Out in the Asteroid Belt there are a lot of rocks, obviously. There are two bodies out there that are truly large compared to all the rest. Ceres is considered a dwarf planet, and the other, Vesta, is the largest asteroid known in the Solar System. It makes up about about 9% of the total mass of the Asteroid Belt, and was big enough to be observed from Earth 200 years ago by Heinrich Olbers.
All that is pretty groovy stuff, but in June the Dawn probe from NASA decelerated into orbit around the mini-planet. Since then we have been getting more and more images. The picture above is one such. It is three large craters that overlap just enough to make them look like a snowman.
Now it would be awesome enough for the Dawn probe to just go to Vesta, after all we have not visited too many asteroids and none in the actual asteroid belt before; but this mission is a twofer, once a year of science has been done at Vesta, Dawn will move on to the other big object in the Asteroid Belt, Ceres.
It will take another three years before Dawn arrives at Ceres, but given the opportunity to examine two very different proto-planets, it is worth the wait. You see Ceres is thought to have a thin, but permanent atmosphere, which makes it unique among the small planetoids. It is significantly smaller than our moon so this poses some interesting questions as to what it is made of and where it is from. But probably most importantly, how does a body this small hang on to an atmosphere at all?
Vesta, on the other hand, is believed to have had a molten metal core like the Earth has, and Mars probably did at early points in its history. This is important because it could tell us a lot about how such dynamos are formed and what it looks like as they slow and stop. Just in case you were wondering why that is important, the spinning of the Earth’s metal core generates the magnetic fields that protect us from the fast moving particles of the solar wind from our local star. Some day the dynamo will run down and things will get quite challenging for anything living on our planet.
What makes this mission possible is the ion drive of the Dawn probe. Basically it uses electricity to produce ionized xenon and it can do it for very long periods of time. It is good that it can operate over long periods because it does not provide a lot of push. The thing is, in free fall a little push over a long time can really get you going pretty fast. Since it is electric in nature you can power with giant solar collectors. Even at the farthest distance this mission will travel, it can still produce 1kW. More than enough for it to motor around the Asteroid Belt.
The Dawn probe carries four science instruments: a high resolution framing camera; a visible light and infrared spectrometer; a gamma ray and neutron spectrometer (this will measure isotopes in the crust of both planetoids); and a gravity science instrument that will allow a very accurate mapping of the gravitational field of each body.
Just like all our Solar System explorations, we are likely to learn things we never thought about, prove things that everyone knows, and generate a raft of questions that will only be answered by further exploration.
So watch this space for the next year, Space Cadets! There are going to be tons of pictures and video and I will be your one-stop-shop for it all!
The floor is yours!




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Bill!
Science! Everybody knows science is just a liberal plot to turn us all into godless gay communists.
This is awesome. I am not up to science tonite and more into mystery. It is a mystery how so diverse in composition and geological history all these planets and bits of planets are. Logic tells me if they were blown out all in the same big explosion they must represent the diversity of the thing that blew up. Like a building — some glass, bunches of pages of paper, chunks of steel etc. It is a mystery but I do wonder if someones may someday be able to reverse engineer the universe?
Damn straight!
And speaking of science denial, how was Almost-Glacier-Free National Park?
It is?
I hadn’t heard, will plastic sheeting and duct tape suffice to protect us or should we go spend money at the mall, as well.
I just knew that Einstein chap wasn’t to be trusted, and that Darwin guy.
Good heavens! I just realized that your first name is “Dr” … aren’t you one of them?
Can’t trust anybody, these daze/sssssssssssssssss
;~DW
Egad!!!
Another “Dr” … a conspiracy!!!
And … and aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!! you call YOURSELF “EVIL ….”
They’re everywhere! Run for the Hillssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
SNARKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!
Gee, I feel better now.
;~DW
My favorite moment in history was when Pete Conrad shot his Gemini capsule up into high earth orbit, looked down and called out “The Earth is Round!” We all knew it. He and his partner ( I forgot who) were the first men to see it.
Thanks, Bill, I look forward to further episode. Cosmology offers a fascinating and soothing antidote to the nonsense in our immediate vicinity. Jane and friends are in jail tonight for trying to keep the gummint from permitting the awl bidness to shit in our oatmeal.
Good. How about a beer and some Haldol? :-)
I camped up here, fished here, and hiked here (where I saw the remnants of Salamander and Grinnel Glaciers in the distance). Also did a super close up with this gentleman as he sauntered by (shot from about 4 feet away) and had a close encounter of the ursine kind with this fellow (shot from about 20 yards). Nothing to write home about. 8-)
You just watch them sceintist are gonna zap this asteroid and then all heck and damnation are gonna rain down on earth and it’s prolly all done with mirrors out in Holywood anyhew.
I got fingers, I can count, don’t try no funny business, any of you.
You scientologists are all alike, bet you gort pointy heads and everthangn doncha?
Look, I got a penny right here, says “In Gawd We Truss” onit, I’m gonna hold it up and count ta three and y’all better begone er else/sssssssssssss
;~DW
No fear from us scientists. There are more of them than there are of us. They will kill the planet and send you all to Jesus first.
Superb photos, DrDick.
A part of the world I hope to see.
Just spent last week in the glens around Ithaca NY, but ’twas nothing like what you’ve feasted your lucky eyes upon.
Thank you, for sharing.
DW
Sorry to drop out early, but it’s been a perfectly rotten evening here and I’m going to escape to a cozy bed. Peace out, y’all!
bill! i’ve been a space cadet since i was a kid in the 60′s. thanks for this exciting news about the dawn probe
I’d rather hang out with youse guys, if ya don’t mind, TS.
Better company all around.
DW
‘Nite, EDP, sleep well.
DW
Gotta love the pics from Vesta.
Let’s enjoy the mystery and the beauty. Sounds like most folks have been sucking on a pickle. (me too most of the time) Beauty like Dr.Ds pics are a good antidote.
Truly so, TS, a bit of genuine awe is most appropriate.
And I suggest that we laugh at the greedy elite as that quite befuddles their sense of certain superiority.
Doing the rest of us a world of good, in the process.
DW
Night. Wake to a brighter morn.
Think I will toddle off as well. Had a five hour drive back home from Glacier today and I am beat. Take care all.
Reply to DWBartoo August 20th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
Remember James Watt? He was the Secretary of the Interior under Ron Raygun.
At the time there was concern about the ozone layer disappearing. The potential problem was that the ozone layer also protects us from “A” and “B” ultraviolet light. Too much UV and we get skin cancer and causes massive mutations in DNA.
Well, to make a short story even longer, Watt said basically, “So what, we’ll give all the people hats and all the lizzards sun glasses.” What an ass he was.
I thought the jury was still out on Vesta’s status, at least until it can be determined if it has reached hydrostatic equilibrium, minus that enormous impact basin of course? Either way, look at this wonderful movie of it’s rotation.
He stood out because there weren’t that many idiots in government. Now the current crop makes him look like Muir.
My bedtime too. Talk to you all later.
Great video. I think I see dune buggy tracks around the equator.
Nite.
Here’s a quotation from a well known astronomer from the 17th century. Who said this?
I’ll post the answer in about an hour…
“Comets are formed by the ascending from earth, of human sins and wickedness, formed into a kind of gas, and ignited by the anger of God. This poisoness stuff falls down again on peoples heads, and causes all kinds of mischief, such as pestilence, Frenchmen, sudden death and bad weather.”
“James Watt? He was the Secretary of the Interior under Ron Raygun.”
___
He also was the cat who argued to Congress against environmental protection regulation on the grounds protecting natural resources was unimportant in light of the imminent return of Jesus Christ. “God gave us these things to use. After the last tree is felled, Christ will come back.”
yawn. yeah, yeah. sure, sure.
Look, God made it 6,000 years ago. OK? End of story. Rick Perry said so, so it must be true.
Thank you, Margaret. Amazing and simply (and complexly) awe-inspiring.
DW
night, doc.
weren’t you going to Chase, today?
Truly so, there are few perfect things, waynec, but Watt was a perfect example of one of those things.
And, TS lays down the “evolution” of the spread of such “perfection”.
DW
Sleep well, DrDick.
Reply to vegasboomer August 20th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
Watt also suggested inviting all the photographers to the Grand Canyon to take pictrures, then dam it to make electricity…
BTW, Bill, always appreciate your heavenly posts, the pictures and the serious and informative commentary, your own and what your posts always elicit.
Just so ya know.
DW
When I was a kid we walked on the moon. I thought the future was going to be filled with flying cars and spaceships.
Now I view humanity with a jaundiced eye. Yet, when I look at pictures like this, I am amazed we’ve come this far.
We have become able to understand “how” many things “work”, Firedo Glake, but we are likely several thousand years from a genuine grasp of “why” they “work” or appear to “work” as they do.
It is my hope, when not despairing at the apparent rising tide of ignorance, that our species may have the wit and wisdom to, someday, find out.
DW
Fantastic picture! I didn’t know that Ceres had an atmosphere. That’s really interesting. It could be the result of Ceres being relatively far away from the Sun. The molecules in the atmosphere would have considerably lower energy than on Earth and would be easier for a low-gravity object to prevent from escaping.
Which raises the question of “where” the atmosphere came from?
Presumably, it arose from the planetoid, itself?
And yet, it also “stuck” around and does not dissapate or is “renewed” on a regular basis, some “how”?
Great speculation, vagreen, BTW.
DW
The quote at 26 is atributed to….
Tycho Brahe
First let me say quite clearly, I DO NOT KNOW.
I am not an expert in the field. NOT!!!
Nor have I had any experience, professional or otherwise in the field.
So basically my ideas ARE CONJECTURE (AT BEST).
Now that the appropriate disclaimer has been done,
“The molecules in the atmosphere would have considerably lower energy than on Earth and would be easier for a low-gravity object to prevent from escaping.”
Is that even remotely correct? The molecules have lower “energy”??? WTF?
Than on earth? WTF? Easier for a low-gravity object to prevent from escaping???
Listen bearing the above disclaimer in mind, and based on my scientific foundation/background, is that reasonable/logical?
Could the effects truly be that profound? Significantly so?
Based on my limited knowledge of said issue, I would say no way.
But is it possible? Is there some foundation of knowledge that I am ignorant of, that you are working from in this analysis?
No insult meant. Just curious. If conjecture on your part, please state so. Scientists should be comfortable stating such theories (possibly possible, if that makes any sense, should to a science person) as such and the source of said issue.
Because if it’s true, and you are basing this on previous understanding/knowledge, do you have any idea how phenomenal that would be? One of the possibilities is that the farther an object is from the “main” gravitational force in the galaxy, ie. the sun, then the more likely it would be to convert to a human-supporting planet. Ie. Mars would be better than Venus. Yes yes, I know Venus is thoroughly uninhabitable, but the same logic could be applied to Mars versus Neptune.
Thanks DW!
Objects that are further from the Sun receive less solar energy and the molecules in their atmosphere would tend to be less energetic as a result. Lower-gravity objects have a lower escape velocity, and it is easier for molecules to escape from the atmosphere than on higher-gravity objects. If a lower-gravity object is further from the Sun, the molecules in atmosphere would be less likely to escape, all other things equal.
But this is one of numerous factors at work. Jupiter is further from the Sun than Ceres and has moons that are much larger, but these moons have no atmosphere worthy of discussion.
My knowledge of astronomy is still pretty basic. Just my best guess based on what I’ve read in various articles and books.
Astronomers believe that there is a fairly narrow zone around a star in which life as we know it can exist on the surface of a planet. If an object is too far away from the Sun, it does not receive enough solar energy to keep the water and even the carbon dioxide in its atmosphere from freezing. Titan, which is Saturn’s largest moon, has an atmosphere that is actually denser than Earth’s is. However, Titan is so far away from the Sun that the lakes we found on its surface are a mixture of liquid methane and ethane. The surface temperature is 290 below!
However, it is possible for life as we know it to exist beneath the surface of a moon or planet that is far away from the Sun. Europa, which is one of Jupiter’s largest moons, is believed to have a layer of liquid water beneath its frozen surface. The water is supposedly kept liquid by internal heating and tidal forces from Jupiter’s very strong gravity.
The foundation of life on Earth is autotrophic organisms, which are archea, bacteria, plants, and a few protists capable of making their own food. Other life is heterotrophic and depends on consuming autotrophic life for survival. Autotrophic organisms can be either photosynethetic (obtaining their energy from the Sun) or chemosynthetic (obtaining their energy from chemical reactions). The photosynthetic option would not be available in a subsurface environment like Europa’s ocean, so life would have to be based on chemosynthesis, sort of like the bacteria we find inside deep sea tube worms near hydrothermal vents.