Damn you, Blue Texan! I just lost two IQ points looking at that picture. I demand an apology!

These people really have a problem spelling simple words but they’ve got the talking points down to a “t” if ya talk to ‘em, which I try to avoid any more.

Mommy… That woman’s scaring me. Make her stop.
The photo also reminds me of the teabagger with the sign that said I don’t want to press 1 for English.

Hi demi how goes it..
As for Perry he is just another POS on the Right worth nothing more than the carbon dioxide the he breaths out… of course he IS wasting OUR oxygen…

I think Perry is just throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks. His thoughts on SS won’t and he’ll lose seniors. He’s going to lose a lot more people when they really start to listen to him – he’s as looney as all the others.

I think if Perry thinks immigration will be a problem with the Tea Party, he’ll propose automated guns on watchtowers.

Boxturtle (With hollow points)

Just about everyone in the political class wants more immigration, so it’s not surprising that Perry wants it, too. Just about anybody who has any power or wealth wants this. They understand how lots of immigration helps to keep the laboring classes hunkered down and compliant.

“You can bet Willard’s campaign is licking their chops over this.”

I have to admit Willard’s growing on me. He has such a Ned Flanders vibe, what kind of dork issues a 59 point economic plan? But the guy comes across as a good egg even when he’s being stupid.

There was one of those press 1 signs at a local rally. Teabaggers tend to copy one another. I suggest if he didn’t want to press 1 for english, he should learn spanish and then he could press ocho.

The suggestion was not well received.

Boxturtle (I think I want the pictureof the fellow with the MORANS sign on a tshirt)

hollow points?? Naw depleted uranium 30 mm canon rounds…

BT, he has sorta hinted at that already.

Plus it helps fill the prisons. The US prison population is now over 50% Hispanic.

You really think Romney will call Perry out on allowing educational assistance for the children of illegal immigrants?

I mean, he might be desperate enough to move to the right on that, but I’d be surprised. Has he spoken about this before?

Of course Perry opposes EVerify. At least half of his major donors rely on undocumented workers to hold down their costs and pad their profits. Not to mention the Texas agricultural industry which is almost wholly dependent on them. This has always been true in Texas. I can remember during a crackdown by IHS in the late 70s-early 80s when the farmers of SW Oklahoma went on TV to oppose it because they said they would go broke without the undocumented workers.

I think that probably true in California as well. Maybe Florida, too.

I’m partial to chain-fed mini-guns.

I agreed on the “59 plan” and that Romney does APPEAR to be level headed when he’s not otherwise engaged in saying “corporationa are people too”.

Keep an eye on Perry. Although he’ll say anythig to get elected. He says things that will cost him the election too. This guy bumps into coffe tables all the time.

Keep in mind, that while Perry has good reasons for some of his positions…he has no reasoning behind some others.

I tend to agree, Twain. Some of his statements are so outrageous, I’m beginning to think that he’s a staking horse…for someone.

One of the higher-ups in Romney’s campaign, after hearing Perry call SS “a ponzi scheme”…again…said:

“Rick Perry will never be the president of the United States.”

I agree. The worst thing about Perry and his sisters, Michelle and Sarah, is that they make Obama look like a REAL “centrist”.

Dangerous man. :o)

Sorry, I stepped away. Sissy called to give me the update on mom’s post eye surgery appointment, that I was supposed to have taken her too. But, with me being on doctor ordered bedrest and pumped full of drugs….:(
Mom’s fine though and I am healing. Just extremely antsy.

I want to make a sign that says I will press “one” to make them shut up and go to their caves.

It’s true almost everywhere including Arizona where they passed that draconian law SB 1070

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_SB_1070

A more cynical law is hard to find. AZ, in particular, relied heavily on undocumented workers – knowingly recruited by AZ businesses – to work on the cheap in the construction, food, hotel & janitorial services industries, plus the usual pool boys, gardeners, nannies & cleaning ladies. When the economy went bust, suddenly AZ wanted to kick ‘em all out and demonized “dirty Messicans” as if THEY were responsible for crash (much like how Scott Walker made it popular to blame the 2008 crash on unionized workers, esp teachers, PD & fire fighters, etc).

It’s a cheap trick. See the excellent documentary Food, Inc. which has section about undocumented workers definitely *recruited* in third world countries by US food services businesses to come work on the cheap in the USA in unsafe & unhealthy working conditions. When the ICE comes to check on their documents, the workers get shipped back to their “home” country, usually without being paid their last paycheck, but the US business owner doesn’t even get a tap on the wrist.

These industries are mostly in mid-America, like in Arkansas & TN, etc. Undocumented workers benefit US businesses across the country, believe me, not just in a few isolated states.

The scapegoating of undocumented workers is one of the big ongoing ploys to pit racists in America against lowly paid workers, who do sh*t jobs that no one else WANTS to do…. but it’s a useful strategy for the upper 2%. A real win-win for the rich. They get mega-cheap labor that they can abuse in unsafe working conditions & can then have ICE kick them out of the country without their last paycheck. There’s plenty more where they came from. And the lower class USA rubes can be easily *distracted* by being pit against undocumented workers…. rather than really seeing who’s ripping them off… the upper 2%.

Same old, different day…

Michigan, too.

The worst thing about Perry and his sisters, Michelle and Sarah, is that they make Obama look like a REAL “centrist”.

Eh? So what you’re saying is that Perry is doing very WELL the job that he has been hired to do??? Make Obama “look good.”

Demi, I did not know about your mom, but glad to hear she’s OK. And you, also. I was about to ask what “we” knew about you. Glad you are following dr’s orders….Good for you. Does it feel like you are mending? Or, can you tell?

If a company tells me to do something, does that mean I should do it?

demi, what’s wrong? Geez, I stayed off line for a day or so, minimized my time for a day or so before that…partly for physical reasons, partly to keep from getting pissed off reading about politics.
Now demi’s on bedrest, my cousin and his bride (of less than a week) had to come home from honeymoon early ‘cuz his new stepdaughter (young adult) has been hospitalized with mysterious illness, and my other cousin (his sister) has had to pump out a flooded basement and pull up carpet, etc., etc., while being cut off from civilization by flooded roads (eastern Pennsylvania).
Good grief.

It depends on what you want. If the way they have their phones set up requires you to press “1″ for English, you don’t have to unless you need to speak to an English speaking person.
I’m not sure what you are really asking.

I am healing. Just not as quickly as I want. I imagine that there are some people who would welcome the doctors orders of staying horizontal, but I’m not one of them. If only I loved to watch daytime television. ha.

Oh, just a cat bite that turned into a staph infection.
Don’t blink, tejanarusa. Ya never know what’s going to happen.

On topic – as n adopted Texan, I’m glad Perry has been pragmatic on immigration, but am not entirely sure why. Re: everify, yes, ag interests and other employers of “cheap” labor definitely prefer not to be held to legally-entitled to work employees, so that explains that.

But he did sign the Dream Act, although that was actually long enough ago that it appeared that the federal Dream Act had a pretty good chance of passing. It was in the last Lege session, so before the Tea Party came along and moved the Rparty from reactionary to positively medieval, so I don’t recall a lot of controversy about it at the time.
Maybe he would have signed it today, but I wouldn’t bet on it. His statement above regarding it is perfectlyl good, tho’ I wouldn’t believe it is his real reason.

It is sure true that leaving adults in limbo through inability to get an education or a job is a direct route to a separate and extremelly unequal under-underclass. I’d love to think that even Rick Perry understands that, but…
Having observed him (tho’ not closely until recently) for some time, I’d say it’s tough to tell what he actually believes. He has excellent political instincts, and that’s what was on display at the debate, I think. Pithy answers, short words, easily comprehended by the low-info low-smarts voter. That’s his strength.

On topic – as n adopted Texan, I’m glad Perry has been pragmatic on immigration, but am not entirely sure why.

The monied interests actually running the state benefit from cheap Mexican labor and they always have. Immigrant bashing riles the nativists, and that’s bad for business.

Always been that way.

Bush and Rover understood this, as well — but they were Texas Republicans, they had a blind spot. Their surprise when the Malkinites started freaking about SHAMNESTY! was geniune.

{{demi}}

Heal quickly!

And tejanarusa ~ wow I hope everything works out quickly for everyone ~ been through teh basement floods myself. That’s one of the worst.

Feeling antsy myself. Is it the anniversary-that-must-be-avoided or the stars? Masoninblue to the white courtesy phone please.

Ohmigawd. Cat bite? Lord, what next.

like you said:

Don’t blink, tejanarusa. Ya never know what’s going to happen.

I’m no Luddite, but life is moving just a teensy bit too fast for me lately.

Bedrest, huh? How long is it forecast to take to heal? Hope it’s soon.
(I was on bedrest a few decades ago. Discovered all the ABC soaps bc I didn’t have a remote. Just left the tv on….)

For sure…it’s all advertizing from the bit I have seen. Angela does not seem to bite, but she is wicked with sharp claws…even when I think she is being friendly….

Well, I did say, or mean to say, I get the cheap labor part. Hadn’t thought about the “riling up the nativists is bad for business” part, though.

Wow. Texas sure is complicated. Does that make it easier for these politicians to play all sides?

Oh, and, Perry AND his hair AND his voice are ugly and unpleasant as all get out, also. If you ask me.

With all due respect for Angela, if you stepped on her, hard, by accident, you don’t know what she would do.
Poor kitty. I feel so guilty.

I guess demi’s experience is a reminder for us cat folks to wash and disinfect whenever one of our furbabies catches us with a tooth or claw.

I think sometimes their instinctive reaction to their person startling them — which even I do sometimes without realizng it – is to slap out with a paw, with claws extended automatically. Only one of my cats has ever broken the skin (damn it hurt, too) and I let her know it was unacceptable. And headed for the bathroom to wash and pour peroxide or alchohol over it.
Whew.

Oh, my…is that what happened?

No forecast. Doc said as long as it takes to be fully healed. He threatened me that if I didn’t follow orders and it were to get worse, he’d admit me to the hospital and put me on an IV.
I’m hoping a week. Just a SWAG.

You follow those directions. Staph is nothing to fool around with.

Gotta go,

Take care all, have a good weekend if I don’t see you….

ohmmmm

I’ve been here 26 years this month-no, my god it’s 27 years!! – and am still trying to understand the place and some of the people.
And I’m in a Dem/lib oasis (tho’ getting more Repub – I blame the northerners moving in to the North Side, the most R part of town. For the most part, even 4th gen Mexican-Americans remain Dem).

He might not, but his surrogates (like those at the Washington Examiner) obviously will.

Eek! “As long as it takes!” Not words you want to hear, huh?

I did wash and put antibiotic ointment on, but it was a really deep bite. I was standing at the open sliding glass door facing in and talking to my mister in the LR. I stepped backwards and down onto the step which unfortunately was already occupied. So I think I stepped on him pretty hard. Really loud scareeech. Scared us both.

Thanks OmAli. Maybe tomorrow morning, eh?

which unfortunately was already occupied

Ouch! Poor kitty indeed. And poor you. I’ve stepped on tails or paws…usually there’s a screech and the victim disappears, perhaps with a dirty look tossed my way.
Goodness. Sounds like you did the right things. So sorry it happened.
What a weird summer it’s been all over.

Perry’s position becomes clear when you realize that his biggest contributor is homebuilder Bob Perry. Everyone in Texas knows that housing is cheaper in Texas because houses in Texas are built by undocumenteds. Perry and Perry like the status quo. Plus, there are lots of Hispanic voters in Texas.

Hope so but we are going for a hike at some point so don’t know :(

Bye for real!

Poor demi! Poor kitty!

Too true. Bob Perry is evil for many reasons.

So glad you didn’t fall; they seem to have a way of winding self around one’s feet…

Re Perry…for such an anti-gov guy….I think he won his first election in the late 80s. Been getting public financing every year (if Im correct), including the last 10 in housing for the gov. Seems to like gov’ment for himself.

Yeah, funny about that, isn’t it?
And you didn’t even mention that his govt housing for the last few years is rented, costing far far more than living in the gov’s mansion did. (True the mansion hasn’t been livable and even I don’t think he had the fire set so he could move, but…) He doesn’t have to live that luxuriously.

I wish that Americans SPOKE English! I’m an American who grew up in Australia, and asking for “tomahtoes” confuses them, like they’ve never heard the word before. I guess they don’t watch anything but American TV shows.

Perry’s campaign won’t suffer because, just like Obama’s supporters, they are caught up in the cult of personality and “believe” in their candidate. Facts mean nothing to these people, faith is everything.

Considering the extent to which the educational system has been degraded in this country, it won’t be long before you’ll have to draw a picture of the object you’re requesting.

Wouldn’t that depend on where and who sponsored Romney’s appearance?

Sorry to hear you are sick demi, hurry up and get better!! sorry I had to run and pick up Tucker at the groomers early… Not his favorite place to go…

holeybuybull, commenting above, is right. Details aren’t important to Conservatards or, for that matter, those still supporting Democrats.

Well, no one’s perfect.

It’s called an icon.

This is right. This is too factually based a criticism of Perry. Republicans are more about vulgar gestures and authoritarian symbols. As long as he’s in favor of trashing social insurance, cutting taxes on the ultra-rich, and waging wars on dark-skinned people, he’s fine with the GOP base.

One of the most interesting responses to the crackdown on immigration is coming from the dairy states. (I have heard stuff from Wisconsin and Vermont.) It seems that picking veggies is not the only agriculture up in arms. Dairy farmers are beginning to organize to come to the defense of their employees (how long has it been since THAT happened?)
Mexican dairy workers are trained professionals that the farmers totally love, like family. They cannot find Gringos willing and able to do this difficult labor 24/7. And the workers care for the dairy herds better than spoiled pets.
Have you noticed the price of milk lately? You have not seen anything yet if these farmers lose this one.

You must have missed the clip that Jon Stewart featured on a recent Daily Show where Romney said: “Middle income Americans, the average Americans, ought to have the highest income in the world.” He’s supposed to be the intelligent one. If “corporations are people” does that mean that people are corporations and can receive government subsidies rather than paying taxes?

If necessary, I will say tomaytoes, to be understood, but I shouldn’t have to. It’s just a little thing, but it’s really annoying.

I shudder to think what people with non-English accents go through.

It should be noted, however, that we in Texas do not let the illegal aliens vote unless they have a voter registration card. And you can only get those at a county office OR the local flea market.

Not only that, but does THAT mean they can get the Pizza Hut $5 pizza offer for the whole damn corporation????? That’s not fair.

Don’t think it matters what he’s saying. He posted a lame argument on another thread in support of the XL Pipeline of Death.

Don’t disregard the fact that Perry is also supported by Harold “Superfund” Simmons.

Plus you have to have an official Texas driver license OR state ID. And you cna only get those at the DMV or the local flea market.

I just have trouble using the term “icon” in that regard. Before the advent of computers, “icon” referred to a “sacred image”, not a picture of a hamburger on a cash register at McDonalds. Of course there was a time that “computers” referred to the people doing computations rather than machines.
Damn, I’m feeling ancient.

Yes, but, since this one goes against Party orthodoxy, it more likely falls into the “he has a reason for it” category. Not even Perry is dumb enough to shoot himself in the foot like that without a good reason.

No surprise. The people who support him want cheap labor, thus case closed.