money. But there are a few spots in the backyard that get sun for a few hours a day.
One of our local weatherpeople reports periodically on his garden – was surprised the other day to see that he’s still getting some lettuce! I thought just one frost would kill everything, and we’ve had at least 2 or 3 (I know northerners are laughing), but maybe he covered them and thereby saved them to continue producing.
It will be planting time in a month or so…
PBR has a familiar ring…and look what I found, for what it’s worth (to me) on the Wall Info pages: In THUA THIEN, SOUTH VIETNAM
HOSTILE, GROUND CASUALTY
ARTILLERY, ROCKET, or MORTAR
There are a number of posts from childhood friends and a couple of servicee buddies. None talk about that day, of course. I didn’t realize that website existed. When we visited the Wall, PC’s I don’t think we had Internet; search was on paper. Bet it’s been upgraded since then.
Okay, sorry to have brought down the mood. Someone on NPR mentioned TET anniversary, and that started me thinking. The family is still deeply impacted by Chris’s death 44 years later.
Always nice to get the gardening catalogs (paper and online) out and start planning. I’m going to concentrate on herbs this year, maybe some garlic. The farmers’ market will have to supply the rest. I am so looking forward to home-grown tomatoes, fresh mozzarella and basil, dizzled with olive oil….
The guys who came back aren’t the only ones who suffer from PTSD. It’s made worse by the fact that their loss was for nothing. We need to never forget that every person who loses their life through military action is not the only person affected.
Gonna get a female goat, get goat milk and make mozzarella?
No kidding. As the priest said at my mother-in-law’s funeral, “Her heart was broken when Chris died, and she never got over it.”
Absolute truth, imho.
When you came back, did you feel that it had all been for nothing, or did that sense evolve gradually?
Can’t do it in this silly place, but the kids have said they would board a horse for me….maybe I could work in some goats, too. I’d really need to be there every day, for that. Yes, I would love to have a small herd of goats for milk and cheese. And just the fun of the crazy animals :)
So many times I wish we had bought property when we were transferred back here…seemed like the right thing to do at the time.
Oooh, is mozzarrella goats milk? Sounds delicious…I think making mozzarrella might be fun.
OmAli – I would so like to be able to grow tomatoes again. I learned quite a bit about them while married the 2nd time, when we had the big unshaded yard and a big garden.
Now I’ve got all shade and it doesn’t belong to me. I’ve had terrible luck with herbs – some grew, some years, but never more than thinly…not enough basil to make half a cup at a time…just not enough sun. Then there was the year it rained all summer, and drowned not one, but three separate crops. The next year, of course, it hardly rained at all….
The last two years I just didn’t bother at all. My new (2 summers ago) neighbors planted several pots of flowers last year…I tried to tell them…and were shocked when they took vacation in August, came home and found them all dead and drooping over the side.
I noticed the other night they’ve replanted with shade plants like hostas.
I had turned against the war before I came back. Kent State was a real turning point for me. When I left in Sep 70 I knew we couldn’t win and that it was for nothing. Lot of water under the hull between Aug 67 and then. Young, naive and crazy. By Sep 70 I was just crazy.
The families of those sent to Irak and Afghanistan know those feelings…
So is where you are home, then?
And, when you posted that “the kids” are moving to a new farm, does that mean it’s too far away to visit easily? You sounded like you wouldn’t be able to get there often to visit the goat and rooster (cripes, can’t remember their names!)
Yeah, and I tell ya, my ex is a sensitive type (except maybe with me, lol)- every announcement of military deaths hits him like a hammer, and I swear, he feels physical pain.
I can tell you, too, when he-my ex, 11 years younger than his brother, quit junior college to join the Navy also, with his dad’s permission, his mother was so angry she didn’t speak to her husband for nearly a year. For obvious reasons. Even though it was peacetime; but then peacetime can be wartime pretty easily. (His Dad was Navy in WWII)
I dunno. Can ya make any kind of cheese out of goat’s milk other than what we call goat cheese?
You betch’um, Red Ryder.
Oh, yeah, I’m sure. Goat cheeses all over Europe, probably Asia, too. I’m sure they all have some sort of local name. My local fancy branch of the supermarket labels most of their cheeses as cow’s, sheep’s, or goat’s milk. But on my budget I don’t buy many of them, so am not the expert.
I dated a Viet Nam vet in 1971. He was just back and really working to adjust to civilian and college life. Never, ever heard him talk about his experiences over there. Really nice young man, and I hope he is well.
Here, goat’s milk cheese by country
’71! You are my cohort! For some reason I thought you were younger. heh.
Coupla sweet young things. *g*
It’s all relative, ain’t it? I’m finally old enough to understand why my mother and her friends regular refer to 40-somethings as “boys.”
Still about a 3 hour drive, so not something I could do every day. John, my son, works for a medical transcription/voice recognition software company, is working on his Master’s and travels a lot with his job, so having labor intensive animals isn’t in the cards right now. My new DIL just finished her Nurse-Midwife/Family Nurse Practitioner certification, and will be working, too, although I think she will be able to spend more time at home. She is really looking forward to a big garden and increasing their flock of chickens ( I think Solo is the one you are thinking of ).
Heh
Born in 52. Just immature, is all :)
They are gonna send some eggs your way, aren’t they?
We have you fooled, so ‘twould seem *g*
Oh, yes. You have had farm eggs before. No comparison to the store things, is there?
Gotta feed the tigers and do the Diner.
Namaste
Re: the cheeses: (from the wiki)
I think my fancy store has all 3 Spanish and Portuguese cheeses; I’ve never seen that Welsh one…in bold…maybe an American marketer would change the name of that one…too many jokes asking to be told there…
None. If they’re not ever refrigerated they last longer.
That is a great link, thanks! I really don’t know anything about goat farming, just a dream. I do know I don’t care for aged goat’s cheese though, fresh is the way to go, imho.
*just shaking my head* lol.
Oh, heck, you are younger – I’m late ’49. (A sweet moment memory: card checker at a college bar in law school, checking my i.d., saying in loud voice: FORTY-NINE? If she’s 49, I don’t even wanna see yours”-waving my boyfriend’s proffered i.d. away. Heh.)
Oh, hell, I’m just living in the past lately.
I need a freakin’ job! Too much thinking time when you’re unemployed.
I’d go buy some cheese, I think, right now, but suddenly we’re having a downpour…radio reporting lots of accidents.
True, or so I have heard. And you would not tell a lie.
Look at the number of comments today. We have all been a chatty bunch. Wish we had some fresh eggs and cheese, the three of us could make a big-ass omelette and a pot of fresh coffee. Breakfast for dinner. Yum. Maybe we’d have company, too :)
From what I could see of your photo your hair and skin are beautiful. I, on the other hand, look like cured goat leather from living in the sun.
I was looking for Valentine cards today, not typical ones, just blank ones, and there was one about living too much in the past. Dang, wish I could remember exactly what it said….don’t let the past steal your present, or something like that. It is true, isn’t it? I do that too.
Don’t go out in that mess. Not worth taking a chance.
I’m going to have to get busy with supper. Roasted vegetables, brown and wild rice, and a little bit of chicken.
This has been so nice. ((tejana)) ((SD))
Ruth, thinking about you and Cleo….
No rest for the wicked.
Thanks for all the work you put into researching all those links every night. You open new doors for us every morning. Don’t remember to thank you often enough.
Don’t make me eat your comment!
It was so great to hear your voice! Thank you for helping me with my selection :) Can’t wait until it arrives.
Scritches to Abner, that rakish devil.
You really don’t want to get between me and my Caprese….
Of course, I will share :)
I wasn’t there, but I still tear up every time that war gets mentioned. This country lost a big part of its soul in those years, and we’re never getting it back. I dropped out of college in 1970, and my lottery number came up as #9. I never got called for a physical, and I had the good sense to never call up and ask why. But I could never escape the feeling that it was all being done in my name, and it just broke my heart to see how some of my childhood friends came back.
Does that mean some decision has been made about Rod?
You were just waitin’ for me to get here first and make sure it was safe lol.
C’mon and have a cup of coffee while I wash and cut these peppers.
Truly am going to go and get busy. ((rc))
“pantysgawn” heh heh heh where’d they go?
No, not yet. I think they are going to make another attempt to convince his owner how awful it would be to leave him after he has become so gentle and accustomed to the family and the other animals. It would be so unfair to him.
I’m standing here, waiting for you…just tapping my foot impatiently :)
“If you live with one foot in the past, and one foot in the future, you end up pissing all over the present.” I think Confucius said that. Always been one of my faves.
No. 9? wow, you were lucky. You from a large city? That might have made a difference.
My first husband was from a small town and so got called up – but on med exam was made, hmm, (recalling from distant memory…) 1-Y, I think. Meaning not likely to be called short of invasion. He had a congenital heart condition..which ironically, probably saved his life – it was discovered on an exam for a USMA appointment. If I recall, 2nd lieutenants from the classes of the mid-sixties didn’t have a long life expectancy. He’s still around, having discovered the family weakness early.
Keeping my fingers crossed for you. I did not realize the farm or the new place was such a distance for you. That’s hard. :-(
I’m not waiting any longer. He is all yours, now :)
Bye, slow poke rc.
Now I feel mean because of that nice comment. Thanks, truly, you know how attached I have become to Rod.
Being summoned, see you guys later :)
It was lucky, although I don’t know if I could have passed the physical, I had some issues even back then. But, I was a crazy young buck in those days, and I was telling myself I didn’t give a fuck what happened to me. Didn’t get any sense until several years later.
You are mean. You’re double mean cuz my earlier comment was to the effect that I arrived before you to check out the Earth, not the Diner lol. Born 1951. Everyone thinks you’re so nice, but I know the truth.
My eyes are going funny, I’m out till morning. A sweet good night to all, and especially to mine splendid host, thank you for providing this wonderful venue for friends to love each other. ((SD))
Oh, noes! I didn’t realize Rod (the goat, rigt?) didn’t belong to your own kids. Oh, my, it would be terrible to leave him. (geez, and I don’t even know him).
Oh, best wishes coming their way for persuading the owners to let Rod go along.
and now, good night, OmAli.
Niters, rc. Hang in there!