Sure it has taken well over a century so far, so what’s another decade and a half?
Barcelona’s emblematic Sagrada Família church finally has a completion date — 2026 or 2028, more than 140 years after it was started.
When they started Sagrada Familia there were no cars, the United States was led by President Chester “Mutton Chops” Arthur, and the war Europe was recovering from was the Franco-Prussian one, leaving France a few “Republics” short of the current model.
So how many people think this will be done before we withdraw from Afghanistan and/or Iraq?
At least Barcelona will end up with something of value for a lot less money and blood.



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I say, why finish? Keep building…I saw it as a 10-year old in the mid-sixties, and thought it was just weird…it so displaces space that I felt kind of seasick, except I never have problems with motion sickness…so, it’s successfully weird as hell, so a termination date seems antithetical…
In 15 or 17 years the social safety will have been all but a memory, we still won’t have healthcare, better infrastructure, or a cleaner planet. Most jobs will have been exported to low wage countries and no one here will have any worker’s rights left. And, yes, we will still be killing people. The only way the MIC will end is with the end of civilization.
If we ever run short of money, bullets or volunteers, we’ve always got the nukes.
The American global financial and military Empire is insolvent and reeks of corruption. It is collapsing as we speak. When the legions cannot be paid they will be repatriated or abandoned in place. The Americans (and NATO) will be out of Afghanistan well before the completion of Sagrada Familia.
Why not another thirty years since we have been there since Jimmy Carter and Zbig Brezinski thought it was a good idea to finance and arm the mujahdeen. In 30 years President Mary Margaret Santorum will state that the treasure her father the late President Rick Santorum committed will not have been sacrificed in vain and that America will not lose Afghanistan on her watch.
It ain’t collapsing fast enough for me.
Beautiful place, and such a pleasure that I could get in and go through it, something no one should miss. The wonderful realism and craggy natural life adornment are a quirky interpretation of a church/cathedral, well worth the visit.
“If we ever run short of money…..”
We always have money for war even if we have to borrow it.
One fine night there won’t be any more spoons in the silver drawer, and the finance company won’t even answer the phone. We will be dependent on the kindness of strangers.
Crane Station has great advice on how to survive when you got nothin’, she’s been dumpster diving to live for awhile now. And has lots of competition doing it.
Morning all,
Is it Good ,we’ll see.
I heard we’re quitting the twelfth of never and that’s a long,long,long, long time.
Really, when does a junkie hit bottom ? When they’re broke .
Good morning, pups. It’s Brooks and Krugman today. Bobo has decided to natter on about “The Amateur Ideal.” He gurgles that people seem to do best when they have to wrestle between commercialism and values. So, no, let’s not pay college athletes. Prof. Krugman, in “The Social Contract,” says with shrieks of “class warfare” going back and forth in Washington, a closer look at the data shows just what class warfare looks like.
Here they are.
The coffee and tea are ready, and I’ve got waffles with warm maple syrup this morning. I’ve rarely been quite so glad to see the end of a work week. Suffice it to say that our practice’s transition to an electronic medical record has not been all rainbows and unicorns… Have a great day.
thanks, Marion
from the link; Krugman – ‘Well, that amounts to a demand that a small number of very lucky people be exempted from the social contract that applies to everyone else. And that, in case you’re wondering, is what real class warfare looks like.’
Well, first you gotta define “withdrawal”. Do contractors count? How about CIA? JSOF? Trainers? The “special” staff at the embassy in Baghdad?
If we’re only counting combat troops as defined by Obama, we’ll be done first.
Boxturtle (Heck, with Obama’s definition, we might be done now)
Under those circumstances, the finance company will be calling US.
Boxturtle (“Hello, this is Austerity financial services. When may we expect payment?”)
No offense, but I’ve always thought Sagradia Familia looked like a conglomeration of termite mounds or anthills.
And then there’s the checkered list of purposes these structures were built for. A bit of exploitation lurks in all of them however romanticized they remain.
. . . the drone bases from which drones are launched do they count? If so we are there until the twelfth of never.
Nothing about drones counts. That much I’m SURE of.
Boxturtle (I think if Iraq doesn’t give us what we want, we’ll quietly take it)
Uncle Sam Ankstrom’s still on his stilts, but he’s gettin’ mighty wobbly.
“We always have money for war even if we have to
borrowsteal it.”There, fixed.
Looks like Mullins & Panetta are teaming up to increase war in Pakistan. Clips from testimony on democracynow.
Good morning.
1st segment on democracynow = Palestinian statehood debate.
O’s speech at UN wrt Israel was a classic cave-in to alpha male, second only to Kucinich’s cave-in to O over HCR.
Obama has mastered the fine art of the cave-in.
It is fall, time for a new product roll out.
Yeah that was a great line as is Warren’s
” “There is nobody in this country who got rich on his own. Nobody,” she declared, pointing out that the rich can only get rich thanks to the “social contract” that provides a decent, functioning society in which they can prosper. ”
So much for the “self-made man”
He will be remembered as The Great Spelunker. He always caves.