Today’s bobbleheads include the architects of almost everything that’s wrong with American foreign and domestic policy. Mass arrests should follow, or failing that, we should see a large spike in prices for tomatoes.
CBS will continue to shame and soil its network by featuring Dick Cheney, the man who lied us into a war that killed or maimed hundreds of thousands and displaced millions, then covered up this crime by making war criminals, torturers, kidnappers and inhumane jailers of others. Dick Cheney is a serial liar and the man who outed a CIA agent and let his lapdog take the hit.
CBS precedes that shameful appearance with President Clinton, the man who made it okay to disrespect poor people and whose economic advisers set the foundation for the financial collapse and looting of America. After all of Bill Clinton’s economic ideas led to predictable catastrophe during the Bush Administration, many of the same Clinton advisers returned in the Obama Administration to clean/cover up the mess and keep the perpetrators in power.
Other shows will feature various lapdog cheerleaders — Lindsey Graham, Tony Blair, Dick Durbin, Paul Ryan, Douglas Holtz-Eakins — for all of these foreign and economic disasters. But no one in the current Administration will be asked to defend their policy failures or their recent attempts to turn it around.
Note the general absence of women (except for Jen Granholm and the safe deficit scold, Alice Rivlin), genuine progressives, anyone who got the economic policies right, anyone who can call out the serial liars and war criminals, anyone who can advocate and defend doing the right thing now on any front. If you were only watching these pathetic shows, you’d think there is no economic crisis, no financial crisis, no jobs crisis, no climate crisis, no crisis in getting emergency relief to the millions suffering from all these catastrophes — in short, a complete breakdown in responsible, accountable, humane government. We’re watching a total failure of America’s elite media to cover and explain what matters.
Instead, it’s Sunday with the criminal class on television, another version of CSI but without any genuine I, but if you wait long enough, you can watch a sport in which grown men act out their violent fantasies while millions cheer.
ABC and CNN notice that the Palestinian authorities are finally holding Israel and the West accountable for their decades-long refusal to recognize the legitimate national interests of the Palestinian people. The US and Tony Blair are frantically trying to avoid being embarrassed by the Palestinians, who are demanding the West actually implement the policies they’ve hypocritically claimed to support.
Update: Just watched Lindsey Graham lie and dodge every question. He misrepresents the tax on millionaires (“class warfare!”) and repeated the GOP misrepresentation about who pays taxes in America — it’s those poor rich people, while those undeserving poor pay nothing! — ignoring payroll taxes. Crowley apparently doesn’t know about this con and doesn’t challenge.




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Pretty much sums up all the reasons NOT to watch TEEVEE, unless one WANTS to rot one’s brain
“Good night Chet”……”Good night, David”
Israel’s ambassador to the US explains to Candy Crowley that if the Palestians insist on some sort of national recognition, it will jeopardize all they’ve accomplished from the negotiations that aren’t happening because the Israeli government doesn’t want them to succeed. No wonder this is embarrassing the US, UK, etc. No one can defend this gibberish.
Well said Scarecrow. The criminal class working with the BS media to sell greater BS
Ha ha yes I get it now. We must vote this down if we are to protect the talks and have any hope of palestine being recognized as a sovereign state
I agree with Kassandra, TV is a “vast wasteland” and only watch the talking heads when Paul Krugman is on. What’s truly frightening is that this is the news most people get.
See here especially regarding CBS.
And thanks, Scarecrow, you have my bile up as well.
Rivlin and Holtz-Eakins on CNN/Crowley — Rivlin says Cong should pass most of the Obama “jobs” plan, even though it won’t do much. But she can’t help saying it needs to be done with reducing the deficit, talks about “sustainable deficit” path, whatever that is.
Dougies wants entitlement reform and tax reform, but this is not the time for a stimulus. There was a time (exactly like today) but it’s not now. Crowley has no clue he’s totally incoherent.
Dougie repeating the GOP mantra — don’t do anything just for the immediate crisis, do something for the long run — which is the excuse for doing nothing now and something dumb later.
Dougie says the Buffet tax just layers on another AMT, which he says is broken. So what’s the fix, Doug?
Bravo, Scarecrow! Beautiful summary. Thank you for your informative, sucinct work.
karen
scarecrow- my payroll taxes are for MY medicare and SS.
NOT for elites to plunder for cronies from Halliburton to Solyndra.
very different than income taxes…
but what is most amazing is the total and complete ignoring of local, county, and state taxes and fees that are killing me and rest of the middle class — not to mention the $0.60 per gallon gas taxes that costs me dearly every month.
On ABC, Clinton asked about jobs, what to do? “Those of us not in govt should help reenforce what the Admin is trying to do, via payroll tax reductions. We should help free up private money just sitting there, which is he lead in to support his own Global Initiative — so he’s not there to support O but to support his own Initiative.
You could have made your little rant much more efficiently by simply stating that Ron Paul will not be part of the Sunday bullshit fest.
Just sayin’
Clinton, wrt to O’s proposals — says building retrofits would create a million jobs — but O’s proposals drop unemployment by only 1 percent; can’t do better than that unless there’s a concensus on fixing housing. How, Bill — the housing bubble started in your administration which set the foundations for it.
Paul’s absence is a blessing. There is enough flim flammery.
Unlike Social Security, which is fully funded by the payroll tax, Medicare is only partially funded by payroll tax; most is covered by general revenues, and thus income taxes.
As long as I’m already logged in:
Any of you titans of intellectual grandeur ever leave the basement and actually have a peak into reality? I’m only asking cause the real world might actually benefit from the energy of your passions were you to to engage such real world VS simply playing dress up and other such escapist fantasy games.
I’ve been following you individuals for quite a while now. FDL is attractive in that I believe many of you are sincerely decent people who genuinely care about your country and the world in general.
The maps you employ however are garbage. Not your fault. Those in power find it convenient to have useful (useless) idiots at their disposal.
Makes me sad that you guys waste so much time and energy pursuing valid dreams via a map that will lead you to misery.
Such is the nature of deception.
And deception is the nature of those with power.
How nice for you to appear in order to set us all straight and help us see the light…Thank you, All-Knowing./s
Someone here at FDL said that Cutting payroll taxes is another fraudulent scheme to feed Goldman Sachs.
Stimulus is: Giving people a lump sum of money. Then they spend it.
Payroll tax cuts (small amounts of money) get eaten up in COL expenses. Goldman (and other “Investment” houses) easily manipulate “markets” to suck it all up in energy and commodities price gouging.
We’ve seen it with gasoline, rice, coffee, etc.
On ABC This Week’s Panel, George Will has been drafting his opening statement all week and just gave it: “Obama has no influence.” Thanks for that astonishing insight, George.
Whatever scarecrow. Better check your facts. SS is a ponzi by definition. NOT fully funded. Go to the treasury website. General rev has been tapped.
You piss me off but I’m not going to let personalities get in the way. I’ll give you this: It is good that you care and do whatever great or small that you do.
If you have a pair check out the link. The guy is a gem and a bridge if people would allow for it. No guru but he has a verifiable track record of being prescient.
Post partisan and looking for some truth.
Peace.
http://www.oftwominds.com/
“Payroll taxes” are not taxes: they are insurance premiums. They are paid by working Americans for a specific purpose and should not be confused with income and other taxes. Taxes are used for general expenses of the government. Social Security Premiums are paid into the Social Security Trust Fund pending payment to beneficiaries. They operate just as any other insurance plan. They are not entitlements nor are they taxes. Calling them taxes opens them up to be compared with entitlements and other negatively perceived schemes. Social Security is based on annuity tables and should be strengthened because of changing demographics. The reason they are government operated is to keep down the cost and not oblige people to pay into a private plan the way the present dysfunctional medical insurance works. It would be the end of Obama if he allows Social secirity to be tampered with.
It’s dump on Obama day on the ABC panel. Jon Karl thinks O should retain Geithner because he’s failed and firing him would be an admission of failure. Such is the logic of the D.C. elites. Will says the correct summary of O economic policy is to tax Buffet and use the money to pay Solydra.
Cynical demagogues pretending to be wise men.
Cokie Roberts notices that the public has lost confidence in Washington, not noting that she and her colleagues are part of it.
A Ponzi Scheme by definition is a Deliberate Fraud.
Social Security is not, nor has it ever been a deliberate fraud.
Social Security takes care of your mother so you do not have to cohabitate with her with your wife and kids. It will also pay for the nursing home.
This “Ponzi Scheme meme” is willfull Teabagger Ignorance.
I understand how I came across. Oh whaa. I don’t have spare time and I don’t expect you to give a crap about what I have to say. My only point is that if even one of you would open your eyes and get past the Hegelian dialectic games and instead turn the fuck around and see that causing the shadows to dance before your fooled eyes, the world could begin to change.
Probably b/c she is such a snob….soo sad.
There are two ways in which the word “ponzi” is understood — one is superficial and fine, the other is a fraud. Social Security is the former, not the latter.
Social Security uses current worker payroll taxes and accummulated trust fund from current and previous workers to pay for current retirees. But there is nothing fraudlent about that. So take your misrepresentations elsewhere.
Scarecrow, your stomach is obviously much stronger than mine. I can’t watch and haven’t watched the Sunday morning gabfest for decades. I wonder who actually does watch them, other than the villagers. My take on these shows, which are relicts of the ‘public interest’ requirement, originally imposed on networks for their seizure of public bandwidth,is that they are essentially directed to other Villagers. They are totally self-referential. Any connection with the outside world is purely accidental.
Peek
verb ˈpēk
Definition of PEEK
intransitive verb
1
a : to look furtively b : to peer through a crack or hole or from a place of concealment —often used with in or out
2
: to take a brief look : glance
See peek defined for English-language learners »
See peek defined for kids »
Examples of PEEK
A little girl peeked around the corner of the chair at him.
Close your eyes, and no peeking!
She peeked ahead to the next chapter to see what happened next.
He allowed some of his friends to peek at his next painting.
‘Any of you titans of intellectual grandeur ever leave the basement and actually have a (peak)sic into reality?’
Thanks rick, I know you mean well because you hate cancer.
One of your best ever posts, Scarecrow. I don’t know why anyone would willingly let tv “news” bilge/violence-worship/endless lies into their mind. And that’s even without the Exxon “fracking is awesome” commercials. Gah! Pure effin evil!
And btw because I love your writing so much, it hurts my eyes to see
please please PLEASE no apostrophe on its
it’s = it is
Doing the troll scroll shuffle so early in the morning.
Cheney , the devils advocate and enforcer.
Go back to your hole, troll. You’ve made your pay today from the Koch’s. Stick the misinformation they feed you to vomit up your ass.
Seems like a former visitor who knew everything, said obnoxious things, and signed off with “Peace”…..Just to be obnoxious, I guess.
Okay. SS was not a ‘deliberate fraud’. I’ll give you that. It was well intentioned AND I believe ought to be retained as a strictly social insurance system. That system must include means testing and no income restrictions for mandatory contributions that would not likely need to exceed 3% of annual revenue. The system requires reform. It is a lie to insist that SS is fine as is. It would also be ridiculous to advocate for some purely private ‘maybe’ system. My larger point is that the left needs (IMHO) to grow up and rather than demagogue the issue acknowledge that change is required.
thanks for spotting that. My spelling is fine; my typing sucks.
You know how people project their own inadequacies? Perhaps spell/grammer check doesn’t work in the basement.
They are satire. They are theatre. Circular logic – falacious arguments.
No one dares to say that the Emperor is naked. If they do, they will lose their $1 million paycheck. Cokie loves her money and lifestyle. She and her contemporaries have been craven assholes their entire lives. Paid to lie, deflect, obfuscate, confuse. Paid to Shuck And Jive. Paid to ignore the obvious.
The 1%ers are just continuing to signal their intractable positions including Obama who refuses to do what’s right in front of him such as let the Bush tax cuts for the rich expire and veto the Tar Sands pipeline.
Check out how the American tax payer dollar$ are getting burned (German language video journal piece, “Roboter-Krieg: Der Soldat der ZukunftDer Spiegel,” Der Spiegel, Sept. 11, 2011):
Now take a look at this for a zoom-in on some of the details: “10 Incredible Weapons That Only America Has” (BusinessInsider.Com, by Robert Johnson, Apr. 29, 2011)
Notice the names:
General Atomics Aeronautical Systems (HQ San Diego, CA, US)
Military Police System, Inc. (HQ Piney Flats, TN, US; also own the patents of Maxwell Atchisson)
US Department of Defense
TASER International (HQ Scottdale, AZ, US)
BAE Systems (HQ London, UK)
Raytheon (HQ Waltham, MA, US)
Boeing (HQ Chicago, IL, US)
QinetiQ (HQ Farnborough, Hampshire UK; “George Tenet served as an independent non-executive director“)
Remington (HQ Madison, NC, USA)
Heckler & Koch (HQ Oberndorf am Neckar, Germany)
I’m actually funded by Soros and Maurice. Above your pay grade though useful one. I’m here to reinforce your training and insure that there are no dissenters requiring reeducation.
Social Security has become a defacto income tax because the money is not being saved for worker pensions, but is instead being used as a general income tax fund. It’s more of a “bait and switch” than a “ponzi scheme.”
The minute Social Security is privitized, the next step will be an effort to “assure worker retirements” by forcing people to purchase annuities with their 401K funds (that has already been proposed!). That way both the bankers and the insurance industry can grab a chunk of worker’s savings.
I mostly feel sorry for Cokie….she started off in the early days of women in TV news with a jump start due to a very famous father and mother and true family tragedy. I have been a fan until it has become apparent that she has not evolved since those long ago and far away days…..She could have been a contender….
G’Morning, Bev
Yes, I remember that. It always made me feel it was used in a disenginuous mannter. Or what? Being “politically correct”?
Or like adding a *g* after a rude remark. Like, didn’t really try to be mean.
You are ignoring the obvious fix. Raising the cap. Raising the tax. It’s that simple.
I don’t know if you are rich. You are surely defending them. The rich are throwing money at Politicians to wreck Social Security. They want it for Wall Street. It could be the next Pump and Dump. What else could be the next “bubble”?
No manufacturing. Everything has been offshored. Then they killed Real Estate and Construction. I can’t think of the next bubble to exploit. Except for SS.
Whom are you calling liars. The so-called “problem” of Social Security is that in the year 2037 or so, depending on economic growth and employment, the Trust fund surplus is depleted and the incoming payroll taxes cover about 80% of scheduled payments. To achieve 100 percent coverage requires a minor adjustment to incoming revenues. To call this a crisis, and call those who deny liars is unjustified. See any of many Dean Baker columns correct misreprsentations:
http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/beat-the-press/if-frank-bruni-knew-arithmetic-he-wouldnt-write-columns-like-this-one
;) Yep, a snarky “peace”…doesn’t quite work…
Say what? If SS is a “Ponzi scheme,” then all insurance policies are “Ponzi schemes,” because (Hello), that’s what it is.
Very nicely stated, Rev. You hit the nail on the head.
Your link is to “professional” libertarian drivel, the lazy dishonesty of “human nature”.
Post-partisan, post-communitarian, and post-thinking and feeling a part of the larger human family, to which ALL human beings have the obligation of respect, love, and patience … seven generations hence.
Such smug selfishness and superiority as this link and your comments ALWAYS present, iseeitfx, suggests that your own sense of self with your self-professed “precise” grasp of reality … does not evidence a seeking of developing shared understanding of humanity’s common plight of being manipulated and made mere servants to the heartless Masters, but rather that you would simply prefer to be one of the Masters yourself as you, apparently, have the heartless “aspect” well in hand, and the disdain.
Your sole purpose in coming to this site is to discourage and diminish.
You evidence not the slightest interest in anything but playing with your own philosophical toes, regarding the “stuff” found betweeen them to be heady enlightenment and the finest of food for thought.
Should you ever venture into the real world of compassionate and honestly alive human beings, then you might consider returning here to express your wonderment and surprise … until such a time, you are the most churlish of wee-minded trolls, well-deserving of the responses you occassionally receive.
Better that you are completely ignored, for you contribute nothing … and all of your sound and fury signifies precisely the same … nothing.
I don’t accept that characterization either.
Payroll taxes are collected by US Government and credited (a keystroke on an electronic spread sheet) to the SS Trust Fund/accounts which then are available to make SS payments. That account is used to make SS pyaments to beneficiaries, but the account is in surplus — about $2.5 trillion in surplus. Instead of just sitting there in that “checking” account, the surplus is loaned back to the Treasury, which credits the account with Treasury bonds, backed by full faith and credit of US. The bonds earn interest, which is in turn also credited to the SS account.
The US can then use the money from this “sale” of bonds to run government operations. I don’t have a problem with that.
Hey Alan: Is that you?
Bullseye. “Pump and Dump.” I like that. I’m going to steal it, giving you full credit, of course. heh
Oh good Gawd. Social Security is NOT a Ponzi scheme. Please educate yourself before you make such stupid comments.
Ponzi schemes vs. Social Security
Or maybe just go away.
Thanks…great pic…;)
I suggest everyone flag iseeitfx as inappropriate at MyFDL, and maybe the mods will delete the account and reduce the drivel.
Sorry, I’m being pretty nasty, but this stuff just pi$$es me off.
All depends on whose numbers you believe darlin’. Are you afraid of the dark? Put another way; since you are highly likely to be for ‘inclusion’, ‘diversity’, ‘openmindedness’(yeah, I’m making that a word in this rabbithole).
Then please do openmindedness yourself this, and after doing so (you won’t) provide a credible rebuttal. (you can’t).
http://www.oftwominds.com/blog.html
Hey Paulie: Is that you?
Pump and Dump is a term used by day traders. day traders are waht have become of investors. Anyone who buys and holds will get burned. Pump and Dump.
Look at the short sellers in congress. Eric Cantor for ex.
That would be good I suppose. But alas poor me must work for a living. I would no doubt enjoy pretend world as you suggest, in fact I even occasionally bask in all the ease of such a fantasy.
Then I wake up and engage. Tough, but such is life in this real world.
Actually, Scarecrow, the comparison to SS is much more superficial than that. It bears very scant resemblance to Ponzi. You might want to read my link at #52. I didn’t understand the specific difference at all until I read that (which was linked from Krugman’s blog a couple of days ago). Extremely clear explanation.
There’s a rule around here about blogwhoring. Just sayin’
There went my breakfast… ;-)
He is (arguably) the creepiest MF in DeeCee. Just ask yourself: Would you leave your children alone with him? He just has that sorta vibe…
Of course it does. Wouldn’t want any discomfort now would you?
Cognitive dissonance is a defining characteristic of progressivism.
That is how cults work.
I would have alot more respect over your concern for seeing reality if the problem with SS were not 25 years out in terms of when the problem hits–I agree that there is a problem and that we do need to fix it, but the problem is that there are much more pressing concerns in terms of targeting policy–policy needs to focus on the here and now–we have immense defense and health expenditures, likely financial fraud and a terribly depressed economy–correct me if I’m wrong, but fixing social security right now fixes none of the above problems—hell, global warming is a more immediate problem than SS
also, if you want to have an intelligent discussion and convince people of your opinions, then I suggest leaving out the platonic insinuation that we FDL’ers but see the shadows of reality when you, the ubermensch, are alone capable of turning round to see the shadow-casting reality–argue actual policy on actual facts
so, why do we need to deal with SS now? what is the urgency? is it more important than sorting out economic, war, dilapidated infrastructure, soaring health costs, growing poverty? if so, why?
Your crap does not contribute to the discussion — you don’t engage, you just disparage and expect us all to accept it. And looking over your comment history, that is all you ever have done here — disparage.
It doesn’t make me uncomfortable, it just gets in the way of intelligent discussion. There are lots of folks here who don’t share the same views, but they’re welcomed as long as they engage in the discussion with links to back their arguments. Your put-downs don’t provide either engagement or sources.
On edit: Thanks for a good post, Scarecrow. A great summary of the bobbleheads I refuse to watch.
Obviously you haven’t yet ascertained just exactly how far out of your league you are around here. You should listen more and talk less. Maybe you might learn something. (“Maybe” being the operative word.)
Is that yout website?
You pompous jerk…By what authority (quo warrantro) were you deemed knowledge source of the world? Thank you for your slimy efforts to tell us how everything works….how would we manage without you, O phony wise one.
You’re here to be a buttplug. And doing very well at it.
You prove yourself to be false. What an interesting case study in progressivism. It would be fascinating too study the unfortunate circumstances that have produced you.
Just the sort of undertaking that ‘progressives’ ( although they will likely call themselves something else) are likely to take up in the future.
If only. Not.
“Any of you titans of intellectual grandeur ever leave the basement and actually have a peak into reality?”
Good question there genius—to ask yourself. Of course, most selfish libertarians lack the genuine power of introspection, so I suppose this commentary is utterly lost on you. Slobs like you just want the collective benefits that society offers but don’t want to pay your fair share for it.
So go away now—and stay away.
Hey Glenn: Is that you?
Another very well-written comment, DW, but a shame to waste it on that particular audience. Btw, not a single mention in today’s NYT online about the demonstration, NY Post says “300″ “students and aging hippies.” BUT, my friend in NY says he saw some TV coverage on the local ABC, CBS, and NBC stations.
I can’t believe that most political blogs are still covering this irrelevant nonsense. It’s an inside-the-Village event, much like comparing wheat yields would be in West Kansas.
Most Christian religious folks are at church. Most non-religious folks are relaxing and couldn’t care less about these self-important overpaid nitwits. It persuades no one, adds nothing at all to the political discourse, and exists solely to allow the couple dozen of regulars on these shows (and the “pundits”) to preen.
They ignore the people in this country and elsewhere. The people in the country and elsewhere ignore them. They have lost their value as comedy.
Can’t progressive blogs just ignore them?
You are of the ilk who profess that the only “good” worker is one who is hungry or possessed of some small dream which may goad her or him into working diligently for the dreams of the Master.
You assume that no one else, here, works for a living?
You and you alone “understand”?
Yes, “poor” you … this IS a dog-eat dog world and you aspire to be the biggest of dogs, seeing and seeking NO possiblity of change.
Then, go on with you, snarling and biting, while the rest of us try, when not working for our living, to do the harder WORK of seeking a more just, a better, and a sustainable human world.
You deserve our pity more than our scorn.
I truly feel very sorry for you, wee iseeitfx, for your dreams are tiny and the life you happily, and even if you “believe”, reasonably, embrace is a nightmare for others … and even for yourself
May your spirit find some purpose beyond working at small things until the day which you die, unsung, unappreciated, and only briefly remembered and remarked upon … that is the small fate you may bitterly embrace, please do not wish it upon others.
You are a bitter soul, iseeitfx, may you find some peace that does not require that you vex yourself trying to convince others to become like yourself … for that is ALL that you now seek … that you may be confirmed in the exultation of your empty bitterness.
Good bye, iseeitfx, I shall no longer engage in conversation with you on these threads, and urge others to, likewise, pay you no mind.
You all don’t need to be so pissy! So I’ll admit that I’m here to “disparage”. I only began commenting after having spent a very long time following this blog. I followed openleft as well. I get it that I piss you people off……So what? Do you really think you have it all figured out? Really?
That is the funny part. Many of you (IMHO) really are decent and intelligent people. I’m merely suggesting that you have been made myopic by allowing yourselves to be isolated from sources of information that, although discomfiting to you never less offer insight that could be helpful in achieving some of the outcomes you rightful identify as desirable, (think income/wealth disparity; seemingly permanent war; corruption ect).
My intent is not to insult you (although I acknowledge that I have), my intent is to get you out of your box and hopefully have you grow toward a willingness to get over the left/right sandbox fight and become more effective.
I’ll say it again: Your ideals are not the problem. Your methods/maps are the problem.
You will not ever get what you desire while wandering about lost with a broken/pretend compass.
Big media ignores, rc, but word is filtering out. Let us see what today might bring? I hope you are well-rested, as I look forward to your thoughts through this day.
DW
Well said, TD, I fully concur.
Indeed, I’ve not watched the tube for over eight years and confess to having not missed it (and the nitwits) a bit.
;~DW
Treasury bills are a Ponzi scheme. They’ve not been fully funded. And like Social Security they depend on Republicans not to default on the “good faith and credit of the American people”.
If Social Security is a Ponzi scheme, so is all US government debt.
Apparently, investors disagree with the idea that T-bills are a Ponzi scheme. So why should we take your thoughts about Social Security seriously? What gives your three blog links such privilege of being true? Because you said so?
Nothing left to Pump and Dump in many countries hence the global effort to finish cleaning out the till. Raid those Treasure Islands!
For all the reasons cited in this editorial, I am deleting This Week on ABC from my Sunday morning news programs. I watched the debut of Up with Chris Hayes on MSNBC, and I found his over-caffeinated enthusiasm for pushing the Progressive agenda a welcome relief from watching Liz Cheney, Haley Barbour or any other Tea Party idiot ABC booked. If it wasn’t for Paul Krugman, ABC would hardly have any Progressive voices at all. Donna Brazile is basically an Obama apologist. It’s bad enough that there is no balance on the Sunday morning news shows, but even if there was balance, is that really so desirable? Is it such a good thing to give equal treatment to both sides when one side is completely nonsensical and has been disproved time and time again? At worst, the mainstream Sunday news programs give Tea Party/Republican/Corporate Democrats a stage to spew their nonsense. At best, they’ll throw someone like Paul Krugman into the mix and confuse their viewers into thinking that both viewpoints carry equal weight. And God forbid Sara Palin so much as lets a fart squeak out. The Sunday morning shows will focus on that fart like a lazer beam. Same thing for any Mid-East revolutions. Thousands could protests in the streets in the Middle East, but our media won’t take notice until some of the protesters take to Facebook and Twitter. Then all our media will blather on about is how the “new media” provided the spark for the revolution. The Sunday morning shows have a lemming, group think mentality and I am not following them off the cliff any longer, especially now that I have a better alternative with Chris Hayes.
“My intent is not to insult you (although I acknowledge that I have), my intent is to get you out of your box and hopefully have you grow toward a willingness to get over the left/right sandbox fight and become more effective.”
In that case, you have utterly failed. The only thing you convinced us of is that you are an arrogant boor that doesn’t really belong here because you are in way over your head. There is lots of advice here from other posters—you’re the one that needs to take advice, not us.
Yep. Shows a profound ignorance of the fable of King Midas.
I really enjoy how smart the FDL crowd is. I’m very proud of the physical steps made here toward change – the support of Dan Choi, signed appeals for justice, the willingness to physically protest the Sand Tar Pipeline in front of the WH – and serving time behine bars (like Scarecrow did!).
I’m inspired by the sweet souls of people here whom I’m proud to call friends, the way we lift each other up, and even sometimes call each other out to reconsider perhaps unthoughtful comments.
This is a great place to visit. It’s a great place to come to be educated.
Rock on, Dogs.
I share your view that we’re a people taught to think inside the box, but if you think the answer to that is getting all your thoughts from Murdoch’s FOX then I think we here could at least move you into a larger box.
Bow(wow!)ing in your direction, demi, of the bombshells, blonde.
You have, as is yer wont, brought smiles and joy to this place of conjecture and effort, of courage and honest appreciation.
How be you this new and hopeful day?
;~DW
Yeah, Scarecrow, that fucker Bill Clinton had a lot of nerve giving us all that peace and prosperity, the bastard!
He hated poor people so much that 7 million people rose above the poverty level during his tenure.
He catered to the rich so much that he gave us a progressive income tax.
Oh wait, we’ll hear the old bullshit about Gramm-Leach-Bliley which originated with Republicans in congress and came out with a veto proof vote.
A reformed Obamabot is like a dry drunk they hang on to their Clinton derangement.
Clinton made a lot of mistakes. I would have loved a more liberal administration but I can’t think of a more successful presidency for everyone in the last 50 years.
Seconded, DW. Here, here!
Dear, dear Scarecrow and other doughty warriors here! Last night I read again Plato’s version of Socrates’ Apology before the Athenian Assembly which condemned him to death. And so, not hearing our version of said assembly this morning, thanks to you good folk here I can instead hear the Socratic defense of our time. (Worth remembering that the difference between life and death in Socrates’ case was only thirty votes.) I already posted a significant quotation on last night’s diary on the subject of knowing who we are, but let it also come here with reference to a few posters (they know who they are) and the update from Scarecrow with respect to Lindsay Graham:
“In battle it is often obvious that you could escape being killed by giving up your arms and throwing yourself on the mercy of your pursuers, and in every kind of danger there are plenty of devices for avoiding death if you are unscrupulous enough to stick at nothing. But I suggest, gentlemen, that the difficulty is not so much to escape death; the real difficulty is to escape from doing wrong, which is far more fleet of foot. In this present instance I, the slow old man, have been overtaken by the slower of the two, but my accusers, who are clever and quick, have been overtaken by the faster – by iniquity. When I leave this court, I shall go away condemned by you to death, but they will go away convicted by truth herself of depravity and wickedness. And they accept their sentence even as I accept mine. No doubt it was bound to be so, and I think the result is fair enough.” (Hugh Tradenick, translation)
Our own Athenian assembly assembles now every Sunday morning, and they put Socrates on trial even though he is only invisibly present. Here, on firedoglake.com, he stands with you. Pretty fine company, I would say.
Namasting back to you too, DW.
Just sharing my own feelings about what I read here.
I’m going to work in the garden today. The infection seems to be pretty much gone and I finally have the energy to get outside and get my hands dirty. I love to pull weeds – it’s so cathartic.
I’m looking forward to getting back to volunteering at the Food Bank this week too.
Helping sonny boy focus on what he might want to study in college next year. We’re looking at campuses, online and in person.
I’m alive. I’m whole. And, all is well.
You have any projects planned for the day?
Thanks, pfu.
You’re most welcome, demi. The purity and kindness of your heart shows through here at the lake.
I share your sentiments, but, hating the idea of censorship, I believe it’s best to just ignore him. Then we can have the pleasure of watching his rage and frustration mount until he literally implodes before our eyes. He craves the attention.
I also do not share the anti-Clinton sentiments of many here. I agree with you. I’m just saddened that his behavior so badly tainted his legacy. And I usually agree with Scarecrow, but I don’t think it’s such a bad thing that his appearance was intended to promote the Global Initiative instead of supporting Obama, who doesn’t deserve it.
And now some outside chores beckon, before the predicted rain showers begin.
You’re too kind. If I say anything that is inspiring, it’s because there were two people who taught me about Love, Service and Faith. Love for the Planet, Service to the Needy, and Faith in the potential greatness of humanity.
My pop, Jimmy Allen and my Fairy Godmother, Nez Smith. RIP, you two and thanks for continuing to support me my words and deeds.
A lively post and thread – and mostly things that are hard to argue with -
but
“President Clinton, the man who made it okay to disrespect poor people and whose economic advisers set the foundation for the financial collapse and looting of America”
is mostly wrong – as we’ve discussed when you were unable to find specifics to back those assertions that Krugman and others would agree made your point
but it is good to stick to your guns – thanks for a fun thread.
I think the libertarian lone wolf just wants people to go to his website and purchase his erotic fiction.