Morning, BT.

morning all. Cain was a member of the FED, which speaks volumes about the Fed. eurocrats are quickly subverting democracy, more power in the hand of a few and hitler has appeared on TMZ wondering why everyone was against him when he was just trying to do the same thing.

Good morning, everyone! (Now off to follow the linkys.)

Trying to figure out from the last thread how Bloomberg suffered a “defeat” yesterday. Didn’t the judge rule in favor of the Zucotti Park clear-out? I was AFK much of the day, so I may have missed something.

From the second link:

The Biden appearance, billed as a campaign event, was clearly aimed at harnessing the energy ignited by the pro-union victory and building momentum for Obama in Ohio heading into 2012.

What a farce.

I had to go back and read it twice. First read, I thought he said, ““Folks, you fired the first shot. It’s about Barack Obama. It’s not about Joe Biden.”

Guess I need some breakfast and more tea.

Congressional deal derails funding for high-speed rail

“We did well on some things and not so well on other things,” U.S. Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., said Tuesday

which sounds a lot like

“The war has developed not necessarily to Japan’s advantage.”

democracynow: 1000 protestors return to ZP.

No backpacks, as well as no tents, allowed in ZP.

Don’t you remember 0, in his comfortable shoes, hitting the campaign trail for this labor bill ?

Don’t you remember him and Joe had to leave the labor protests in Wisconsin to fight for labor in Ohio?

Me neither.

How do you think that cuts for the movement in the long run: a plus or a minus?

You don’t need high speed rails when we lead the world in high speed drones.

Still watching & waiting. Too soon for me to make any predictions. I don’t know enough.

I once had a client, in a derisory voice ask me about my forecast, whether it was a fear expressed as a forecast. I rejoined: As opposed to a hope expressed as a forecast?

Lots of both going on about OWS.

Farce doesn’t cover it. Somebody should have asked Biden where he was while we were fighting it. I can’t recall a signle visit or even a mention in a speech. Perhaps he was in Wisconsin…no, huh?

Boxturtle (I’m sure the answer is “working behind the scenes”)

Gingrich’s financial ties to FreddieMac under renewed scrutiny. Something like $1.6 million.

I also read, I think on the guardian, that the police will determine who can enter the park. will check and see if i can find link

First segment on dn = reoccupation of ZP.

from the guardian

Shortly before 8pm, protesters at Zuccotti Park held a general assembly during which rumours of a curfew were dismissed. “The park remains open 24 hours a day,” organisers relayed to the crowd, using a human microphone. The news was greeted by cheers.

But boos followed when it was explained that a judge had ruled that the police control who can come into the park at all times. “

The tent ban is a bump in the road. I see the movement coming back stronger and with sharper focus.

do you think the govt data is manipulated you know jobs, cpi etc?

Well, then, we’ll see what we can carry in our pockets. I have a hammock that will fit in my pocket along with a lighter and a wallet.

I am reminded of a story told be by a biker. The LAPD/ CHIPS (I forget which) had decided that flying motorcycle gang colors was illegal. They pulled him over for flying rags and made him take his off. His were on a sleveless denim jacket, like most. He took off the jacket and the cop observed that he had the gang colors on the back of his shirt. So the shirt was ordered off, to reveal that it was also on his undershirt. The cop, ANGRY now, orders the tshirt off. To reveal the brand new full back brightly colored gang logo tattoo.

Cop drives away without another word.

Boxturtle (Always enjoyed that story. He’s got the tattoo on his back to back it up)

P.S. Edited for multiple typos. Please forgive the dyslexic.

not sure i agree. if you take away the ability to occupy it will weaken the movement

No.

I’ve talked to a lot of USG data drones during my career & I have the highest respect for them and their professionalism. They loved answering my Qs bc I tried hard to get enough info to make sure the data were used in the right way.

The big problem is that USG data is underfunded. So capturing new developments could be a problem.

But again, my experience is dated. I don’t know what’s happened in the last decade. Shit slides downhill, and fear of job loss is a powerful motivator.

I’m thinking big shopping bags from stores where only 1%ers shop.

These co-orated attacks on all the OWS movements have Obama Finger prints all over them. So from my position in the tall grass, Fuck Obama and his lackeys, Fuck them now and fuck them later, but fuck them.

Robert Tilton and Joe Biden

Not much difference, is there?

OOps, on edit, I need to try that again,

And goodmorning pupses and thank you BT!

Mornin’, BT, pups

We knew that the occupation of Zuccotti Park wouldn’t last forever. The hangers-on have disappeared but the diehards are there. We’ll have to wait and see what Phase TWO will look like.

For the movement to be viable it must be flexible and able to adjust to the changing landscape.

A lot has gone downhill in the last decade and would not be surprised to learn that govt data has fallen victim to manipulation.

Biden and Tilton

second attempt

How will it do that? protests do not really work, what made this different was the occupy part.

Man if your making that kinda money I suppose Tiffany “s might want him to open an account.

$300.000 chump change for nuit

I disagree. The park was drawing people who hadn’t the least bit interest in the movement and were beginning to cause disruption. Over the long term that alone would have led to a disintegration of the message. New ideas will keep the movement alive.

The occupy part (phase 1) has already played an important role in that it has created an awareness and has caused people to get involved. If I were the 1% I would be more concerned about phase 2, because no one knows what that is going to look like.

That’s a dry hole for the way to think about genuine problems & what to do about them. The way I see that used in comments is to dismiss any kind of evidence that might be in contrast to commenter’s opinion, and never as a way of suggesting how to move forward.

It would be a reason for making sure that analysts who use the data are objective & careful.

Current segment on dn is about various paths the movement might take.

It’s the same in St. Louis. They can be at Keiner Plaza from 6 am to 10pm but no tents or camping out.

It’s being reported this morning that the actions to “Remove Wall Street” were coordinated with the mayors and the FBI and Dept. of Homeland Security. Obama says one thing for the dupes and his administration does the opposite. Win win. Sorry no links at the moment.

Theh disinformation campaign is taking a toll as well. Mike Barnacle on Mornning Joke this morning actually said “if you go there and look, your eyes tell Banana Republic and Gap.” Then Donny 1% Duetch (sp?) said that 2/3 of Americans are against the Movement. This of course went unchallanged by bubbles. It was fairly disgusting.

Good morning all and thanks for the post BT.

Nothing is so fearful to the comfortable as the unknown.

Ellsberg up on dn. Most hopeful he’s been in decades.

Morning OmAli and all Firebaggers.

Good morning, popeye :)

There were lots of links yesterday about Quan’s talking about group call with 18 mayors, all of whom subsequently closed down their Occupies. Also lots of speculation that DHS was coordinator, but I didn’t read anything specific about latter, so looking forward to anything you can find.

I don’t think we need a link to figure that out. *g* Just kidding but it wouldn’t surprise me. I was waiting for him to put on his walking shoes /s

Military urbanism will be final segment on dn.

Miss? More coffee, please?

Thank you.

Another day of great political subjects /s I finally heard from a person with the supplies for the St. Louis protesters. I hope he calls me today. I haven’t heard from Paul who I have been dealing with in St. Louis. Sigh! The Occupy St. Louis website is very slow in updating.

Yup. Control freaks hate the unknown.

The occupy St. Louis website has been updated and here is the Link Hope they keep going strong.

Probably a lot of new ideas being discussed. Just haven’t made it into print, yet.

If you’re trying to solve that mystery, what other entity would have the means, motive, and opportunity to coordinate that stunt?

Steven Graham is guest on militarization of urban areas. He’s from U.K. & has written a book.

They have an action planned for tomorrow, that’s good to see.

I think this diner is self serve. Coffee and tea over there—>

I’m not denying the link, just looking forward to seeing actual evidence.

At some point, the occupation aspect became counterproductive for the movement. The one exeption to this might have been OWS. It seemed that In many respects, with apologies to McLuhan, the venue was the message. Or, at a minimum, served as an essential clarifier.

Unfortunately, my reading of the speech plus case law, Cox v Louisiana and its progeny, suggests this restriction of speech and assembly is probably legal.

Our usual waitress went down to the park to Occupy. *g*

Also, DHS is such an incompetent behemoth, there is an upside to their ‘coordinating’ it. Like CIA ops, most of them seem to go wrong. :-)

:)

In any case, I’m going to have to ask you, you and you to slide out of the booth so I can get out. Thanks, guys.

Hope to be back in a couple, but if not

safe travels and safe home, pupses dears, each and every

from your

ohmmm

Given the 0 administration’s passion for pursuing whistleblowers, that evidence may be hard to come by.

ha!

They are having a march tomorrow at 3 pm. I am going to videotape it and probably write a diary of the march.

Got some chores. BBL.

Be well.

Unfortunately, my reading of the speech plus case law, Cox v Louisiana and its progeny, suggests this restriction of speech and assembly is probably legal.

Oh, that clears everything up.

And, to you. Thanks for your dn updates.

busy servin’ up OccupySupply goods thankyewverymuch !!

Mornin’ All, more coffee ?

Do you have the proper clearance to see the the “orders” to protect National Security ?

I’m telling you that kid singing that anthem to 0 ‘s face while he was showing off his powers to the MOTU in that room triggered this response.

0 has a thin skin veneer.

Good morning. Is that an Occupy Austin Occupier with an FDL lid on?

Off to swim in the great capitalist cesspool.

US KIA Afghanistan: 1,836

US KIA Irak: 4,484

Afghan, Iraki and Pakistani casualties: estimates vary to over 1.5M

Crazy On You

US MBS 2011: 39,556 and counting

No war but class war

Be good to yourselves, and all other living things

Namaste

Never. Give. Up.

Hey, please watch that gender stereotyping. ;^) This pup sloshed coffee, flipped pancakes and cooked eggs to your liking as a teen summer job at the very dawn of modern political correctness. Mopped the counter, bussed the dishes and got the very, very early morning shift off to their jobs, before the regular wait staff arrived for their breakfast shifts.

Morning pups, hope everyone is sunny side up.

yeppers :D

0 has a thin skin veneer.

And a vindictive, backstabbing mindset.

Boxturtle (The fellow seems as petty as Cheney)

Well, if you were to read Cox, it might.

Is that your Kris?
I spent 3 1/2 hours straight, with no breaks and not even time to barely breathe serving breakfast and then lunch to the Homeless yesterday. I’m getting to know a lot of them and I really put out the emotional effort to connect and make sure they have what they need.
One of the gals had told me she needed new socks and I had bought some for her and when she came up to the food counter, I gave them to her. She grinned widely and told me how grateful she was as Tuesdays is Homeless shower day and she said it would be wonderful to have clean socks to put on after getting clean herself.

Hey ya, nonquixote.
Yep, sunny side up and raring to go again. New day, new challenges. :)

Petty has always really pissed me off. Petty seems to be his MO. Not only that his silence on the Occupy Movement is pure cowardice.

It is really neat to see people who put their words into actions. I know everyone has different situations but wonder if everyone devoted 3 hours to a cause like that. Hmm? Just thinking out loud. *g*

You’re a jewel. Thank you for all that you do.

Not only that his silence on the Occupy Movement is pure cowardice.

He’s going to put on his walking shoes just give him some time. /s

no sweetie, that is Frog, one of the Austin occupiers – Kris and/or greenwarrior are to put up a diary of OccupySupply @ Austin monday night – although some hoarse granny was placed in charge of video and may have mucked the whole thing up :~o

bless you (((sister))) for those socks

We do all have different situations and we are all at different stations in our lives. This is something that I am able to do.
Three hours a day, three days a week (currently).
I also keep supples in my van, like bottled water, pre-wrapped cheese and crackers, extra towels, stuff like that, which I give out to the homeless who hang out in the parking lots of the stores in town. Anyone can do that, just as a suggestion.
Oh, and also dog and cat food in baggies. Many of the homeless have animals who I’m sure are a great comfort to them.

Morning Demi,

A predictable group of trades people, then the morning wait staff (restaurant help had meals included with wages) knew the back door to the little restaurant was open and that the coffee was ready.

New challenge is treating myself to an adult art class starting this evening and running through the heart of the winter season. Ceramics. I intend to do a little centering.

hoarse granny…oh cbl, you keep me smiling. And, I appreciate your kind words.
Really, pups, your encouragement means a lot to me.

That is a great idea keeping supplies with you. You never know who you might see that needs that. Great idea maybe I will go to Aldi’s and stock up. You are an inspiration. *g*

Still waiting for him to show up in Madison. (not)

I am so ready for a non-petty, non-coward in the White House.

Oh, I get home from work at around 3:30 every day, and every day ask the news junky of the house if the fucking Justice Department has showed up. Still waiting for that also.

My daughter lives in Milwaukee and she is just livid over what is going on there. She is a teacher. I hope the recall effort against Scott Walker is a success. I am pretty fed up with the political BS and I am turning my energies to occupy. I am going to help in anyway I can.

On edit: I guess my name is on the list now that I am a Firebagger.

I figured it out the hard way, after giving out food that I made or bought for myself that was in the car.
Yesterday, a lady told me she wanted a big cup to take part of her lunch to her dog. She said feeding him out of trash cans made him sick. I gave her two trays of food and several large empty coffee cups.
The more time I spend with people, the more I learn.

I think we are at the point in our society that we have to help each other through the hard times. All through history people have risen up to the challenges of the 1%. Nothing is new here the problem is the same.

I gotta take my daughter a jacket at school so I will see you fine people later. never give up.

That’s right. Besides helping out with necessities, they also really appreciate being treated kindly. You know how most people treat them. As much as homelessnes can fuel mental disorders in many, there are still a lot of people out there who are lucid, intelligent and love to have a real conversation with someone else.
Keep on keeping, Popeye. We all Can Make A Difference.

Very busy this week and am not keeping up with y’all. Bye.

Still waiting for him to show up in Madison. (not)

At this point I expect he would probably congratulate Walker on getting the state back into such “great,” shape.

He’ll waltz in claiming credit for a successful recall that he had, “certainly,” been in favor of all along, while saying that he was just too busy sending US troops to Australia to save us from a greater threat.

Demi,

I really appreciate your positive reports and actions for the homeless.

The best compliment that I can think of is that you provide the empathy much as Chrisy Hardin Smith did in founding this blog with Jane.

Thanks!

(((CHS))) and (((demi)))

JClausen,
I really appreciate your kind words. I grew up in a home where I heard the stories of how, during the depression, people helped each other out. When I started hanging out at the Lake, Jane’s commitment to information and action and Christy’s Big Heart inspired me and moved me to action.
Nonquixote is the one who suggested, when I was so glum about not being able to find a paying job, I find a place to volunteer.
Thank you, J.
PS (on edit) – my faith also encourages me very much. *g* And, I know you know what I mean.

I also thank you for your kind words to the people here at the Lake. Yours is a much needed voice here. Just my 2 cents.

Now I am off to swim (in a pool) so much to do so little time. Have a great day everyone.

Up On The Roof

I just checked back to take a look; I esp. like that it came from the heart of the 60s.;)