A great post, BT.

I just now posted someting related (but not as good) at MyFDL.

Cheney’s self-serving revisionism is astounding!

“We developed the technique and the technology for it,” said Cheney of the drone strike that killed Awlaki.

ok – the Obama administration is obviously engaging in many of the same activities too, but that still doesn’t legalize it make it legal – Dick.

Taking the gloves off G)
Killing USA citizens is constitutional under which Government code?

The picture of Cheney has no snarl so un-characterist. A classic crony capitalist. Population reduction policy by drones can get very expensive. There are still over 7 billion people more than half of which he considers our enemies. So I guess plan be is to starve them and if the are USA citizens TB.

Per HuffPo, unnamed subordinates of the president (members of his DOJ) wrote a secret memo authorizing him to kill al Awlaki. See http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/30/secret-us-memo-sanctioned_n_989865.html

Obama does owe that apology. We may not have tortured for the info, but the extra-judicial execution is a very long walk away from our ideals

Yep, bin Laden lost the battle (his life) but won the war (terror won). Government and the Supremes blithely restrict/reduce and abjure our rights as quaint, while the populace cheers the death of a nut job, much as the far right cheered Rick Perry for maintaining once you’re on death row, justice was properly applied. As Juan Cole stated Anwar al-Awlaki could have been tried in absentia (still iffy imo) then executed. But who in the USofA wants uniform application justice.

800 years ago the Magna Carta restricted the King from capriciously punishing citizens, i.e., required due process in the courts. Barack Obama has turned the human-rights calendar back eight centuries.

Why bother to post this? This is all theatre. cheney is a monster who has been protected by obama. obama is as much a monster as cheney and bush.

Naw, Cheney is using the classic ‘if a single detail is the same, it’s all the same’ sthick (e.g. Jonah Goldberg’s magnum dopus “Liberal Fascism”).

Drones were a part of invading random countries, a drone was used in this operation. To the conservative mind, it’s a Q.E.D – it’s the same thing!

But the use of a given piece of technology doesn’t equate to killing a couple of hundred thousand brown bystanders. That’s not even a good try, Dick.

Obama may owes some folks apologies, but Richard Bruce Cheney sure ain’t one of them.

Obama and Cheney: two peas in a civil liberties pod.

Typical incoherent right wing drivel. Word salad. Wingers eat it up.
Here’s FL Congresswoman Sandy Adams (gotta be a Patriot when your name is Adams):

The changes to Medicare included in the House budget do not affect anyone over the age of 55 and will not end Medicare. For those 54 and below, starting in 2022, seniors who are eligible for Medicare would receive “premium support.” Those individuals who need more assistance based on their health or income would receive more support. Essentially, seniors would be able to purchase the private health insurance of their choice.

(Exact quote. All Punctuation by Adams)

They flat out lie like hell right on their re-election brochures. Is nobody supposed to notice?

The Clinton administration had a plan to roll up al-Queda. The Cheney/Bush administration not only blew it off (they had “other priorities,” like Iraq) but blamed Clinton for 9/11.

Come January 2013, he can go back to Chicago and teach “Constitutional Law 2.0: Why 9/11 Changed Everything.”

Cheney really puts the Dick in Dick Cheney, don’t he? Putz.

Dick would look so much better in Orange

OhioGringo explains how the other stuff Bush&Co started has kept us from ‘winning’ their own stated goals.
Start ‘em up, keep ‘em from ending, second verse, same as the first

When I think of Cheney, I think of one word: EVIL. He seems to enjoy it too.

But I’m not so sure the evil you see is as dangerous as those who appease and become complicit with evil.

I fail to see how the Obama administration differs much from the Bush admministration when it comes to the rule of law.

I have a very difficult time believing that Obama ever taught constitutional law. In fact, I have a hard time believing that he ever read the Constitution. He certainly did not read it with even a seventh-grader level of comprehension. What part of “due process” and “separation of powers” does this narcissistic jack-ass not understand?

Deeds speak louder than words. The big apology came in the form of the “look forward not back” thing.

Aggressive, ongoing civil and criminal immunity and the shroud of secrecy provided by Obama is the most sincere apology imaginable for any of the nasty things said before January 20, 2009.

The rest (what Candidate Obama said, and whatever victory-lap Cheney says now) is just cheap theatrics to keep the partisan rubes in their appropriate cheering sections.

He knows the letter of the law, but eagerly signed on to what amounts to a “national security exception” to the Bill of Rights, along with the concept of limitless presidential power in matters of national security.

Come to think of it, didn’t the old Soviet Constitution promise all kinds of rights but contain a provision that made them subordinate to state security?

Here is what I like:

Progressives get all pissed at Bush/Cheney, and then, when Obama continues the same policies, they get pissed at Obama for continuing the same policies.

Then, when some success happens, all of the sudden, Obama is not continuing the same policies and actions–he is doing some new thing that he thought up.

Come to think of it, didn’t the old Soviet Constitution promise all kinds of rights but contain a provision that made them subordinate to state security?

Exactly. And Trotsky was assassinated on Stalin’s orders, just as al Awlaki was assassinated on Obama’s. Different technology. Different motivation. Same process. And the same charge: “He’s an enemy of and danger to The State Homeland.”

Stripes. Dayglow green and black horizontal stripes.

I think Mr Alleged Constitutional Lawyer is close enough in kind to the previous maladministration that he can stand in the dock right next to them.

Who and where did any progressive assert “Obama is not continuing the same policies” except to state that “Obama’s policies are worse.”

Please provide links. Or shut up.

when some success happens, blah, blah, blah

Huh? That comment is really flawed analysis. Maybe you are channeling Shooter?

Dick’s the kind of guy you’d like to sit down and have a glass of Metamucil with.

I was thinking wine laced with ioccaine powder…

As someone once said of flattery, Obama’s shameless imitation of Dick and Dubya’s lawlessness constitutes the sincerest form of apology to them for campaign criticisms he may have offered in the past implying that he, if elected, would do anything but extend and deepen the reach of their/his crimes.

Pure crap. We liberals who justifiably condemned Dick and Dubya for their lawlessness condemn President Obama equally for the same ones — and even more for his own personal additions to the list of crimes. Personally, I will not vote for a corporate-imperial Republican monarch, no matter which party nominates him or her to head their ticket.

you are 100% right effin on.

it’s always ok when justified by your own ideology.

“Cheney sounds a lot like Dubya, who basically took credit for killing bin Laden.”

As Dick’s reward, I’ve taken up a collection for a one way ticket to Europe..

I’ve long said the Obama Admin is Bush III on steroids. One can quibble about whether it *appears as if* W is “more responsible” for murdering lots of people or whether it *appears as if* Barry Zero is a more bloodthirsty cold-blooded murderer. Really: who gives a sh*t? I certainly do not.

Our nation is being run behind the scenes by creeps & murderers such as Dick Cheny & Henry Kissinger. It matters little who the “front man” is and what purported political affliation he allegedly has.

I saw nasty sh*t Cheney while exercising at the gym and in reading merely 3 sentences of the subtitles of him talking was all I needed to know. Frankly I didn’t need to even read that much of his “talk.” Basically I smelt the brimstone all the way out on the left coast, and I already knew that Big Dick and Henry the K were among those pulling the marionette strings to MURDER US citizen Al-Awlaki.

Cheney’s appearance and whatever other blather that eminated from his pustulencial pie-hole are yet another act in the Kabuki Show. Cheney slithered forward to parcel-tongue crap to rile up the base to feel “mad” that Obama somehow didn’t do the “job” correctly, whilst also getting most citizens to go along with the cold-blooded MURDER of a US citizen.

Heckuva job, Cheney.

No love lost on my part with Obama. Obama is totally and morally reprehensible. I don’t really give a sh*t if anyone wishes to give the kudos to the Bush Crime Syndicate or to Barry Zero for the immoral and illegal act. What does it matter? It’s all the same thing and all run by the same Thug-Life sh*ts like Cheney & Kissinger.

Well said!

Would someone please cut the cord to Cheneys powerpak. And while your at it beechslip King Chaos for allowing Cheney to still br free.

Wow, just think a little harder, BT, and Cheney’s point may become clear to you.

He is claiming that presidentially-ordered assassinations of American citizens without charge or trial is every bit as “extreme” a measure as torture. So Obama is in a pretty poor position to be criticizing Bush and Cheney.

For once in his life, Cheney is perfectly right.