This kept US military recruiters off high school campuses until No Child Left Behind, which provided that public schools that wanted federal funding (all of them) had to provide student records and contact information to military recruiters, same as they did to colleges. Portland schools complied; the federal funding was too great to leave on the table over a principle like equal access regardless of sexual orientation, I guess.
But the hippies weren’t happy. They demonstrated, as hippies do when their peacenik desires are thwarted. They set up protests outside the high schools when the military came to recruit, and provided information to students about the war machine. They thought it was unfair the military could access their children freely, with the Military-Industrial Complex’s lies and ill-painted word pictures unchallenged by an alternative view of a country that didn’t spend more than the whole rest of the planet on war. Using widely available strategies, Portland peaceniks developed counter-recruiting to reach students being unfairly and solely pitched by the US military.
Now, it seems, the pro-peace recruiters are about to get their way:
The Portland school board is set to adopt a rule Monday to give “counter-recruiters” skeptical about the value of joining the military the same access to high school students that military recruiters enjoy under federal law.
Instead of standing out on the school sidewalk waving signs and offering fliers, as they have done regularly outside Portland high schools, anti-war activists will be able to staff recruiting tables and hand out pamphlets in the school career center or cafeteria, just like military recruiters in uniform.
So, if your high schooler comes home one day smelling of patchouli and wearing a peace sign amulet, and blames it on “the recruiters” — don’t worry, it’s not the Air Force Academy going soft. It’s simply the Army of One Hippie: the Peace Recruiters will provide a view of an alternative lifestyle to the video-game, shoot-em-up, go-to-war, get-your-education-paid-for, (did-I-mention-lose-your-legs?) United States Military recruiters.
Do the recruiters fight over high school kids or get hostile over their competing messages?
Kathy Barker, a PTA leader from Seattle’s Garfield High who was a prime force behind Seattle schools’ 2007 adoption of a peace-recruiter access policy said it doesn’t get ugly. Dozens of times in recent years, she’s staffed a peace recruiter table next to the military recruiter table at various Seattle high schools.
When the tables are set up in the career center, often three or fewer students come by that day, and the opposing recruiters spend the day chatting, she said.
When the tables are set up in the cafeteria, students are drawn to check out the side-by-side displays of military benefits and drawbacks, she said.
“There’s not the trouble school people thought there would be,” she said.
When your Portland high schooler comes home and asks to talk with you about a chat she had with “a recruiter at school today” be sure to ask: a war recruiter and a peace recruiter? And if you’re not in Portland, Seattle, or San Francisco, why not find out how to provide your own community’s high school students with the same kind of option? Doesn’t every high school student deserve the advantage of a balanced view of military service, an alternative to a recruiter compensated for the number of sign-ups at high school that day?
Why should the war machine have unchallenged access to our kids for their meatgrinder, without the students free to see the options side-by-side at Career Day?
For more information on counter-military recruiting, see the War Resisters League. For a model opt-out policy for your own local school system, please see Seattle’s current policy.




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I knew I should have moved to Portland.
Teddy!
Make love, not war! In my experience, that has much greater appeal to the youngsters.
teddy! i heart oregon
Teddy!
Peace!
Occupy The Universe!
Can you blame them? I’d take sex over getting targeted by anti-personnel fire any damn day.
Not to mention twenty mile hikes in full battle dress.
As a 20 yr vet, I’d like to see Americorps and the Peace Corps equally promoted…! I initially joined the Army for the College fund…! ;-)
*heh* They are a real B*tch, let me tell ya…! ;-)
Good evening all.
This seemed all of a piece with the #Occupy demonstrations: helping young people understand they have choices other than military service, and finding ways to emulate this program — even if starting with opt-out — in all our communities.
Hope everyone’s well tonight!
We called it ‘full battle rattle’…! ;-)
You still can, dear. It’s still here, awaiting your arrival.
Gotta keep that under our hats in the abstinence-only schools though, Doc!
me2
We have a lot of students go into the military for exactly that reason here.
I have a grandson on the way and the new family will be living in Marin or Sonoma soon. :)
The eligibility requirements are getting tighter and tighter; despite talking to kids about $71,000 college funds, many get as little as $2,400. (see the War Resisters League link in my post for more info)
Well, there is that. Maybe we could just get some cute hippie girls and boys to wander by and quietly pass the message. ;-)
I think that is because of the Republicans “supporting our troops.”
I only recouped about $49k from Uncle Sam, and I still owe another $20k in other Student Loans…! 8-(
I’d only add that my eldest is already straddled with a $149k bill in her pursuit of her Doctorate in Psychology…! 8-(
They were never overly generous, but at least they would generally support you through school if you lived modestly 30 years ago. I had friends that went all the way through school on their GI benefits and did not have to work like the rest of us. Of course back then they had Pell Grants and other scholarships so that for undergrads loans were generally only about half of the package.
That’s very exciting. I’m a great-grandmother now and it’s wonderful. Congrats.
One of my daughters owes $140,000 for a masters.
The other owes $75,000 for a masters.
My husband went through medical school in the early 70′s and it cost us $7,500 in loans. C.H.E.A.P.
That’s shocking! What kind of Masters and from where?
Universal education for all…! We need to demand for Student Debt forgiveness, and, adopt the same measures as most of the Industrial World does for a ‘free public education’ for all their citizens…!
I happen to agree…..I also know that is never going to happen. The MOTU would rather have foreign graduates that they can pay less than to educate their own people…..cause, really, the MOTU have homes all over the world and money stashed all over the place….and they don’t need no steenkin’ American kids. Talk about who is a patriot and who isn’t.
Congrats! The FDL Granny Club is getting bigger alla time.
It is not that unusual.
Acupuncture and Integrative Medicine for one
and
Nursing for the other.
Time for a Debt Jubilee.
Past time, actually.
Time for me to toddle off. All this talk about grandkids is making me feel old (mine are 14 & 15). Take care all.
So… how would everyone’s local school board react to a proposal to allow peaceniks in to recruit alongside the military at your high schools?
*heh* I ain’t no Granny, ya know there, Teddy…! *g*
I live in the last bastion of true DFH’s, we’re hep here in the Aina…! ;-)
Of course the best fix for the problem would be to cut the defense budget down to something halfway sane, say 10 percent of what it is now. Then it won’t be necessary to keep finding new suckers, er, I mean recruits.
You are a GrannyMan.
I loves me some ratfood!
and that looks good on ANY resumé…
backatcha! :)
Even if we slashed the DoD budget in half, we’d still be outspending the rest of the World in ‘Defense’…! *gah*
Good evening all.
Too much fried chicken for me today. :-(
Offense Spending is more like it.
Those are a lot bigger than my mortgages.
It’s is deceptive to even refer to it as “defense” spending. It should be called what it is, The Money Trough For Military Contractors & Oil Companies Budget.
A big amen/right on, brother.
So good to be seeing you again, lighter Rat.
Saved a little bite of meatloaf for Bob. Right here.
Bob says thank-ya, thank ya verra much… :)
The Money
TroughTeat For Military Contractors & Oil Companies Budget.Fixed…! ;-)
Right, like TOO much fried chicken is even possible. “g”
But eCAHN is a high achiever!
Oh, gawd. We’re watching The Pianist. Jews in Poland during the Holocast. I must be crazy. I can’t watch it sitting down. Have been pacing and we’re talking about Authoritarians and who we humans are.
It’s painful.
Am I a masochist? Maybe yes, maybe no. Just trying to face some stuff.
It’s sitting in a salty lump in my stomach.
A friend & I did some chores together. She picked me up before I’d eaten anything more than an apple, one of the chores was pick up a few items at supermarket, and I was really hungry. BAD to go food shopping while hungry. I couldn’t resist the fried chicken & ate too much.
You’re probably right, although I enjoy hearing the semi-literate (aka average American) mispronounce words like “trough.”
Compliments will get you nowhere.
It’s not pronounced Troag?
You can’t fool me, and yes I’m hiding from the movie.
I’m boggled by the debts your girls will have to pay off…..I thought student loans had to be paid back in 10 years (with some delays allowed for special circumstances)….but I could be wrong about that. I’m sure they had a repayment plan when they took the loans, but, wow, that just seems so daunting.
I indulge in fried chicken about once every year or two. My kick recently has been to season a pork chop or boneless skinless chicken breast and bake it in cream of mushroom soup. It satisfies my chief requirements in that (a) takes about five minutes to prepare and (b) tastes pretty good.
I agree. Along with medical costs, I been watching college tuitions strangle the U.S. economy for 2 decades.
You can get an extended plan for 25 years. That fucker Bush gave the loan program to the banksters. One of my girls has 8% on most of her loans. If you are late they default to a credit card like interest rate. Now you know why so many young people are at OWS. And you cannot do away with the loans via bankruptcy. Besides back taxes, student loans can be taken from your paycheck or even your social security.
Since 1970 the cost of tuition has gone up 600%. More than housing.
Hi Dearie. It’s astounding, but we’re looking to take out loans for Sonny to go to college. As I’ve said before, what’s he going to do, go work at a Taco Bell? He’s brilliant and deserves a higher education.
Compliments will get you nowhere.
They never do…! ;-)
I used to make meals like that; loved them; still do. But it got boring after awhile so I started doing more creative cooking, which I’ve enjoyed a lot. The only reason why I caved into fried chicken today, which I prolly wouldn’t have eaten for another year, is bc I went to the supermarket really hungry and there it was right under my nose when I was headed to checkout after picking up the milk. I hate that supermarkets manipulate customers by putting eggs & milk as far away from the checkout as possible.
I put myself through college at a CA state college on a part time job. No loans. Incredible. It breaks my heart what kids these days have to do.
Not as bad as this movie I’m watching though. That’s Tho, not thog.
We’re lucky in CA, demi, that there are still good junior colleges and state colleges and universities. When my kids were in college we all chipped in: parents, grandparents, and kids themselves and they took out loans that they could reasonably pay back. Glad my kids got through the system before it came to what it is now. Can’t imagine what will happen with my grandkids.
It has to reverse itself. No one should be expected to live with that burden.
I did my analysis in 1991 with data going back to 1967. Along with medical & legal, it was toward the top of the ranking. Tobacco, an addictive product, already layering on taxes, was at the top of the ranking. I dubbed med, legal & higher ed the mafia of the intelligentsia (MOI). It is the knowledge gap betw buyer & seller that gives the seller the pricing power, and mafia rather than cartel bc the customer is vulnerable (sick, in trouble with the law, making lifetime decisions at a young age), which gives the seller even more pricing power.
You speak the truth, dear dearie.
We live in paradise. Almost as good as Portland. Ha!
That’s what I’ve been watching to see: how it would all end. End can’t be good, can only be disaster.
Med has been higher profile than college tuition. That seems to get worse at an accelerating pace bc the individual entities (docs) got overtaken by insurance corps & PhRMA that were big enough to buy pols, which of course gives them even more license to steal.
On edit: Nothing like the disaster finance has visited on the U.S. economy of course, but all are signs that the economy is as f’d in every way possible.
I know it’s a good movie but I’ve only watched excerpts. I’ll get around to it one of these days. Probably better to watch something set in WWII Poland early in the day though. Not the best thing to go to bed on.
We live in paradise.
*heh* Speak for yourself, M’dear…! ;-)
Really. The whole adrenaline thing probably wasn’t meant for long term.
One of the things I’m seeing in watching this movie is just how strong the urge to survive is.
My daughter that went to nursing school and got her masters went to j.c’s, San Diego State and Sonoma State. She worked full time, too. Still owes $75,000.
Two movies I never could make myself watch: Sophie’s Choice and Schindler’s List.
Oh, I meant the Other paradise. *g*
Oh hell. Compared to the karmic hell debt we have as Americans, what’s a few thousand dollars more?
But, your girls are happy and healthy. Baby? That’s fabulous.
The urge to survive and procreate. Make music, make food, make love.
Tangentially related. When we went to visit my distant relatives in Poland a decade ago, my son, whose father, German Jew who left with his family at age 13 after Krystallnacht, went to Poland with a real chip on his shoulder. I told him that the people he would meet had nothing to do with concentration camps and what happened to Jews there, as they born after that. So he was polite.
Without any urging from me, Auschwitz was included on the places we visited, as were some other historic Jewish synagogues and sites. They are maintained by the Polish govt and volunteers even though very few Jews remain in Poland. My relative, very R.C., volunteers to help maintain Jewish cemeteries. I was quite surprised. I had expected far less.
On edit: This also caused me to reflect on the fundamental nature of Poland and countries that acknowledge their real history, as opposed to the U.S. which refuses to officially confront anything negative in its own history. Looking forward not backward didn’t begin with O.
Tis a shame the Israelis are implementing the same Nazi tactics as the Warsaw Ghetto, etc…! 8-(
I watch WWII documentaries pretty regularly. Keep trying to comprehend the incomprehensible I suppose.
I am to the point, like with U.S. econ policy, where I can’t even have a conversation about Israel.
They learned how to throw a pogrom from the masters.
I’m always game, M’dear…! *g*
Best I ever ran into was a college course on 3rd Reich by Teaching Corp. I run up a link. You can download it. The prof is great, and looks at it from a mis en scene POV, that is Germany’s late and quick industrialization, its division betw industrialized north & agrarian R.C. south, which could be exploited politically, its devasting defeat in WWI when the generals were telling pop they were just on the verge of winning (story starting to have some familiar resonance), etc etc.
I’ll be back with the link.
On a brighter note, looks like we have a couple days of Indian Summer coming so I’m off to get rested up (so I can squander them like I do most days). :)
Wishing a splendid evening to all.
Here it is. It’s a MUST listen. Childers is super great.
Thanks, I’ve saved the link.
Nighters and pats and scritches to Cahnstance.
Your stomach is stronger than mine, witnessed by fact that I’m still up digesting my fried chicken.
Tickle Bob under his chin for me. (Do birds have chins?)
Sleep well.
Does a lower mandible count as a chin?
Any hand outstretched to Bob better come bearing gifts… “g”
I’m not shy ya’ll…! I’ve got lln upstairs…!
Speaking of Cahnstance, she’s sleeping in her bed right next to the wood stove in the kitchen.
I finally remembered that the way to prevent it from burning out overnight is to start the night with a thick bed of live coals in the bottom before adding the new wood for the night. It’s too warm outside (haven’t had a frost yet) for this method, but too much of a drag to have to start it up from scratch in the morning. So it’s pumping away, 75 degrees on the other side of the room, and prolly 80 where Cahnstance is, but cats can never be too warm.
You tells me his faves & I’ll provide them. He’s a handsome fellow; it would be a pleasure.
G’night, sweetie.
Try a cup of warm milk.
See you tomorrow.
G’Night to Ratty and Bob too.
The world will survive on its own while rest for a few.
Way cool news and call to action, thanks. :)