Well said.

Not only should the wealthy pay at least the same total tax rate as the middle class, they should be paying more. Talk about a bunch of whiny freeloaders.

Obama only gave away half the farm before he even started negotiating. Some would say the Left should be encouraged by this.

No need for angst on either left or right. O hasn’t the slightest intention of fighting for this. He hasn’t stood up for anything in nearly 3 years, he won’t start now.

The same thing happened to FDR, and he did mobilize the people to get on the backs of the congress. That worked out quite well.

He hasn’t stood up for anything in nearly 3 years, he won’t start now.

He is standing up for re-election.

We touched on this a little at work yesterday and though most of those people aren’t Obama fans and some are even teabag Republicans, they are all for the rich paying more in taxes. Still, it can’t be denied that this is Obama’s plan to get re-elected, not to address the deficit or jobs.

The teabaggage has been losing a lot of credibility as its head figures get more press. I love that now everyone makes a pilgrimage to worship the Trump. Too comedic.

Good morning, pups. We have Brooks, Nocera and Bruni since Mr. Cohen is off today. Bobo has extruded a thing called “Obama Rejects Obamism” in which he whines that the president cannot transcend himself. It’s back to politics as usual. He haz a sad because President Obama isn’t being a good little Republican. Mr. Nocera, in “No Extra Credit,” says the real problem isn’t taxes or the deficit. It’s the lack of lending. Mr. Bruni, in “Deer Hunts and Dirt Bikes,” says in presidential politics, there’s too much fuss over folksy.

Here they are.

The coffee and tea are ready, and I’ve got lemon poppy seed muffins this morning. Bobo has given me dyspepsia so I’m going to go and get another cup of tea. And try and figure out what I’m going to bring for lunch today. Have a great day.

Yup, it’s the only explanation for his sudden swerve to the left. He just signed on to keep the Bush tax cuts in December. The White House appears to be pretty fancy digs, he doesn’t want to leave. To damn little, too damn late for me.

If Obama had really wanted to raise taxes on the rich and close corporate tax loopholes, he would have done it two years ago. The public overwhelmingly supported these actions. Still do. But none of this will happen. This is pure campaign theatre.

Obama gave the Bush Tax Cuts away for free. Obama never crafted an “Obama Tax Cut Plan”. Obama rejected Shumer’s popular revision of Bush Tax Cuts that would tax millionaires.

Obama let the Rethugs use the Debt Ceiling as hostage – creating a crisis.
Then, Obama let S&P Piss on his shoe.

Obama praised Reagan and Trickle Down. Obama said that the Goverment Cannot Create Jobs. Jobs must be created in the Private Sector.

Obama friend is Jamie Dimon. Obama made GE’s Jeff Immelt Top Job Czar.

There will be no tax increases on the rich.

The R’s won’t pass it and Obama never really wanted to tax the rich anyway.

Oh I wouldn’t believe a bloody word the Big Zero has to say. He is a lying, bought and paid for, swine.

He will say what it takes to get re-appointed to CEO but he will not do a damn thing he says.

I will not vote for his ilk, I will write in “none of the above” and it will not make one iota of difference as no matter who is appointed as CEO of The Party the division of them that has has and them that haven’t a bloody hope will remain.

To damn little, too damn late for me.

Too damn nothing imo. Obama knows that a tax increase on the rich doesn’t stand a snowball’s chance in a brick kiln of passing but that hasn’t stopped David Schuster, Michael Moore, Rachel Maddow and many other people from leaping en masse back onto Obama’s bandwagon. Despite the fact that when he had a super majority in the Senate and close to one in the House, all we got was the Bob Dole, Heritage Foundation Health (insurance company) Care Plan.

Agreed. He’s only worried about his re-election. I think the loss in NY finally woke him up.

Problem is that it may be too late. And nobody is going to believe him if he says “I’m working on it. Vote for me and I’ll finish it”.

Boxturtle (The idea of Obama fighting for anything besides Bankers is kinda silly, anyway)

Obama is NOT FDR. More like Harding.

Boxturtle (Or Hoover)

Yup, it’s the only explanation for his sudden swerve to the left.

His APPARENT sudden swerve to the left. Talk is cheap.

Boxturtle (I was fooled last election. Not again)

Funny thing about history, it makes folks into whatever you please; pls note the right is now working on the ‘New Deal made the depression worse’ mantra.

I even volunteered to work on his damn campaign. I’m nearly as pissed off at myself as I am pissed off at him. Even if he brought every soldier home tomorrow and stopped pissing all those trillions down a rathole, it’s too late.

Pffft! More like a cross between Neville Chamberlain and Philipe Petain.

Good morning, Ruth. The Right has been working on “The New Deal made the depression worse” mantra since 1948.

Right, the health insurance debacle ended any “hope” I had.

I see the loony left doesn’t like Obama,maybe you schmucks will vote for Raph Nader like the 96,000 in Florida who gave us 8 years of Bush.I hope you will be happy when Pres.Perry/Romney appoints the successor to Ruth Bader Ginsburg who has been fighting pancreatic cancer,you can then kiss Roe v.Wade goodbye.
Think about it folks.

Good morning all,

Was this ryan guy eddie Munster before he kinda grew up ?

“I even volunteered to work on his damn campaign. I’m nearly as pissed off at myself as I am pissed off at him. Even if he brought every soldier home tomorrow and stopped pissing all those trillions down a rathole, it’s too late.”

No matter what you may think, oldhippiejan is NOT a BoxTurtle sockpuppet. Despite the fact that we’re thinking the same thing at the same time.

Boxturtle (I’m assuming true genius thinks alike)

I think they started it when he proposed the New Deal, really.

Behold the Democrats’ Dirty Fucking Secret
.
They get richer faster with Republicans running the show.
.
(Obama included among the Repubs.
Also Dem Ladies with quiet filthy rich businessman husbands…they’re R’s too.)

That’s only a secret in the sens that climate change is a secret. It’s only secret to those who refuse to believe reality.

In reality only 1 in 20 households are millionaires

but you can raise the odds considerably by being a member of Congress.

Happy DADT Day, everybody. Especially to Col. Lindsey Graham.

If the choice is between executioner obama or perry FU to both the creeps and the Magnificent Mindless Merican Murder Machine they want to run.

I refuse my consent of my vote for either psychopath .

“I’m optimistic, you have to hope blah blah blah,” I hear the same patter from my liberal friends all the time…the demographic of people choosing an unreal narrative is reaching a critical, insane mass, methinks.

Shove your Nader lies up your republican voting machine ass.

I see the loony left doesn’t like Obama

You’re confused. The loony left DOES like Obama. The thinking left, not so much.

maybe you schmucks will vote for Raph Nader

If only we could.

who gave us 8 years of Bush

It’s actually 12 years, assuming Obama doesn’t get re-elected. If he does, it’ll be 16.

hope you will be happy when Pres.Perry/Romney appoints the successor to Ruth Bader Ginsburg

I probably won’t be any more unhappy with that selection than I have been with Kagin.

kiss Roe v.Wade goodbye.

LADIIIIEEEESS AND GENTLEMEN….PREEEESENTING the OBAMA 2012 RE_ELECTION CAMPAIGN.

Boxturtle (Thanks to litvak36 for distilling it down to one short post)

Except Nancy clean the table, Right ?/s

I keep saying it and obama FINALLY got on board, we MUST point out the wealthy pay LESS then the middle class

we DON’T WANT TO PAY THE WEALTHY’S BILLS

and THAT’S the way it needs to be framed EVERY time

not;

“we want to raise taxes on the wealty”

BUT;

“we don’t want the wealthy forcing the working class to pay it’s bills”

THAT’S the way to do it democrats, GET IT?

BOXTURTLE that is ONE brilliant response to an obama bot…someone who HATED bush but finds the SAME policies brought forth by obama to be fine.

I can NEVER understand how ANY democrat could support another four years of bush’s term, yet here they are promoting it

pretty funny, the republicans ask you to come here and support this trojan wolf in sheeps clothing or are you doing it on your own?

but I don’t think they really get “richer” I think they just create a greater devide.

I think there is no way “the wealthy” would be as rich if the coporatists were always in power, they needed a middle class to create the wealtht that they now enjoy…without progressive policies they would have less wealth… what they would have is a greater devide but less wealth.

they don’t like the fact that others are comfortable and they would rather see the masses far beneath them even at the price of having less weatlhy for themselves

Speaking of Ayn Rand…She spent her elder years dependent upon Social Security and Medicare. Odd how the Randians ignore their goddess’ hypocrisy (and their own).

A poorly educated and often superstitious populace susceptible to advertising, propaganda and indoctrination find it far easier to believe the myth than accept the reality.

Lots of the dailykos crowd, including kos himself, were on the HOPE HOPE HOPE bandwagon yesterday.

oh well, act like a doormat & people will wipe their shit covered shoes off on you. yawn. wish in 1 hand, shit in the other, and see which one fills up first. yawn.

I suppose if I had a Graduate Degree in studying really complicated and really advanced things, I’d be able to understand a bunch of big words, big sentences and big paragraphs explaining in advanced complicated speak how 0bummer isn’t just a big fucking liar and a big sell out of us bottom feeders.

Money talks and shit walks.

rmm.

it would seem even my well educated, middle class collegues buy into the fake news propaganda

when they own the message board they own the message

I blame clinton for not re-instating the fairness doctrine, I blame obama for the same and all “progressive” speakers who claimed the fairness doctrine could not be brought back

bull crap

it MUST be brought back or this country is doomed

they know their ideology is nothing more then propaganda, they know there is NO such thing as ANY market without government regulations

they simply want the regulations that make it difficult for them to lose money, and they hate the regulations that have them paying their own bills

these supposed “libertarians” LOVE regulations, just not the ones that force responsible decisions

I don’t think he’s a “sell out” seabos, I think he’s a plant, I think he’s been a corporatist all his political career and simply called himself a democrat for expedience

it’s far easier getting corporate agenda passed when you are elected as a democrat

I have said all along, a republican elected as a democrat will do FAR more damage then a republican elected as a republican

and behold;

obama…worse then bush…I never thought a president could possibly be but there he is all dressed in a blue suit instead of a red one

I don’t know how educated or superstitious you are, but you, and all of us, will get what the uneducated and superstitious get. Come November 2012 what do you do? vote Obama? Rick Perry (I think he’s going to be their man)or his ilk? Nader? Green? or do you decide to sit it out? Nasty choices, but unless we manage something else, those are the jokes.

The problem is hierarchy including the hierarchy that is FDL. If we can’t fix ourselves, we can’t fix anything.

I don’t know about attributing this “I’m gonna be a millionaire!” myth to Ayn Rand. The whole gospel of wealth preached by several generations of preachers and success gurus has a lot more to do with that. Like Napoleon Hill and his “Think and Grow Rich” written in 1932. Still a best seller. There’s “Success” magazine, the Zig Ziglar “Get Motivated” rallies: look who headlines these. It’s not all bad either. But underneath it all is a deluded myth that anyone can be a millionaire with enough hard work and faith.

Lets not forget that should an agreement not be reached the SuperCongress desires kick in so the safety net will definitely be cut.

And who do you support ???

I will vote for whoever runs against the big zero, as I have always pointed out, a republican elected as a republican will do far less damage then one elected as democrat

Like it says in brokerage ads–Past performance is no guarantee of future results. Rick Perry, IMHO, can do lots of damage. I’d prefer an effort to get a viable alternative going, but that doesn’t seem to be in the cards.

Everyone is running around looking for a Leader and crying that there are no Leaders.

The Republican Oligarchs have the elections rigged, from every angle.

We must cut the umbilical and think and act for ourselves as if we are Individuals. En Masse… Work outside the corrupt system. And against it.

Boycott and sabotage voting. Boycott the Corporations and Sabotage them at every turn. Organize Squatters Communities in cities and suburbs. Those Republicans want Anarchy..i.e. No Government. Lets give them a taste of the real thing. And stand up for our own government (small g). Tax revolt- refuse to pay taxes at all until the Oligarchs and Corporations pay more than their share. Only buy from small, local producers. Not agribusiness outlets.

Organize free clinics and hospitals. Force Pharma to supply medicines at cost. Support labor unions and boycott all non union firms.
Call for the wars to end and bring the troops home to fight for us here.
Demand that war funds go to rebuild infrastructure. ..in the U.S. And rebuild in Iraq and Afghanistan.

oh, and keep our sense of humor !!!

Obama has failed to emulate his idol Reagan who actually raised taxes on the wealthy. By the way, Paul Ryan is just the gentile version of Eric Cantor.

There is a glaring problem with your post. You identify the Oligarchs as Republicans, which is false as well as divisive because oligarchs are only interested in wealth and power to control the masses. They are neither Republican nor Democratic, that’s just another tool they utilize to keep the bottom 98% distracted and opposing each other while they rob us blind. Partisanship is a disease that should be eliminated.

I thought that the meme that Nader cost Gore the 2000 election had finally been put to rest by the facts. Your lack of knowledge has rendered your posts laughable.

Interesting that the “prosperity preachers” want their devotees to have faith that they will amass riches by donating money to the preachers.

I tend to agree with you in.re. the real republican versus the dino, but does it make any difference? We are faced with two “viable” choices (more choices of mustard at the grocery store) and people say they will vote for the “lesser of two evils”. That’s akin to having to choose between death by starvation or death by drowning, either way you wind up dead, and the same oligarchy will continue to call the shots. The system is broken beyond repair.