
Blueberry Ricotta Pancakes
The coffee’s freshly ground, there’s a wide variety of teas and the sticky buns are homemade.
Economic offerings. The administration will attempt to convince us that we’re looking better on the economic front. They’re gonna need a huge dump truck if they wanna spread that horseshit around.
- “Tax cuts for low and middle-income families in April will be dwarfed by hidden reductions in tax credits, according to a study for The Independent. The analysis found that the £1bn of tax cuts in April will be outweighed by reductions of more than £2.5bn in the complex tax-credit scheme. Most of the cuts to credits, which top up the wages of low-income families in work, will take effect from April and could catch families unaware.”
- “The European Central Bank (ECB) has reported receiving record cash deposits of 412bn euros (£344bn; $539bn). The total beat the previous record of 384bn euros set in June 2010. The rising usage of the ECB deposit facility since the summer reflects nervousness among Europe’s banks about lending the money to each other.”
- “‘The bond markets don’t like this, the bond markets don’t like that.’ As the euro zone’s sovereign debt crisis has raced out of control in the last few months the ‘bond markets’ likes and dislikes have become a journalistic cliche. But is the market for European sovereign debt really a monolith with a mind capable of liking or disliking anything?”
- “Albemarle & Bond today hailed ‘the age of the pawnbroker’ as it unveiled plans to create 300 jobs by opening 25 new stores next year. The group, which has 169 stores and 38 gold-buying ‘pop-up’ shops, said it will take advantage of lower high street rents to open the outlets in 2012. Albemarle said it has benefited as banks tightened their lending criteria, ‘failing to provide people with straightforward and inexpensive ways to borrow’.”
Had enough on teh economy?
- “Thousands of Israelis have rallied in the town of Beit Shemesh against ultra-Orthodox Jewish extremism. The protest follows two days of clashes after an eight-year-old girl said she had been harassed on her way to school. Some ultra-Orthodox in Beit Shemesh are seeking to segregate men and women.” Gee, isn’t this what Muslims are vilified for? What is it with these patriarchal fenderheads, no matter what faith they call their own?
- “Although the Serbian parliament guaranteed the country’s LGBT citizens protection in 2009 by passing the hard-won Anti-Discrimination Law, gay Serbs say their day-to-day reality is a nightmarish diversion from that egalitarian legislation.”
- “Peaceful, laid-back, green-minded Costa Rica has long been an oasis in an otherwise-tough neighborhood — the ‘Switzerland of Central America,’ as the country’s tourism boosters like to boast. One Costa Rican security expert said that when his colleagues travel on business to El Salvador or Honduras, they say they’re going to ‘Central America,’ as if their own country weren’t even part of the isthmus.” President Laura Chinchilla on the drug-cartel threat to Central America’s “pura vida” state.
- Glenzilla. “American presidential elections are increasingly indistinguishable from the reality TV competitions drowning the nation’s airwaves. Both are vapid, personality-driven and painfully protracted affairs, with the winners crowned by virtue of their ability to appear slightly more tolerable than the cast of annoying rejects whom the public eliminates one by one.”
- From Real News: “America Beyond Capitalism. Gar Alperovitz describes a model that challenges private monopoly ownership without a powerful bureaucratic state.”
The truth will set you free but first it will piss you off.
Update: Me Tarzan, you Jane. Cheetah has gone to Rainbow Bridge.



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Mornin’, pups. Now that’s an order of pancakes.
It surely is…looks fantastic…Another pretty good Angela day…eating and sleeping well. Thanks for so much guidance and kindness here.
Good news.
(((RevBev and Angela)))
SD: You do a very nice job with this morning summary. You should get a raise.
I agree. Or, at least a day off.
SD, take Saturday off.
I don’t know how you do it, Dragon, I really don’t.
Good morning all.
x2
Good morning all and thanks for the post and host SoDrag. You sure do find some worthy news stories. Appreciate it.
Thanks….We’re out….One of us is a working girl…Have a good one.;)
wbgonne and oldnslow.
Thanks. I just scan the foreign press for stuff I don’t think gets covered here in our corporate media.
I know the feeling. Can’t get a one of ‘em to even think about applyin’ for a job.
Oh yeah, ‘Dragon, “fenderhead”. Good word. Makes me think of fenders on a boat. You know, the squishy cylindrical things you hang over the side so the boat doesn’t bang into the dock. Pretty good description of the lump
somemostall of our leaders have 3 feet above their ass.{{{RevBev & Angela}}}
I’m kinda suprised that Germany allowed what is a de facto ECB bailout of Eurpoes banks. I guess there’s enough to hide behind and claim it’s not really a bailout. The bailout has had positive effects, but IMO we’ll be right back here in about 4 months. Sooner, if an American Bank *cough* BofA *cough* gets into trouble that can no longer be papered over.
I’m also impressed that Serbia treats it’s gays worse than America treats ours. I’m starting to think somebody needs to treat gays as political refugees. I’d suggest America, based on that outdated inscription of the Statue of Liberty, but I know better. *sigh*
I’d like to suggest that we do American elections like Survivor. Just make the challenges more political. Use Gitmo as the Island, they should get used to it. Every week, we vote someone off the island. Unlike the real Survivor, we’ll need a plan to keep the candidates OUT of swimsuits. That’s important.
Boxturtle (First challenge: Insure everybody is fed and housed.)
Pretty sad we must go to other countries to find real news. But there it is.
The term comes from the Navy, where they make boat fenders out of 1″ Manila line. *g* When “Boats” calls ya a fenderhead you know you’re in trouble for fuckin’ somethin’ up.
Or, heaven forbid, help cleaning up around the place.
Closest I got was to have doggyboy do the prerinse on the frying pan I used to cook burgers last night.
It works well. And your efforts are MUCH enjoyed.
Boxturtle (if not for you, I’d have to be shooting an ugly dump right now)
I’m not sure I understand what is going on in Europe. Why has Italy’s bond yield dropped precipitously? Who is buying the debt? Is it the Eurobanks purchasing now with ECB money?
We don’t have to go to other countries. American news has everything you need to know about Lindsey Lohan, Miley Cyrus, and Snooki.
Boxturtle (What more do we need?)
As much as it seems like we enjoy complaining about our country, and there are oh so many reasons to do so, yes there are countries that treat part of the population worse than we do. And, that includes how women are treated.
First segment on democracynow is some novelist. Now I know why fiction is WAY over my pay grade.
Good to know I was thinking of the correct fender. Sailors have such an endearing way with the language.
Thanks, SD. Costa Rica also has great health care. It taxes folks to give them good services like that, which is increasingly proving to be the way the public gets government serving them, not the wealthy.
(((Bev and Angela))) Great news.
Morning all
Wonderful news, RevBev. Hugs and scritches to you both…well, I suspect you don’t want the scritches.
Good morning everyone. This diner seems to be open all day and well into the evening. Quite the gathering spot!
I’ve been reading that “economy is recovering” stuff all over the past few days. I don’t believe a word of it.
Are those other countries empires that consider themselves to have manifest destiny to interfere in everyone’s business.
Can’t argue with that. The U.S. is good on equal protection. Not so good on due process, among other things. It is liberalism’s legacy.
How analyst-spokespersons for large financial institutions (look who gets interviewed) establish a narrative picked up by journalist, which then drives policy. The translation is easy. “My bosses don’t like this currency until the government of the country does their bidding.”
It speaks to the way the spokespersons for “the market” manipulate and herd public sentiment in order to achieve political objectives. When heads of state or prime ministers do the same thing for whatever aims, it’s called “jawboning”.
I can understand it if you prefer not to read fiction, but why are you saying that it is above your pay grade?
Ah, you missed one. Who is that Kardashian (sp) person who’s all over the news, and for what, exactly?
It’s campaign season silly. :)
Because I can’t understand a word the author is saying.
I think those are two different points.
If you’re making a parallel connection between them, that would make an interesting research and writing project.
Here’s the follow the money. Note to those who understand such things: This is way oversimplified.
The ECB has made low interest loans available to banks via financial slight of hand so it does not look much like a bailout. The banks are taking that money and paying off old debt and/or shoring up their cash position. For the latter, they are using the ECB to store cash rather than their own banks. Which says a lot about how safe they think their own banks are. The bond yields have dropped because the countries now have another source of cash so they don’t have to refinance on the open market as much.
This is not making any new money available to the market, so the overall economic conditions haven’t changed. Meaning eventually, we’ll be back where we started.
Boxturtle (Buy old gold)
Silly, the return on investment has been great, as long as the businesses don’t put it into the real economy. The banks have so much funny money on the books, it looks really good if you don’t realize it’s because they won’t lower the valuation on worthless mortgages.
Has to stay open late so we can get to 11.5 foot cushions and such.
Good morning.
The media treats the Xmas orgy of buying as if it were the beginning of a new era of consumerism.
YaaaH! I DID miss that!!! Our newspapers are failing us!!!
Boxturtle (Any Kardashian (sp) for President! Smarter than Michelle!!!)
I have to admit I downloaded “V is for Vengeance” to my iPad last night. I am finishing Dean Baker’s book, and decided I need a change from the heavier stuff. Most of my reading is online (FDL, Krugman, Taibbi, Greenwald, etc.) and sometimes escape reading is called for.
If they had the real value of mortgages on their books it would be too obvious they are all insolvent.
So you were here, just lurking :)
It was fun last evening.
Just saying: hi everyone; such good news, RevBev; SD, you do a wonderful job with this and everything you do; and I’ll be away most of the day so have fun and I hope to see you all later!
love from
ohmmmm
I followed you up to this point.
Does that mean the Eurobanks are buying sovereign debt — Italian bonds for instance — with their ECB easy-money and that is driving yields down? Or are the yields down bc the ECB’s backdoor bailout has assured everyone that the ECB will be there no matter what happens, IOW the risk has been “eliminated”?
Got that right.
LOL. After getting good advice from some of my friends here, I broke the news to my DIL that I couldn’t tackle her project.
I don’t think anyone minds too much if the evening part of the thread wanders far away from the day’s news. And I observed (not for the first time) that we’ve been learning about each other in a more personal way. Makes it feel like a true group of friends gathering to chat. Although I am not lonely, it’s nice when one lives alone to have friends in and out.
Have a good day and try not to get too dirty.
Thanks, BoxTurtle. I know it’s simplified, but some of us economic dunces need simple!
I am thinking they are hoping people forget about the overstated mortgages on the banks books. Just like we forget everything else after 6 months.
As if again doing the things that caused out problems will be the solution to our problems. It reeks of insanity.
I wasn’t here that late. I went back this morning and was mesmerized reading the discussion. Better entertainment than teevee.
It’s all supposed to go away if they just keep from letting folks have the break that they want for themselves.
Dirty? Is OmAli mucking out the stalls at the farm today?
So now you gotta get that stuff back into your car and drive it back?
Agree. Living alone and far from civilization, I depend on the internet for stimulating discussion, and would be too much without it if I depended on just neighbors here.
I think that was a wise choice, especially with the part time project over seer event coming up.
I had a friend tell me that people will treat us however we let them. I’m sure your DIL didn’t know what a challenge it would be. Best to be upfront about it.
Good for you. It isn’t always easy, is it?
I found myself relieved for you by the end of the thread.
Agree with you wholeheartedly about the “community” being built here.
Gets kinda goofy in the evenin’, doesn’t it?
She volunteers at a food bank, and works in the green house there. I think she goes in on Tuesdays.
That was just a guess and I could be way off base.
Today the “enthroned corporate aristocrat” uses the undue influence of his “monied interest,” to challenge the rule of law, buying law and tilting a pitch to his favor. As slave-owners had fugitive slave laws to protect their economic interests, “We the People,” are in a precarious position servile to corporatism, usurping god given inalienable rights, under the color of law to protect business models and extraction of wealth. What is being protected here in America is not a nation and it’s people. What is being protected in America is “profit” for the few at the expense of the many. Once again all over energy! The slaves’ energies exploited, just as Americans are pigeon-ed-holed into wasting at least a billion dollars of of economic value daily, simply going to work! What a deal for America? We can do better if allowed to innovate and adapt. SO what really is holding America back from grabbing the mantle of leadership one again? Just maybe those “vested interests” that have no interest in change, like the slave owners of America’s Antebellum Senate and House Divided? Wake up America smell the coffee? What is wrong with you????????????????????????????????????????????
Sounds like something I miss by being off then. Shall have to stop by.
The cash infusion from the ECB was a way to let banks buy up their country’s bonds without the ECB having to do it directly. That would be a bailout you see. Can’t have that.
It is not very well disguised if you ask me.
If they could only carry on their books the mortgages for which they can actually product the note, it would be even more obvious.
The banks are carrying the properties at book value. In a significant number of cases, the note is irrecoverably separated from the loan, meaning the borrow still owes the money but there is NOTHING to back it up. It’s unsecured, like a credit card. If the borrower simply stops paying, it’s not a forclosure it’s individual bankruptcy and the bank is an unsecured creditor just like everybody else and must get in line.
Boxturtle (And the taxman comes in front of the banks)
Delightfull actually. You should be proud of what you have facilitated. (created? willed into existence?)
I’m not sure yet. Probably. But I offered to call around locally and get estimates. My next door neighbors have owned a local furniture store for many years and I suspect they could recommend an upholsterer or two.
Otherwise, yes, I’ll have to wrestle the cushions into my PT Cruiser and haul them back to Indy. SIGH.
They may be buying soverign debt, but probably not much and probably only at gunpoint. But they’re no longer competing with the sovereign debt in the bond market, so the demand drops but about the same amount of money is out there wanting to be loaned.
Boxturtle (No smart bank is going to be buying PIGS debt of their own free will)
Indeed. That’s why I used the word insolvent. Even with 2 plus years of begging at the back window of the Fed for trillions in free money, there is still no value to back up the doctored balance sheet.
“So smart bank” should be “No smart bank”?
Yeppurs. Talk about a shell game.
It only has to be disguised enough for Merkel to be able to pretend it ain’t a bailout and have her party back her up. It’s doing that, but just barely.
Germany needs to decide if they want the euro. If they do, they’re going to HAVE to let the ECB become the offical lender of last resort. If not, take the financial union apart now while you still can do it gently. Because it will hurt more if you wait until it flies apart.
Boxturtle (As soome as the people are permitted to vote NO on austerity, they will)
What the Powers keep missing is that until workers get jobs and can pay to buy things, real value is not returning.
Yes. *sigh* I managed to edit it before the timer expired.
Boxturtle (Why do I feel like I’ve “won” when I beat that timer?)
Do any of you remember Dakinekat, from (I think) New Orleans? She used to comment a lot, was an expert of some sort, and claimed most of the major banks were insolvent. This was w-a-a-a-y before the financial crisis, maybe well before the 2008 elections.
I don’t know where she went or if she ever comments here, but she sure was correct.
The 1% attitude seems to be “we’ve got our money. Customers are too expensive tax-wise, we’ll just sell and live on our Yachts”.
If you’ve already got $1B, what do you need customers for?
Boxturtle (I should get bonus cynicism points for that)
Hey, even small wins are something to celebrate these days.
True, as long as we all keep believing in the pretty paper.
CSpan is at Occupy Des Moines.
Morning SD & Pups of Fire:
Gimme some of them pancakes!
The Year in Crazy.
Part 1.
Part 2.
Income inequality is the tool of repression and control. Unless and until wage decline is addressed nothing will get better.
SoDrag touched on an interesting point yesterday with worker owned businesses. It has worked very well for Southwest Airlines. They are still the only really healthy domestic carrier.
It is only my opinion but without manufacturing retored to its former strength we have no hope of true economic recovery. Basing an economy on debt instead of actually making shit is folly.
Speaking of Occupy. DN! had a segment on yesterday about the militarization of the police. Former Chief of Police Seattle during the WTO protests said he regrets how they handled the situation.
I do remember her. She was, of course, correct.
Couldn’t agree more. We cannot continue to exist as strictly a consumer society. We gotta start making basic stuff again.
We also need to reclassify some corporations. For instance, Nike doesn’t make shit in this country. All their overpriced crap is made somewhere else. They’re importers. Classify them as such, make them register as such and charge them a large annual fee to do so.
Well, we know what happened to Easter Island when they consumed all the wood.
Very prescient…or she had some inside knowledge (not “insider” but from whatever her work was). I sorta think she may have been a professor or something, but I may be way off. But she sure was saying stuff I wasn’t seeing anywhere else.
eCAHN, are you still here? Do you remember Dakinekat?
They turned to stone!
I love the line under the cartoon:
“Click to embiggen”
Which of course I have to do, despite my multifocal contacts.
*G*
Ha, :)
How are you, Ruth? Having any fun?
Agreed. America’s more innovative products over the last decade or so have all been “financial instruments”. Paper, basically. We’re not going to be able to maintain an economy based on moving and packaging other peoples money.
Boxturtle (And it seems like nobody wants our cars)
I miss the days of the evening news reports including “leading economic indicators.” That included “durable goods” orders and machine tool sales and such. Breaks my heart that all I hear now is how the “markets” and bond vigilanties are “feeling.”
Only when we allowed the “analysts” to dictate how much profit a company should earn did we enter the death spiral. There was a time when an annual 7-10% profit, year after year, was a solid buy and hold stock. Funny how that is the same time we had a thriving middle class. Go figure.
And community-owned NFL teams like the Green Bay Packers. Go Wisconsin (you bunch of pigskin communists)! I’ll be rooting for you (unless you play the Pats in the Super Bowl, naturally.)
Later, All.
Keep the faith.
I’m certainly not a big fan of Micro$oft but a few years ago Gates finally had had enough of the quarterly earnings game and said M$ would no longer be reporting them and wouldn’t be beholden to the Wall Street analysts.
Birthed.
I am off to swim (in a pool) have a great day all.
Actually, it is fun that midwinter is here, the time when we can begin to see spring coming. And I have things still coming up out in the garden, here.
This was right around the time he and his wife set up the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. They’ve since given away *IIRC* about $14 billion to various charities.
The shutdown of federally funded research, and that includes the space program, is devestating. So much innovation and technology spun out of that over the years. Higher education and manufacturing were both fueled and fed off one another in an ever increasing economic machine. Right up until stupid motherfuckers put our manufacturing jobs in the hands of intellectual property thieves.
I’m out for now, pups. I have a sewing project (not those cushions) to get done in a short time, and I want to make good progress by lunchtime.
See ya laterz.
We have the worst of winter still to come here in NW Indiana. No spring on the horizon for a couple of months.
Off to swim in the great capitalist cesspool.
US KIA Afghanistan: 1,859
US KIA Irak: 4,484
Afghan, Iraki and Pakistani casualties: estimates vary to over 1.5M
US MBS 2011: 44,764 and counting
Dream Catcher
No war but class war
Be good to yourselves, and all other living things
Namaste
Never. Give. Up.
Unfortunately, some of it to the education for profit machine.
The Foundation is also promoting charter schools and destroying the public school system.
Have one on da house. *g*
Have a great day all.
msmolly,
a dress and a jumper, was it?
Yes, which is misguided and the end result is damaging to our public education system. I’m with you and Pop there.
Agreed, except for the above. IMO it should read “Right up until stupid motherfuckers put our manufacturing jobs in the hands of corporate raiders only interested in cheap product.” This caused good jobs to move out of the country or simply go away. And we have to accept that a lot of those jobs aren’t coming back.
Boxturtle (But the 1% can invest in China rather than America and take their cut from there)
Both statements are true.
On the issue of higher education, check this out.
Back for a minute before heading to the sewing machine. Wow, you were paying attention!
Yes, a dress and a jumper. I’m halfway through the dress but will pause that because the jumper is for the granddaughter whose birthday is Jan. 4th. I have until Jan. 12th to finish the other one.
Nose to the
grindstonesewing machine today.IMO it is unfair to blame the charter schools for the destruction of public education. The charters came about because public education was failing epically, they were supposed to be the solution.
But the GOP won the narriative and managed to place the blame on Unions, special education, and minorities. Which the charter schools have largely eliminated for their classrooms. And they’d doing no better than the public schools.
It’s time to try something else.
Boxturtle (I spent some time as a teachers aide. Parental involvement is the key to recovery)
I can see my granma at her Singer. One of the old black jobs with gold lettering and the wheel and belt on the right hand side.
Me too, gotta get things done now, enjoy your day. Thanks for good company.
Public schools went down because of local govts (read Regressive dominated school boards) dictating the curriculum and states like FL introducing standardized testing like the FCAT, which is a piece of shit. Teaching to a test will not educate children. Much of this comes from the Regressives wanting to do away with public schools and they have succeeded beyond their expectations. Add all this school/teacher accountability bullshit to the mix and we’ve got a disaster on our hands.
Granted. I suppose we could debate how much damage was caused by the subject of each statement.
There is not a lot of intelluctual property involved in making plastic toys and widgets, for example. Or aftermarket car parts.
Used to have a Rope maker in Xenia, employed couple hunderd. Jobs all moved to Mexico. Damn minimum wage, sayeth the GOPer who moved the jobs.
Boxturtle (It couldn’t have really been greed, could it, GOPer?)
In this area, the killer of the schools IMO was busing. That DESTROYED parental involvement, their kid was clear across town for his games and parent teacher conferences. It caused the folks who could leave to leave, both black and white.
A group called Save our Schools darn near completely defunded the schools, playing on racism and “Across Town”.
The people who should have been solving the problem were fighting or filing lawsuits for the next several years.
Even the school board members sent their kids to private schools during this period.
Boxturtle (Not sure dayton has yet recovered. Certainly, the population never returned)
Pfft. I always show up right as everyone leaves. Maybe I should stop being a sloth and get out of bed before 8am on a weekday.
Yes, that played a major part. How do we get back to neighborhood schools without many of them being segregated?
Is this the Diner? Groggy morning, girlfriend’s dog had me up all night with his barking, I swear he hears voices. Am I too late for the breakfast special?
Oh, cool story brah – night before last my wife spotted the comet Lovejoy about 20 minutes after sunset. We watched it for about 10 minutes as the angles shifted and it faded from sight. Pretty cool to see, and even though it’s an inanimate object I found myself happy for the comet. I’m glad it survived its brush with the sun.
Hey, Kris. Come sit in my booth. Don’t expect any scintillating conversation, though, and for God’s sakes. don’t subject me to any till I’ve had a pot of coffee.
I just brewed a fresh pot (no really, I’m actually listening to the bubbling fade as it finishes its cycle). My wife and kids left me this morning. They’ll be spending the next 3 days and 2 nights in glorious Corpus Christi while I sit here and pretend to work.
It is not the widgets, plastic toys or car parts. It is the tooling, equipment and the highly specialized training to develope and build same. A machinist isn’t worth a shit for at least 5 years. A decent manufacturing engineer takes over a decade to train. A tool maker longer. A die designer longer still. It only takes a couple of years of shop class to reverse engineer something though. And if you are supplied all the tooling, equipment and know-how, well, I will respectfully disagree with you on the IP topic.
Problem already solved. The whites largely left and they’re not coming back to the cities. We went from about 60% white to 71% black in about 5 years (disclaimer: Going from memory).
I could care less about segregated neighborhood schools, though. That’s not the schools problem, that’s where people choose to live. I want all kids to get a good education, regardless of what school they attend. I don’t want the schools in the rich areas to be able to build programs that the poor areas can’t just because they have money. We’re spending entirely too much time worrying about racial balance and not nearly enough time worrying about the fact that Johnny Can’t Add.
I don’t want to go back to separate but equal. But I don’t think we should be using our kids education to further a social experiment.
Boxturtle (I should note that the magnet program in Dayton is making a difference in balance)
Herein lies the main problem. Not only are we no longer manufacturing, but we’ve outsourced the skill-sets necessary to revive manufacturing. The highly involved training and knowledge inherent in journeymen in any skilled trade are slowly fading from this life. How much longer do we have before this is irreversible and we have to import the knowledge? 15 years? 20?
You’re allowed to disagree with me, as long as you don’t mind being wrong. :-)
Boxturtle (*rimshot*)
There’s an app for that.
The skill sets are still here, looking for work. Unemployed patternmakers, CNC operators, etc abound.
But most are older. We have a little time to create the next generations of patternmakers, but unless there are jobs for them…
Boxturtle (would you like fries with that?)
America has been decimated by the extraction of wealth as it relates to transportation. The reduction in cost of transportation achieved by the Erie Canal and like was 90%. This fueled America’s westward movement and evolution along with rail. Imagine how far a billion dollars a day could alleviate human pain, improve the human condition, opposed wasting a billion dollars of “value” today? Let’s protect the slave owners America? Fact is we did!
Most unfortunate America embraces the “blindfold of fear” opposed to the “homage of reason?” Jefferson should be on the front page of every paper. Not the pathetic self serving losers we see today!
They’re still here, sure. As you pointed out they’re aging. Manufacturing began its Reagan-directed disappearing act in the 80′s. So you have a journeyman manufacturing engineer in his early 40′s 25 years ago. He’s now near 70 and doesn’t have the 10-15 years to pass that knowledge on to a new hire. Things will be lost, skills will be forgotten, and we will regress a century in our manufacturing prowess as we’re left to either figure things out again or hire specialists from overseas to train our workforce.
Agreed. I’d like all schools in the K-12 range to be as close to identical in curriculum, teacher/student ratio, all that stuff. A system that provides every child with an equivalent education and an equal opportunity to attend college. That would require things like wealthier counties forking over some of their funds to poorer counties.
National soshulism! *Gasp*!
A system with inherent fairness? A level playing field? Terrible ideas! /s
SD@127: Alternatively, We could just decide that funding via local property taxes is not the way to do it and either implement a statewide (nationwide?) property tax or simply move the costs over to income tax.
Boxturtle (I hear the cries of “socialism” already)
Got any practical solutions to accompany the rants?
I think you’re on to something there. With huge (legitimate) variations in property values from community to community you have funding discrepancies. Setting a flat budget per school and basing it on a state tax initiative would balance things out.
Could have that portion of local property taxes that go to education be forwarded to the state for maintenance of the school system.
sd @ 132
yeah, jeb ‘n rick will love your idea. /s
love your diner, sd; tho you are “contributing to the delinquency” of this pup!
karen
In theory, yes. In practice, that makes the rich districts scream “Robin Hood” at the top of their voices and refuse to support any funding as long as it’s going elsewhere.
Whatever is done has to be done with that thought in mind. Because the rich districts are full of lawyers, politicians, and political contributors.
I’m not a big fan of property taxes. If you need the money, put it on the income tax. There are poeple losing their homes because their income dropped (sometimes to zero) but their property value stayed the same.
Boxturtle (I’d suggest the rich pay more attention in church, but I’ve heard what the churches are currently saying)
We have one of the best school systems in Iowa with open enrollment across districts.
The $ goes where the student attends to the tune of about $8500 per student in state aid.
Aproximately 40% comes from local property taxes.
We have declining enrollment and 40 home school evangalical students which results in a loss of about $12000 per student.
My school lost $750,000 last year to those two factors alone.
We lost our Business and German program, art is one day a week, but the FOOTBALL team has great facilities.
Now we have to compete with charter school who select their students.
Remonds me of the health insurace scam between medecaid and private insurers.
That’s why changing the system is necessary. The few controlling the many.
You’re welcome. *g*
RIP, Cheetah. Ripe old age, though.
I was planning to write-in Cheetah. What do I do now?
Saw that yesterday didn’t think he was still alive. Tarzan and Cheetah my childhood heroes. *g* Thanks for the coffee info and website. I will keep checking on it.
so far, I’m writing in “Ross Perot”
^..^
then again, probably not:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Perot
;o(
I just want to throw my blather into the mix today.
By developing manufacturing jobs, we need to be making home appliances and civilian items. We do manufacture some military items, but the military is going more and more to off-the-shelf items. Often much of those items have foreign parts so we may be in bad shape if we lose control of those. I, personally, feel that we don’t really need to concentrate so much on military production.
In education, the charter schools per se are not the culprits for injuring public schools, it is the people behind the charter schools using them as a way to suck the funding out of public schools and move it into private pockets. As was pointed out, the charter schools get about the same results as public schools, but usually are written up as ‘miracle results’ schools. Public schools were not failing in most instances, and where they are failing it is mostly due to systematic thievery, just like the banksters. The problem now is that rich people who have nothing to do with education have become involved in using the msm megaphone to attack public education.
The piece said that he would throw feces when displeased. When I lived in San Diego we used to go to the zoo. A lot. There was a gorgeous silver back there who was known for throwing feces at people who taunted him. Lyn and I were there one day when some punk started in on the old guy and he put one right in this kid’s chest, part of it hittin’ him in the face. People all around just roared.
Ooh, all kinds of interesting threads today. Unfortunately, although I’ve been up for awhile and had plenty of caffeine (oh, maybe not), my brain doesn’t care to work yet.
Got lots of stuff to do, stuff I’ve neglected in the name of the holidays, (or because offices were closed). Research on a teensy piece of mineral property (OMG! I’m a capitalist?) my dad’s family owned in WV. Last time I was at my mom’s we decided to let it go by not paying the property taxes on it; she had tried to donate it, then to sell it; nobody wanted it.
Comes the Marcellus shale and fracking…ta da! This month she gets a letter from a small property co. in WV offering to buy it for a small sum and pay the delinquent taxes, deed recording fees, etc.
Tempting…except…is it now actually worth something?
OTOH, I’d hate to contribute to more fracking in my dad’s home county (yes it is in the Marcellus Shale. That formation turns out to be pretty big), but it’s my mother’s decision. s
So I promised to research the deal and the likelihood of our little piece of land turning valuable at last. She’s very anxious about this, so I’ve got to get cracking today.
I have a story (with a personal connection, of course) about how the state of Texas is trying to make up its income shortfalls on the backs of (what else) poor people, and how it’s failing miserably, but the lege couldn’t quite bring itself to repeal the terrible law in the last session. It’ll have to wait, though, or I won’t get any of my tasks done yet again.
Yesterday I slept too late, took a long soaky bath while reading a novel, and didn’t manage to check off much on my to-do list.
Sounds like you had a great day yesterday. *g*
Not too bad. Maybe not quite as special as if it were a day off from an actual 8-5 job, but heck, I’ve learned to take advantage. Most days I believe that I will eventually be back in the rat race and longing for a day off. *g*
Just a further comment on the 1% attack on public education here.
This is the only thing left on my to-do list, I think (but I’d better look at the list to be sure *g*)
And the mug says: Will I Ever Stop Asking Rhetorical Questions?
Concentrate and ask again.
Celestial Horses
Duncan is a 100% pure world class scumbag.
SD and others who were discussing the outsourcing and offshoring of manufacturing and skill sets – I spent some time on the King Arthur Flour website this afternoon. They are an employee-owned ESOP (Employee Stock Ownership Plan)and a B Corporation ” a new type of corporation that uses the power of business to solve social and environmental problems.”
Maybe this is an approach that could help move us away from the exploitative capitalist business model while rebuilding our manufacturing base and supporting more self-sustaining communities…
If you could, would you make the committment to join an FDL commune?
Something that would be self supporting? I know it’s a tough question, and maybe one that’s not fair to ask.
I’ve only got a glimpse of how it is for you at your current home.
But, I thought I remember you bringing that up recently, something that I’ve been off mostly and then on again talking about.
When it come down to it, it’s kind of a different story, isn’t it?
That is a tough question, because when it does come right down to it, it is a different story. But fair to ask.
I don’t mean to waffle, but before I could really decide I’d need to know more specific information (like I would need before making any kind of major move or decision).
If that meant working full time in some capacity (in my case I could contribute animal care, gardening, cooking, clerical and other skills) in exchange for services provided by other members, I would like to participate in that sort of barter system.
I think living in a small, centralized community and sharing means of transportation (bikes, cars, rail for longer distances) is desireable and will become necessary in the near future. I could see sharing cooking and dining facilities….I wouldn’t want to share my living quarters, though.
For a long time I’ve thought about living in a community that is self-sustaining to as large a degree as possible: its own medical clinic staffed by community members (although it would be important to somehow have access to more specialized medical care when needed. How to do that?); farming co-ops; skilled artisans and tradespeople; musicians; small scale manufacturing – why can’t we produce goods that we can sell or trade to other communities?
So many possibilities and models to discuss and evaluate….but so important to think about. Times are changing, and the pace is only going to accelerate as petroleum resources dwindle. We are foolish not to think about a more self supporting model. Powered descent. Give me tools, and I don’t feel so helpless. Or hopeless.
And, of course, I couldn’t make that decision in a vacuum. I have a partner, and we have always made these sorts of decisions together. As he nears retirement, his ideas about the importance of community and family are changing. Our son and DIL are very supportive of this more inter-dependent model of living. Stranger things have happened. I never say never.
He almost sounds like Bruce Springsteen. Very nice!
Hi there! Evening shift… :)
Thank you again for the CD. It is in my car and I can’t think of the artist’s name….but he is wonderful.
Your welcome. Brett Garsed and yes he is fantastic. *g*
Hello everyone! Good, productive day? Mine was!
Hey, everyone, it’s evening! Does that mean it’s time to get goofy?
I already am, a little….OmAli’s link to King Arthur Flour – and my own receipt of the KAF catalog today – led me to the blog there, which I’ve been avoiding as too calorically tempting.
Didja know today is the Irish “Day of the Buttered Bread?” (maybe, there’s an alternate translation, but I like it.) And that notice is accompanied by a lovely raisin bread. Damnit, I eat too much bread as it is….
I spent most of the afternoon cleaning, finally. Scrubbed the bathroom floor, which was visibly dirty-I presume a result of the muddy drizzly weather we’ve had for several weeks. Vacuumed, and located the latest source of kitty pee smell…an actual puddle on a plastic storage box in the dining room. And spray on, sigh, my sewing box (how fitting for the recent thread)…y’know, the one where you keep the needles and notions and scissors and bias tape and pincushion and stuff. I scrubbed it all and opened windows all over and lit candles, too. The odor is still there, but less.
Oh, and I found another spot – the cable cord behind a bookcase – visible amber spots …sigh.
Smokey is truly being a problem child. But he escaped outdoors and I let him stay while I ran the vacuum and cleaned, since they all hate that in the extreme, so he should be content tonight.
MsMolly, did you finish one of the birthday presents, then?
Dearheart, I just want you to know how much I appreciate your, er, um, zanniness. It’s delightfull, It’s delicious, It’s Detehanarusa!
I have a taco bar on the island in my kitchen, if you’re hungry.
Ground beef with homegrown cilantro, homegrown lettuce, storeshit tomatoes, onion and grated cheese.
I’d be honored if you’d have one.
Who, me? Zany? I thought I was terribly boring and too serious alla time.
Ohh, thanks for the taco…may I keep it for lunch tomorrow? I finished supper a little while ago…ham and mashed potatoes. Now munching dinner rolls from Thanksgiving (that is, froze half the dough then, thawed it and made into rolls this evening) with butter and jam. They’re a little dense, but tasty. Prolly means I should have allowed them to rise slooowwly, but I wanted to eat!
Hiya, tejanarusa! Sounds like you had a productive day (ugh, chasing cat pees). Not fun, but necessary.
Yes, I made good progress on the jumper for the first birthday girl (January 4th). If I discipline myself and don’t hang out here half the day, I should be able to finish that one tomorrow. Has a cute appliqued flower with a stem and leaves made of rick-rack. Totally cute. Then back to finishing up the dress for the older one’s January 12th birthday. Plum polyester “suede” with flowers outlined in silver. Sounds weird but is truly lovely and she will love it! Ruffled hem, puffed sleeves, very elegant.
Demi, I will have a taco if you leave out the cilantro. I am one of those people who cannot stand it (some say it is genetic). I can find a fingernail-sized cilantro leaf in a vat of something. UGH. But the rest sounds yummy!!
The cilantro was cooked into the meat, but I’ll make you a quesidilla. Without meat.
Night, y’all.
Congrats on getting so much done! Actually, the dress and jumper both sound lovely. How nice you have grandkids who actually like wearing skirts/dresses!
And hey, I heard a program on that cilantro hatred somewhere that explained it, I think. Of course, don’t remember the explanation, but yes, it does seem to be something you’re born with. Does it taste like soap to you? That’s the only part I recall!
Thanks again demi, for the lovely taco (I’m fine with cilantro).
And good night, everybody!