Like a bunch of happy pigs rolling around in the mud, conservatives are really reveling in their anti-government fanaticism this week. After Marco Rubio (R-FL) explained how the Great Society and New Deal made the United States a nation of weaklings, Ron Paul (R-TX) declared that we don’t need FEMA and that things were like, way better in 1900.
(Editorial note: 1900 is the year up to 12,000 people died in the Galveston Hurricane. But at least they died free!)
Now, wingnut bloggers are scoffing at the idea that the chief executive of the federal government has any role to play in national disasters. It’s hard to tell if this is motivated by a) their anti-government hysteria; b) a Pavlovian response to anything the Kenyan Marxist Muslim does; c) an effort to rehabilitate George W. Bush’s spectacular Katrina fail; or d) all of the above.
But amidst all this crazy, one particularly wingnutty remark stands out.

Carpenter apparently doesn’t know that flash floods kill more people in the United States every year than terrorism. About half of them are vehicle related, i.e., people trying to drive through flooded areas.
In fact, just a couple weeks ago, four people were killed in Pittsburgh by a flash flood — including two children — and now the city is considering investing in a warning system to prevent future fatalities. To which Carpenter would no doubt reply, “Heh. Thanks Pittsburgh!”
Make no mistake — save Ron Paul — this isn’t the result of some genuine ideological opposition to government. These are the same dutiful authoritarians who took those ridiculous color-coded terrorism warnings from the Bush administration as gospel.
Would Carpenter be pointing and laughing at safety warnings if they were coming from President Perry? Would Powertools and Gateway Retard be attacking President Palin for being engaged as the largest city in the US is threatened by a major hurricane? Of course not.
These people really need help.



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They need to be committed.
Sociopaths all. Mean spirited, compassionless, ugly.
Can we tie a few of these right-wing pieces of shit to piers on the NYC shore and let them fend for themselves? Anything left can happily rot.
DeMint hired
the hackCarpenter last year (Jan. 25, 2010; my bold).Everything you say of wingnuttia is true. Any govt action no matter how small is the target of thier kneejerk criticism, but little cliques of people are like that. This wasnt a major hurricane however. It was a fairly run of the mill tropical storm ,especially by the time it reached NY. The kind the east coast sees at least one of per year. We had a wind storm last spring that caused more tree damage. Im all for govt action. Not little once -in- a -while govt action either but great big socialist govt intervention, but I got really nauseated by the posturing and fear mongering of Bloomberg and Christie (both of whom are permanent residents of the FDL shit – list for a dozen good reasons apiece) . And the media death storm hype got to be orwellian in its weirdness
Philip K. Dick
You do not have to show up for the FDL “shit” if it is not to your liking. Maybe I missed your point…
Thanks for the link. Great writer. Will read the whole speech later.
I hate to say it, but some of it could be ignorance. Flash floods scare the bejesus out of me, because I saw a car picked up and carried away by the one in my teens. Yet, I’m driving back from Tampa to Orlando with a group of educated women in their late twenties to early thirties and they laugh at me when I say that was flash flood warning for this area, let’s pull over and get a cup of coffee for the half hour they say it will be in effect. Not one of them got that the car is not a protection for one, because they did not understand the danger.
Methinks you misread that. Bloomberg and Christie are prolly on our shitlist, along with Darth, Shrub et al.
I doubt that this storm is just a minor annoyance to people who have water standing their homes, trees on top of their cars and houses, and especially those whose family members died – I think the last count I saw was 11.
yes, they need help. But are likely not to get much, particularly if they go to Bachmann’s husband’s type of mental health clinic. Phony therapy (most likely).
solerso was saying they are on the FDL shitlist.
(sigh)
You have no idea how badly I wish we had a transparent and legal voting system in South Carolina. It is beyond embarassing to have so many Kooks from the same state in leadership positions.
it never ceases to amaze me how really ignorant these people are. Amanda Carpenter is the senior communications advisor and speechwriter for the Senator and yet she’s appears to have an IQ of 82.
Her communications will be just like the ones coming from the Teahadists.
As far as the storm warnings I’d like to give my 25 cents worth.
We are at a time when Super or Monster storms and Tsunamis are hitting the states. I think everyone needs to be prepared and pay attention. If Katrina was useful for anyone to learn how not to handle a mega storm, then by all means be safe instead of sorry.
That’s true. I had no idea how dangerous flash floods were until I visited someone in AZ who explained it to me. In the east we have plenty of flooding but it usually comes out of big storms and is predictable in advance. It’s also somewhat analogous to driving in the snow. If you live where it rarely (or never) snows, you don’t understand the dangers, nor have you developed the skills you need.
But I also have a healthy respect for what bodies of water can do from my many years of hiking & backpacking. Way to easy for force of water to make you lose your balance. Even when I was a young risk taker, I was always scared of crossing decent size streams if there weren’t a bridge, and if there were and it was flimsy or narrow, I was very careful. Of course, I did most of that activity alone, but even if you have someone else along, if you fall in, there may not be anything the other person could do, depending on the configuration & swiftness of the stream.
I respect Sen. DeMint for having the courage to employ someone twice as smart as he is.
Excellent info, especially the flash floods vs. terrorism stuff. I mocked Irene myself, mainly because it seemed the media was over-hyping it. Better to be safe than sorry I suppose. Still, we can’t deny the I-95 corridor is a source of major advertising dollars. Hence: the hype. It fuels climate change denialists.
We have a winnah!
More people die of dogbites than terrorism, leading me to suggest that terrorists replace dogs as man’s best friend.
ha-ha! Yet we spend billions each year for that “Homeland” crap. Most of it is shored outside of the government to private firms. Not much oversight going on there, huh?
According to weather.com, we got 3.4″ of rain. Max prediction I saw a 5 (local weather channel had much bigger numbers, but they seemed unreasonable. I’m glad it was less rather than more, but still major flooding which won’t recede for a couple of days.
*giggle*
Nope. If you include Homeland crap, the U.S. has spent something like $8 trillion on the terrorism warz, and that does not include taking care of disabled soldiers for their rest of their lives, just the out of pocket to date. I’ll see if I can find the link.
It’s not just storms, either. All sorts of increasingly unwieldy weather events are starting to appear. Like hot-ass drought conditions. I’m in SoCal and it’s been well over 100 degrees for the better part of a week.
How about we get some of that east-coast rain, and they can have some of this heat? Sounds like a fair trade to me..
Glad you were safe and dry. I saw a clip of some reporters in Maryland talking about the sea foam.
I looked at the video and just about fell out of my chair. That is not sea foam! Sorry, but that is some kind of something from the twilight zone.
Never in my life seen sea foam like that and I’ve seen plenty of the stuff.
That was “shit-list” Bev. M-dash and extra spaces was confusing.
My Friend, We had an entire month here in the Carolinas where the heat index was at or over 102 degrees. You add in the usual southern humidity days and it was like a serious steam bath.
We don’t want anymore super heat days. We had many deaths from it.
I can’t put my finger on it, but there’s something I really hate about this bitch. Something different than Coulter and Malkin (they’re so yesterday). Dumb as dogshit, too.
You know you’ve struck gold when CNN comes up with another stupid musical (sic) interlude.
Morans.
Just what, exactly, do you have against dogshit, anyway? heh
Here’s the link to the $8 trillion warz.
Yup. It bites, alright…
Thanks for your kind remarks on the Screed.
Raw sewage, apparently.
you did. i think. he was saying bloomberg and Christie are on the FDL shitlist.
My trees in the backyard are terrorist free ! USA, USA,USA…….
speaking of flash floods
I saw that picture or a similar one. I’ve also spent a lot of time around salt water and seen plenty of sea foam. I’d like to see a chemical analysis of that water.
nothing, really, as long as it’s picked up. but who would want to pick up that bitch? BTW, I used to reserve “dumb as dogshit” exclusively for Dana Perino. Since she’s gone from her former job (and I rarely see her on TV) I feel free to use it when appropriate and with those people it has become appropriate, like, always.
Thanks to all…I certainly missed something…;)
I couldn’t watch anymore of the tv coverage so I didn’t see what you were talking about.
I think, considering the magnitude of the storm, and that I didn’t check my sump pump in advance (bad me), the house got thru it pretty well. Still pretty windy, which happens not infrequently. The danger today is that the ground is soaked & that makes big trees with shallow roots vulnerable to being blown over.
Supposed to be sunny for next week, and that should help the floods recede. It will take the ground quite awhile to dry out very much.
Mental gymnastics with the Morans, Live ?
Ewwwwwwwww!! You gotta be shi….. kidding me!
A gulp of water just went the wrong direction on that one. heh
I like it. Some cage-match action…
OMG! See! I told you that is not sea foam. Looks nothing like it and ohmygosh sewage? Raw? In the Ocean?
Now, I’ve seen my share of sewage systems being taken over by hurricane storms, but for it to empty into the ocean…..
YIKES!
We will have whales laid out from anti-depressants!
Name that corexit ?
Bev! We all do once in a while. Not to worry. We loves ya anyways.
My friend in Houston had to junk a car parked in front of her house that got water up past the bottom of the door, can’t remember by how much and whether it was a hurricane of just one of the many storms.
Trying to figure out which side of the door to walk through ?
Hey EC: I’m pretty sure you’re not allowed to do actual, ya know, factual reporting from the scene unless you come up with a lugubrious “theme song,” and then break for commercials about every 60 to 90 seconds. Some kinda FCC deal, or something…
They’re both pretty scary, so it’s a tough call.
ROTFLMAOFF!
It’s raining cold hard facts up in here!
“Flipper Does Benzodiazepines III – The Prequel.”
Sorry. I don’t understand.
here is the sea foam reporter:
http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/08/hurricane-irene-covers-reporter-completely-in-sea-foam/
Oh, I think he is a fox news reporter.
I’ll work on some kind of Shostakovich themesong. His dramatic music seems commensurate to the outdoor events.
I was reading Philip Knightly’s book “First Casualty” a month or so ago. It starts with the Crimean War, but I was up to the chapter on Hitler’s siege of Petrograd. It was after dark in the gazebo, but I have electricity and stereo there. So I came inside, put on my CD of Shos’s Seventh Symphony & went back out to read with the appropriate backgound music.
Shostakovich is an excellent choice. I admire your taste.
Dog bites and lightning strikes kill more Americans than terrorism.
Nope, not kidding. I Googled ‘seafoam’ and that’s one of the hits.
So back in the days when my son was smart and his head was screwed on right, 25 years ago when he was in Kindergarten, it was something like a 9-3 program, with a rest hour. The teacher used to play soothing classical music like Mozart. One day he sat up on his cot & spouted: Why don’t you play interesting music like Shostakovich. Prolly the last time we saw eye-to-eye on anything.
I ride my bike to classical music all the time. I’m able to stream Minnesota Classical Public Radio on my iPhone while I ride. Pedaled home this afternoon to Max Bruch. Love it.
OH, love it! Bet the teacher was surprised!
I’m quite partial to 20th century music myself. Give me the Complicated Dots…
On a completely different note, I am shamelessly blog-whoring today. (So far, I have written precisely two pieces (counting this one) for this site. Feel free to comment and pass around.)
I can’t remember how it was that I managed to pick him up that day, but the teacher couldn’t wait to tell me. Or maybe she told me at some future time when I took him in in the morning or for a conference. She started with a: “You’ll never guess what your son said….” Since he said a lot of stuff & it wasn’t all socially appropriate (blamed that on his father, heh), I held my breath until she told the story, when I exhaled & laughed.
Very cool to listen to tunes while exercising. I do that myself. Did you get the E?
http://www.sunshinestatenews.com/story/poll-points-second-coming-charlie-crist
BT Rubio is polling much less than 50% in his home state and this is july polling not polling after SS and Medicare cuts passed which given the number of retired people in Florida some with younger brothers and sisters who are not yet retired but want to retire soon I don’t think Rubio has a shot at VP anymore than Gov Walker or Rep Ryan.
There was an editorial on Fox about abolishing the National Weather Service. That’s “wing-nutty.” This? At the very least it’s a sarcastic comment about stating the obvious. At most, it’s a flippant remark alluding to Katrina. Kind of making a mountain out of molehill, here.
You want to hear something heart-rending by Shostakovich, listen to the 10th string quartet. He composed it in the Brezhnev period shortly before he died. The hopelessness will tear you apart.
Increased development changes flood plains (e.g. 400 year flood plains convert to 100 year flood plains), flash floods increase as the path of surface water back to water tables and aquifers is blocked. So, drowning risks increase. The last *record* development activity was the building boom of the 2000s (note that natural water runoff paths and sinkholes to rivers were covered over and built on) which flipped to the fraud_closure bust. The bankstas called “insurance companies” know this stuff (see “National Flood Insurance Program).
I’ll put it on my list. Thanks much.
Here’s one of the movements.
I admit to liking Shostakovich’s earlier more romantic works better. I’m particularly impressed by his ability to write exactly what Stalin wanted, paeans to USSR, while making it sound beautiful, like Song of the Forest.
Good stuff…
The media says Rubio’s poll numbers are good but I remember not to long ago when ANY incumbent politician polling below 50% approval was considered weak.
Now Obama and the entire GOP can’t get 50% approval.
We can no longer effectively assess who the most popular politicians are, we can only assess the least unpopular. So long as Rubio serves the megacorporations and their media mouthpieces, he is guaranteed “good” numbers.
Bev, that was shitlist, not a shot at FDL, but a statement that Christie and Bloomberg are both on a list of people that firedogs don’t like. Lighten up, Francis.
Actually, in upstate NY, 8 miles from West Point, I still have 2 1/2 feet of water in my basement, down from 4 1/2. My water heater is probably water-logged and my furnace is gonna need cleaning. A tree came down and the 6 feet of running water surrounding me and my neighbors from the mountain run-off and the brook overrun has moved it about 40 yards towards the road. My neighbor’s shed, the side of a small cabin was moved from the yard 60 yards to the road where it is blocking 1/4 of the road.
This isn’t a big deal for me or the neighbors.
Is this the same Amanda Carpenter who is a “conservative columnist”?
It will really be nice to stand at the harbor as these clowns, en masse, sail off into the sunset on their pee-party garbage barge decorated with “Mission Accomplished” banners and 13-star American flags flying from every corner.
Ahhh… the stench is gone….forever.
the very same