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Early Morning Swim

By: Blue Texan Friday November 18, 2011 4:43 am

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114 Responses to “Early Morning Swim”

econobuzz November 18th, 2011 at 4:44 am
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Morning, BT.

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allan November 18th, 2011 at 4:48 am
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Prosecutors won’t drop charges against student-journalist arrested at Occupy Rochester.

No, Mr. Franklin, we couldn’t.

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RevBev November 18th, 2011 at 4:50 am
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Could Newt possibly be our Pres? Really?

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msmolly November 18th, 2011 at 4:54 am
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In response to RevBev @ 3

Shudder. Good morning, everyone.

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eCAHNomics November 18th, 2011 at 5:03 am
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In response to allan @ 2

Quibble: U.S. never was a republic.

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ghostof911 November 18th, 2011 at 5:07 am
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From the Reuters link. Someone is seeing the light.

the only way to jumpstart the U.S. economy is for the federal government to get behind a serious program to encourage consumer debt forgiveness and principal reductions on mortgages by banks.

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ghostof911 November 18th, 2011 at 5:08 am
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In response to allan @ 2

Dalglish also said photographers nationwide have been arrested in increasing numbers.

Are we seeing a pattern here?

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oldnslow November 18th, 2011 at 5:09 am
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Good morning all. Can I share a good news bad news? OK.

Work is very busy. That’s the good news. The bad news is, it is driven by a product used in drilling for gas and oil that has exploded demand wise.

(yes, it is difficult to deal with)

Thanks for the post BT.

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eCAHNomics November 18th, 2011 at 5:10 am
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Kenya us making an urgent appeal to U.S. for help after its invasion of Somalia last month: democracynow.

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Popeye November 18th, 2011 at 5:11 am
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In response to RevBev @ 3

He has about as much chance as I do. *g*

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eCAHNomics November 18th, 2011 at 5:11 am
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Environment catastrophe oil spill off the coast of Rio: dn

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SouthernDragon November 18th, 2011 at 5:12 am
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Mornin’, BT, pups

Tomorrow is the 96th anniversary of the execution by firing squad of Joe Hill in Salt Lake City.

Among other things Joe Hill was an early song writer for the IWW.

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ghostof911 November 18th, 2011 at 5:12 am
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In response to allan @ 2

Would Rochester police also arrest this photographer?

During protests in Warsaw last weekend, one crafty activist deployed a flying drone to spy on riot police.

Check out the video. The bump on landing is a riot.

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allan November 18th, 2011 at 5:12 am
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In response to eCAHNomics @ 5

The way we’re going, the US will soon be a Republic of Fear.

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eCAHNomics November 18th, 2011 at 5:13 am
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National Press Club demembered a journalist bc he asked Prince Turki about the legitimacy of the Saudi regime: dn

On edit: Sam Husani (sp?); Suspended for 2 weeks. Turki didn’t answer Qs.

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Popeye November 18th, 2011 at 5:15 am
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Good morning everyone. Yesterday the smell of Democracy was wonderful. I marched for about 40 minutes with around 700 people thru downtown St. Louis. It was breathtaking to see all those people come together. I will have a diary with video and pictures hopefully later today or tomorrow.

On edit: When is the best time to put a diary the beginning of the week or the weekend. Just wondering.

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BoxTurtle November 18th, 2011 at 5:16 am
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In response to RevBev @ 3

Why not? He’s not Mitt, and he’s certainly got no more dirt on him than Perry does. He’s not Mitt, and he seems to have enough money. He’s not Mitt, and the Tea party will likely support him.

Boxturtle (did I mention he’s not Mitt?)

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caleb36 November 18th, 2011 at 5:17 am
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Still not a single word from Obama on Occupy Wall Street. I firmly believe he is coordinating the crackdowns with the help of the national security apparatus.

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BoxTurtle November 18th, 2011 at 5:17 am
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In response to popyeye99 @ 10

I promised to support you if you ran. Popeye for President!

Boxturtle (Don’t let it go to your head, I’d support almost anybody left of Obama)

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Popeye November 18th, 2011 at 5:19 am
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In response to BoxTurtle @ 19

Maybe if I were younger. Thanks for the support I might win if you were behind me.

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Popeye November 18th, 2011 at 5:20 am
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In response to caleb36 @ 18

We have a winnah!

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SouthernDragon November 18th, 2011 at 5:20 am
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In response to caleb36 @ 18

Heh, he delegated that task to DHS on Day One. Preznints don’t have to worry about shit after they hand something over to the Gestapo.

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BoxTurtle November 18th, 2011 at 5:22 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 12

Okay, I’ve learned something new today. Never heard of Joe Hill.

Boxturtle (Hope I’ve enough caffine in me to remember)

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Popeye November 18th, 2011 at 5:23 am
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Should anyone wish to view the march on dt St. Louis yesterday you may do so here.

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econobuzz November 18th, 2011 at 5:23 am
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Link 5: Caption Contest

I just shit myself

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demi November 18th, 2011 at 5:24 am
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In response to popyeye99 @ 16

Good Morning BT, Popey and Friends
I don’t know if there’s a better or best time to post a diary.
But, I do know that I’ll be looking for it.
I bet marching with the crowd was a real thrill for you.

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BoxTurtle November 18th, 2011 at 5:24 am
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In response to popyeye99 @ 20

You’re younger than St. Ronnie was, correct? You’re to the left of Obama, correct?

Boxturtle (And you’re not Mitt)

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BearCountry November 18th, 2011 at 5:25 am
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In response to ghostof911 @ 6

Good morning, all. I hate to say it ghost, but since the congressional puppets, the scotus, and the potus are so openly bought (too much evidence to bother trying to give examples), there is no chance for the necessary legislation helping the 99% to be passed that it is nothing more than hopeful dreams on our part.

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econobuzz November 18th, 2011 at 5:25 am
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In response to econobuzz @ 25

Think it was the clams

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SouthernDragon November 18th, 2011 at 5:27 am
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In response to BoxTurtle @ 23

Your radicalization has now begun.

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Shoto November 18th, 2011 at 5:27 am
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More “historian” fees?

I think it’s unfair to keep pointing out The Newter’s continuing pattern of taking bribes consulting fees from various and sundry industries. After all, he has a large Tiffany’s credit line to maintain. So there’s that…

Morning BT & Pups of Fire.

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eCAHNomics November 18th, 2011 at 5:27 am
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In response to BoxTurtle @ 19

Left you 2 responses at the end of last thread.

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Popeye November 18th, 2011 at 5:28 am
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In response to demi @ 26

It was amazing my first protest march. I can say that the real heroes of this movement are the ones from day one who camped out and put real skin in the game. I was proud to be a part of it.

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ghostof911 November 18th, 2011 at 5:28 am
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In response to BearCountry @ 28

I agree with you, nothing is going to be done. But that doesn’t mean that there aren’t workable solutions out there.

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Popeye November 18th, 2011 at 5:29 am
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In response to BoxTurtle @ 27

Yes on all accounts.

On Edit: Especially way to the left of Obama.

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ghostof911 November 18th, 2011 at 5:29 am
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In response to ghostof911 @ 13

I want one for Christmas.

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SouthernDragon November 18th, 2011 at 5:29 am
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In response to popyeye99 @ 33

It’s in your blood now. heh heh heh

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Popeye November 18th, 2011 at 5:31 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 37

Yes sir you are correct. If it weren’t for my health I would have sat on Martin Luther King bridge and been arrested.

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oldnslow November 18th, 2011 at 5:32 am
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In response to popyeye99 @ 33

Congrats on the first! It is amazing to be a part of a protest march. Look forward to your diary.

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BearCountry November 18th, 2011 at 5:34 am
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In response to ghostof911 @ 34

Absolutely! Lots of solutions, but no ‘leadership’ capable of, or interested in, implementing any of them.

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Popeye November 18th, 2011 at 5:34 am
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In response to oldnslow @ 39

Thanks I wish I started this stuff about 30 years ago. *g* A lot easier on the body.

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msmolly November 18th, 2011 at 5:35 am
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In response to popyeye99 @ 16

I don’t have any insider info, but my sense is that there’s more traffic around here during the week (especially early in the week), so posting a diary on the weekend might not get as many eyeballs. But let us know when it goes up and we can read and recommend and then it usually gets featured, sometimes even front-paged if it has recs or the topic is timely. Anything “occupy” is timely now.

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oldnslow November 18th, 2011 at 5:37 am
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Apparently the 32,000 people at OWS last night is confirmed. Way to beat down the Movement Mike. (you asshole)

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Popeye November 18th, 2011 at 5:38 am
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In response to msmolly @ 42

Thanks. I was thinking Monday myself but most of you here read it anyway. I think it’s important that all occupy events get front paged so that we can see how big it is.

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ghostof911 November 18th, 2011 at 5:38 am
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In response to BearCountry @ 40

The ‘leadership’ lies with the youth. They’ll just have to wait until all the greedy old bastards die off.

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Popeye November 18th, 2011 at 5:39 am
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In response to oldnslow @ 43

Billo the clown said the movement is over that is before the march yesterday in New York. Righty O Bill good call.

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demi November 18th, 2011 at 5:40 am
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Caption Contest:
Those other guys got boxes with a prize and all I got was punched in the stomach. And, it hurts.

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Popeye November 18th, 2011 at 5:41 am
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In response to demi @ 47

And I’m gonna cry. *g*

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Shoto November 18th, 2011 at 5:42 am
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In response to oldnslow @ 43

And that proves that Bill O’Reilly was correct when he said the movement was officially over.

Wait. What?

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SouthernDragon November 18th, 2011 at 5:43 am
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In response to popyeye99 @ 41

Heh, then you’d be an old flamin’ radical like me, readin’ all that subversive stuff, givin’ the authorities hell every chance ya got. Great fun.

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eCAHNomics November 18th, 2011 at 5:43 am
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Vlad is up on democracynow.

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BearCountry November 18th, 2011 at 5:43 am
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I must admit I am overawed by the ‘leadership’ of the big 0 in giving the same support to OWS as he gave to the WI demonstrators. It is certainly true that the 99% simply don’t understand the intricacies of the business of w$. The idea that getting a govt bailout deserves a bonus makes complete sense as the 1% can explain it, but the 99% have only the understanding at a children’s level, the 1% should be trusted and the 99% should be thankful and go home to watch their TVs.

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cbl November 18th, 2011 at 5:43 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 12

ha !

some little hippie gal as the march towards Brooklyn Bridge commenced yesterday:

“somewhere, Joe Hill is smiling “

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OmAli November 18th, 2011 at 5:44 am
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Hej pupses and thank you, BT.

I can’t think of a caption. But, sheesh, he really looks like the Grinch.

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Shoto November 18th, 2011 at 5:44 am
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Yup.

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Popeye November 18th, 2011 at 5:44 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 50

It would be an honor to be a flamin radical like you. Maybe there’s still time for me. *g*

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BoxTurtle November 18th, 2011 at 5:45 am
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Ecahn@32: Got ‘em and responded. Let’s keep that discussion over there so we don’t go O/t everywhere.

Boxturtle (not that there’s anything O/t in swim)

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eCAHNomics November 18th, 2011 at 5:45 am
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In response to OmAli @ 54

I fell asleep last night.

I left you another comment this morning.

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Popeye November 18th, 2011 at 5:46 am
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In response to OmAli @ 54

With a bowel or bladder problem. Did I say that?

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Shoto November 18th, 2011 at 5:48 am
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The Media Complex is fighting hard for closure. We must not allow that to happen. In fact, I think it would be a pretty good idea to do some “Occupy” demonstrations at the various MSM TeeVee outlets. Bring the story to them. They might actually get off their fat asses and do some actual, ya know, news reporting.

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OmAli November 18th, 2011 at 5:48 am
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In response to Shoto @ 55

Good link, thanks.

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ghostof911 November 18th, 2011 at 5:49 am
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In response to BearCountry @ 52

The 99% simply loves being pandered to like children.

The 99% will be returning their affection as 0 stomps around the country next year begging for votes.

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OmAli November 18th, 2011 at 5:49 am
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In response to eCAHNomics @ 58

Cool. I was the last one standing.

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OmAli November 18th, 2011 at 5:49 am
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In response to popyeye99 @ 59

Ewwww. TMI, popeye :)

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demi November 18th, 2011 at 5:50 am
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Old & Slow
I hope you don’t let it bother you too much. Ya gotta have a job and you looked for one for a while, didn’t you? Damn this situation that makes people choose between feeding their families and their conscience.

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msmolly November 18th, 2011 at 5:51 am
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In response to popyeye99 @ 44

That was certainly the case yesterday. The site was pretty consumed by Occupy reports, diaries, etc.

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OmAli November 18th, 2011 at 5:51 am
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In response to demi @ 65

Well put, demi.

I agree, Oldnslow.

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Popeye November 18th, 2011 at 5:52 am
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In response to OmAli @ 64

Sorry couldn’t resist. The picture was just perfect for that comment.

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oldnslow November 18th, 2011 at 5:53 am
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In response to Shoto @ 60

For the 2nd day in a row, Donny 1%er Duetch (sp?) on Morning Joke today sayin the Movement “needs a former Wall Streeter” as a spokesman to get out a clear focused message. (Man that guy is an asshole)

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Popeye November 18th, 2011 at 5:54 am
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In response to msmolly @ 66

IMHO that should be most of the coverage here at FDL. I think the political is a waste of time but I guess we should at least know about it.

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oldgold November 18th, 2011 at 5:55 am
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In response to msmolly @ 42

At the bottom of the page there is a box labeled “site meter.” If you click this box, it will display a lot of information about the traffic at FDL on an hourly, daily, weekly and monthly basis.

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SouthernDragon November 18th, 2011 at 5:55 am
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In response to oldnslow @ 69

If any of these people had a brain they’d take it out and play with it.

Mornin’, brother.

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oldnslow November 18th, 2011 at 5:55 am
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In response to OmAli @ 67

Thank you both. We have made the choice to make hay while the sun shines.

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econobuzz November 18th, 2011 at 5:55 am
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In response to oldnslow @ 69

Man that guy is an asshole

That’s a requirement for appearing on the show.

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Shoto November 18th, 2011 at 5:56 am
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In response to oldnslow @ 69

Hey Donny: Focus this…

They should rename that show to something like “Asshole Roundtable,” or “Morning Circle Jerk.”

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Shoto November 18th, 2011 at 5:56 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 72

Heh…

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msmolly November 18th, 2011 at 5:58 am
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In response to popyeye99 @ 70

Not that we’re doing it for the attention, but we sure are getting some traffic here because of the OccupySupply efforts. Hope everyone read Glennzilla yesterday. Lots of coverage and two photos of OccupySupply.

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oldnslow November 18th, 2011 at 5:58 am
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In response to Shoto @ 75

Heh

How about “Morning Clusterfuck”?

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oldnslow November 18th, 2011 at 5:59 am
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In response to econobuzz @ 74

It must be. The pool boy was on in person this morning.

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Popeye November 18th, 2011 at 6:00 am
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In response to msmolly @ 77

Thanks for the link I have it book marked.

On edit: Sorry for the typing errors. Not enough coffee yet.

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econobuzz November 18th, 2011 at 6:03 am
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In response to oldnslow @ 79

The sickest thing about the show are those black and white snapshots of Joke and Meeka all around NYC — she gazing into his dead eyes and he looking off into the distance.

Makes we want to wretch.

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BobTinKY November 18th, 2011 at 6:04 am
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That Reuters story is a joke, PR for Wall Street. Here’s the real story on that topic:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/owss-beef-wall-street-isnt-winning-its-cheating-20111025

Not a mention of the free money and favorable loans showered upon Wall Street & all those succesful small businessmen who inhabit it; measure in the trillions of dollars. No comparison of those loan terms with the terms commonly foisted upon everyday borrowers. No accountability , nary an investigation of the fraud on Wall Street.

Just some vague disconnect that no one can quite understand. I think Taibbi nails it.

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SouthernDragon November 18th, 2011 at 6:07 am
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Had a visit from Mr Vertigo early this mornin’ so no capitalist cesspool swimmin’ today.

US KIA Afghanistan: 1,840

US KIA Irak: 4,483

Afghan, Iraki and Pakistani casualties: estimates vary to over 1.5M

US MBS 2011: 39,804 and counting

A hat trick for this mornin’

Alone Again Or

Si Tu Disais

Inspiracion

No war but class war

Be good to yourselves, and all other living things

Namaste

Never. Give. Up.

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oldnslow November 18th, 2011 at 6:07 am
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In response to econobuzz @ 81

Gives me the impession that there is something physical between them. And yes, it is disgusting.

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cbl November 18th, 2011 at 6:07 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 72

40+ years later and nothing has changed – per TradMed, it was once ‘a perfectly legit movement, but has been taken over by “those with a secret and violent agenda” ‘

oh, and apparently there was “anarchy in NYC” yesterday, but a “massive protest” in Tahrir today

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oldnslow November 18th, 2011 at 6:08 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 83

Rest or doc visit?

on edit;
Sorry I missed you @72. Good morning. Hope you get to feeling better.

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BearCountry November 18th, 2011 at 6:09 am
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All right, all right. Enough humor at the expense of joe and mika. Please don’t make fun of people of limited humanity. I don’t have TV now, but I watched the program for about 10 minutes once. I couldn’t stomach any more inanity, hypocrisy, and prevarication. I think that they actually didn’t have a grasp of facts and really believed what they were passing off as truth.

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BobTinKY November 18th, 2011 at 6:10 am
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In response to ghostof911 @ 6

Also, too, from the article, “debt relief ain’t gonna happen.”

Unless you’re a supposedly sophisticated finance guy on Wall Street or monied investor about to go under due to the fraud and shenanigans of your brilliant Wall Street advisors as happened in October 2008. Then you get all the debt relief you need and then some even if it takes an act of Congress; legislation that the President himself says must be acted upon within a week’s time.

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demi November 18th, 2011 at 6:10 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 83

Hope you’re feeling better soon. ((SouthernDragon))

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SouthernDragon November 18th, 2011 at 6:11 am
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In response to oldnslow @ 86

Just hangin’ at home. Got Meclizine and there isn’t anything docs can do. Not too bad this time but nausea won’t go away. Royal pain in the ass. Last thing I needed at 4:30 this mornin’.

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demi November 18th, 2011 at 6:11 am
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In response to BobTinKY @ 88

Hey, TinKY
Are you new? If so, welcome to you!

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econobuzz November 18th, 2011 at 6:13 am
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In response to BearCountry @ 87

I think that they actually didn’t have a grasp of facts

Another requirement for appearing on the show.

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BearCountry November 18th, 2011 at 6:14 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 90

(((SD))). Get better soon. We need your mind at 100%.

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Popeye November 18th, 2011 at 6:14 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 90

Hope you feel better man. *g*

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nonquixote November 18th, 2011 at 6:18 am
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In response to oldgold @ 71

I’d forgotten about that site meter, now I’m a bit self-conscious about what I might say.

But not about this: RECALL WALKER

Office work today, within 48 hours we had almost double the amount of petition circulators we thought we would need. There has been a request for window signs from people who have opened their homes as gathering and collection points, my printer is spitting them out as I write.

A second good morning to everyone.

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OmAli November 18th, 2011 at 6:20 am
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In response to eCAHNomics @ 58

eCAHN if you are still here, I’m replying, but it is taking a while. Check back, if you can. EPUland :)

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SouthernDragon November 18th, 2011 at 6:20 am
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In response to nonquixote @ 95

out-fuckin’-standing.

Hey, Walker! Yeah, you, motherfucker. We’re comin’.

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cbl November 18th, 2011 at 6:26 am
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per the resident repression apologist on CNN, Police “videotape everything their officers do”

but somehow can’t come up with tape of the kid with the bloodied head “throwing a battery” at the cops

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SouthernDragon November 18th, 2011 at 6:27 am
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In response to cbl @ 98

*snort*

assholes

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Popeye November 18th, 2011 at 6:28 am
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In response to cbl @ 98

I thought he only knocked a cap off of the cop. That’s what one of the protesters said on Countdown last night. He got bloodied for that. Disgusting.

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cbl November 18th, 2011 at 6:30 am
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In response to popyeye99 @ 100

3 are being charged with felonies in Denver for touching cops vest’s – of course that’s the same location where folks are being ticketed for merely honking in support of the occupiers

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msmolly November 18th, 2011 at 6:32 am
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Take care, SD. And have a good day, all. I’m off to make phone calls and then sew!

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Popeye November 18th, 2011 at 6:35 am
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In response to cbl @ 101

Don’t you just love the smell of Fascism in America. /s

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Popeye November 18th, 2011 at 6:35 am
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In response to msmolly @ 102

Have a great day MM thanks for the diary advice. :)

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nonquixote November 18th, 2011 at 6:39 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 97

Last week we were looking for office help to fill advertised open hours, this week I have four extra people to train and we’ve opened a vacant office right across the hall with another table for people to sit and sign.

Word is that many avowed republicans are claiming such and stopping in to sign the petition, also.

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OmAli November 18th, 2011 at 6:41 am
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In response to BearCountry @ 93

Scary thought :)

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SouthernDragon November 18th, 2011 at 6:45 am
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In response to nonquixote @ 105

Walker and friends are not gonna be happy when 700,000 signatures get turned in way early. heh

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Knut November 18th, 2011 at 6:56 am
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In response to caleb36 @ 18

Almost certainly.

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realitychecker November 18th, 2011 at 7:05 am
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Good morning, freedom lovers. Great day yesterday. What’s next?

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cregan November 18th, 2011 at 7:07 am
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In response to ghostof911 @ 62

I agree. It is quite true that the overwhelming majority of the federal budget is devoted to the 99%.

SS, Medicare, Medicaid, education, school loans, government guarantees for the middle class to buy a house, public universities and many other things.

And, 90% of it paid by the top earners.

It is disgusting how the government pays no attention to the middle class.

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Popeye November 18th, 2011 at 8:07 am
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In response to realitychecker @ 109

Boycott Black Friday..Biggest shopping day of the year. H/T to SaronMI on the thread upstairs.

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OmAli November 18th, 2011 at 9:29 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 83

No music from me today.

It’s fruitcake weather

Truman Capote’s

A Christmas Memory

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realitychecker November 18th, 2011 at 11:50 am
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In response to OmAli @ 112

Just “seeing” your handle is “music” to my eyes. ;-)

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OmAli November 18th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
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In response to realitychecker @ 113

*smile*

Fun plans for the weekend? Is your lady going to be in town?

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