Everyone says that Republicans and Democrats are ideologically polarized. President Obama said so in his State of the Union address:
We need to end the notion that the two parties must be locked in a perpetual campaign of mutual destruction; that politics is about clinging to rigid ideologies instead of building consensus around common-sense ideas.
Ryan Lizza makes the same claim in his New Yorker article, The Obama Memos.
… when Obama took office there was no ideological overlap between the two parties. In the House, the most conservative Democrat, Bobby Bright, of Alabama, was farther to the left than the most liberal Republican, Joseph Cao, of Louisiana. The same was true in the Senate, where the most conservative Democrat, Ben Nelson, of Nebraska, was farther to the left than the most liberal Republican, Olympia Snowe, of Maine. According to Poole and Rosenthal’s data, both the House and the Senate are more polarized today than at any time since the eighteen-nineties.
Lizza cites the work of political scientists Keith T. Poole and Howard Rosenthal for the proposition that the divides are ideological. Their work leads them to the conclusion that most votes turn on a liberal/conservative divide based on tolerance for government regulation of the economy, and the rest turn on a cluster of cultural values.
One problem with this work is the use of votes on actual bills to define ideologies. In the three years of the President’s term, it isn’t easy to find a single bill that would qualify as liberal which has advanced to a vote. That problem is illustrated by the health care bill. There were plenty of liberal ideas for revamping the health care system in a way that would benefit average citizens. These range from some form of single-payer to highly regulated insurance companies as in Germany and Switzerland, to outright nationalization of the system as in England. In the middle, the public option was a moderate position, which some of us stupidly thought was the position of President Obama. Then there was the conservative position, RomneyCare, and further right, the position of Paul Ryan and Ron Paul, moderate and severe versions of you’re on your own. Among Democrats, there was no one espousing the liberal position, and only a few who actively supported the moderate position, which did not include the President.
One arguably liberal bill, cramdown in Chapter 13, passed the House and got a vote in the Senate, presumably after it became clear it wouldn’t win. There were 45 ayes, all Democrats, and 51 nays, including all Republicans and 11 Democrats.* Cramdown was, and remains, an excellent solution to the housing crisis on its own merits. I classify it as liberal because it corrects an unfairness in the system that lets rich people cram down mortgages on their vacation homes in Chapter 11, but denies working people the right to do the same thing for their homes in Chapter 13. It would have made a significant difference in the housing disaster, because it gave homeowners power in dealing with thug banksters and their fraudulent servicing operations.
The explanations offered by those opposing the bill were stupid. They argued that it would increase mortgage interest rates going forward without bothering to explain how that would happen or why. The real reason was that it would force banks and investors to face their losses on real estate mortgage-backed securities almost immediately. Investors would have immediately seen the extent of their losses and could sue the liars and cheats who sold them worthless securities. Timothy Geithner, Larry Summers and bank ass-kissers at the Treasury were actively opposed, according to Pro Publica. The Treasury created the absurd HAMP program to pretend to help homeowners, and it failed miserably, both because banks refused to participate, and Treasury refused to penalize banks for their failures.
Republicans have something like an ideology. They say that wealth trickles down, and they do all in their power to give more money to Oligarchs and their corporations, through tax cuts, reduced regulation and social control of the rabble. Democrats are on board with giving tax cuts to Oligarchs and their corporations, reducing regulations or simply refusing to enforce them, and they are fully on board with social control of the rabble, especially when the rabble has the temerity to ask for accountability.
It’s time to quit talking about ideology. It’s time to recognize that the only divide is between the bullies and the weaklings who refuse to stand up to them. Here is a precise example from the State of the Union Address:
Some of what’s broken has to do with the way Congress does its business these days. A simple majority is no longer enough to get anything -– even routine business –- passed through the Senate. (Applause.) Neither party has been blameless in these tactics. Now both parties should put an end to it. (Applause.) For starters, I ask the Senate to pass a simple rule that all judicial and public service nominations receive a simple up or down vote within 90 days. (Applause.)
The bullies reject majority rule because they are in the minority. The weaklings refuse to fight back. The President joins with the weaklings: “Neither party has been blameless in these tactics.”
That summarizes the Democratic ideology. Stay in power. Don’t aggrieve anyone with money. Don’t annoy the bullies. Screw liberals.
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* Baucus (MT), Bennett (CO), Byrd (WV), Carper (DE), Dorgan (SD), Johnson (SD), Landrieu (LA), Lincoln (AR), Nelson (NE), Specter (PA), and Tester (MT). Kennedy (D-MA), Rockefeller (D-WV) and Sessions (R-AL) did not vote




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Bingo!
Double Bingo!
Yes, there is a democratic party ideology: “we will do as our paymasters, the ptb, tell us, in order to keep our positions of protecting their privileges. There is no reward for us in legislating for the rest of the nation.”
Hmph! And “ideological divide” is extremely superficial. So superficial in fact that it would be more analogous to compare it to a scratch in the paint than some canyon.
Since the arrival of the DLC, the Democratic ideology has been this: kill progressive ideas and movements as soon as they appear.
Think of the American government as a great bald eagle with a right wing and another wing growing out of the tip of that one.
What is the PTB?
Powers that be.
“Powers That Be”
Edit: You musta missed the pop quiz. ;)
The Democrats have more in common with a street gang than an actual political party. They are all and only about the acquisition and holding of power for their own self enrichment.
They hold fast to no ideals or principle’s and willingly compromise away everything while getting nothing in return except a hollow claim of victory.
Exactly. And the mandarins of the Democratic Party would rather lose elections than lose control.
Politicians have always been self serving narcissists but these ones seem to have raised it to a whole ‘nother level. Their ideology begins and ends where it benefits them personally. If your interests fall outside their sphere of priorities, you’re just screwed.
Ah, masaccio, usually you enlighten me, today ya crack me up!
How very glad I am that I had no liquids in hand when the title of your post flashed across my screen and seared into what I imagine to be my consciousness …
;~DW
good gawd …
this is blog-0-topia and yur all supposed to be smart and ana-lite-ical!
there is a Democratic ideology:
1. make whiny ass sniveling diaper pissing excuses about mean meanies being mean… and untruthie … and non – noblererer, and un smarterer.
2. lie about caring about people the way you lied to get into all those fancy schools and those fancy Democratic leader jobs. Take care of your Yuppie Sewage Pond Scum buds while you sell out the little chumps.
3. If you’re in group 1 or group 2, or a mix, remember LESSOR OF TWO EVILS LESSOR OF TWO EVILS – NewtMitt PerryPalin!!
4. Make sure you get the activists to feel responsible for NOT working hard enough to change things – make the activists feel that if they had just passed 1 more resolution or knocked on 10 more doors or called 10 more voters, then, things would ahve changed … ha ha ha … see #3.
rmm.
Your comment #4 banged it out of the park. If I had a dollar for every time someone blamed us hippies for the 2010 election debacle, I’d be rich enough to buy a Senate seat.
What makes that line of argument especially annoying is that the same people who blame us for losing the election also contend that we’re so irrelevant that the party mandarins shouldn’t pay attention to us.
The Democrats don’t have an ideology but rather a strategy, the leave-no-daylight strategy. They try to stay half a step to the left of the Republicans, but only on issues that the electorate bases their votes on. For example, extra-judicial assassination of Muslims is an issue where Obama is all too happy to step the the right of GWB.
Terrific post, masaccio! It’s so easy to fall into the trap of accepting the uses of words like “ideology” without thinking whether they are used properly. Saying that there’s an “ideological divide” is half true but it easily slips into a variation “both sides do it.”
So quite voting for weak democrats. Vote third party when they offer new democrats.
No.
Many of us have. It was sniveling Blue That lost in 2110. No one in the Party or media seem to want to make much of that. But check it out.
Now take a guy like Bernie Sanders. Please. Nice speeches. Votes for liberal bills that might make it to the floor then votes then when that loses for the shit Obama wants. Thanks Bernie. And whatever happened to that Saturday Night Live guy? Funny guy.
Yeah. you can keep the money from that one if I can keep “The party needs to move to the right to get the independents.”
After 2013, because he has neither an ideology nor any further need for strategy, we can expect Obama to show his true right-wing nature — see this by Ian Welsh.
Edit: That would be Blue Dogs
> Is There a Democratic Party Ideology?
No, just Democratic Party ideots.
The recognition that the Democratic party stands for nothing and will stand up for no one has been very liberating for me. I feel not the slightest obligation to vote for this party.
If you can’t vote your core values you are no longer truly free. Oh, sure from time to time an expedient vote is appropriate, but expediency is not representation.
He’ll be out of office and cashing in his bribes in the form of speaking fees.
If one was to mistakenly identify Obama as a Democrat rather than a Corporatist, then the ideology would be described as “compromising one’s principles” to the point where the only remaining principle is compromise, leading to Capitulation.
Way back when they called the liberals “pinkos” the thugs gathered support and the dems became very afraid. Then came the DLC. The rest, as they say, is history.
Book Salon up with Bruce Bartlett’s The Benefit and The Burden: Tax Reform-Why We Need It and What It Will Take hosted by James K. Galbraith
Ideological divide = where the majority of us wish to be stabbed
The Republicans laughingly go right for the heart. Democrats prefer to use the back and go for kidneys. Either way you end up on a slab in the morgue or paying large sums of money.
For all the liberals out there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLqKXrlD1TU
There never has been a Democratic ideology. In fact, there was not much of a consistent ideology in either party until the Goldwater election of 1964. The whole idea of ideological purity of an American political party was a product of the conservative movement that arose after World War II and who were very upset at the direction that President Eisenhower and the Republican Chief Justice Earl Warren directed the country.
Until 1964, each party had its share of conservatives, liberals and those in between. Each was a big tent party with scads of internal ideological conflict, conflicts among different interests, and conflicts among different regions. National conventions tended to have long and contentious sessions and lots of internal maneuvering to select the candidate for President and Vice-President (vice-presidential selection was only recently at the discretion of the presidential candidate). Out of this milieu came the political bromides, “All politics is local.” and “Politics is the art of compromise.”
So when the Republicans purged themselves into an ideological movement and then used that unity to hammer home a consistent message beginning with the Reagan administration, Democrats were caught flat-footed. That confusion still exists, which is why Barack Obama can be both a corporatist and a Democrat. Like many of his Democratic predecessors–in fact the majority of them since the Civil War.
For the most part, corporatism was not a big political issue in the post World War II period because (1) the New Deal, (2) the establishment of trade unionism, and (3) a generation of corporate leaders who were smart enough not to screw all the other stakeholders (investors, suppliers, customers, employees, government) of the corporation.
Corporatism is a hot political issue now because the PtB are both too greedy and too smart by half. The have finally succeeded in tanking the economy as thoroughly the non-bureaucratic autocrats of business did in the 1920s. And they have done it in semi-participatory, semi-hierarchical, “matrixed” organization structures that have not insignificant constraints from first-level direct reports. Exactly the style of government bureaucracy that President Obama sits as the formal head of.
And corporations benefited greatly from the Republicans’ single-mindedness and the Democrats’ confusion.
Is there a Democratic ideology? Nope. Never has been.
Should there be a Democratic ideology? Might be too late for that. The political cauldron is bubbling and no one knows sort of spell is going to come out of it. Both the Democratic and Republican parties are in collapse (although their disappearance or transformation might take another decade.
All it has ever taken to be a Democrat is registration as one. President Obama is registered as a Democrat, according to most reliable sources. Therefore, he is a Democrat.
The idea that a politician compromises his principles makes a presupposition about what those principles are.
My memory is that Barack Obama burst on the national stage in 2004 with a speech whose most memorable line was “There are no red states or blue states, only the United States of America.” One can argue that the primary personal purpose for his candidacy was to destroy the ideological polarization of American politics. Whether it was the man or the times, it does seem that polarized American politics on a right-left axis lies in tatters. The political machines grind on as if nothing has happened. The media narrative drones on as if nothing has happened.
You can look at that as a failure and be cynical, or you can look at it as an opportunity and start your revolution.
At this point it doesn’t matter in a lot of respects what Barack Obama does or what he does when he’s out of office, be that next year or in 2017. What matters is what ordinary people do and what they drive their elected officials to do. Contrary to a lot of illusions, 2008 was not 1932; it was more like 1924. In 1924, an agricultural depression that was to last a decade was in full swing and no one dealt with it. For the next eight years, folks tried to ignore the fact that free-market production in agriculture was impoverishing more and more people, faster than they could leave the farm and try to find work in the shiny new industries – automobiles, gasoline refining, electrical appliances, radio, motion pictures,…Instead of agriculture in depression, the developed world of the West is in increased depression. Really it should be no surprise that we wound up with Calvin Coolidge instead of FDR.
Rahm Immanuel called us “f*cking retards”.I don’t think there’s any more that needs be said about this Administration.
Don’t know about ideology, but the basic strategy is as follows:
Lie to progressives and liberals during election season to get their votes.
Then when in office, promptly suck the dicks of all the Republicans they can find.
Then explain that was the best they could do in spite of a strong progressive mandate.
And finally ask for Democratic voters’ support for new kneepads during the next election cycle.
That is the Democratic Party’s secret of success.
The 1960s created the phrase “do-good liberal”, meaning the folks who swooped into to help the “poor ignorant masses” in the inner cities or in Appalachia or on Indian reservations. And who had better things to do once the going got rough or they stood face to face with the reality that most folks in those areas face.
The answer to the question would be, “sometimes.”
The Democratic Party is cobbled together from many interest groups with agendas overlapping, or not, depending on the group and the agenda. The only absolute consistency (or nearly so) would be a labor-friendly stance.
Otherwise you have gun control vs 2nd Amdt, libertarians vs power centrists, pro or con on gay marriage, pro or con on ACA, etc., and plenty of annoyance when some or another like-branded groups don’t fall into line when called upon.
So nobody can claim to be the keeper of the keys except perhaps in labor’s arena. Take heart, however, and watch the GOP self destruct this year, and the Dem predicament won’t seem so bad after all.
There is still time.
I would rather have a beer with Kim Kardashian than Barack Obama.
As far as our political parties are like product brands, well, you don’t think about brands, you consume them.
Another in a long line of thoughtful and insightful comments from you, TD, and thank you for it. I would only add one factor that you left out, which is that the computer revolution served the corporate power wave in a novel and unprecedented way in that is created new efficiencies for business that made the globalization dream a realistic one for the first time in history. And that in turn set the stage for a rapid and unprecedented consolidation of corporate power, such that it is now realistic, for the first time in history, for major corps to think in truly transnational terms and adopt goals that are about true control of the entire world population, with gaining total control over regional political amd economic structures as a series of reasonable interim goals. That is why I percieve the true fight to be a global one, requiring a global wave of resistance from those whose futures are sought to be controlled and limited by the corporate oligarchs and their minions. And in that context, our localized focus on Democratic vs. Republican seems pathetically parochial, doesn’t iut?
Not that this isn’t known by most (if not all) of you, but it bears stating aloud:
Democratic Party’s National Platform is the written policy which party members work to achieve. It’s reviewed and renewed, rewritten by Democratic party members every four years, and it’s through which Democratic politicians decide what policies and legislation Democrats in public office, at all levels of government (federal, state, county/city) are going to put forth.
Nowhere is it more obvious that it’s just a piece of paper or that the Democratic Party has been hijacked by corporate opportunists than when it comes to the pro-choice plank of the Democratic Party’s platform which commits Democrats to opposing attempts to overturn Roe v. Wade. You tell me how then it’s possible for the Democratic Party to have within it and support politicians who are anti-abortion?
Nobody has been as ineffective at holding back incursions into abortion rights and access to abortion as Democrats, and that’s because it’s one of the methods that they use to keep pro-choice women and men showing up on election days (just as Republicans use threats of gun regulations, and tax hikes, etc., to keep their voters turning out for them election after election).
Even the most pro-choice of Democrats in Congress, alleged stalwarts who’ve spent entire careers, decades in public office, have failed miserably to protect women’s rights and have let it get to this point. One example of that is Barbara Boxer.
In 2006, Democratic senators and the Democratic machine publicly supported Democratic candidate Ned Lamont who was running for senator in Connecticut against newly independent Joe Lieberman. Privately, working behind-the-scenes, Democratic senators and former president Bill Clinton were working to help Lieberman raise money to beat Lamont, and Republican Alan Schlesinger. Before Lamont won the primary, when Lieberman was still a Democrat, Boxer stumped for Lieberman. She was asked how she could support him given that Lieberman supports hospitals which are receiving public monies refusing to give contraceptives to rape victims. And instead of dropping her support of Lieberman, instread of dropping him like the bad character he is, she dodged the issue.
During the Bush-Cheney administration during the greatest assaults on women’s right to choose took place (including Congress’s passage of legislation banning “partial birth abortion”), Boxer wrote two murder mysteries, because “It was always something I wanted to do if I had the time.”
In the 2010 midterm campaign, I asked rhetorically, “If Republicans win back control of Congress, do you think Democrats will be as effective at stymieing Republicans’ agenda as Republicans have been the last two years at stymieing Obama’s/Democrats’ 2008 agenda?”
Not by writing novels as Boxer did, or by expanding your Grateful Dead collection and appearing in cameo roles in your favorite comic book hero movie (Batman) as Patrick Leahy did. All on the public’s dime, while collecting government salaries.
And we’re just talking about the pro-choice plank of the party’s platform.
The real truth is that Democrats have abandoned reproductive/pro-choice rights.
The Democratic Party is out of the business of being pro-choice because it’s trying to turn the Democratic Party into the old Republican Party, grow the Democratic Party by attracting into the party anybody it can. It hasn’t actually announced it publicly, but it only goes through the motions of seeming to be champions of women’s reproductive choice. When it comes to actually championing the issue, Democratic politicians are AWOL, not only at the top, at the party organization, but absent also are the politicians whose talk as women’s champions don’t match the walk.
You can’t have anti-choice politicians in the Democratic Party, receiving money and support from the Democratic Party’s members and the party’s machinery, when the platform of the party clearly states that Democrats “unequivocally support Roe v. Wade and a woman’s right to choose a safe and legal abortion, regardless of ability to pay, and oppose any and all efforts to weaken or undermine that right”.
Just about all professional Democratic politicians want to make the Democratic party hospitable to anti-choice people (and all ‘other siders’ of the Democratic Party’s different special interest groups), as noted in this article from 12/04.
The only way to do that is for the party to not take a stance on abortion, to remove any reference to ‘choice’. During Howard Dean’s tenure as chairman of the DNC, he indicated in several interviews that the intent was to move the Democratic Party from referring to abortion at all in its platform. Here’s one of those interviews, from 11/1/05: Video | Transcript
January 14, 2005 – Dems May Waver on Choice, Repro Rights
What happens when leftists instead of liberals come to power? A review of history shows they starve and impoverish the masses, imprison dissidents, run slave-labor factories where suicide is rampant, and execute union organizers.
So, yeah, love me; I’m a liberal.
Not that much different from the use of electric power to replace water power in factories and the invention of the assembly line process. Also added to the 1920s mix is the deploying of Frederick Taylor’s scientific management. Massive burst in productivity, profits sucked out to monopolistic owners (Edison, Ford) instead of bureaucratic chief executive officers and executives.
Thanks. Given my background in IT, that should have occurred to me.
That is true of a lot of what were considered to be (and still are by the Wall Street media) core Democratic policies – choice, environment,….
Two things happened. The Republican Party radically purged itself of its minority of pro-choice, pro-environment, … officials. And the exponential growth in corporate-based campaign contributions bought off both parties politician by politician, making party discipline on the Democratic side almost impossible compared to the days when DNC funds made up the bulk of campaign finance.
And playing against stereotype became a way of a politician signaling their independence from the party: thus Bob Casey.
Superb insights, TD, spot on!
DW
Excellent addition to TD’s comment @32, rc.
DW
Well, except in Scandinavia, France, England, and so on.
This is an important point. You add the failure of the Democratic party to deal with the second dimension of Poole and Rosenthal’s work, the cultural issues.
With the single exception of LGBT rights, the Democrats have run to the right, both at whatever passes for their institutional level, and in the case of specific votes.
Ya got me! Those countries stop short of communism.
I hope that you might consider writing a diary, marcospinelli, upon this topic, as it deseves a far broader exposure at FDL.
You have laid bare the poverty and the cowardice of the Care-less, care-free Party on one of its signature “issues”, and you have done so with equisite precision.
A diary, please.
DW
I agree with TarHeelDem: both parties are imploding. As an example, look at the weak articles where the Republican Establishment is said to be supporting Mitt. They get attributed quotes from Ken Duberstein, and everyone else is anonymous. That’s because they have little control anymore. The Democrats have no organization to speak of today.
If you look on their website, there is only a list of leaders, not a single worker. Here’s the list:
Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Chair
Donna Brazile, Vice Chair of Voter Registration & Participation
R.T. Rybak, Vice Chair
Linda Chavez-Thompson, Vice Chair
Rep. Mike Honda, Vice Chair
Raymond Buckley, Vice Chair, ASDC President
Alice Germond, Secretary
Andrew Tobias, Treasurer
Jane Stetson, National Finance Chair
Figureheads. If it weren’t for the campaign operations of Obama, there would be nothing significant.
You’d hate it there, especially France, especially Paris. Please don’t go.
So it is possible then, npl?
Let us dare be bold when contemplating a sustainable, humane and decent civil society and ennumerate those values and principles necessary to realizing the same.
DW
You sound like Brer Rabbit, masaccio.
Not Paris!!! Oh noes!
;~DW
My take on politics in general (with a system like ours) is that they are always controlled by special interests. What made the Democrats more useful to the middle class in earlier decades was that the party’s biggest patron was organized labor. Thus, when the labor unions were at their most powerful (the 1940′s, 50′s, 60′s), the Democrats controlled Congress for over 30 years and even Republican administrations were much more moderate than the Democratic ones have been since the 1990′s.
This began to change in the 1970′s when right-to-work laws began to be passed in many of the states. The decline of union membership as a percentage of the private sector labor force greatly accelerated. Republicans became more powerful and the right-wing of the Democratic party (the likes of Bill Clinton and Barack Obama) became dominant.
What do we have now? A radical Republican party and a Democratic administration and congressional caucus that are almost completely made up of moderate conservatives. Both the unions and the middle class have been largely abandoned by Democratic politicians, except to defend the existence of public sector unions in order to still collect their campaign contributions.
The best way to achieve those goals is to embrace liberal ideals, not socialism.
Here’s something for you liberal. Now go take a flying phuck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLqKXrlD1TU
Please! Obviously you know nothing of history other than what you’ve been told to believe. The ignorance of the U.S. public never disappoints.
That makes sense. I think the unions also lost strength in the Democratic party because of their staunch defense of the war in Viet Nam, and their refusal to back Civil Rights. That happened at a time when more and more liberals were getting jobs in management, so their interest aligned with their employers instead of with union ranks. There are other factors as well.
All those examples are on point, but the instancy of communication and control made possible by the tech revolution is of several magnitudes greater in potential for establishing and maintaining centralized control, I would argue. My point being that the parameters for measuring the extent of the changes made possible by this “advance” should also be expected to be greater and more elastic. IOW, the sky’s the limit.
I’ll ignore both your link and your juvenile taunt.
I am making a distinction between support among registered Democrats and elected Democrats. Remember that it was a Democratic president who first intervened in Vietnam (Kennedy) and another Democratic president (LBJ) with the support of most Democrats in Congress who expanded that intervention with over 500,000 deployed troops. So there was no love lost for the unions by elected Democrats over this issue.
I’m too young to remember the union position on civil rights in the 1950′s and 1960′s, but to my knowledge unions have been supportive of civil rights in recent history. However, from what I’ve read, some locals were racist during the civil rights struggles while many others contributed to breaking down racial barriers.
The bottom line is that the politicians respond to the power of money. As the unions declined, so did the support from politicians for their interests.
There are a lot of 19th century American socialists who would (were they alive) be totally baffled by this assertion.
I don’t know why I should care about how baffled 19th century socialists would be. Please explain.
Socialist ideals were liberal ideals.
I think there would be some 19th century liberals and socialists alike who would be baffled by that statement.
Liberalism has always stood for free enterprise, meritocracy and upward mobility. It has also always stood for justice and practicality. That’s why you’d be hard pressed to find liberals who would support laissez-faire economics. Even the 18th century liberal Adam Smith, the grandfather of free market economic theory, thought that the banks needed to be tightly regulated, as did 20th century liberal economist John Maynard Keynes.
Liberals have, going back to the beginning of this country, been wary of the concentration of economic power and favored reasonable economic regulation–but not to the point of socialism. Dishonest Republicans (is that redundant?) try to conflate the two because they view any form of economic regulation in the public interest as “socialism.” That’s because they support the monopolization of power and wealth. (Liberals support estate taxes. Republicans are opposed to the “death tax.”) The truth is that socialism and liberalism are two very different philosophies.
I was planning to put up a clever post, but you beat me to the punch.
Sure Democrats have an ideology. Currently it’s: “We’re now the moderate Republicans because all the mainstream Republicans lost their fucking minds and we lost our balls.”
Great link. I hate “liberals” or more exactly “fake limousine liberals”. Although this is just term definition war, it seems “liberal” has been stunk up by association with fore mentioned worthless lying hypocritical self-serving DemocRatic Party politicians.
To associate Left/Leftist/Socialist with authoritarian communism sounds like someone is listening to too much Rush and Fox.
The problem I notice when reading the comments above, and the article itself about the Democratic Party, is that there are some fundamental errors that are being made generally, that make this subject confused.
First of all we have to determine whether people know the difference between ideology and affiliation. Ideology in this case is either liberal or conservative and affiliation is to do with who and why type of people you have always been associated with. So if you are a black person then you might be affiliated with the Democrats yet be ideologically conservative. Or if you are white caucasian, then you might be affiliated with the Republicans yet ideologically be a liberal.
To be a liberal, you have to swing that way intellectually. This position was a political tool to make fascism fashionable so that people could be brainwashed. So to be liberal is basically wanting to be brainwashed into becoming a slave to the oligarchs. It is a diabolical tool. So it’s a nono. Then being a conservative is basically being A Zionist, someone who is part of the Jewish lobby, and who hate JESUS more than anything. This is contrary to what most self styled conservative think, because if you asked them they most likely would describe themselves as Christian. So you can begin to see that these terms are very misleading and the thing to cling to if you don’t want to go nuts is to cling to the Constitution for dear life. The principles that are embodied in the Constitution are to have a sovreign republic that is governed in such a manner that it is to promote the general welfare of We the People. Meaning in the truest sense, to provide a platform for the citizens that allow them to be what they were created to be, in the image of God, that is creative beings. In the highest possible sense.
So unless you are consciously working to become as much like the image of God as possible, then you have missed the point of being a member of the human species. Which leads to the confusion I described just now. The oligarchical principle is diametrically opposed to the intention that caused for the War of Independence to be fought, and the creation of the US Constitution. The best examples in recent history of presidents that understood this were FDR and JFK. So rather than worry about the Democrats as they are today, study JFK and FDR and get your congressman or woman to follow in their footsteps. Get rid of anyone who isn’t in tune with the Constitution and who will not exhibit the courage that FDR and KFK exhibited.
OK Fine – stop telling us stuff we already know. I want to know how are we going to CHANGE it. The Occupy Movement is bringing awareness to the people but the the Parties & media are locked into this election circus for the next year. I know the only choice I have is to hold my nose & vote for the lesser of the 2 evils (Obama) but I want someone – anyone on the left to challenge him. But we won’t, because the other alternative – 4 years of a Rethug- is too terrifying to contemplate.
I just want to give up. Does anyone see any hope for this country?
Voting for the lesser evil is how we got here. If you don’t like what we have now, stop voting for the lesser evil. Take your chances with a different strategy. Any different strategy. Shake things up, and you may like some of the results of the shake-up. Stay with the same old strategy, and you are choosing the same old results.