I was debating over what bit of news to feature for tonight’s Late Night installment. Do I go with the Sage Foundation survey of Chicago-area one-percenters that shows them to be anti-government “Chicago Boys” deficit-hawk dipwads who wouldn’t know the common good if it bit them on the ass and who tell themselves and others that private charity can replace government in all areas (in other words, exactly what we suspected them to be)? Do I mention the fact that the Robin Hood Tax might be what saves the capitalist system, if only the Ayn-Rand-soaked oncological capitalists that make up the one percent would realize this before they find themselves on tumbrels? Or do I mention how — in a development that has got to have Obama grinning from ear to ear — the Republican establishment, feverishly trying to get Mitt Romney nominated as he’s the only one in the GOP Clown Car with a prayer of beating Obama, may well find itself helpless to stop Gingrich’s ascendancy?
Then this bit of news greeted me in my inbox:
Newt Gingrich, addressing the Republican Jewish Coalition candidates’ forum Wednesday, threw out several red meat appeals targeted to his conservative, pro-Israel audience. [...]
“I would appoint John Bolton as my Secretary of State,” Gingrich said, to more thunderous applause.
Yes, folks, we’re talking about John Bolton, the PNAC Platooner, the Iraq War cheerleader, the lying scumbag, the man so nutty, hateful, and stupid that even the Republican-controlled Senate Bush enjoyed from 2003 to 2007 refused, twice, to confirm him as our United Nations ambassador (and the second time came after he’d had the gig for over a year due to a recess appointment).
Oh, and he’s the star of an increasingly (albeit unintentionally) hilarious interview given by Polythene Pam herself, Ms. Pamela Geller (formerly Mrs. Pamela Oshry), in which I’m not sure he ever quite makes eye contact with his buxom interviewer. As would be expected, Ms. Geller heartily approves of the announcement by Gingrich: “I love Gingrich for saying it but I would expect whomever the next president of the United States is, John Bolton would be appointed Secretary of State. Nobody even comes close. . . . This alone is reason enough to vote for [Gingrich].” In addition to pandering to the American branch of Likud, Gingrich no doubt was also trying to pander to Kathryn Jean Lopez of the conservative magazine National Review, who has backing Bolton for SecState as a “litmus test” for presidential candidates.
What’s amazing about the wet-thighed conservative worship of Bolton is that it’s being showered by people who claim to espouse “conservative family values” onto a guy like this (courtesy of Larry Flynt):
Court records concerning the divorce of John R. Bolton, the Bush administration’s nominee to become the next ambassador to the United Nations, show his first wife fled the couple’s marital home when he was traveling abroad in mid-August 1982. The records further show that she took most of the couple’s furniture.
Corroborated allegations that Mr. Bolton’s first wife, Christina Bolton, was forced to engage in group sex have not been refuted by the State Department despite inquires posed by Hustler magazine publisher Larry Flynt concerning the allegations. Mr. Flynt has obtained information from numerous sources that Mr. Bolton participated in paid visits to Plato’s Retreat, the popular swingers club that operated in New York City in the late 1970s and early 1980s.
[...]
Mr. Flynt has contacted the State Department asking that they confirm or deny the allegations of Mr. Bolton’s prior conduct concerning his wife and the alleged paid visits to Plato’s Retreat. He has also called upon the Senate Foreign Relations Committee to conduct an inquiry into the very serious evidence concerning his first wife’s fear of him.
Neither the State Department nor the Senate Foreign Relations Committee has yet responded to Mr. Flynt’s inquiries.
That passage is from a press release Larry Flynt released in May of 2006. Expect it to be revisited, should John Bolton’s name ever seriously be mentioned as a nominee for anything other than a long stretch in a Federal penitentiary.




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Who has been a real life patron of Plato’s Retreat? Cmon now, fess up.
Larry Flynt, I might mention, has been a flame out.
I used to be one of his big supporters. Not bc I liked Hustler (ewww) but bc I thought he was the man we hated to love.
IOW, thought you had to place the free speech bounds so far away from what most peeps did regularly that no real peeps could be challenged. Viewed Flynt as that person.
Since his legal contretemps it seems like he is all bluster and no follow thru. Another one of my heroes with feet of clay.
pw!
The original New York location was shut down for good in 1985, but the relocated version has hung on in Fort Lauderdale, though considerably changed from its NYC heydays.
Suz!
He’s kinda like Jesse Ventura: There’s a brain in there, and an embryonic ability to empathize, but there’s also an ego, and the ego all too often smothers both the brainpower and the ability to empathize.
I went to the NYC one once, which is why I issued the challenge.
Well, sumptin like that. You might have put your finger on it or not. Flynt & Ventura, inneresting combo. Both are flameouts.
Now to the real Q. Did either one advance any issue we are interested in.
Flynt maybe a little. Ventura, I don’t see at all. As a MN outsider, Ventura appears to me like a buffoon and nothing but a buffoon.
PW I think this is the sex scandal of the year. Its one thing if two adults have an affair its another if your married and cheat but to force your wife to cheat with you when she obviously hates the idea enough seem immediately runs and gets a divorce???
I am impressed in a I can’t help but look at the car accident way. Newt was impressed too but for another reason.
We should ask Pam if John has invited her to one of his parties in exchange for a puff piece interview.
“I would appoint John Bolton as my Secretary of State,”
I’ll move to New Zealand if that nightmare should ever occur…! ;-)
Nice caption to the photo. LOL!!!!
Would be nicer still to see the “after” photo. After she’s conked him upside the head with something.
PW!
Thank you for that guided tour through the rightwing sewers of our country. Now I think I shall retire to the showers with a 55-gallon drum of industrial strength bleach. The only thing it lacked was a little man-on-dog frothy mix.
I understand, perhaps inappropriately so, that NZ has strict immigration requirements, esp wrt to financial affordability, i.e. not being a strain on the state. Can you pass the test?
Who names a sex club after histories most famous Gay man? Unless of course they were a Gay and Bi friendly sex club at least in the backrooms? Can we get any confirmation?
Well, unlike you, how many Supreme Court cases does Larry Flynt have to win to not be considered a “flameout”?
Feel free to list all the freedom of speech cases you’ve won here.
And what, exactly, makes Newticles think that Bolton is any more confirmable now than he was five years ago? The man is such toxic scum that even the Thugs can’t stand him.
The man is such toxic scum that even the Thugs can’t stand him.
That’s why Newtie loves him so.
They’re also a ‘Commonwealth’ member and I can readily burnish my Canuck creds in a heartbeat, I’d move there, but, Harper has done a real number on them already…! ;-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plato's_Retreat
MY bold Ok so Lesbian sex and drugs. I think Newt might have to drop John soon.
And I’d also like to know who, here, if any, eCAHN would exempt from her death wish for all humans.
Birds of a feather…
Ventura was/is essentially a perpetual smart but shallow teenager, the sort of person who falls for Atlas Shrugged when he/she reads it in high school. But every so often his ego subsides enough for his brain and ability to empathize to assert themselves. (It helps if it concerns a subject or concept he himself has experienced directly.)
Cases in point:
– He got the Hiawatha Line through a divided legislature when governor. (He likes light rail because he rode the DC metro and was impressed by it.)
– He told Larry King flat out that waterboarding (which he experienced as a Navy Seal trainee) was torture AND and that it produced unreliable infomation, with this one memorable line: “You give me a waterboard, Dick Cheney, and one hour, and I’ll have him confess to the Sharon Tate murders.”
– This was told me by a fellow at Occupy Minnesota’s Minneapolis site last month: One day, unheralded, Jesse shows up at the Minneapolis site with 1,500 (that’s one thousand five hundred) chemical handwarmer packets, with the cloth handwarmers for them to sit inside. That will definitely help to get them through this winter.
Dang, Kelly, you’re relentless…! Remind me never to piss ya off…! *g*
Heh, never knew assholes had feathers….
That’s the great thing about FDL, I learn sumthin all the time.
Yep. Mangy vultures, to be precise.
Don’t wish me dead and there won’t be any problem.
Oh, of course. And the fact that both of these guys are being taken to the conservative bosom is telling. It’s also a sign that just because someone was written off as a potential “not Mitt” early on (Newt, you see, had dared commit the sin of talking truthfully about Paul Ryan’s budget plan), that doesn’t mean they can’t still be embraced by the “not Mitt” crowd.
Far from it. There are days that I wish we could clone you. Don’t know where you get all that energy from, but I am certainly glad it is there.
No problemo…! ;-)
Isn’t Ventura essentially (if not actually) a libertarian? He is reasonably bright and even while governor spoke with a candor not often found in public officials. I think he only ran to see if he COULD win, though.
Talking about all his braggadocia since then. To my knowledge I haven’t brought, nor bragged about, exposing anyone else’s sexual escapades, while Larry Flynt has without following thru.
ratfood!!!!!!!
Soooo good to see your fonts.
Hope all is well with you and your feathered friend.
Your wit is missed around here. (Although my computer screen doesn’t mind not getting spewed on any more.)
I’m president of a misanthropic society. The members all hate me.
Ventura is intellectually bright? Coulda fooled me.
You know, the world is messy. Sometimes it’s, full of fail and abhor – but; it’s the WORLD!
It is simultaneously WONDERFUL!
And I will fight and oppose every day, till I’m forced to my knees, those that wish all humans dead, see nothing but a dystopian future, and make no place in their minds or their hearts for something better.
Because where our thoughts go, energy flows.
Anyone can forecast failure and death. Doesn’t take any particular stature or talent.
Ugh, it’s friggin SNOWING like a sumbitch outside.
I hate snow.
Don’t mind snow so much, it’s the friggin’ ice I can do without.
Hi OFG! Bob says to tell you, “Look at me, I’m a cowboy… Howdy howdy hosdy.”
http://www.the-american-interest.com/article.cfm?piece=252
Ok and Conservative thought at Yale was embracing drugs, group sex and lesbianism?
Yup. Jesse’s a libertarian, which is to say that he’s a conservative with a conscience that hasn’t been rendered totally inoperative.
The thing about Jesse (as with a lot of conservatives) is that he has a tough time thinking in terms of abstractions; he usually has to experience things or people at first hand before he knows how he feels about them. He wasn’t for light rail until he experienced it first hand in DC. He wasn’t a strong advocate for the disabled until one of his children turned out to have a developmental disability.
Hey rf! How’s tricks?
Been awhile since I read any interviews with him but IIRC like most libertarians he’s on the correct side of personal freedoms issues and unnecessary wars, bad on most everything else.
I believe that “conservative thought” is an oxymoron.
Well, you don’t become a Navy Seal by sheer brawn alone, M’dear…! I would say that he was ill-prepared to actually win the Guv of MinneSnowta, but, he certainly didn’t do much harm when he did win…!
What separates him from a typical conservative is that he is capable of changing his mind for an intelligent reason (on occasion).
Unlike PW, I judge intellectual acumen on the ability to recognize an intellectual argument without having your nose rubbed init. On that score, according to PW, Ventura is a failure.
Did he do any good?
Yeah. If people want to top themselves, fine. But don’t spend tons of time trying to justify it to oneself by seeing how many others one can take with one, either through suicide vests or by spreading depressive and suicide-conducive gloom like this murderous bastard did. (And he didn’t even top himself — he just got off on making others top themselves.)
I make ‘em stop the car until I get in, no jump starts like when I was young…
Time for me to toddle off. I’m coming down with a cold and still have two more lectures to deliver this semester. Take care all.
Fine, I’m not interested in defending him. Was merely pointing out that he doesn’t fit the usual mold, not suggesting that he is rife with redeeming qualities.
Well say hi to Bob for me, and you take care.
I’m gonna retire now and hope like hell there’s nothing to shovel tomorrow (although I don’t think there will be since the temp is still above freezing. for now.)
Night everyone,
All the best to all of you good folks.
It never gets old showing the difference between what they preach and what they actually do. Newt has enough family problems regarding sex John just adds more gas to a fire Newt wishes were out.
You’ve got my best wishes for a speedy recovery, Dr. D…! Awesome job with the Big Sky Occupies…! *g*
Nighters to you and Dr. Smoke. Best cold remedy is to be extra tough on your students.
Pleasant dreams, OFG…!
Nighters OFG. I had to run the snow blower on Dec. 4 last year, two days after foot surgery. This year so far, so good.
I don’t care how many top 40 hits he’s had, I don’t like Bolton’s singing either. :)
Been more sleep deprived than usual so think I’ll call it a night. Thanks to PW for pulling LN duty. Wishing a splendid evening to all.
Better you than me.. We are at 44 and drooping but clear as a bell… Of course the wood stove is stoked and running full bore..
I’m glad I’m back at sea level, but, it’s still mighty dank and cool here too…! ;-)
Can’t say I blame ya CT… You might be wet but you are not freezing!!
Especially, when I snuggle in with the Better Half, body heat really does work wonders…! ;-)
We had thunder earlier and it’s not due to a warm front. BRRRR.
Debated bringing the parrot in, decided it is best to leave her out, as it is only for one night. Tossed a blanket over her cage.
It’s been rather warm lately, so a correction is overdue. Shit.
But of course.. But my sweetie has a very high temp and I can only snuggle in bed for a limited time before I burst into sweat… Damn and I do love snuggling..
Roof is completed still cold for CA coast below 30 in AM. Sunny mild days. Cambria painting group had a paint in by the bay this morning. One 80 plus year old lady had a small spiral notebook with water colors to die for…really awesome fine art. They painted then had lunch ans critiqued each other…very interesting. Coming back next week.
Nice you are getting warmed up. this weather is going another week.
I can only snuggle in bed for a limited time before I burst into sweat…
*heh* Ironically, that’s what she gripes about all the time…! I’m the purveyor of heat…! ;-)
Aloha, tuez…! Do you think the ‘correction’ will be in spades…?
OH well we are all different… But I have always been that way, need to be cooler than her although she does like to through off the covers in the middle of the night and I am pulling them up closer around me….
How cool, bb…! A ‘paint in’…! *g*
YES
From 80 something today to 41 tonight but tomorrow should be closer to 70+/50+.
I can deal with that. As long as the floors don’t get cold. It’s the “slight” breeze that keeps getting the better of me.
I’m a wuss.
hey pups, just stopping in from the cold for a sec. brrrrr!
just gotta say Newt really likes to jump the shark. Bolton! Wow! Another walking brain trust! hahahahaha.
It’s just a drop in the bucket to the Koch brothers, but it does my heart good to know they lost a bunch on Cain. And they are clueless when it comes to vetting a politician.
“before they find themselves in TUMBRELS”….That’s the spirit! Where is Robespierre now that we really need him.
I know J. Ventura’s a libertarian. Don’t know about him and Ayn Rand. Unlike others on TV, he doesn’t spew BS about Dallas.
eCAHN, you naughty girl lol.