Statement from blooomberg

No right is absolute and with every right comes responsibilities. The First Amendment gives every New Yorker the right to speak out – but it does not give anyone the right to sleep in a park or otherwise take it over to the exclusion of others – nor does it permit anyone in our society to live outside the law. There is no ambiguity in the law here – the First Amendment protects speech – it does not protect the use of tents and sleeping bags to take over a public space.

Bloomberg’s 8 am press conference at City Hall is closed to the public.

http://www.livestream.com/occupy_liberty

And furthermore it doesn’t give anyone the right to call all my bankster friends criminals.

Just sayin..

Mornin’, BT, pups

“Such a large cut, applied in this indiscriminate manner, would render most of our ship and construction projects unexecutable — you cannot buy three quarters of a ship or a building — and seriously damage other modernization efforts,” Panetta wrote to the senators.

How many high tech ships does it take to engage a motorboat with a couple guys with guns? Here’s a newsflash for ya Panetta, the Cold War was over 20 years ago. Another Clintonista asshole.

Good morning BT and firepups,
A sign that I saw and came to love, “The message cannot be driven out”.
The powers see the Occupy movement spreading like a prairie grassfire and they are so fearful of the message so they have to destroy it while they can. It will not happen, not this time, and not this place!

Good morning, pups. I fear we are seeing the ratcheting up of actions against the Occupy movement. All of this tearing down of camps all in the same few days can’t be coincidental!

Ya had yer say. Now shut up and go away!!!

What was it Dylan said, mswinkle?

” …to live outside the law, you must be honest …”

Fortunately ONLY the Zucotti Park folks live “outside” the law … although a select few, about 1% and their “retainers”, get to live “above … and beyond” the law.

Oh, and good morning, everyone …

DW

I know I have said this before but if there is anyone on FDL that understands the first amendment and on what grounds it can be limited can they please do a story. We need this information asap and we need it one post and not scattered through a myriad of comments.

Where does the buck stop, msmolly?

And good morning to you and Ecahn, I could not stop laughing last night.
What a hoot…Thanks And, Good morning, All.

Good morning, RevBev.

Unfortunately, nothing funny going on this morning.

I wish I knew. The PTB are running scared and putting pressure on City Hall, and it’s working. I just hope it’s like whack-a-mole and the occupiers just keep popping up again and changing locations and tactics. But it’s getting pretty cold in the Midwest and the East and much more difficult for protestors to persist.

As long as raingear is not prohibited, I think Liberty Park will be full again tonight.

Since we have not been in a declared war in a half a century why do we need all this “hardware”?

Emperior bloomsburg”s news conference is up @ 8:00 to tell the 99% to STFU and go home because his dear 1%ers are getting so uncomfortable having to look at the Obamaville at their doorsteps.

Das homeland security ?

Dear Mayor Bloomberg, maybe you should read the First Amendment as it includes much more than free speech, like freedom of assembly to petition the government for grievances. I say we just call him Mayor Mubarak.

At least now the world knows the US is but a fake democracy, with fake freedom. It’s all plastic, made beautiful for you to look at and shiny, as long as you never try to use it.

Democracynow headlines announced that TRO to allow OWS back into the park, with their belongings.

The authoritarians are too late. The Occupy Movement has awakened a sleeping giant. They can be arrested, harassed and scattered but the message lives on. The mighty US military can’t kill the anti-US message coming from the Arab world nor can our jackbooted white shirts kill the message coming from Zuccotti Park.

Both of my cats and the dog were in complete agreement with your feline, Rev Bev, a genuine hoot. Truly funny, if somewhat unappreciated by a few “attendees” …

DW

dn covering midnight raid on OWS as first segment.

Good Morning, BT, RevBev and All Y’all Dawgies
I like to laugh. Which thread? Thanks.

Yes, grim, serious gravitas abounds, this dreary morn, eCAHN, one hears the rachets clipping “up” …

DW

Danny Alterman is lawyer who got TRO, reached a judge at 2am, now up on dn.

The 1% are not going to allow the 99% to continue to poke at them and get media coverage. I met a CIA guy a month ago by accident on the street while walking the dogs in LI… and he told me that they will first cause violence and riots and then they will haul them off to camps if they have to.

I suppose that’s next.

Wouldn’t it be easier to close the camp at high noon ?

Well said SD.

Judge’s name is Billings. 11:30a meeting with her.

Hey, early last night “What Broadcast needs….” A good laugh surely helps.

DW, Glad they were having fun. I had to look up one of your words ;)

Historical record of midnight raids is long & vulnerable. Meant to strike fear into hearts of all the others around.

On edit: It’s what the U.S. military does in Afghanistan & Iraq all the time.

TRO???

eCAHN,
Whatever belongings that they have left after the police destruction including the library. I wonder about the first aid supplies?

You still believe that dude was from the CIA? I’ve got some prime FL real estate for ya, right on the water. Sheesh.

A-camping we will go, a-camping we will go, hi ho the the merri-o … a-camping we will go.

Great to “see” you, SanderO, it has been a while since we were both on the same thread.

DW

The notice said OWSers could pick up property at a certain location, but Amy was there, saw them trashing it, putting it in dump trucks, and upon being asked, cops said that they were taking it to the dump.

Temporary restraining order.

Let us give Newtie credit. Michele Bachman does properly explain ObamaCare. The Obama “Health Insurance” reform is due to Newt Gingrich. Even, Mittens gives Newtie credit for the minor Obama Health Care changes. And the very right wing Heritage Foundation supported this Republican idea. The heritage Foundation is Dee Cee “Think Tank” for the one percent, that give President Obama ideas for Health Care and Empire building.

BACHMANN: Our candidate can’t be compromised. We have candidates that are compromised on the individual health care mandate, which is Obamacare. It was Newt Gingrich’s idea, and Mitt Romney implemented it…

Romney himself pointed this out in a debate, saying, “Actually Newt, we got the idea of the individual mandate from you…and the Heritage Foundation.”

The President gets a lot of his ideas from Republicans and the One Percent. His economic policies are from Billionaires, Ronald Reagan and Fox’s Billo The Clown OReilly.

It sounds like everything is gone, but, as usual, info is sketchy and uncertain right now.

Sounds like dn was filming during the night & will show some in next segment.

Prolly a free-lancer, SD, or maybe on “loan” to “Homeland” Insecurity … for some “infraction” … does sound like the proper “enthusiasm”, however.

DW

Temporary Restraining Order. Means that Bloomberg has to back off until this is litigated.

It also implies that the Judge doesn’t think much of Bloombergs chances in court, fwiw.

Boxturtle (Next step in an injunction)

One OWSer being interviewed said they got a tip from a reporter about an hour before the police moved in. I find that very interesting.

Er, um … which word was that, RevBev?

I simply could not take the “outrage” very seriously.

I be bad.

(But you know that, I’m certain.)

DW

I’ve known a couple spooks in my day but have yet to meet one who would announce to a stranger. He may have been retired, in which case what he says is opinion and we all know about opinions.

At least preliminary reaction of OWSers to raid seems to have energized them.

If that story is true, SanderO should expect a visit from some CIA types who will want to know whom the bigmouth is.

CIA employees rarely admit they are CIA, some are in fact ordered to lie and say they’re not. And nobody is allowed to just chat about operational activities.

Boxturtle (I could have lost my clearence just for mentioning a project name to my wife)

Bloom just said night raid necessary to avoid “Confrontation”

Nothing more dangerous than people who have nothing to lose. These are not the American sheep Bloomberg et al are used to dealing with.

destroying books, refusing media access. hitler and stalin would be proud

There’s at least one book that I’ve read by a CIA op that tells all bc author was thoroughly ashamed, and in the intro said that he did not abide by his agreement to have books precleared by CIA since CIA did not abide by any part of their agreement to him. I’ll be back with details.

That has been my experience as well, SD. Actual clandestine sorts don’t advertise … at least not to the public, anyhoo …

DW

Health & safety: every tent had a fire extinguisher, they had their own medical team.

I saw ID… it looked real… maybe he fooled me.

Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose

janis knew what she sang about

He was military intel with some sort of clearance from the CIA.. so he said
.

I know you worked at GS and other financial institutions. curious as to when you realized the depth of the corruption and that the FED was just a front for the operation.

The circumstances were that I asked him why he had 20 antennas on the roof of his car… and he told me he was in military intel.. and then decided to freak me out by showing me photos of antenna farms at military bases .. somewhere.. used for electronic eavesdropping.

Why would he bother? Why would he carry fake ID? Who knows…

Stockwell’s In Search of Enemies, about Angola 1975 op.

Bloomsburgs face looks like a blend of bush/nixon.

Perhaps a wanna be, toying with the idea … like those folks who pretend to be cops?

Else, Box is right, SanderO, and those listening in are checking their files and profiles … (Hey guys, we know yer just doing your job … orders … and all that … a tip of me tin-foil hat …)

DW

The intelligence community, military and civilian, is a huge bureaucracy. There are a lot more administrative types than operatives or analysts. People can live next to an analyst for 20 years and never know it.

Morning pups. There will be blowback. There always is.

I always thought management were morons. The closer I got to higher management, the more it reinforced my opinion.

As U.S. econ forecaster, I was not near any of the areas where the crooked stuff was going on, so I was not a first hand witness. Plus, I’ve been gone for nearly 12 years, the first 8 of which my attention was diverted to other matters, esp after 9/11.

After the housing bubble burst I redirected my attention and was shocked at how much worse it had gotten in the years since I left.

As for labor vs. corps, in my job as a forecaster, I also always recognized the asymmetry in power, and tried to do some new research in that area, which was short-stopped by my departure.

Antenna farms on military bases serve multiple purposes due to the variety of communication devices used. How many devices do ya think could fit into a vehicle, one antenna per device? Wouldn’t be room for people in the vehicle.

Loquacious type, I’d venture to say. One wonders why he chose you to share his identity with?

Perhaps “they” think you are a higher-up?

Mayhap you are a doppelganger, SanderO?

Don’t take any flights on Air Force One …

DW

Thanks, BoxTurtle and eCAHN. Brain not working this morning.

I am with you on the significant bit of awakening of the United States populace as a whole to the issues at hand. OWS had I believe, a limited window of effectiveness with the camping movement and no, I am not in favor of it being taken down, anywhere, in saying that.

I think this will force some attempts at widening strategies from the movement, itself. I am envisioning, occupy school boards, occupy town, city and county board meetings and occupy state capitol buildings such as WI last winter. I for one don’t have a whole bunch of other ideas at the moment but would like to hear any others.

Did you inspire OmAli into volunteering at a food bank? She’s off to her local food bank this morning. Wish I was retired so I could do something useful.

“Inaction was not an option. We could not wait for someone in the park to get killed”.

from Bloomberg overegged, dramatic

… always thought management were morons. The closer I got to higher management, the more it reinforced my opinion.

A Case Study in the Peter Principle.

Thanks for the response I was curious

I am envisioning, occupy school boards, occupy town, city and county board meetings and occupy state capitol buildings such as WI last winter.

We’ll be ahead of the game if just some those actions came to pass. I’m hoping people begin to do this. Apathy is no longer acceptable behaviour.

Older senior management on Wall Street provided the greed and momentum.
The younger quants provided the means to steal big time.

You know you have to bomb the village to save the village

I would agree with that assessment. They are all using safety reasons as to why they need to shut them down.

Good morning all. Going to my local bank today to acquire a new credit card to replace my BOA credit card. Didn’t check to see if FIA card services was BOA until someone pointed it out.

Okay, I’m back from scanning the comments on the Hoot Of The Week thread. I had been there earlier but switched up to Lisa’s Movie Salon.
I will say that some of you were in Very Fine form.
Rev Bev – coming…erections? I continue to admire you, gf.
And, DW – I didn’t know you were running for Mayor. I’d live in your town in a minute.
eCAHN – I cannot imagine for an instant why anyone would keep trying to go toe to toe with you. You have such a fine sense of humor and keen understanding too.
My list of Do Not Interact With keeps growing around here.

I dunno. But, if so, I’m glad. I do recall her saying something…but, I’ll have to contact her and get the juice.
You already contribute So Much to us, and I’m sure when it’s your turn, you will help in many other ways.

Off to swim in the great capitalist cesspool.

US KIA Afghanistan: 1,836

US KIA Irak: 4,483

Afghan, Iraki and Pakistani casualties: estimates vary to over 1.5M

US MBS 2011: 39,432 and counting

No Banker Left Behind

No war but class war

Be good to yourselves, and all other living things

Namaste

Never. Give. Up.

DN! headlines – OWS already gathering in Foley Park for a march.

Hey, Bloomberg and Wall Street greedheads, we’re comin’, motherfuckers!

Gotta go, pups. Taking my car for its pre-winter checkup and riding my bike home and then back to pick it up later.

And of course my best laid plans (this prolly will be the last bike day for awhile since it’s turning cold tomorrow) were foiled by this morning’s thick fog, which doesn’t work well for bicycles on busy roads.

But it’s brightening up, so I had better skedaddle. Have a great day, all! Continue the fight!

a commenter on another blog. captures the farce quite well

Bloomberg is asked about this: he says the action was taken to “protect the members of the press. We have to provide protection and we have done exactly that.”

Is Bloomberg seriously suggesting here that the journalists need to be protected? From who? From the protesters? The reference to people getting killed too. Does he think the Occupiers are killers? Is he suggesting that the media helicopter (if the report is true) was grounded because it could be shot down? Have the protesters become ‘terrorists’?

Ahhh, thank you Demi, but you must credit DW. I swear I could not quit laughing. I could not believe we had a hall-monitor there to shape us all up. Thanks for the replay.;)

mswinkle, thanks for staying around this morning. DW’s comment @7, first sentence, took me aback. I noticed right off that you were simply quoting Bloomberg’s bombastic speechifying.

Off for chores, then to help receive petitions for Walker’s last dance in this state.

I should have put quotation marks around that first sentence, nonquixote, and apologize for any confusions which such an unattributed paraphrase of Bloomberg’s dimissive polemic may have caused.

DW

I directed you yesterday to the fact that TarheelDemocrat linked an excellent article on these issues a day or two prior to October 23. You can search his comments for that time period to find it.

Yeah, that makes me think “mushroom cloud.” /s

Good morning, all you freedom lovers.

Running for mayor? For real?

Thanks DW,

I am not always that quick on picking up on nuance or intentions. Your clarification is very much appreciated.

I just went back to the Broadcast thread from last night. Man, the Clintonistas are really touchy, aren’t they? Any criticism of any of them brings out the worse in their blind faith followers. They sound like Zionists defending Likud and Lieberman’s fascist party. Addicted to Clinton. Gotta be a cure for that somewhere.

No, simply an accusation lodged against me. You would have to see it in context in the threads of Jon’s “Action” post regarding Chelsea … daughter of Bill and Hillary.

Merely one of the “hoots”, rc.

;~DW

Yes, now I’ve seen it. What a letdown. I would have moved to Pittsburgh just to be able to vote for you lol.

I got nothin’ :)

Except this

Why Walk When You Can Fly

I feel like anything is possible, this morning.