
Condoleeza Rice wants a do-over (photo: onewmphoto, flickr)
I don’t know if there is a single defining characteristic of the Administration of George W. Bush. If I had to choose one, it would be the arrogant, reckless indifference displayed by people who had no ability to appreciate or correctly forecast the likely consequences of their flawed policies. Whether it was the effects of their reckless economic, fiscal and regulatory policies or the predictable outcomes of their equally reckless foreign adventures, they showed a remarkable inability to acknowledge the likely catastrophe they set in motion.
The Bush regime believed, even boasted they could create their own reality, and the rest of us would just watch in amazement, unable to keep up. But of course, as with all arrogant regimes, the world caught up and overtook them. Yet the regime’s architects still don’t understand what they’ve done. Politico quotes Condoleeza Rice regretting that she and her boss didn’t do quite enough to rebuild the nation they systematically destroyed:
Rice, who was also national security adviser in the George W. Bush administration, said immigration reform should have been pursued quicker and is still “one of our really great problems.”And she said there should have been a greater focus on rebuilding Iraq after the overthrow of former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein.“I think the overthrow of Saddam Hussein was done brilliantly, but frankly, looking back, I don’t think we thought enough about how to build the provinces and use the tribal networks once Saddam was gone,” she said. “Ultimately, there weren’t enough troops, which was why the surge was important.”
It does not seem to occur to Ms. Rice that one of the most important functions of a National Security Adviser is to think through the consequences of proposed national actions. Aside from asking whether what your boss and his militarist advisers are planning is justified by facts, laws and moral principles, the job requires you warn against measures that would destroy peoples, rulers, governments, whole cultures or institutions. You’d at least get your principals to recognize that the Pottery Barn rules apply: if you destroy something, you better be prepared to pay for it, because you probably can’t fix it.
But apparently, Ms. Rice did not understand the most basic elements of her job, and that failure cost the lives and limbs of hundreds of thousands of people. And no, no sane society would ever give someone that reckless a do-over.



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A “do-over”? Get serious. There is no cure for the disease of fatal imcompetence.
They didn’t do enough to destroy it. After all Iraq still had some infrastructure intact, unlike NVN & DPRK.
They don’t know any history of U.S. wars, that’s for sure.
And the vaunted Marshall Plan?
Link.Europe rebuilt itself after complete destruction by U.K. & U.S.
U.S. is good only at destroying.
So, I have to ask. Do we live in a sane society?
NO, you do not have to ask. And I hope Ms. Rice in her luxury boots sees this post and I hope she thinks about those tragic and lethal failures everyday of her charmed life. Along with the other dolts, ie, W, Rummy, Bolton, Dick, and short What’s his name, yes, Wolf…..What sinful war criminals who killed almost a complete society in their recklessness.
Nothing unique about W, as I illustrate in #2.
And U.S. is NOT fatally incompetent. The country is VERY good at destruction.
Most unjustifiably optimistic comment ever lol. Those types never look back with regret.
Let’s not forget her brilliance in responding to all the world’s intelligence agencies “blinking red” prior to 9/11.
I don’t know how any of these Bush admin bastards sleep at night, I really don’t. The blood on their hands could fill Lake Huron at least.
But Rice almost certainly regrets that she can afford boots only at Ferragamos, rather than the more pricey stores on Mad Ave.
Or maybe she’s already moved upscale. It’s so hard to keep updated on the shopping habits of teh 0.1%ers.
If only he could, W would have lots of time to think…while he plays video games at the Dallas mall. We also are to blame for the election of an idiot Child-King.
They sleep just as peacefully as the Dulles Bros, Madeline Aldim, Henry the K, and all the other usual suspects.
Shorter Condi: Nobody could have predicted
that The Birth Pangs of a New Middle East ™ wouldn’t work out as planned.
They sleep fine. After all, they meant well and that’s all they’re responsible for. That it turned out bad was God’s doing, and meant to teach us a lesson…about something or another.
Of course she understood the basics of her job. Have you ever seen anyone in the Washington/Press establishment criticize her for being wrong and/or completely negligent about everything? Did she leave office with a sterling reputation and a lifetime sinecure? Do leading “Democrats” like Diane Feinstein and Hillary Clinton praise her to the skies?
Job done.
Rice has been on a full court press rehabilitation campaign for several years now. Unlike the other Bushes she can not hide behind a moat and tower of wealth and connections.
Sorry Condi, but we don’t have three trillion dollars and 4500 more Americans to toss into the meat grinder you call your “nation building.”
Lucky for you that we have an incompetent media that regularly lionizes fools and imbeciles like you, otherwise you would be laughed off the earth as an utter fool.
Why not?
The amazing thing to me is how so many Ph.D. holders are so stupid and malicious. I know, I know, they are really smart and the miserable outcomes are what they planned. Somehow I don’t think that they are able to cause the destruction of our nation with every move they make.
No thanks, it’s time to wage peace, please.
Sorry Condi, and same goes to Collin
Like what the the American Negro College Fund says about negro minds: A Black Republican’s integrity is a terrible thing to waste.
The 9/11 people really must have waited til we had an idiot for Pres. His stupid election, and I think most people thought he would be a place-holder. Then 9/11 + fear gave him every excuse for every foreign and internal abuse (Patriots Act) he could envision or be persuaded to enact.
“We got bad advice.” Well they also got good advice. James Fallows details the “good advice” they had at their fingertips in his Atlantic article, Blind into Baghdad, and later in his book by the same title. The State Department had prepared a thirteen-volume study, covering all aspects of reconstructing Iraq including political, economic, and social tasks and goals. The reason the Sate Department’s study was willfully ignored was because the Cheney/Rumsfeld/Wolfowitz architects didn’t want to provide ammunition to its anti-war opponents.
U.S. has endless bucks for war but not a penny for peace. Let’s keep the comments realistic.
Wow, is that the axis of evil….The whole replay makes me sick with rage.
Higher ed is just a propaganda, training, indoctrination device for 1%ers.
That’s probably not true….sure didn’t make me a 1%….
You were prolly not a 1%er wannabe. But for those who are, that’s all they get out of ed.
As for me, though I attended a poison ivy league school & have an advanced degree, learned almost nothing thru the experience, which was a waste of time & money.
What is being neglected by many is just how much of our National Defense policy is truly run by AIPAC/Israel… Here’s a recent example…
Pentagon asks for extra $100 million to Israel for Iran defense (and Congress doubles the tip)…
Congress approved an additional $235 million in U.S. military aid to Israel, Ynet reports. The U.S. allocates to Israel approximately $2.5 billion in aid, per year…
US earmarks $235 million for Israel’s defense systems…
However, Pentagon officials were the ones who requested that Congress approve a $106 million aid budget for Israel’s defense systems against missiles, on top of the Iron Dome budget.
Congress chose to nearly double that amount, approving a budget of $235 million for 2012, amounting to $25 million more than in 2011…
A Mondoweiss commenter pointed out this dated CSM article (2002)…
Economist tallies swelling cost of Israel to US
Since 1973, Israel has cost the United States about $1.6 trillion. If divided by today’s population, that is more than $5,700 per person.
This is an estimate by Thomas Stauffer, a consulting economist in Washington. For decades, his analyses of the Middle East scene have made him a frequent thorn in the side of the Israel lobby.
For the first time in many years, Mr. Stauffer has tallied the total cost to the US of its backing of Israel in its drawn-out, violent dispute with the Palestinians. So far, he figures, the bill adds up to more than twice the cost of the Vietnam War…
*gah*
Sorry about that….I would never say that about my college years or Advanced degrees….Don’t know why the difference….Just to say.
She had to be in on, if not directing, the torture chamber.
Something about her , her boots, george and torture .
Deleted as inappropriate…
Probably sooo true….gag.
The silver lining is that if my edumacation were not so stupid, I would not know as much now bc my suspicions spurred me on to learn for myself.
I agree with you, how can bush blair cheney rumsfeld, and all their ilk carry on?
fifteen million people world wide took to the streets to oppose that war. fifteen million people knew that they were lying. it was that obvious.
I hope that every aspect of this vile miserable liars invasion, from the dead, maimed, desperate Iraq people to the returning americans with their missing limbs, and missing sanity, continues to be brought up in detail , for many years.
Ecahn is an incredible example for all and offers us much wisdom. She came from the belly of the beast and has emerged and seen the light. Too bad it took so long, but it gives weight and gravitas to her comments.
But it does show how much inertia the system has and gobbles up intelligent minds to do its evil.
A few escape and ecahn is one of them. She’s a treasure! Thanks ecahn!
Hm. Politicians. Boy.
They are just not not very smart.
All they demonstrate any competence in is getting elected, getting appointed, or getting others elected or appointed. For some inexplicable reason, the rest of us accept these specific competencies as qualifications for leadership.
Non sequitur.
Absurd.
Yup. Crankin’ off zzzz’s is no problemo for certifiable sociopaths.
Not the US, it was Condi and the rest of the W crew that was incompetent. And shame on the country for putting up with them for so long.
Talk about thorns in aipac’s side, if people paid attention to Norman Finkelstein’s comments on israeli history, it might give greater credibility to the economic critique. That is why there is such a vendetta against Finkelstein, led by dershowitz that denied him tenure.
I’ll accept the flattery. I would write a diff version of my own history, but this is not about me.
I know you would… but I know you a tad and read all your comments and they are right on. write on but don’t ride off.
*heh* There’s a whole litany of ‘steins who’re now thorns in the side…
But, check out this latest Gideon Levy Op-ed…
World must interfere in Israel’s internal affairs
The new world will eventually tell Israel: Stay in the occupied territories, but give all its residents equal rights and justice. What will Israel say then? Interference in its internal affairs? Foreign intervention? You’ve got to be kidding.
Israel is a creepy country… too bad because some cool people live there. It’s like the USA.. very creepy despite the cool people who live here.
Just like here, it seems like the Insane Asylum has control of all the levers of the State Apparatchik…! 8-(
I do not accept any blame for those election results.
Running another provocative banner up the old flag pole.
We’ve also given Egypt, Jordan , Saudi Arabia and others hundreds of billions, excluding the trillions we tossed into Iraq, so lets be a bit more balanced when discussing the ME. I know you don’t give a shit what happens to the millions of JEWS in Israel that’s more then obvious, but the sad fact is Israel is still officially @ WAR with Iraq, Syria, Iran, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia and many other Arab States. My guess it will soon be @ war with Egypt again. Saying this conflict is merely one where Israelis & Pals are involved is a lie and you know it.
I squarely blame Scalia for ’00…! 8-(
Back to the original posting, sorry Scarecrow, but Condi is not a “people who had no ability to appreciate or correctly forecast the likely consequences of their flawed policies”. She perfectly well did have and does have the ability to read and think. She just doesn’t do either. And, no, I don’t think this is just an issue of semantics. There’s a lesson here that is worth learning and remembering.
I know you don’t give a shit what happens to the millions of JEWS in Israel that’s more then obvious…
Please, seaglass, just give up on trying to paint me as anti-semitic…! That dawg won’t bark…! 8-(
anyone who has an oil tanker named after them should automatically be barred from serving in government.
it was always easy to tell when Condoliar Rice was spewing some sort of crazy bullshit…..that would be whenever her mouth was moving
To elaborate on Condi’s ability, I read what I could find on her stint as Stanford Provost and it doesn’t seem that she did a bad job at all. She was hired to deal with an ongoing budget deficit, which she solved quickly. Did she make all the best choices? No way I can tell from here. But it seems one of her choices was to redo the way IT was done at Stanford, which strikes me as a good place to look for substantial savings, especially in 1993, when she did it.
So, again, I’d argue that this woman hardly lacks ability. Which just makes it all the more disgusting what she did when she got into government.
Any folks out there who were privy to the workings of the Stanford system back then? I’d love to hear “war” stories of her Stanford days.
And ya know, they’ve floated the trial balloon already: Condi for GOP VP. Dog help us.
Rather simplistic, but certainly the odds are substantially against us. Irregardless of what faces us, we must press on and be in this for the long haul, for the future of our world is at stake. Being sarcastic and negative don’t build positive outcomes.
All the power humgry women who hang around the oligarch scene are riding for a fall. There is no future for them, and no future for anything they touch. Women have been deceived ever since Eve was deceived by the serpent in the Garden of Eden, but by now, six thousand years later, you would think that we would all of us gotten hip to the jive.
Lake Eerie, please.
toc toc, the clock missed a beat,
let’s make our dinner with richman meat
it seems pretty fine for miss “blood on my hands” Rice
toc toc, the clock missed a beat,
let’s make our dinner with richman meat
you are in denial if you think that this is how it all went down.
toc toc, the clock missed a beat,
let’s make our dinner with richman meat
tombstone smile
Odd. It was predicted – in detail. http://berndpulch.org/2011/11/06/top-secret-post-saddam-iraq-the-war-game/
It seems all retreat to their stereotypes.
Men/women, arab/israeli. “Which side are you on?”
The sad point is that sides are being chosen NOT because of “Right” or “Wrong”, but by political advantage.
What does the AIPAC Lobby think?
What does the Christian Evangelical Lobby think?
Ms. Rice represented Exxon/Mobil well as SecState.
They named a tanker for her.
To understand modern politics, return to Cicero:
“Qui bene?”
People, it’s not just that Rice failed to predict and warn about the post-invasion disintegration of Iraq. It’s also that she had been explicitly placed in charge of stabilizing Iraq, when she was appointed, with great hoopla, as the head of the “Iraq Stabilization Group” in October 2003.
The ISG evaporated so quickly following its announced creation that even ardent critics of the Bush administration never had time to appreciate how crucial its supposed task should have been, or the utter cynicism reflected in its vanishing. For more, see this WashPost column from May 2004 and item 4 in CAP’s recommended questions for Rice’s SoS confirmation hearings.
Post-invasion Iraq was supposed to be a Republican “paradise,” one built on Republican economic and political principles, one meant to be a beacon to the rest of the Middle East and the world, as well as all weak-kneed American naysayers and doubters. Once the Republicanization of Iraq was complete, no one could fail to notice how superior Republicanism is, or so all the neocon Republicans thought.
To accomplish this neocon Republicanization of Iraq, the State Department’s and U.S. War College’s pre-invasion study of how to reconstruct post-invasion Iraq had to be trashed, because this study’s proposed reconstruction of Iraq was completely opposite what neocon Republicans had in mind.
How do we know this? The critical point was when neocon Republicans fired former Gen. Jay Garner as head of Iraqi reconstruction, replacing him with arch-neocon Republican L. Paul Bremer. This insane neocon move set the stage for all that has happened in Iraq since, all the deaths, the destruction, the sectarian violence, the orphans, the refugees.
Gen. Jay Garner was the one initially tasked with implementing the State Department’s and War College’s suggestions for post-invasion Iraq. The neocon Republicans were on a different track. They had planned on replacing the deposed Saddam Hussein with Ahmad Chalabi, an Iraqi exile who had spent years exiled in Iran, but when this “puppet” enterprise fell through due to post-invasion Iraqi resistance, the neocon Republicans resorted to Plan B, firing Garner and replacing him with L. Paul Bremer.
Unlike Garner, Bremer had a decidedly neocon Republican vision in mind for Iraq, one that for years they’d been trying to implement in America, but with the invasion of Iraq, they could test to their heart’s content, on a foreign people in a foreign land without any American naysayers and doubters interfering.
1) Bremer fired all the Sunnit Baathists, freezing them out of the post-invasion Iraqi government, denying them their jobs and pensions. Shiite Iraqis, like Ahmad Chalabi, were going to run things, with Bremer overseeing them.
2) Bremer canceled all Iraqi “entitlement programs,” including the Iraqi food allowance program. No damn welfare programs were going to allowed in the neocon Republican Iraq. No Social Security. No Medicare. No food stamps. No unemployment insurance. No universal health care.
3) Bremer tried to institute a 15 percent Flat Tax, a regressive consumption tax, no damn graduated income tax system with marginal tax rates. Nope. Uh-uh. No way.
4) Bremer banned Iraqi workers from organizing and forming labor unions.
5) Bremer awarded no-bid contracts to selected conservative entrepreneurs, setting up a neocon Republican version of a “free enterprise” zone in Iraq, dividing up the spoils of war, as it were.
6) Bremer packed the Green Zone’s Coalition Provisional Authority with loyalist Republicans, some chosen via a Heritage Foundation on-line want ad.
7) Bremer tried to create a new Iraqi Constitution, one patterned on the secular non-religion-establishing U.S. Constitution, but once Iraqis held elections choosing their representatives, these Iraqi legislators, first thing, passed legislation replacing their Constitution with Islamic law, making Islamic law the law of the land.
8) Bremer wasn’t interested in seeing the U.N. interfere with his neocon Republican activities in Iraq, so he withheld security from the U.N. envoy’s headquarters building, leading to the U.N. envoy being murdered, killed in a car bombing of the building. The U.N. got the neocon message, they withdrew from Iraq.
IOW, for neocon Republicans, like Condi Rice, to admit that they really, really screwed up by invading Iraq, they’d have to admit that their hardcore right-wing neocon Republican ideology is really, really screwed up. They can’t do this. Besides, from their perspective, what they did was a roaring rip-snorting success. No, not for Iraqis or our troops or American taxpayers, but for all the money neocon Republicans put in the pockets of themselves and like-minded Republican loyalists, those who made a financial killing off the war.
How ironic is it that the very things you call Condi’s failings are the exact same things that gave Gaddaffi a boner.
It should be no secret that the US military is gearing up to invade Iran. Ask you neighbor in the military who is home for the holidays they’ll tell you straight up this is a fact as their training and weaponry is being prepared with this focus as much as deployment to Afghanistan.
We’re already flying armed drones, Iranian experts are being killed in strange ways that would match with either drones or boots on the ground.
You have no idea how depressing it is to read even half of your points and know how much you left out. I have a shelf of books supporting that and can’t bring myself to have my kids read them, it would destroy their optimism for the future.
Of course there is: become an administrator or professor of political science at a University.
Actually, the Bush Administration succeeded quite well in creating their own reality. They just couldn’t maintain it.
Best comment of the week, IMO. Thank you.