With nine percent unemployment and Americans desperate for job creation, it is unconscionable that President Obama and House Republicans would push through a trio of NAFTA-style job-killing trade agreements that even the government’s own studies show will increase the U.S. trade deficit.
This represents a complete flip-flop for President Obama, who won crucial swing states by pledging to overhaul our flawed trade policies. So it is no surprise that a sizeable majority of Democrats in Congress voted against these agreements, against Obama and for American jobs.
Today a larger share of House Democrats voted against a Democratic president on trade than ever before. It took Bill Clinton nearly eight years of NAFTA job losses, sell outs and scandals to have nearly two-thirds of the House Democrats vote against him on trade.
Given the strong Democratic opposition, ultimately it was the Tea Party GOP freshmen who passed these job-killing deals despite their campaign commitments at home to stand up for Main Street businesses, against more job offshoring and for Buy American requirements. The three pacts explicitly ban Buy America procurement policies. The Korea FTA is projected to increase the trade deficit, with seven U.S. industrial sectors hardest hit and job losses of 159,000 in its first seven years.
Members of Congress that voted for these job-killing agreements – backed by Wall Street and America’s most notorious job-offshoring corporations and harmful to American workers, small business and consumers – will face a reckoning as the damage of these pacts hits home. We promise to closely track and publicize every development.
Everyone is asking what the Obama administration could have been thinking to push the sorts of NAFTA-style trade deals that polls show majorities of Democrats, Independents and even GOP voters oppose as job killers, especially after the lesson of the 1993 NAFTA vote, when a Democratic president’s blurring of the distinctions between the parties on trade and jobs caused a disgruntled base to stay home.
Every election cycle, more Democrats and GOP are campaigning against these sorts of NAFTA-style trade pacts. Given this and the high unemployment rate, it will be very rough for those officials who then betrayed folks at home and voted for these deals loved only by Wall Street and job-offshoring corporations.
Record of Congressional Democratic Opposition to Democratic Presidents on Trade Pacts
-82.3% of House Democrats opposed the Colombia FTA (158 Democrats against, 31 for)
-67.7% of House Democrats opposed the Korea FTA (130 Democrats against, 59 for)
-64,1% of House Democrats opposed the Panama FTA (123 Democrats against, 66 for)
-60.6% of Democrats opposed NAFTA (1993)
-35% opposed the WTO (1994)
-65.56% opposed China PNTR (2000)
Record of Congressional Democratic Opposition to GOP Presidents on Trade Pacts
-62.6% opposed the Chile FTA (2003)
-62.14% opposed the Singapore FTA (2003)
-41.3% opposed the Australia FTA (2004)
-39.32% opposed the Morocco FTA (2004)
-92.6% opposed the Central America Free Trade Agreement (2005)
-40.4% opposed the Bahrain FTA (2005)
-87.6% opposed the Oman FTA (2006)
slightly more than half opposed the Peru FTA (2007)
Lori Wallach is the Director of Public Citizen’s Global Trade Watch




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Congressional jag offs whether Republican or Democrat are traitors to the working and middle class and deserving of a traitors fate. They are in the employ of the corporations and not the American people. Occupy Wall Street and sweep the corrupt political class onto the trash heap of history. How’s that for an opening comment?
I wonder how sell out Doggett voted on these bills. Some how it won’t surprise me if he did. He needs to go away in 2012.
Um, no. Not if you read O as doing the opposite to what he says.
Shame on you, Barack Obama!
Some people just don’t bother to pay attention. The pull of the “fairy tale” is just too strong.
This is sort of why I don’t really understand the protest movement. It’s not like our elected officials don’t know the positions of their constituents…. they don’t care.
We’re not who they answer to in any useful way.
Lori, will you be joining any of the Occupy Wall Street, DC, LA, Boston, Cleveland, Lansing, Sacramento, Philly etc.?
Not just corporations, they are also in the pockets of the investment class. I’ve watched Wall Street cheer for years every time a job was shipped to some third world or a company cut its staff. Nevermind that it meant that the quality of products often diminished or that it meant that another American would be forced into a sector that requires increased reliance on government. All that mattered is the short term, not the long term.
I know (wonk spelled backwards) that she is using the party system as a straw man. Don’t know whether she is doing it as a useful foil or whether she still thinks it matters.
I’m waiting for an answer to the “Occupy Wall Street” question. Maybe there was a soiree in DC where she could rub shoulders with David Brooks, Cokie Roberts, Gwen Ifill and George Will, et al munching on cocktail weenies, and drinking fine imported wines all sharing a good laugh.
Remember, it’s vitally important to re-elect Barack Obama, or a Republican President will pass these kinds of trade deals.
Tomorrow the fraud now residing the in WH is visiting an auto plant in Michigan of all places along with the Prime Minister of South Korea. Oh happy days!
More Democrats would have voted in favor of this misnamed Free Trade Agreement, but could not because they have to face their constits for re-election.
There is no Democrat that is worth his salt. As long as these shit bills pass, that’s all the one percenters care about. The one percenters are who the Democrats serve.
As we know, they jockey around with the vote counts, insuring passage of Bills that help to wreck America.
Once they know they have the votes, they allow as many hyenas as possible to vote nay. Generally, these hyenas are the Democrats who must face the wrath of their voters back home the soonest.
Lying, thieving, scumbags. As bad as Rethuglicans.
There’s a word for Obama and it rhymes with ‘anchor’.
How can you introduce a ‘jobs bill’ and then blithely put forward jobs destroying ‘trade deals’?
Ye Gods!
Exactly! I voted for him and I’m really mad now!
Jeffrey Immelt as “Jobs Czar”???
How many thousands of jobs has GE moved overseas?
And, ALL fixes from Obama for the fix we’re in, are nothing but kabuki-theater, at this point.
14 lonnng months…
It’s great that large portions of Democrats voted against trade deals. However, the numbers should have been 100% and if it wasn’t then there should have been primary opposition launched from folks who would have voted against them. Far too often I see groups allow this to devolve into a Republican versus Democrat rather than making this a free trader vs fair trader issue that it belongs being.
You diminish your effectiveness when you paint this as a “party” issue.
For the record, the bills passed so this wasn’t a “win.” Perhaps its time to change tactics and look beyond the party labels and ask yourself why the Democrats who did help pass this felt they were capable of doing so without repercussion (hint: they figure you’ll give them a pass because the alternative is a Republican.)
http://nationaljournal.com/congress/congress-approves-free-trade-pacts-with-colombia-panama-and-south-korea-20111012
Obama can go to hell. I now believe he was born in another place. Finally, something we and the Tea Party can agree on.
What we are witnessing is a train wreck of a re-election campaign for the OBAMA WH.
with House Dems jumping off the Obama titantic in record numbers, this means House Dems know the OBAMA titantic is sinking fast.
the Dem leadership has to be horrified at the sight of their base leaving them in droves. “the Dem elite fears a bottom up take over of the Dem party, their night mare may come true!” for LOL
“Obama greatest accomplishment may be helping progressives take over the DEM Party and kick all the Clinton Phonies out!”
Does anyone think Obama will stop the XL tar sand pipeline? anyone?
nothing new here for UNION membership!Union members hate OBAMA and the WH knows this fact.
the House Dems jumping ship on OBAMA is the story here!
How many Dems in 2012 will be seeking photo ops with OBAMA? ZERO
Record Democratic Opposition matters not one whit. There were a sufficient number of Democrats to vote in favor to make it pass. There always are.
Consider The Patriot Act, HCR, Gutting of FISA and Retroactive Immunity for Telco, Defense Budgets, Repeal of Glass-Steagall and The Securities Modernization Act,
There will be a sufficient number of Democrats to vote for Social Security and Medicare Cuts when the sufficient number of Democrats on the Deficit Commission make the recommendation to do so.
AARP is already selling it (Necessary smallish Cuts to Medicare – On Front Cover this month).
unfucking believable, i’ve never seen a party vote so overwhelmingly against a president of their own party……oooops, i got confused and thought Barry was a democrat, my bad. What a fucking joke this guy is, he’s got to be the greatest deception act since Houdini.
So, he lost the environmentalists when he traded corporate profits for lives killed by smog. Now he’s killed off labor conclusively. Oh yeah, he might have the independent vote.
The script that Goldman Sachs gave Barry tells him to lose in 2012, there can be no other explanation for this kind of shit taking place. Goldman wants him gone next year, time to bring in Mitt to just institutionalize fascism, once and for all.
The revolution will not be televised.
You realize Public Citizen was one of Nader’s main groups, right? They ain’t no DC insider group, and definitely are not a veal pen group. They’ve been bashing “free” trade deals and deregulation whoever was in office since they were founded. They’ve been ripping into Obama for the Korea FTA since way before the progressive blogosphere caught on to the issue (and then promptly forgot it). No need to demand bona fides and shit all over somebody who’s been independent of the two party system long before a lot of commenters around here.
Anyone, anyone else but this ahole in 2012. I’ll kick in $50 for a Republican that can beat him. Everyone should vote for the best candidate, in the Republican primary. Don’t waste your time in the Democratic primary.
Sorry, but until FDL comes out and argues for the defeat of Obama in 2012 this stuff is just the same old rhetoric. “Obama is bad”, Republicans are worse. Take note. there’s NO WAY the Repubs could’ve passed all the Republican Bills Obama has.
2012 MUST be a referendum on Obama. FDL’s been building the argument why Obama MUST not be given another 4 years, sooner or later it MUST take a stand.
Good to see that government officials can agree on one thing at least: that corporate wealth and profits are more important than anything else.
I hear very little “The Republicans are worse” anymore. People are waking up. We know the score. It is a shame no one from the left will stand up to him.
This is an important question. Should FDL take a stand? Or is the role of FDL to provide reliable information and a place for discussion so that its members can make up their own minds?
I don’t know the answer. I think the question deserves consideration.
I really believe that if enough people switch parties that we can make a difference in the Republican party. If nothing else, it will confuse the hell out of the Koch brothers.
Lori, thank you so much.
On another outstanding FDL Webinar, you were a luminary, who kept it accessible.
Bingo! Pretty words don’t matter. At the end of the day the bills passed and they did so with some Democratic support. How or why anyone with a real commitment to their issue would come here and spin the fact that their issue lost as some great ideological Democratic win is beyond me.
If I were this group leadership I’d be looking at finding someone more aligned with my interests to primary the Democrats who voted yes on these deals. Then again I’m issue oriented, not star struck by party platforms that aren’t followed.
Although to be fair this is far from the only group that is willing to compromise its principles in the name of 2% less evil. The womens’ groups have made it into an art form. A democrat can vote present on choice and get a pass(as a matter of fact that was the case with THIS President.)
FDL takes a stand every hour! FDL tells the truth
unlike
CNN
ABC
MSNBC
CBS
New York Times
NBC
(imagine trying to learn the truth from the corporate media? God Bless FDL)
The information FDL provides helps a lot of groups come to grips with the idea, the tea party already has their man in the WH OBAMA
A lot of progressives and union members use to think OBAMA was a great guy,Obama was cool, love beer, spoke well, etc, etc, now they know he is Sarah Palin with a jump shot
Remember when we all were outraged because Mark Penn had consulted with Columbia on how to pass the trade deals? And Hillary Clinton was forced to fire him off her campaign because everybody cared about all the dead labor leaders?
Some of us are still outraged about the dead labor leaders.
Public Citizen is despised by virtually every politician in DeeCee, and beyond.
I’ve actually kicked around that idea. After all it’s a party realignment that got us blue dogs. Who says we couldn’t necessarily advance causes like choice within the party by affiliating yourself with that party and calling yourself a Republican for choice?
If you don’t HATE Obama, then you don’t love America.
FDL, as an entity, is not going to endorse any candidate. Jane has said that repeatedly. And I think you know that. But the Lake, as an entity, not actively calling for Obama’s defeat will give you and others something to complain about until the sun falls from the sky.
do they drug test on blogs? because you must be high!
Obama the so call Democrat just push to have this trade deal pass? who force him to this?
things OBAMA do! with no help and no problems
Obama keeps the USA war
Obama saved the Bush Tax Cuts
Obama gave Wall Street 16 trillion
Obama wants to take away 3 trillion plus from the 99%
Obama got NAFTA type of trade deal pass today, in the middle of a Depression
I got it? you are a comedian
What’s it like being a “hater”? Wastes a lot of energy and has no discernible benefits.
Remember when so many people managed NOT to be outraged when Goolsbee accurately told a Canadian official not to take anything Obama said about renegotiating NAFTA seriously? He had to say those things in the Ohio primary. It’s not like he meant them.
If you want to go cheer for or against a presidential candidate, there are probably more comfortable places for you than FDL. We hated the primaries and didn’t take a position for any candidate because we didn’t feel comfortable being tribalistic partisans. We were trying to use the election as a time to force everyone into better positions, and you lose that opportunity if you start taking sides. I think we’re one of the few places that can look back at what we wrote in 2008 without extreme embarrassment because of it.
We have fought hard to stake our identity to being an issue-based blog (regardless of who is in power), rather than a personality-based or party-based blog. The kind of personality-based tribalism you’re looking for has not worked well for us, and I don’t see that changing.
Right on.
Um… sarcasm, man. Relax…
Times are touchy. When in doubt, use a snark tag = /s
FDL is one of my favorite websites, however I don’t care if they endorse or not endorse any candidate.
Someone, please. How can this guy think he can get reelected when he repeatedly disappoints his base?
I do remember that. I also imagine a certain someoone is going to have a difficult time convincing Ohio that he’s really going to renegotiate NAFTA this time (maybe he’ll pinky swear!) Be funny if it wasn’t so sad…
Can someone provide a link(s) to how the beloved Congress people voted on the FTA’s?
1) Dem loyalists, mostly older, who would vote for Attila the Hun (he’s dead, remember?) if he had a (D) behind his name
2) The low info voters for whom “We suck less” is sufficient reason. As they get older they drift into the upper category. Not to be confused with
3) The “evil of two lessers” voters, the ones who hold their nose when they vote. As they smarten up they become radicals.
4) Various and sundry voters whose votes they don’t understand. “Why’d you vote for x?” “I don’t know, I [fill in rationalization of choice].”
5) Who knows.
Reasonably sure that was snark.
Or a Republican president will appoint more SCOTUS wingnuts. That’s the other threat that’s being used to scare people to support Obama. So what difference does another wingnut justice make? Citizens United was already passed. The damage is already done.
What he loses from his base he expects to pick up from the other side. He thinks the crackers are going to vote for him. Hahahaha.
Vote Counts:
Korea
Panama
Colombia
Thanks!
My Rep, Lloyd Doggett, whom I used to be able to count on and whom I called and asked to vote no on all three FTA’s, voted “no” on Korea and Colombia, “yes” on Panama. I wonder which third of him expects me to work for his reelection?
NOT THIS TIME. It’s becoming a refrain for me
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2011/roll771.xml
The Jobs Bill passed! Death squads in columbia will be hiring to take care of any new Labor leaders that rise out of the new hires.
I can hardly wait for (a) the front-pagers at Daily Kos to spin this and (b) the national Democratic Party to dun me for funds to re-elect the sellouts, bunko artists, and weathervanes on Capitol Hill.
Anyone have the Senate trait- er I mean Democrats names who voted for this. Why do I suspect my Senators were yeas?
Thank you.
For myself, I want to see who sat out, and then count them as a yes. They should’t get a free pass if they’re playing the rotating bad guy strategy.
Also I’m paying attention to the republicans because some dems are worse and I’m not going to be told I have no place to go any more.
I can’t wait to ask my GOP Congresscritter why he voted no on Korea but yes on Columbia and Panama. I additionally can’t wait to tell on him to my very, very pro US made product neighbor who votes GOP.
Why doesn’t this piece thank Congressman Jones from the Republican party? He voted no. He certainly deserves more credit than Bass, Berman, Bishop, Blumanour, Butterfield,Boren……aw screw it, there were 47 of the Democrats who have no problem with a trade deal even while unemployment exceeds 9%.
WTF is wrong with these f*cking retards in Congress? We need to #OCCUPYCONGRESS ASAP and take the place back for 99% of us that hate this shit and are sick of it. Congress no longer a legitimate body. It doesn’t represent living breathing people anymore. Many of the Congresscritters have violated their oath to uphold the Constitution. Nowhere in that document does it say anything about Corps. Nowhere does it say Corps are people.
I can accept bending the truth a little in the title, just to grab readers, but no, the entire narrative is the kind of spin that you get a nice lil pat on the head for from the Dem establishment.
Who controls the Senate? Oh, that’s right, I thought it was the one corporate party. I don’t know what came over me. I simply forgot it was controlled by the other corporate party.
Lori Wallach, why are you spinning to us?
Agree completely, hackworth1.
Some Dems are even honest about this and tell their constituents they play these kind of games with their votes.
I guess in LW’s world, you are not supposed to know how sausage gets made, eh?
This is that “snark” I’ve heard so much about, right?
Hate dems and repubs? Consider Roseanne Barr For President, she won’t fuck you over.
It doesn’t really matter to me whether or not FDL takes a stand. I already have sufficient information to inform my decision. What I would recommend for FDL is to provide as much information as possible on ALL candidates running for president. The time has never been riper to make a choice other than dem or repub.
Plenty of time for sycophants and partisan hacks to prepare for this betrayal. It actually saddens me just a lil that someone that runs in the circles brings this kind of weak sauce.
These folks who are asking what Obama could have been thinking haven’t been paying attention or are paid to have blind-spots.
Yawn. Really, “campaign against”? Haven’t we already established that politicians lie?
Isn’t this part of the Democratic play book when the Democratic president wants to pass something anti-worker/right-wing? Just enough of them vote for it to pass, those who have a more left leaning base vote against it so when they run for re-election they can say they didn’t vote for it. No matter what though, what the president wants, if it’s right-leaning, the president gets.
If it looks at all like it may help the 99%, like the recent jobs bills, then there’s just never enough support.
Funny how it plays out the same way all the time.
You may be right about some, but I think is simply “rotating villain” kind of strategy – “maximum diffusion of responsibility”.
Yes, it is that.
With the help of the tea party, more dems got to play representative than would have otherwise.
That seems like an appeal to authority.
Organizations are corrupted all the time.
Even if an organization seems unimpeachable, it can still have weak moments or re-align.
No, it’s an appeal to authenticity. Public Citizen has not changed its line on free trade deals for years, whereas many progressives have ignored the issue while manufacturing jobs have been offshored in this country. I see absolutely no reason to shit on them for being consistent and criticizing both Republicans and Democrats for supporting anti-regulation trade deals.
Of course anything can be corrupted, that’s not a revelatory insight. How does Ms. Wallach’s statement demonstrate any sort of corruption? If you’re looking for a villain, how about UAW screwing the rest of organized labor by supporting the Korea FTA?
Remember that for every 100k manufacturing jobs lost there will be 6 hedge fund manager jobs created. In terms of national income it is a wash.
Not looking for a villain as much as I am looking for authenticity. And I also realize that one piece is not representative of the organization as whole. I’ve had contact with them and nearly always respect their work. On a couple of occasions I have challenged their messaging directly by actually contacting the organization by phone.
The corruption demonstrated in the piece is multiple examples of spin. The piece is actually quite partisan until the last paragraph.
I didn’t even know what games d and r elected politicians played until I got to know them personally. I certainly didn’t know there were phrases like rotating villain for the shenanigans. That Public Citizen isn’t honest about what games these people play is a disservice.
From Public Citizen
Does leading the charge mean you can confuse voters with misleading narratives? I mean, PC knew this was coming, that the bills would pass and yet puts out this kind of drivel? Yes, there are some parts that are not.
This piece seems almost entirely very partisan. Sorry for noticing, arob. I stick to my original comments.
What do they produce for trade in Panama?
Could have something to do with their financial services?
There certainly has been some drinking – with the unions folks and the exhausted team at Public Citizen – all of whom have been working to kill these devastating NAFTA-style trade agreements since Bush signed them in 2007 and the push to pass them first started.
There were no cocktail weenies or media glitterati and the discussion was about Democratic primaries, which GOP freshmen could be taken out over these votes, what the hell else we could have done to force CNN, NYTs, USA Today, Post et al to cover these incredibly damaging agreements – and about next steps.
And it does matter that that 2/3s of the House Dems voted against the Korea FTA, the biggest trade pact threat to US jobs in a decade – for two reasons.
Thousands of activists across this county have been busting their asses these past four years to stop these agreements against nightmarish odds and tsunamis of corporate money. When Obama betrayed the hard-won commitments to replace the poisonous NAFTA trade model extracted by a year of bird-dogging the primaries by folks across the country, people worked even harder to build votes against the deals in Congress – the last strategy available to avoid the damage these pacts will cause. Their efforts and success in their congressional districts holding their Representative accountable to vote “no” for them deserves to be noted and celebrated. Getting congressional representatives to vote FOR their district and against a major initiative of their party’s president is hard. We may not like it, but that is the reality.
Second, many folks across the country have worked district by district since before NAFTA in 1993 to try to build a majority in Congress whose prospective no votes could force whomever is in the White House to negotiate “trade” deals for us rather than for offshoring multinationals, banksters, Big Pharma and agribusiness – and failing that to build a majority of no votes in the House (where trade fights happen) to stop a GOP OR Dem president’s destructive trade agreements – agts that mainly are not even about trade any more, but are expansive Trojan horse mechanisms to implement a whole array of new corporate rights and protections and gut the non-trade public interest policies us 99 percenters rely on.
There is NO good news on a night like tonight.
But all progress towards that ultimate goal needs to be recognized because we will never get there unless we stick to it, grow the effort and do better. And, if all of this work had not been done by people throughtout this country for all of these years, all three of these disgusting deals would have passed in 2007 and their damage would have been slamming us since. And, the damage of the planned expansion of the WTO that was stopped in Seattle in 1999 and that worldwide activist camapigning has helped derail since would be slamming us. And the hemispherewide Free Trade Area of the Americas expansion of NAFTA from the Artic to the Antartic would not have been derailed, etc etc.
Sorry for the delay in joining the conversation. Senate votes on the agreements started shortly after the House damned us.
Also, for a more comprehensive view of the lay of the land for how a majority in Congress could have stopped these deals once Obama screwed us last week and submitted the deals to Congress, see http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lori-wallach/obama-nafta_b_994431.html The only place to stop a trade agt is in the House, which obviously is majority GOP, so the math is minimize Dem yesses and get to 218 with GOP nos…
Lori, I hear all the positive you are saying and I agree with what you are saying @77 but that is not what you presented us in the original piece.
I disagree that this was progress.
Since you say, Dems blocked these deals under a R president, weren’t we better off ay least with regard to these trade deals with a R president than we are with Obama? And furthermore, isn’t a New Dem worse than a Romney who won’t be able to twist Dem arms so easily?
I could be confused but if that is the case then why would the Dem controlled Senate even be required to vote?
And there’s a problem again with at least the title, I’ll read the rest in a bit.
Obama Flip-Flops Off Trade Cliff
Who doesn’t know that Obama was entirely a liar when he talked about addressing these agreements even during his campaign, before he ever won or was inaugurated? I mean, why call it a flip-flop when the only people who will even appreciate that kind of phrase weren’t paying attention during the 2008 campaign? Doesn’t PC consider its responsibility to raise the bar, you know, educate voters, at least in terms of actually speaking the truth that Obama couldn’t flip or flop on something he never intended? Why do I keep feeling you are spinning the narrative? Why? I’m not angry, I just sincerely want to know.
Ah, ok, am reading the link now. The point of using the phrase flip-flop when it’s not necessarily appropriate just seems confusing.
A great victory for the Trojan horse scum. His owners should be proud.
Next up, passage of the “bipartisan” repatriation corporate tax holiday act.
Senate Dems opposition
US-Korea Free Trade Agreement Implementation Act; Passed: 83-15
US-Panama Trade Agreement Implementation Act; Passed: 77-22
US-Colombia Trade Agreement Implementation Act; Passed: 66-33
Senate roll calls
Korea
Panama
Colombia
“personality-based tribalism”. Huh? For 2 years your team has made the greatest arguments on the web why Obama should NOT be reelected in 2012 and you don’t think it’s curious why a returning reader might question why we all shouldn’t agree with Obama team’s oft stated belief that it doesn’t matter one hoot how he treats Progressives, they have no where else to go? Tribalism indeed.
Not to worry, the $1.7 trillion needs to come back to the U.S. so our companies and banksters can reward the CEOs and other executives with bonuses — early Christmas bonuses if approved in time, for their well-earned hard work. It’s been seven years since the last repatriation, and it’s way overdue. Some of the money left over after the bonuses is expected to create jobs, which should trickle down to us. It has bipartisan support between the Tea Party and Chuck Schumer.
Correction: $1.4 Trillion.
I think direct action against corporations and their patsies is called for. I think it’s about time we start doing an end-around the political process and the law in our efforts to do so.
I checked the list and was surprised to see that both of Hawaii’s senators voted “no.”
I find this surprising because
a) Both are total dupes and will do whatever Obama tells them;
b) Akaka is retiring so will not be up in 2012;
c) Inouye is not up for election, and is [unfortunately] revered here;
d) They could have afforded to make these two vote “yes” and release two other senators for whom a “yes” vote is going to be a problem in 2012.
Just more excellent planning by Senate Dems /s
Shocker- my two grift-er I mean Senators voted yea. We get rid of Webb this year. Bet you money he lands in some DoD lobbyist position. Warner is next up. It’d be nice to get rid of him before he helps give Congress permission to renege on their promises to those of us who entered the workforce in the 80s just so they don’t have to pay the money back that they reappropriated for wars and tax breaks.
I’d like to switch my two retarded Democratic Senators with the gentleladies from Maine who occupy the other side of the aisle. They got this issue right. Too bad this article doesn’t acknowledge that. Makes me wonder if they are going to get slimed by association if next time they’ll stand up for fair trade agreements. Ugh. Save me from issue based groups who subscribe to partisan politics. Why can’t we just go with saying who did the right thing and who did the wrong thing?
There is such a thing as justifiable hate. It is not the same as being a “hater.” When the hatred is specific and directed at injustice, then it is a healthy response–and normal.
Thank you Lori for all the hard work you and your team has done over the years. Those are are attacking you are probably the same folks who are still blaming Ralph Nader for Gore losing in 2000.
Hate is too loaded a word to defend. I prefer despise which doesn’t carry as much baggage.
First off, questioning the clarity or even truth of a message is not attacking a person. Can we be mature enough to appreciate that distinction.
Second, I wish I had voted for Nader. That you repeated that about Gore makes me question whether you know what kind of silliness you are tossing out there just mentioning that lie. But then, of course I am going to guess that you think I am attacking you now.
How is it that one shouldn’t expect crystal clear narrative from someone who represents this organization on these very issues? Please tell me that. I sincerely want to know.
Is this really the kind of narrative that is helpful? powerful? or is it something rather impotent and quite ridiculous?
Think about it next time you consider who to give your money to. If this issue can’t be presented truthfully to us, yes, you and me, then how do you think they soft peddle their pressure to the actual representatives?
So yeah, I object to people who equate questioning a message as attacking a person. Seeing that accusation here is completely appalling.
reposting Jane’s response (#40) as a reminder.
“If you want to go cheer for or against a presidential candidate, there are probably more comfortable places for you than FDL. We hated the primaries and didn’t take a position for any candidate because we didn’t feel comfortable being tribalistic partisans. We were trying to use the election as a time to force everyone into better positions, and you lose that opportunity if you start taking sides. I think we’re one of the few places that can look back at what we wrote in 2008 without extreme embarrassment because of it.
We have fought hard to stake our identity to being an issue-based blog (regardless of who is in power), rather than a personality-based or party-based blog. The kind of personality-based tribalism you’re looking for has not worked well for us, and I don’t see that changing.”
Rep. Lloyd Doggett gave one of the most impassioned speeches yesterday about the need for a new trade policy that does not continue the race to the bottom for workers and the environment. He is the only member of the Trade Subcommittee to consistently challenge the Administration to pursue that policy and live up to its largely abandoned campaign promises on reforming our trade policy. While questioning the Panama deal as deficient and offering no model for future trade agreements, he explained in a separate speech that because of Panama’s eagerness for that Agreement, he had been able to achieve another important objective—taking a major step to end Panama’s status as a major international tax haven. I also question the Panama agreement myself, but he made a good case that reflected our shared values. Green Warrior should be devoting every third and then some to overcoming Rick Perry’s effort to remove the best champion that Texas working families have in Congress