Herman Cain, before his one-woman-too-many final implosion:
Six in 10 Republican primary voters say the charges of sexual harassment against Cain make no difference to their vote. Still, 30 percent say the charges make them less likely to support him.
Of self-identified Tea Party supporters 71 percent say the allegations make no difference, as do 67 percent of conservatives.
Newt Gingrich, of the three wives, serial infidelity, and overall history as an ethically-challenged loose cannon:
Mr. Gingrich’s skill in facing criticisms head-on — sometimes fiercely rebutting them, sometimes apologizing for past errors in judgment — has only swelled his support. And his strong debate appearance in Iowa on Saturday, in which he faced a barrage of attacks, showed his resiliency.
And even Mitt Romney, vulture capitalist:
So far, however, Mr. Romney has managed to dodge most efforts to brand him as a true Gordon Gekko….
(…)
…Mr. Romney appears to have kept a studied distance from the most current Gilded Age….
I have to wonder, though: Is it really their shrewd political acumen that prevents them from getting dragged down by their sordid pasts? Or is it that their fellow conservatives or Republicans just don’t really care because they’re on the same team? Or consider the alternative even worse?
Did Cain (again, up until the last-straw affair revelations) and Newt really do such a great job of handling or deflecting the fallout from their sleaziness, or was it just a matter of the tea and non-tea branches of the right wing each deciding that their respective philandering gaffe machines were so much more awesome than the flip-floppy Mormon that their glaring family-values hypocrisy didn’t matter?
And did Mitt really do such a great job of distancing himself from his history of destroying jobs and looting companies, or was it just a matter of establishment Republicans seeing him as the only candidate who could defeat the corporation-hating Socialist-In-Chief? (Come to think of it, since when have establishment Republicans ever considered destroying jobs and looting companies to be a bad thing in the first place?)
This will also be a question worth asking about Obama when he opens up a ten-point lead on the Gingrich-Bachmann ticket next fall – because I don’t think it’s going to be a reflection of his political genius, and it sure as hell won’t be on account of his masterful presidenting.



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I say, fuck everybody who remains caught up in the two-team political box. It is too late in the world for that shit. Way too late.
Politics is a spectator team sport. You love your team even if they’re doped up losers.
I wish we *had* two teams…
The flip side of it is you have to wonder what it says about, say, Bachmann and Perry…
Mitt really needs to have an affair. He is just too squeaky clean for the Rs.
HEY, ELI!
I guess that if Obama can win election with friends like William Ayers and Jeremiah Wright, and Clinton can make President with such “friends” as Gennifer Flowers, Paula Jones, and Juanita (“you might want to put some ice on that”) Broderick, then the Republicans will have no trouble regaining the WH with the current crop of candidates.
The Repubs seem to be shutting out some better candidates:
http://www.buddyroemer.com/
Honestly, I would vote not for the guy, but I wish the Repubs would pick a guy like this to RUN AGAINST Obama. Why? Because he’s not INSANE.
((eli))
All really good questions. They’re just like that. They are liars and cheaters. They are unfaithful to a good percentage of positive and good moral values.
And, may I add, what’s good for the morals is good for the family, value wise.
I was just thinking that his vulture capitalist history is actually the *best* thing he has going for him in the GOP primary…
HEY, TWAIN!
Heh, SNL did a skit on just that recently. Pretty funny.
((demi))
I like the fact that Newt has more wives than the two Mormon candidates combined.
Bachman is a woman playing in an alpha male game, so she, like Hillary has no chance.
Don’t know about Perry.
Pay no attention to the false equivalency behind the curtain.
Yeah, cause attending church that has an asshole as a preacher is exactly the same as leaving your wife when she has cancer.
No, really, they’re the same.
At least they’re the same in fantasyland.
Neither Obama or any of the GOP clowns deserve to be elected.
Heh, my slow typing skillz strikes again.
What are ya drinkin?
Remember, if she doesn’t die it’s totally cool.
Oh yes, there is a way to look at Perry. The game is called King of the Mountain. So for the candidates it’s all about having the skills to get to the top, whatever they are. Since I don’t know what those skills are I can’t tell you in what way Perry failed.
My team analogy kicks in only after your guy gets to the top or appears to get to the top.
Heh.
I dunno though, I get the feeling if she does die, it’s totally cool too. Haven’t the biggest applauses in the debates centered around somebody dying some way or the other??
Maybe her not dying was the problem for Newt…
Yes, Eli, that’s my point exactly. There’s one team, and it always works against we regular people. Identifying as D or R just divides the regular people, and dissipates our energy, and keeps us from focusing our rage where it rightly belongs.
Now that’s a funny observation. I’d love to see Willard use it against Newt, just for shits and giggles.
The reason the republicans can so easily shrug off their baggage is the corporate media’s ability and willingness to shrug it off, and actively distract people from them…ooh, ooh, Michael Jackson, Michael Jackson’s doctor, uhh, uhh…
Eli was the one to characterize this as their “ability to shrug off their rather sizable baggage, which of course must be because of their mad political skillz.”
False equivalency I think not.
And terrorist ties. And charges of rape and battery.
Yeah, those were the good ole days, weren’t they? As long as you stayed married to the same woman, you could assault as many others as you wanted.
Hey Eli. Well, screw all these boring idiots, and fuckhead traitor Barry too. Having seen Rocky Anderson talking with Amy Goodman this morning, I’ll write him in even if he doesn’t get on the ballot. The country’s beyond saving anyway, but he seems at least the one breath of fresh air out there.
Hey Sharky! Always good to see ya here at the Lake.
Really! The twice-divorced big-money friend of Mitt Romney?
ELI!!!
It’s either a giant douche or a turd sandwich. Is this a great system or what?
BLUETOE!!!
Yep, that’s pretty much about where we’re at.
Hey, you sound a lot like a guy with “johngalt” in his handle. A guy who ran away from FDL, IIRC, after it was pointed out that his hero was exposed as a worshiper of serial killers:
LOL, and still two completely different concepts are somehow the exact same in your fantasy world.
In the case of Jeremiah Wright, it’s WRIGHT that’s been accused of all those things you say. Not Obama himself, but Wright. Whereas in Newt’s case, it’s he HIMSELF that left his wife while dying of cancer and sort of said “Fuck it” to that whole “in sickness and in health” thing that he swore on.
Yep, in fantasyland, one is guilty merely by associating somehow with someone questionable. While Republicans are innocent of their very own misdeeds. Quite a world you’ve got there, quite a world.
And I suppose since one is guilty of whatever those he associates his/herself with then we can assume you’ve admitted to your friends what a lefty, liberal, progressive SOCIALIST you are by associating with us here.
Fun times.
Well, I’m twice divorced myself, guess I’ll find out about the Mitt and the money. Honestly, even if the guy seemed like FDR and Eugene Debs and Bill Black and Chris Hedges and my favorite easy chair, I must say the absolute horror of Obama has forever snuffed out any notion of a sincere politician for me, let alone any “transformational” or “savior” one.
Yeah, great system.
“Let me see, do I want the asshole, or would I rather have the asshole? One’s a little bit more hairy than the other but the other is a little bit bigger. They both stink about the same, which is to say they both would make a skunk’s nose draw up in fear and pain.”
If that whole “turning over in their graves” thing were really true, I wonder at what speed our founders are spinning now?
Eli !
The Gods are merciful, in giving us Newt as the ReThug front runner. We will have many, many snark-filled nights, should he vie for the presidency …
Petro !
I think we will have many snark-filled nights regardless, but yeah, Newt’s potential for hilarious buffoonery is pretty special.
Nope, not me Pee-Dub. But in all honesty, you guys seem to be pretty good about modding and classifying as spammers anyone who does not agree 100% with the dogma here, so I am sure that anyone who followed Galt would not last long anyway. So your comment about running away from FDL is hilarious.
Well, you lie down with dogs and you are bound to get fleas. But I never said they were equivalent, did I?
And I don’t tell my friends that I lurk here. While I do my best to disinfect myself after every visit, they would not understand my prediliction toward keeping an eye on some very dangerous people. For me, it’s often a lesson in black comedy as well.
Now go ahead, call me an a**hole. You’re good at it.
If we were dangerous, you and your friends wouldn’t be ruining this country as we speak. Sigh.
“I do my best to disinfect myself after every visit”
Gee, I feel exactly the same way, after each time you visit. Think of all the disinfectant that could be saved if you just stayed in your hole.
It is precisely the Progressive cabal that is ruining this country by insisting on spending money we don’t have on entitlement programs that are going bankrupt and asking for more money where that came from.
Sigh is right.
Maybe we can BOTH take our disinfectant and give it to Time’s Person of the Year, starting with the guy who took a dump on a police vehicle.
http://www.drudgereport.com/
That person taking the dump looks like you.
:), so we’re in kindergarten again, are we? Guess who the dump looks like.
I thought you were some high-powered legal eagle. But all I ever get from you is schoolyard banter or the old “i went to law school and you did not, so F Lee Bailey here ain’t gonna edumacate you on the law” argument.
So be it. You can’t argue the facts, argue the messenger.
What a dunce you are. To try and characterize an entire worldwide MOVEMENT as being fairly summed up by one person taking a shit. So, you can’t be taken seriously, and your only remainign valure is to serve as an object of derision. Free will, right?
I guess we could call it the “bowel MOVEMENT”, couldn’t we? I mean, other than spurring sales of pepper spray, what has OWS really accomplished?
It gave us you.