Here’s a recent, and particularly apt, example:
If you read this Politico piece by Tim Mak about the Thursday evening meeting of the New York Real Estate Board, you’d likely be thinking that all of New York is in a towering rage over the dirty filthy Communist hippies defiling a public space:
Dowtown New Yorkers furious with the continued presence of the Occupy Wall Street protesters vented angrily at a community board meeting Thursday, according to reports.
The desire to complain about the demonstrators was so widespread that the line to speak at the meeting wound its way outside the board’s office and into the street, the New York Post said. At least several hundred people showed up to the board meeting.
But if you read Cynthia Kouril’s liveblog of the meeting, you’d know that the majority of the people that spoke at the meeting were strongly in favor of Occupy Wall Street — and said that the excessive police presence and blockading, ridiculously out of proportion to the “threat” posed by persons dedicated to civil protest, was the real problem:
7:45 PM EST
Two young people from OWS get up and point out that they are Occupying on behalf of everybody, not just themselves.
A gentleman from 120 Cedar Street supports OWS and says that the real noise problem is the jackhammers drilling all the time.
7″47 PM EST
Mr. Cedar Street wants to put pressure on the City to allow porta potties.
Another woman says she lives in area and the real problem is the police. They won’t let her pass through on her bike to get home. She supports OWS.
Yet another WASPY patrician looking woman says that she has been made a prisoner in her own apt, but not by OWS, by the police. She thinks they are overreacting. She supports OWS
7:50 PM EST
71 year old woman says police barricades are endangering her life, not OWS.
Local merchant complains about the barricades too. Say the barricades are disrupting business not OWS.
Go to Cynthia’s post and read the whole thing.
The upshot is the protesters are allowed to stay — and will likely get something they’ve wanted for a while, permission to have porta-potties on site.
Hey, Politico and Murdoch Post: Looks like most of the folks lined up to attend the New York Real Estate Board meeting were fans, not foes, of Occupy Wall Street. Why did you go out of your way to imply otherwise? Hmmm?
UPDATE: Politico‘s Tim Mak responds to an FDL reader, listing the various sources he cites. What he doesn’t mention is what Dakine01 points out: that one of his sources, the NBC New York story, backs up the FDL liveblog in most respects — in part by including that which Mak doesn’t mention, for instance this quote from one of the many area business owners and residents in attendance who said that the real problem isn’t the protesters, but the police barricades:
Some said the inconvenience associated with the protest is more a product of the police response. Vincent Alessi, who helps manage Bobby Vans Steakhouse, said business was down 50 percent at certain hours because police have placed metal barricades in front of his restaurant.
“That’s the NYPD,” Alessi said. “The protesters have been peaceful. They march by the restaurant, no one causes any damage.”
The fact that the result of the meeting is in line with the OWS proposal, and the Board’s resplution includes a declaration of support for OWS, really tells the tale of who got it right.
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Part of the Wurlitzer of the 1%ers.
Oh, and not only are the Occupiers allowed to stay, they’re likely to be allowed porta-potties — which they’ve been wanting for a while now.
Porta-potties, especially if kept clean, will make for handy emergency shelters come winter.
I make it a point to remind everyone that several media outlets touted as “mainstream” — Politico, Real Clear Politics, etc. — are in fact right-wing Republican enterprises.
By the way: Good morning! Has the frost come yet in your neck of the woods?
No frost yet.
I think there’s not a media person around who isn’t touting 1%ers anymore. Trying to think where I heard that recently. Someone who used to work for one of the MSM, who’s now out on his ear bc he didn’t toe the line. They don’t need to be told what to say & what not to say, if they’ve graduated from kindergarten.
seems to me if the media outlet is corporate owned it will have a corporate agenda
Thank you very much, PW, for pointing us to this Huge disparity in reporting. Right on to Cynthia too.
We have the bestest reporters, rah cheer.
Heh. Any time I make that point to my crazy right wing friend, he acts like his head is gonna explode. He prefers to believe that the slaves run every plantation.
They do their best to hide it, for obvious reasons.
Good morning! 20 Occupiers arrested for trespass here in The City Beautiful. Those arrested include a marine, army dude, handicapped man and…. ready.?… an eagle scout.
By the way, eCAHN, this comment of yours from Cindy’s post thread is quite apt:
I would also add that the cruelty has been dressed in pseudo-ethical ribbons courtesy of both Ayn Rand and grievously tortured takes on the Pentateuch and the New Testament.
Thanks, PW. Can’t stay to chat, chores are calling and I spent FAR too much time at PUAC. But I will read Cynthia’s post. I avoid Politico, but didn’t know Real Clear Politics (which I seldom read) was also rightwing.
Wow! What were they accused of doing, blocking the sidewalk?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RealClearPolitics
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All Eagle Scouts are traitorous Commie moles. Everybody knows that.
re: noise. The guy from 120 Cedar Street @ 7:45 is absolutely right. I commuted to high school in manhattan fr NJ everey day for 4 years. There was ALWAYS construction on something going on. Every. Single. Day. No exaggeration. It was just part of commuting life. Kinda just got used to it. Anybody who says noise is a problem–from what I’ve seen on livestream- is full of shit.
The response to #OWS seems pretty universally in favor of the protesters and believes the reaction by police is a huge over reaction. The exceptions of course are the PTB and their toady media. I was thinking the other day how this makes me think of the Bonus Army of the (first) Great Depression. People who
failrefuse to learn from history are always doomed to repeat it.Oh, even more right wing than Politico.
park was closed. people on sidewalk weren’t arrested. they had been in the park without incident and got a couple visits from a couple cops on previous nights and those were boarderline frendly. cordial. no incident. last night a bunch of cop cars about 2-3 a.m. why do they pull this shit in the middle of the night? so there is no attention? the orlando webcam was pretty shitty but still watchable. sorta. but it was all very peaceful.
Hey PW & CK: There you go again, screwing up the canned, bullshit narrative with a bunch of pesky facts.
was gonna say i need to take a shower and get down to the occupation and see what’s happening. maybe i shouldn’t. take a shower that is. i’m sure the people there are all dirty and smelly. they all are. that pretty blonde TV lady said so. must be true. i don’t have any drums to bring. my hair is….not long but seedy my mom would say. no drums, no long hair. least i can do is be smelly. skippin’ the shower.
Nice.
really. they do great stuff.all the people here are. getting the TRUTH out. it’s not like playing telephone anymore-by the time news gets to you it’s just a fucked-up rumor. not any more. viva la techology-ia!
Copy that. Just another one of about a billion reasons why net neutrality is so critical.
Skip the shower, break out the bongos and you’ll be good to go.
Don’t forget the patchouli.
Love this caveat, from Wiki:
Edit to add: I am not actually sure I have EVER read Real Clear Politics, although I must have seen them quoted or linked to, because the name was familiar.
I make a point of not following links if I can identify them as Politico.
Fuck the fucking patchouli!!!! Aaarrgghhhh!!!!
show the assholes a light, and they will follow it anywhere. Politico, Drudge, Fox are their light. The 1% are wholly predictable, the minority of the 99% who enable them through their ignorance are the real problem to positive change.
The enablers of the 1%, are basically the sociopaths and bigots in our society. I see them and have to talk to them everyday. They are really disgusting people, but there seem to be a lot of them in my part of the country.
Story on page 2
Thank, PW. It always amazes me that some folks think these are “reliable” sources.
And yea Cindi!!!! Always fabulous in HER reporting!
Impudent fleshie! ;-)
I’ll meet you halfway with “freshie”
Are you going back to Occupy Atlanta today?
John Boehner is going to be here Thursday and I’m hoping we will give him a warm reception :)
And then there was Carol Costello with Christine Romans on CNN in a spot segment on OWS: Costello’s hollow-cheeked face took on looks of revulsion and disbelief as she reacted to the peaceful, compassionate, sane words of one of the members of the OWS finance committee. You could ‘see’ her thinking “these people are just… well… ICKY!”
Costello’s visceral reaction to protestors of the unjust and corrupt system which employs her in order to exploit her attractive face and willingness to expose her legs to her thighs is emblematic of the 1% attitude, whether she is one of them or not.
If we didn’t have the innertoobz and net neutrality, there would be no way to circumvent the msm propaganda.
BTW, in the movie The Four Seasons, Jack Weston, the dentist, is preparing to move to Los Angeles and while he is saying goodbye to Alan Alda the jackhammers and heavy equipment are making a huge racket. Weston says to Alda (paraphrase), I love this city, call me when they finish building it.
It would be interesting, though, to know what percentage of the 99% still get their information primarily through the corporate msm.
I think that npr has to be included in corporate msm. Pacifica listeners may be declining because of some bad management, especially in NYC, so they are desperately trying to win them back. All in all, probably most get the majority of their news from corporate msm, but still realize that there is a big problem because the msm can’t make the falling incomes and lack of jobs go away.
No way, that would imply that you are made of “fresh.” “Fleshie” highlights the essential difference between actual persons and corporations. That is why you must give in and embrace it. ;-)
I’m going to Occupy Atlanta today, but there’s some question as to whether I’m going to be at an OWS demo or a Hip Hop festival. Perhaps both. I’ll be wearing my, “Fleshies Unite!” sign.
Though I doubt that Lawrence Welk would have been on their side.
On further consideration, I wll accept your compromise offer of “freshie” if and ONLY if, you can prove that you are a native Japanese speaker lol.
John Harris and his merry band of right-wing, I-know-more-than-you-so-there Klan of hacks over at Politico always get their direct infusion of propaganda from the Murdoch vat of Cheeeny glug every morning.. They start pitching hate way before you and I are even awake yet…
Sorry lot of mutts they are……
Oh really, he says that? But of that 1.5 hours that he says was missed, how much of that made it into his and the NYPost’s reporting?
Somehow I doubt that the tenor of the comments made by OWS’ neighbors switched 180 degrees from anti- to pro-OWS once Cindy’s liveblog started. Methinks a lot got left out of those 1.5 hours, and most of it was stuff that didn’t fit the narrative that Politico and Murdoch Post want to push.
Plus, Mak managed to conveniently miss that the local NBC report he linked to backed the Live blog in most respects.
Here’s feedback from Mak in response to my inquiry:
Here’s the inquiry:
10/22/2011 Dear Tim: In regards to story about OWS and residents’ “rage”, I’d refer you to: http://firedoglake.com/2011/10/22/come-saturday-morning-in-which-cynthia-kouril-kicks-politicos-republican-1-ass/ While this rebuttal has its own biases (e.g., issue of noise during working v. non-working hours), I’d have to say that your headline would appear to be, while technically accurate, at best misleading. Further, this rebuttal to your article is based on the reporter being present at the event. I believe this raises a fundamental issue of whether POLITICO is in the business of “reporting” or “persuasion.” Best regards, Jeff
And his reply:
Jeff – thanks for reaching out and your concern.
If you take a look at the New York Post and FireDogLake impressions of the event, you come away with two totally different ideas:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/angry_manhattan_residents_lambast_RjpTU0jG2z9yrgf5o4bRcO#ixzz1bPHgxmGZ
http://my.firedoglake.com/cindykouril/2011/10/20/real-estate-board-to-meet-tonight-to-try-to-outlaw-ows-sleeping-in-park/
I cite four different reports in attempt to paint a picture of what happened
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/66534.html
You’ll notice the FireDogLake liveblog doesn’t mention the things the other stories refer to, all of which also had reporters at the event. In fact, although the liveblog covers 1 hour of the meeting, it started at 6pm. The blogger leaves out 1.5 hours of the meeting before that.
Best,
Tim
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Tim Mak
Reporter, POLITICO
Thank you,
POLITICO
Politico.com
I thought you were off to Occupy. I’ll catch up with you later.