Fred “Fuckwit” Hiatt needs the be marched naked from Tikrit to Basra with a sign in Arabic around his neck that says “I applauded the slaughter of your wives, sisters, and children.”

pw!

Hey, he’s stupid enough he’d probably agree to it. For at least the first ten minutes.

Suz!

We have lived safely for the decade since not because we misread those dangers but because we responded to them in a manner in which, on balance, Americans can take pride.

Hey Fred, ya muddled fuck – remember civil rights? Never mind, I guess I should be proud of my shiny, new, patriotic yet impotent and insignificant place as a teeny tiny cog in the safeness machine.

Sadly, PW, we also utilized a ton of DU munitions in Falluja too..! The subsequent deformities from the inherent radiation, are well documented too…! 8-(

Fred Hiatt is a fool.

we have an entire generation who have never lived without fear fear fear and fallujah fred has done more than his share amping of the fear factor

I might add that we had managed to live safely for many more decades prior to that without invading countries who never did anything to us, blowing up lots of innocent people, gutting the Bill of Rights, or imposing massive Security State Theater everywhere we go.

I’d still like to see where he is referencing this new conventional wisdom. Sure, you see it in the progressive, left-leaning and anti-war press, but it has always been there. I’ve been saying that it was an overreaction from the beginning. It is a shame that I can find so few that share that belief. I have yet to hear any politician get up and say that it was an overreaction. I’ll believe it is conventional wisdom when I hear my politicians say it. I think he’s easily full of shit.

Fearful people are more easily manipulated and led.

Yup. DU, white phosphorus, the whole kit and caboodle — there’s very little the residents of Fallujah haven’t experienced in the way of warfare over the past decade.

Yup. One of the lessons we learned in The Shock Doctrine.

You’ll note that Hiatt never provided any evidence that the so-called “conventional wisdom” was wrong. It’s the only way his arrogant ilk can win a debate.

Actually, we have known it at least since The Prince.

They’d basically razed the entire area after the ‘hanging’ on the bridge…! 8-(

Tragically, one of the hangee’s was a Big Isle resident, SFC Batalona…!

You’ll also notice, if you read the whole wretched thing, that he doesn’t mention just how many more people were killed in the wars on Iraq and Afghanistan than died on 9/11. Even by the extremely conservative official reckonings, it’s at least two orders of magnitude, and very likely three.

Matt Taibbi summed it up best (when has he not) right here at a FDL book salon last year:

Fred Hiatt was the Moscow bureau chief when I was there in the nineties. He would have made an excellent Soviet reporter, let me put it that way.

I left a little something for Fred in the tip box. Boy, the comments are just killing him. How does one write something so factually wrong, go to bed and then somehow manage in the morning to face the day? I suppose being the editorial page top dog helps, but you’d think he’d be getting publicly ridiculed every day of his life.

Sure, but those were a bunch of foreigners. Do you really think they matter in Hiatt’s eyes?

Good Evening, P Dub
You have such a fine mind and a great way with words.
You are consistantly awesome and I thank ye.

How does one write something so factually wrong, go to bed and then somehow manage in the morning to face the day?

It’s not hard if you love your cushy job more than the truth.

Now they want to use Al Quaeda Bubba, and bring the war home.

http://my.firedoglake.com/jest/2011/09/10/cnn-right-wing-extremists-are-the-biggest-terrorist-threat-to-the-us/

CNN? Hmmmm. Oligarch Central.

Civil War in the US? That ought to do the rest of the job on what’s left of the Republic.

Cause we all know that the greatest threat to the Republic is Bubba with a gun rack on the truck.

http://www.infowars.com/rumsfeld-attack-imminent-if-congress-cuts-defense/

Don’t look at the Oligarchs & Oligarchical Banking robbing us 9 ways till Sunday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZR64EF3OpA

False Flag II / Patriot Act II anyone?

God, I hope we’ve learned something about how oligarchs operate in these last 10 terrible years.

Right up there with William Safire, who was spewing nonsense about Mohammed Atta, Prague and Wales round about the time that Paul Krugman was dinged for citing a Jason Leopold piece in Salon that didn’t quite hold up in the NYT’s eyes, the standards for conservative and liberal columnists being quite different.

Yeah Fred is just another cheap operator at the MSM’s Phantasmagoria.

“Carnival” – Natalie Merchant

Ah ha. Another reason for me to not feel too badly about being unemployed. No worries here.

No reason you should feel bad about being unemployed, if the corporate bosses of the world don’t bother feeling bad about making you that way.

Think I’m going to wander off. Cozy bed and good book calling my name. Peace out, y’all!

at least two orders of magnitude, and very likely three.

The number of Iraqis who have died due to the war is around one million.

I had a job near the Pentagon once which took me the first day with my employer’s Federal client to figure out just how badly both I and the client had been lied to. I told my boss that they either corrected the situation or I walked. The next day my new boss tried to lie me into compliance. You should have seen the look on his face when I picked up my brief case and walked out never to return.

Mclaughlin Group some dork was saying Bush/Obama did the right thing by not closing down Guantanamo Bay.
That the Left was attacking the war he tried to say we were against the war in Afghanistan we were against the way it was fought little things like moving troops in Afghanistan to fight in Iraq little things like that let Ossama live for 10 years.
Little things like torture making everyone hate us there and getting more troops killed. Little things like civilians getting killed making more civilians hate us.
Little things like war crimes we executed people for in WW2.

That is nowhere near the number Mclaughlin or Rachel Maddow’s special said I think the 10 year anniversary of 9/11 is the MSM and the Right’s big chance to rewrite history.

I’ve walked out several times myself. See how we are? I won’t be lied to and I won’t lie for them either. Myself, I like to sleep well at night and face the morrow with an unburdened heart.

We have lived safely for the decade since not because we misread those dangers but because we responded to them in a manner in which, on balance, Americans can take pride.

Right and West Point won’t be spending a generation going over what went wrong in both wars even more than they did Vietnam?
Lets see longest war America has ever fought. We lost 2 wars because we moved troops to attack Iraq before we won in Afghanistan? We now take pride in torture and killing civilians. Unlike the end of WW2 we had no Marshall Plan to rebuild those nations? Instead we let Kate O’Beirne husband try and set up a free market economy in Iraq that ended up resulting in how many unemployed Iraq’s all eager to make a buck shooting Americans?

Myself, I like to sleep well at night…

Amen, demi…! ;-)

I hear you. I won’t have it any other way. It felt freakin’ awesome to simply say “no,” turn on my heel dressed to the nines and stroll out from the heart of the Big Evil.

I bet. And, good for you. There is just so much that we do not have control over. We can at least be honest with ourselves.

Trying to justify 2 wars the majority of Americans want over is like trying to explain your cheating to your wife.
From a PR standpoint the best you can hope for is she tunes you out. The last thing you want is for her to pay attention and trap you in another lie she hasn’t found out about yet.
Either come clean with the truth the whole truth and take your punishment or hope she forgets.
Stories about your cheating your drinking buddies buy are not going to convince anyone but the choir.

Somewhere a GOP pollster and a Dem pollster is being ignored by Karl and Obama who is saying the more unemployed people there are talking on the net for longer and longer periods of time the more the Left grows, gets more organized and self reinforces to be more Left.
After the revolution I would love to read his/her ignored report.

Indeed, but the officially-US-sanctioned sources don’t count more than around 200,000 or so. The unofficial sources go considerably higher: Lancet had it pegged at over 655,000 early on, or about one out of every forty Iraqis who were alive prior to March of 2003. (By the way, Saddam Hussein himself killed about 290,000 at most, and that took him over two decades to do. Bush got 655,000 in less than four years.)

I wonder which handler in Langely actually wrote this trash?

My how things have changed, we can actually use the R word without censor.

I’m sure that someone important knows what is discussed here.

We always looking for new Indians to kill and slaughter in the name of that shinning city on a hill.We were going to free the new Indians if we had to kill every last one of them. The people never forget to remember what our out sourced military did to their families and love ones. We have over a million people gathering intelligence alone.We still not safe. We crated this neighbor hood of the world.To the people who we are trying to protected We are the bad cops on the take.They not after us for our freedom. They are after us because of what we did to their families in the name of the war on terrorism. Believe you me that a helluva motivator.

At the time I was dealing with the environment there, it was rife with no-talk/secrecy rules. After observing from afar what a few folks did to themselves in order to not flip their lids or seeing folks just flip out anyway– and I purposefully only took commercial jobs that didn’t require NDAs or any type of clearance– it became crystal to me of the relationship between lying and poor health. At the time, people could still get away with using alcohol and not lose their ability to be in the job market at all, their security clearance, their jobs, and their retirements. Also there were a lot of commercial jobs for some period but they all became entirely militarized when Bush took office. A toxic work environment became entirely intolerable over time.

PW, just reading this now.

Incredible.

Thank you.

Yeah, take that shut to Fallujah n spin it, Fred. Or here at MY house for that matter.

Fuk you, you fukkin fuck.

N thanks PW, for all ya do for us readers.

This one was grand.

*narrowedeyesgrand*

Bastids. *spits*

How do a people know about war? When they get the bejesus bombed out of their neighborhoods. This country has known too much peace and too much prosperity – especially the backward South. One wishes that a day will come when these people are personally acquainted with war. It is only then that they will understand and change. A man who has never taken a punch is always ready and willing to fight.

You could see these wars as a sort of dip stick with which to measure the depth of contempt that the oligarchs have for everyone else. You could look, domestically, at that farce of a health care bill or at criminal neglect of unemployment or at predetory lender schemes masquerading as help for distressed home owners, and you could say,’Hey. These people think we are lower than snake shit.’

Then look at Falujah and Basra and Baghdad and see what they really think of us.