At the moment, I’m hearing from my friends in the north that they’re having the guilty pleasures of global warming. Springlike weather means bike riding in Milwaukee, getting out of doors in the ‘dead’ of winter in Halifax, and here it’s about leaving the windows open. My local forecasters are expressing glee, while warning that we will probably pay for it in the summer. I think we already paid for it last summer, which broke all records.
There are things I luckily am spared, but hear that there’s a quality of craving that makes some of us go overboard while we know we’re going to pay for it later. That extra drink, of which I am occasionally a partaker, that Stuff we can’t afford but really, really want. The gambler tries just one more time, already mulling over what the pawnshop might offer for a treasure that really belongs on a shelf safe in the home.
What I overdo is sometimes really good food, sometimes the extra drink, or two, and even keeping at a bit of hard work when my old bones and muscles are saying “Stop.” Yep, even carrying that load up the back stairs when I knew it was stupid, and falling on my noggin. Guilty it was, pleasure it was not. Now I’m determinedly making myself pick up only the easy amount to carry when I’m carrying things in or out, and reminding myself how easy it would have been to hurt myself really badly when there was no one around to help.
Do you have some good way of pulling back from the edge?Sometimes the guilty pleasure is saying things you didn’t mean, to hurt some one, and that’s something else that we’re lucky if we don’t have a constitution that enjoys bullying. Most of us here are a different sort, which is quite likely why it’s good to visit here at FDL.
That there are another kind, I think we’ve all experienced. They seem to be those commenters we read here and on other blogs, that try to get under the skins of the one who posted, and/or the commenters they pretend to join in with. Trolls may or may not feel guilty later, but they do seem to have that need that pushes someone to attract hostilities.
Guilty pleasure is a good thing to some extent, and that exquisite meal, the hours spent soaking up sun and scenery when I should have been having the porch repairs starting, well, maybe life is about more than doing what we ought to all the time.
Do you have a favorite way to spend your time that sometimes gets in the way of sensible, necessary things? You all know mine is travel to incredible places. I guess I try to make up for too much fun sometimes by overdoing the stuff I ought to. What are your ways of redeeming yourself when you have so much fun it makes you feel guilty?





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Nice topic….I surely delay some of the needed things…like straightening the mess, just no fun/let it go….for diversion…staying with the newspaper and Suduko can take plenty of very pleasant time. At least it’s not fattening….
Good morning, friends! Nice post, Ruth.
I try to never feel guilty about indulging myself. But then, I’m not prone to “too much” (mostly). I may have an extra drink or an extra serving of some dish I particularly like. I may spend too much on something occasionally. But I don’t do penance.
RevBev, how is Angela? Still holding on?
Hey, good morning, Ruth, Bev
I want to say Screw Guilt, but I also believe that guilt is kind of like Jiminy Cricket. Always let your conscience be your guide.
Learning to forgive myself when I over do is one of the hardest things for me to do.
PS on edit – and hey there to Molly too.
Snow in June………
Huh?
My guilty pleasures can be fattening, too. Have the cheesecake?
Hope Angela is well.
Yes, holding on, thanks….Sleeping alot….but eating, esp. if I feed her. And also losing weight….Im just watching….to take her back to the vet anytime.
Thanks, and you obviously have balance. It’s going out of balance sometimes that makes me feel guiltiest. It’s not a huge problem, but does happen.
Thanks…getting most of my attention, it seems.
Good point, we have to forgive ourselves. Probably that is a rein on the excess, too, as we know what we do and don’t forgive.
True, that’s something of a payback. But can’t remember seeing it here in N.TX. May, yes.
Ruth –
Why do you think people come to a blog and try to get under the posters nerves? Power tripping? Sharing the misery?
Cleocatra wants some of that.
It varies, and Peasant Party turned up ads for pay to people for disrupting leftie threads at one time. But it does seem to take a particularly disagreeable/intolerant temperament.
Including extremists and/or “Im smarter than you are….” Interesting question. And often just hit & run.
I hadn’t heard about those ads, but I remember Jane and others commenting about that. The thing is, by disrupting a conversation, they also cause some to dig their heels in more.
Talk about empathy/symbiosis, atrios just posted on his bizarre commenters.
Yep. Hit and runners and also those who stay and stay and keep pushing.
Just for fun, I’m going to go snag a troll bingo card. brb.
In some cases it may be the same juvenile delight that makes kids cause a ruckus in their family. They just get off on causing turmoil and watching the reaction. Some kids grow out of it as they mature. Some never do.
Troll Bingo
Do you think there is a bully attitude that is a contribution?
Both Paul Krugman and Glenn Greenwald have posted recently about the comments they’ve gotten, even from fellow pundits.
Yes. I am not a psychologist, but my uneducated opinion is that some of that behavior reflects insecurity.
My former daughter-in-law was very insecure and overly sensitive to any perceived criticism…and she put down others constantly. She even disparaged my daughter — to ME.
I might add, though, that we are often too quick to label someone with a different opinion from the “conventional wisdom” at FDL, who defends that opinion clearly and civilly, a troll. I dislike that, too.
There is a lot of immaturity in the trolls I’ve encountered, indeed.
I think you’re right, and I’m no shrink either.
But, why would she disparage your daughter to you? That’s just dumb.
They want to indulge in some sort of anonymous form of bigotry. The, I’m better than you, which says you don’t care how you’re viewed by others. Or they are really that clueless.
Wonderful. I can use that too.
Out here we often say; “It’s something in the water”, when people get really bizarre.
Hmmmn. Anonymous form of bigotry is an interesting theory.
Hmmmmmmm, some more.
It’s also about being untouchable. When you’re anonymous you can feel like it’s time to really let loose, no consequences.
If you google troll bingo, there are also some very specific troll cards that come up.
For anyone who missed it, there was a troll sort who kept posting booster comments for Ron Paul last week at the Lakeside Diner, and was then being boorish with us all.
I just loved the way Southern Dragon dealth with that person. Seriously, I laughted out loud several times. Guy just cracks me up.
Because putting my daughter down must have made her feel better about herself.
I think sometimes it takes a person a while to find their “voice”. Sometimes newbies come across more harsh than they want to.
Yeah, I guess, but that’s just sad. I guess she didn’t think it through. Feeling better about herself for what, a few minutes, but it must have hurt you for longer. Hard to come back from that kind of mess.
He was riled, and should have been. It takes real nastiness to go onto a site and pick a fight with the host, any host.
Kevin’s LONG analysis yesterday about a person challenging establishment cadidates in elections drew a ton of commenters (including some regulars) who IN MY OPINION were unable to distinguish Kevin’s points because of their overarching distaste for Ron Paul. I argued for awhile and then gave up and went to bed. I’m not sure I saw any trolls, but the debate got heated.
The Confines of US Elections & the Scorn a Person Can Face for Challenging Them
It is a very long post, but worth reading.
Morning Ruth and firepups!
Interesting topic ’bout guilty pleasures; I’ve been blessed with a family that always worked hard and played hard without guilt and lots of laughter.
However, very guilty of too much drink, food and smoking, etc. but hangover, alkaseltzer and coughing seemed to do the balance for delagating to the past w/o guilt.
I’m amazed that you would consider travel a guilty pleasure! It is well earned nourishment for your soul, education for your mind, and an afirmation of your links to the human community as well as for observation of the wonders that this planet has to offer.
The world would be much better for every
one if travel was a part of their education.
karen
plus: like education and work experience, travel remains “in your memory banks” to the end so fill them up!
The sorta grownup version of “I’m going to tell”.
I sort of came to ignore it, mostly. Occasionally I challenged it. She also put down my son-in-law on a regular basis. She probably put ME down when I wasn’t around. So be it.
Good morning, Pups. Thank you for this, Ruth. I usually lurk, though I
check in here a few times each day when I can.
I think we beat up on ourselves too much and we don’t realize that feelings of guilt just add misery to our already stressed lives. A few years ago I
learned to let the Guilt go and just use it as a lesson. Holiday shopping used to wreck my budget every year, so I gave it up. Of course this is easier when the kids are grown.
Anyhow, what takes possession of us about a month before the winter solstice each year that drives us into a shopping frenzy? (It affects women earlier than men; the men don’t get this bug until after the solstice, so I’ve noticed!!)
Thanks, it’s a choice I make. But like all the good times, it does mean things that don’t get done. I like your attitude, though!
Glad you dropped in! I guess it depends on how you handle the urge. Going into debt over your head is not the right way, but eating beans and rice is good for you.
I’m wondering if Jealousy is involved with that.
Now I am dealing with my grandson on a sort of related issue. He’s 18, and I think in that crowd “gay” is a put-down. I’ve called him on it before, including cautioning that college admissions folks might read Facebook posts of their applicants. I know it’s common for hiring, not sure about college.
Anyway, his latest was “I am definitely gay.” on his Facebook status. So I posted a message admonishing him. His reply was, “My friend posted that.” So of course I responded. He’s a good kid, and he’s not gay (as far as I know, and it wouldn’t matter to me anyway), so I’m trying to get across the insensitivity of posting something like that.
I try not to post on his wall or reply in comments, because I don’t want him to feel that Grandma is looking over his shoulder, but…
I think you’re right. SD is some one most of us would like to be.
I’m not a teacher. But I enjoy teaching. This all falls under topics and events that involve being outdoors. Hunter/gatherer/farmer stuff. My guilty pleasure always comes when I see you have learned.
Don’t feed the trolls! Favorite phrase on all blogs.
We have some other incredibly nice and smart hosts too. Ruth!
And…..scroll. :)
I’m glad that seeing others learn makes you happy. You fit right in here.
But, is right on. If a person goes on a social network, they are fair game I’m pretty sure. And, it’s good of you to point out what you did. I hope he hears you.
Here is one totally incompetent student when it comes to using an atlatl; my hands are deadly weapons, aimed at myself.
(The spudtruck brings along some terrific handmade native weaponry.)
Thanks, it’s the inspiration of having a great group joining in.
Yup. And, I’m sitting here wondering where a good number of our great group is this morning. Maybe they’ll show up later.
You wrote a great post and this is an interesting conversation.
I thank ya with all my heart.
We don’t want anyone getting up too early, this must have been a good one for sleeping in. Recovery is good.
Thanks so much.
Good morning, everyone. Good tidings to you all for the new year; it’s going to be ‘interesting times’ this year.
Good morning, pupses and thank you, Ruth.
Hi demi and all, one of the good number of the missing group, reporting :) I think we are sleeping later here on the weekends in order to catch up after the holidays. I’ve missed a lot of PUAC and Diner friends over the past couple of weeks with family being home and altered schedules.
Hey there, cutie.
I’ve got a pot of cream of wheat on the stove. Want some?
Hey back at you, and thanks for the offer. Cream of Wheat is such a nice memory from childhood. My former DIL used always to call it Wheat of Cream, I loved that. Just came out that way, always, and we would laugh together about it.
Speaking of oatmeal….
That is a very deep compliment, and deserved. I have such respect for him.
Ruth! Pups! g’morning, all.
I’m lucky i hate shopping, so i don’t have the overspend-at-the-holidays guilt. I do bake way too many cookies, and have christmas cookies for breakfast until early january when they are gone. And i don’t feel one bit guilty about that!
My guilty pleasure is staying up all night reading a new & good sci-fi book. Doesn’t happen too often, because there’s a lot of mediocre books out there, but i have learned that i cannot put down a new book by certain authors. So i choose the night wisely (ie, don’t have to be at work the next day) and indulge.
I think attendance has fallen off since the holidays, even here and the Diner. I know I’m not spending as much time here, but mainly because I have this paying gig that expects about 20 hours a week and it’s cutting into my blog time. I wind up catching up with missed posts and comments in the evening.
And I suspect folks are weary and need to regroup before the election frenzy cranks up for real. There’s only so much rage and fury one can take before having to calm down and chill. It’s true for me, at least.
It’s funny, pecular not ha ha, but I like to put walnuts and or apple chunks or raisens in my oatmeal. But, I always take my Wheat of Cream straight up.
Good morning, spudtruckowner. I have missed out on a few PUACs lately, and don’t know much about your history. Could you fill me in?
minx!
‘Fraid you are spot on. Hopefully there will be some balance, something Occupy has begun to promise a regular supply of.
ms molly @ #24
Yes! the only times I’ve had “a hard time” with co-workers or supervisors is when they were insecure and/or had risen to incompetency. i.e. the gop field of candidates is an excellent example.
In fact, insecurity is probably the basis of the “fundamentalist – domination” attitude of many that aquire power anywhere/anytime throughout history to present.
The truely great leaders help others reach their potential with respect rather than standing on them to appear tall.
karen
I like oatmeal, and eat it a couple times a week (one minute in the micro, stir in brown sugar and milk), but I never could stand cream of wheat. I have no idea why, but I couldn’t, and probably wouldn’t even try it now.
Well pups, it’s been fun, but I’m off to the Farmer’s market to get some wonderful goats milk soap to send my daughter. Might get myself some, too.
See you all laterz…
msmolly, for how long will you be working on this project, do you think?
It’s good to see you when you get by here, and welcome. Sleeping in is a guilty pleasure, fits right in!
Enjoy.
Agree, Karen. It’s no fun when it’s family or coworkers you have to see every day, especially if one happens to be in a position of authority over you.
My eyes give out when I try, usually, but there is a luxurious feeling about just staying up and reading on and on. and on.
In considering excess, I think Aristotle’s golden mean, as with most matters, offers good guidance.
Daedalus, in his warning to Icarus, captured th wisdom of the golden mean well.
“I warn you, Icarus, to fly in a middle course, lest, if you go too low, the water may weight your wings; if you go too high, the fire may burn them. Fly between the two.”
I would point out that no peas or olives were harmed in the creation of this breakfast.
Several weeks. My former employer (Notre Dame’s information technology division) is moving its website to a new platform, and they’re revising pages, deleting or combining some, reorganizing, etc.
I have enough technical knowledge to spot errors, and I’m a good writer and editor (not meaning to brag, I just am). So I am engaged in reviewing pages and rewriting or editing content, chasing after technical issues, and trying to make stuff the techies write understandable for non-technical readers.
I’m hired for about 20 hours a week (I can make my own schedule) until the job is done. I can work from home except for an occasional meeting. Sometimes a page doesn’t need much work, but other times I can spend an hour or more. And I’m a nitpicker, so I edit my own edits. GAH.
Yes, and I saw your previous comment about weariness. I think that you are correctamundo, Molly.
Thank you, it is always good to see you pupses, and your topics are always interesting and thought provoking.
I am going to hop off here and start on the tree. One of my non-guilty pleasures is collecting old glass ornaments. It takes ages to put up and take down the tree because I love to hold them and marvel at the beauty and craftsmanship.
Best of weekends to all of you!
ohmmm
Just a hit and run today. Can’t talk much, being at work.
Good morning!
You’re fabulous. A very right on comment.
Have a good day, Moll.
I think they selected the right person for the job!
So glad you stopped in. Do you keep in touch with Neko from work?
A good reminder.
Just another person with a PC and an opinion. Washes opinion daily. Heh.
Cute.
I’m jealous that you get to be a hands on friend of Ruth.
Pegster. Overtime? I’m happy things have turned around for you.
Thrilled, really.
No antibacterial soap :)
Didn’t want to go in case you responded. See you guys later!
That’s sweet. He’s in PA, but we’ve both been going to our friends’ farm in MO, that I’ve mentioned here before. It’s a good place where good people get together.
Bed and breakfast, Missouri style. Ya gotta love it.
OK you caught me.
I was going to just sit and read all your sage advise and call it a morning.
I like the price, too!
Well, fine. I’m just leaving. But, I’ll see you around.
Hmph. You left out the rosemary and thyme.
You and your lame jokes. :)
Thanks for the company and all, Ruth.
Out to the hoop house with me then.
Up late with several data bases that needed serious clean-up after merging.
Coffee has not reached my desk, yet. Back in a flash.
As you all know, give me a chance to make a lame joke and I cannot resist. Another guilty pleasure.
Thanks, demi, your respectful comments put you in the “great leader” category ;o)
Now, I’m off for my guilt-free pleasure: NPR cartalk and wait, wait.
Thanks, Ruth, for another stimulating PUAC!
karen
Be demi and never stop. A great day to you!
Mornin’, pups
Nice chilly day to sleep in, until Mojo decided he’d waited long enough for brekkie. Spoiled rotten kids.
Thanks for dropping by, all of you. What a dismal day it would be without this crew.
Thanks Ruth, another great diary, gently kick-starting my thoughts this morning.
Other appointments to keep.
Peace and resolve.
Anyone want to take an 82 year old out for groceries? This will not be a guilty pleasure.
Would that be you? ;-)
Been there, cherish it.
I’d love to but it’s a long drive from central Florida. *g*
Well the weather here is also warmer and we are already paying for it. Snow levels on Mt Hood is about 50″ and dropping, 30″ less than last year (when it was also dropping, although it did pick up later)
Actually, it’s his mom. And he’s very good about it.
You just heard your name being bandied about upthread didn’t you? Good things were said, because they were true.
We in N.TX. paid this summer for having balmy winters. It was horrible.
Staying with Suduko and the news – sounds like you have the same favorite diversions as my wife!
Great topic – Twelfth Day/Fiesta de los Tres Rejes/Epiphany was always a big deal with a “cleaning out” via the community making a large pile of Xmas trees and having a bonfire and picnic in the evening. Ruth’s pleasure in travel is also one our joys, but much less so as we became less mobile. We are nowadays more into spudtruckowner’s idea of going out for groceries!
:-)
No not me. The local matriarch. I do cherish it. Just hate walking that slowly.
I’m a reasonable boy so, yes you get a rain check.
A bonfire with the trees would be terrific. I gave up on putting up a tree long ago, though. Today the tinsel comes out of the windows.
I well remember the extensive fires. OTOH, Texas isn’t exactly known for great summers either. But that’s no rationale!
Mount Hood was the first mountain I had ever seen. Took about three hours to get over the aww. Oregon is somewhere I shall return to. Soon.
I saw that and have to thank everybody for the kind words but I have given a lot of thought to what I’m gonna do when I get to that age. Gonna need some help I don’t need now and it ain’t that far off.
It’s still dry. This one was record breaking. Of course, everything seems to be that level, now.
It’s a favorite playground, and honestly, from a boy growing up in Chicago, I still marvel at the sight of that peak rising from the surrounding forests, which, of course, would not be there had the mountains not.
There is much to love and cherish here. And if one ever get’s bored with Mt. Hood, well the gods offer a full plate of treasures.
I do recall, we’ve established that you even have a couple of years on me, and I’m definitely taking more care about what I strain to do, these days.
I believe the Kiowas rather avoided the summer panhandle for parts cooler as well. But then, migration seems to be built into the human soul.
I had friends who lived in Bend before it became a big ski resort. Nice place to live in those days. Guy around the corner had a worm farm.
I suspect I’m even further up that chain, Ruth. It’s not so bad. Beats the alternative, at least for the moment!
The plains tribes knew not to stay in one place and invite disease and famine.
Bend is now in bad financial straits. And South Sister is showing a growing bulge. (It’s a puny 10,000′ peak. Mt. Hood is 11,243′ or so)
I spent a couple of weeks up the Molalla river. Found some gold, had daughters dog with me. No big foot sightings though the sign at the end of the road said they frequently cross here. Darn.
Still amazed that I actually made it to retirement and can still do a lot. This is good, at least now.
There is much to admire about the ways of the Native Americans of those times.
The Choctaw have a very profitable gambling business here, and put much of those funds into community service and conservation – good ways, indeed.
I have a photograph of a huge foot in soft earth. I suspect it was a plant as only one foot can be seen and looking around for the second found nothing. It was as if the owner of that foot dropped to earth on one foot and sprang back to the heavens.
Indian casinos proliferate in Oregon. I suspect that they are still trying to outsmart and outfight the whites for territorial possession!
That was my assumption and I’m sorry if my words seemed to indicate otherwise.
I was so used to getting to the store on senior day each week that I still find myself getting my groceries on the same day. I make it a point to try to make eye contact and to say hello and to smile.
Small pleasures for sure, for me.
Ruth, one of my not so guilty pleasures is bring off cooking with aplomb. Tossing off a memorable dish by merely looking at the larder then inventing is so rewarding, and I don’t have to necessarily repeat myself. One-of-a-kind cooking.
Well, should I feel guilty not recording what I just did? Should I feel guilty improvising at the piano and not able to repeat that?
Nah!
Some people just aren’t that creative I guess.
Pretty soon, you are the senior on senior day. My very first senior day was a bit weird, to say the least. But I took it!
Your later years are made to order to discover just how creative you can be, and it’s synergistic. The more you do, the more you can do, until the body says enough.
It still makes me worry a little bit when someone doesn’t even ask, just gives me the senior citizen discount.
That is a Catch-22!
That’s definitely a guilty pleasure that’s well earned. I’m that old school that telling about things I’m proud of is really hard, as you realized.
Was referring to the single track.
My body says no on a daily basis and I’m only 60. Of course previous installments of beat yourself over the head doesn’t help matters.
I’m closing in on it.
LOL.
Have myself presentable for the general public here, and I’m moving on out.
Off to make coffee and feed the animals.
Bebacksoon.