He has actually included that same spiel in his latest campaign YouTube – in case you’ve forgotten it, here it is again:
Businesses are comprised of people. I’m talking about repair shops, and gas stations, and beauty salons, and restaurants. I’m talking about Apple computer, and Facebook, and Microsoft. I’m talking about businesses that employ people. It’s really astonishing to me that the Obama folks would try and argue that businesses aren’t people. What do they think they are? Little men from Mars? But when they tax business, they tax people.
By this same logic, I would like to declare myself a single-celled organism, and therefore exempt from all taxes. Or better yet, I would like to declare myself a molecule, and therefore exempt from death as well.
Just because businesses are made of people, doesn’t mean they are people. And sometimes they even treat their component people pretty shabbily, like Romney’s very own corporate person did. So if you’re going to try to drum up sympathy for corporations by pointing out all the people they employ, you might want to cut out the middleman and show some sympathy for those people directly, by protecting their Social Security and Medicare, or their unemployment insurance, or their right to use unions and lawsuits to defend themselves against abusive employers.
Trying to claim that being pro-corporation is the same as being pro-people is just incredibly dishonest, and the more Mitt repeats this line, the more flesh-and-blood people he’s going to alienate.
On the other hand, if he continues to emphasize unemployment and Obama’s cluelessness about the economy, that message is going to resonate. Of course, the main reason Obama sucks so badly on the economy is that he mostly agrees with the Republicans, but as long as they keep calling him a socialist no one will notice.



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ELI
Don’t worry about old Milt, right wing trolls will soon be repeating the new mantra, “Corporations are people, they’re made up of people, they create jobs for people!”
SADLY
Eli!
Nothing like turning a gaffe into an even bigger gaffe.
WHY DO YOU LIBERALS ALL HATE PEOPLE OMG
Margaret!
Yeah, he’s totally convinced himself that that was some kind of brilliant jiu-jitsu save.
ELI! Makes me think of what Ann Richards said about Poppy Bush – born with a silver foot in his mouth.
TWAIN! Romney makes Poppy look smooth.
ELI!
BUZZ!
eli
Oh, thank gawd you’re here. The things in my house who think they are people and dogs are bugging the crap out of me. Just sent them out for a walk. (I didn’t say forever – just please give me 10 minutes of silence, thank you.)
demi
Are any of them actual people, or do you have some corporations living with you?
Corporations are people. But can a corporation be one person? Yes! A one person corporation donated ONE MILLION DOLLARS to Mittens. One person can be a money laundering corporation.
if they’re corporate people, you could always dissolve them.
and
Hey Eli!
If corporations were people then wouldn’t they have to pay taxes?
ELI!
Bain Capital, Bane Capital, come on, what’s the difference among corporate persons, aside from the whole poison thing? Surely Willard knows from rat poison…
Mittens is so obtuse,he doesnt realize,people are gonna want those corporate perks like never paying any taxes…how will he support a Mittens government?
that would late-term corporate abortion, tho.
hmmm, gotta be a way to piss off the fundies with the idea that corporate people can be ended after conception.
Most one-month-old people are not really inclined to make million-dollar campaign donations, nor to voluntarily dissolve themselves 3 months later…
see my 17
LMAO! Right? Sorry Ricky! That wasn’t a Ninja like move, just a shoulder roll under your own bus!
Hey jayt!
KELLY!
Mitt is exactly right. Consider that corporate profits flow eventually to stockholders in the form of dividends, and capital gains also go to the benefit of stockholders. So anything that reduces net income directly lowers the return to those stockholder.
So, Eli (Eli!!!!) who do you think those stockholders are! They are individuals like you and me who own those stocks in our 401ks, own mutual funds that own those stocks, and/or have our pension funds invested in the stocks of those companies. So when corporate taxes go up, the returns to US go down.
The alternative way that higher taxes impact us is through higher prices. You don’t think that companies won’t pass on higher taxes in the form of higher prices? Get real.
You may not like the way Mitt phrased his comments, but he is exactly right.
Mittens World,no taxes,no military,no roads or bridges,and no ponies
If corporations are people then why do we bail them out but when we need jobs they sit on $2 trillion in cash?
Why do we get our SS and Medicare cut as BOA uses bailout money to bribe/lobby politicians?
“Corporate personhood” is a long-recognized “legal fiction” just like the day before your 18th birthday you have no “free will” and therefore cannot give “consent.”
In this context, the “corporate persons” are in reality those actual biological persons who control the corporations. In effect, those actual people each get counted twice (or more should they control more than one corporate “person”). So much for one-person,-one-vote.
“You may not like the way Mitt phrased his comments, but he is
exactlylimitedly right.”Husband,Inc., Sonny and Sons, and Doggie, Bisquit, and Fleas.
And of course, whenever corporate profits increase, they *always* share that windfall with all the people who comprise them, not just the elite few at the top.
So, will corporations have to show photo IDs on election day?
Romney doesn’t care if *you* think corporations aren’t people. He only cares that the *uninformed* see that some guy in a position of public responsibility thinks it’s a valid argument.
Because very, very soon, this opinion will be put to the test to an even greater degree than has happened already.
Really, however, the video is a dial-back to a strawman. No one is saying that businesses aren’t comprised of people, despite Romney’s lie that they are.
It’s very simple: While corporations are run by people, they come into being through an act of the state. The state can also disband corporations. Is this Mitt Romney’s vision of humanity? That human beings can be created and destroyed by the state?
well looking at GE and most of the large companies in the last 5 years their charts look like poop
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=GE&t=5y&l=on&z=l&q=l&c=
not much trickle down
bingo,i just made that point,between platinum parachutes,corporate jets,payoffs to politicians …AINT MUCH pickins left
Yeah. LOL.
Again, the point must be hammered to the unreflective that corporate “persons” are simply the ACTUAL persons who control them (in terms of political and economic participation).
Don’t fall for the red herring. Mitt may be “right,” but irrelevantly so.
heres another
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=5y&s=GE&l=on&z=l&q=l&c=msft
Hey, I thought for sure I’d be out before I saw any responses to Happy…just missed it….But to note….Your hubby, son, and puppy likely have some time limited existence…not perpetuity….just a thought..
Hey Eli, glad you could stop in; you brighten the environs….Later, “folks”…that makes me feel like a Pres. when I talk to you “folks”….
So they’re really more like giant Gundam battle robots…
Hey, RevBev, good to see you too.
Indeed.
Me, I’m more worried about The Looming Spectre of The Soviet Menace.
“I can totally see the Soviet Union from Minnesota!”
Well, let’s put you on Goldman Sachs Compensation Committee.
Because for example I would LOVE to have the earnings per share for GS be far larger than they are if Blankfein and the Fund Managers et. al. billions in compensation were actually in the stock price.
But they aren’t. And you know that.
ELI!
Maybe Mitt can explain why the people don’t get operating subsidies and tax loop holes like the Corpsters do. If we are equal n-all that.
I’d sure like to recap about 30 years of operating subsidies. Heck, I’d just like to recap the money from my 401K the banksters and corpsters are raiding.
Hello Eli!
I think the GOP is madly casting about for a nominee they can run, who will lose, so that the Establishment Republican candidate can continue his good works for his Establishment Republican base. Just because he’s running on the D line is no reason for business to overlook how good Obama’s been to them.
If, as Romney says, corporations are people (not in my book), then when are the criminal ones (including GS and many big banks) going to take a perp walk and be thrown into jail where they belong? Huh?
PEASANTPARTY!
Some “people” are definitely more equal than others. Although I suppose it could just be because they have tons of money rather than because they’re not flesh and blood.
Hello Teddy!
I was tempted to do a post on the excellent Latino outreach that Obama has been doing on behalf of the GOP.
Now it’s a party! With Peasants!
Yes, he’s right, in a Boris Karloff kind of way.
O is perfectly (empty) suited…carry on
I’ve been a stock holder for many, many years. I’ve invested personally and via group 401K. I’ll tell you right now that 1/60th of a dollar in dividends is junk. THe damn postage to send the quarterly statements costs more than they pay regular stock holders in earnings.
The real dividends go to big block buyers that can purchase preferred shares, then again, the inside trading is abundant with them all.
LOL… Great Minds Think Alike.
I just updated my photoshop
http://www.bgladd.com/DrBachmann.jpg
They’re only people in ways that are beneficial to them. Being artificial, I guess they get to pick and choose.
They do “early” voting.
Spot on. The one announced candidate, (I guess we may include Huntsman at some point), who has any chance at all winning the general hasn’t got a snowball’s chance in Hell at winning the primary and that was before the baggers took over the GOP. Now his chances are even less.
Woo-Hoo! Huzzah!
I’m thinking of trying to get a patent. LOL Yeah, I want to patent a glow in the dark pitchfork!
You got it.
I think you’re misunderestimating the distance.
In other words, the only shareholders who might notice a difference to themselves personally are the same people who are at the helm of the giant corporation-manbeasts.
What a great idea! We could dispense with the torches altogether!
well yes,but the libertarians and goopers want you to have at least some crumbs of the pie,if ya cant own a piece of it,as the saying goes
I’m thinking about incorporating myself.
And, changing my legal name to “Authorized Personnel.”
U-turns on the interstate and all that…
You so smart!
Wheredcha learn all that from?
Oh yeah. They want your 50 bucks a month as investment. They use it and abuse and then Poof! Your stock just went down to worthless!
that was comedy gold ,from President John Birch Society,ya know the Kocks loved Stalin and the reds,thats where they made big $$$$$
Hey, maybe when Jane works up her new Firebagger logo I can get her to add the pitchforks and peasants on the back.
Thanks.
I live to serve.
Here’s another:
http://www.bgladd.com/PerrySuperPAC.jpg
Carry a torch to illuminate the pitchfork. That’s what ALL the peasants do.
The Hive of course.
beeen there done that,i have lost a a gigantic amt of money hundreds of thous….and learned my lesson the very hard way…they dont play nice,and mediation is also rigged…EFF them all
http://firebaggers.blogspot.com/
Go for it.
LOL. First time I’ve laughed today. Thank you vb.
hahahhahahahahahahaha
Rim Shot!
Where are my manners?
Eli! and all!
The fund managers and others at GS are comped on performance these days, Kel. And 68% of the company is owned by institutions, not insiders. But You knew that!
GW!
i just really wish i would have bought 100 shares of AAPL in Jan of 2009
oh well
they pump and dump,but you knew that
Look at this picture. Now look at Eli’s at the top. Coincidence? I. Think. Not.
Nah. I had one once and Attaturk was the only person that would comment.
I’d rather be here anyway. Peasants do better when they are in hoardes you know.
like alka-seltzer
Oh, man. Who owns the institutions?
Goldman sure has done a lot to enhance Americans’ prosperity over the past few years, I hate to think what might have happened if someone had tried to cramp their style.
I sent them out for 10 minutes!
Performance? LOL!
*HowfastcanwebackuptotheFedandsuckajilliondollarsouttait*
Performance. Riiiiight.
And “Institutions” not individuals receiving the benfit. I knew that you knew that.
and they LOVE their customers too
http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2010/04/financial-crisis_inquiry
let us not forget,it is Gawds work
dawG! Even the logo on the splash page of the video looks like the work of the same bunch that did Oblahblah’s. Maybe we really could reduce it to a BitCoin like implementation of the function of Congress and the POTUS given that they admit to really being a figurehead + Super Congress and that most of them within that Rube Goldberg machine-like exterior masquerading as a Congress are really NO OPs.
What if we could send out the corporations for as long as we liked? Two years might just be enough to get us back to some semblance of democracy.
‘I’ll run the country like a business. Because the country is people and businesses are people, too.” Wait for it. Or am I already too late?
I hear that Bank of America loves their customers so much that they put all deposits on hold and won’t cash checks if they happen to be one cent larger than your checking balance. What a crock!
My sister got a check from my mother to help her out. The damn bank wouldn’t cash it, deposit it without a hold, or anything else to help her with it immediately. THe really bad part is mother’s check was from her BOA account! Poor Mom, got so upset she closed up 40 grand checking account.
ROTFL!
Yeah, widgets in and widgets out. I bet he will use the LIFO inventory procedure. (Last in, First Out)
Little red men from Mars?
all these too big to fail,must be nationalized,they are supported and running on taxpayer money and have been for years
good,tomorrow i shall have a big fight,with Chase,and withdraw,whatever is left there…good on your mom
I think if your mom just explained the situation, BOA would understand and make an exception.
I hereby declare that my house is a “people.”
After all, it was MADE by people.
People live in it.
Therefore, it IS “people.”
I’ll declare it as a dependent on my income taxes.
(It costs more money to maintain than my children.)
Rightards should have no problem with that.
Typically, the liar hides behind the passive voice construction. Also, he gussies up his nonsense with two-dollar words he misuses. He wants to say ‘businesses are composed of people’ but that’s not impressive enough, plus he doesn’t know the correct use, or if he does, he realizes it’s also nonsense and underscores the absurdity: ‘businesses comprise people’.
Fight? With Chase? Tomorrow? Me too! I wish we were at the same branch so we could have a riot.
I won’t deal with banks. Period. All of my dealings with banks have been a nightmare since I was 18. My checkbook was stolen and checks were written to my “sister” but the thief misspelled both our of our names and though the bank restored my account, I wound up overdrawn immediately, (due to all of the bounced check fees), and the bank then charged me an overdrawn fee. And that was just my first experience. The short version is, if it’s your fault, it’s your problem. If it’s their fault or a thief’s fault, it’s still your problem. They suck but there are alternatives to banks for simple transactions.
Agreed! While they are busy swiping our pensions and 401K plans, paying nothing on savings…
Benito is putting SS and Medicare on the butcher block!
I guess they want everyone living in the streets.
No. She is 79 years old. That is all the money she has. She got so upset I thought she was going to have a stroke. She thought the bank was saying that her check was no good.
She could not believe that her own bank would not cash her check. She went all white and sweaty.
i traded stocks for 10 years,never took a penny out of the market,had a small inheritance,i started with 9k…i built it up to 350,000 and watched it dissapear from Wachovia,they really screwed me,and all my experts couldnt help me,cause BROKERS sit on the mediation boards….if you are not an insider,you cant win…im convinced
me too…will have to take my L theanine before so i dont stroke out…i hate electronic banking,
Why Chase? Chase is offering to lend (me) up to $5K at 0% interest for 12 mo. for a 1% service charge.
My ex wife is having a nightmare as we speak. bank fucked up. Checks bounced and an amzing amount of fees. Tuesday she was told not to worry about any of that happening. Banks suck it. Fuckers making the decisions about my money are barely older than my kids and don’t know shit.
oh dear its not worth it,take her to lunch one day,and help her put her money in a local community bank or credit union
Yep. I hate that, but they do it to everyone. Not just you.
I wish we could operate without those damn banks. Either that or start the people’s bank.
Really? Jeez. Horrible story. Certianly they should be ashamed of themselves but they have no shame. She did the right thing.
Just in time for DC in October.
Chase is just as bad, Aitch. They are one of the biggie foreclosure banks.
wachov1a get eaten by Wells Fartgo?
because i have 2 accts there,and they are supposed to roll over the $$..i overdrew 1100 before i realized it,3 VET visits etc…there wa 3100,$$ in the other acct…ample,but they hit me with 6 or 7 overdrafts…34$ each
Fuck Chase.
i think so
All. Banks. Suck. Just like a vampire, you know it’s gonna suck cause that’s just what they do.
yup evil
Ahhh–Men! Sista!
I don’t bank with Chase, it’s a Quicken credit card I haven’t used in a decade. I bank at BB&T. What do y’all think of them?
ima gonna play 11 dimensional chess with them,i think i know a painless way to get the 300 back
Ouch. I’m surprised your accts don’t include overdraft protection (which charge interest upon triggering).
Run for office as a Republican?
They are okay, as far as banks go. Just don’t let them give you no junk. I know there are some credit unions in your area if you decide to change though.
See Margaret @116.
In case you need a refresher:
More here
Smoke and mirrors and down right FRAUD and our courts won’t even discuss it!1 ASSHOLES!!!
Just don’t hire Obama to play it for you. He’s really shitty at it.
if ya like the Kocks
http://saintpetersblog.com/2011/05/%E2%80%98tea-party%E2%80%99-bank-bbt-flying-under-the-radar-in-fsu-scandal/
Thanks
they do,i just,need the energy to be routed to bangalore and the phillipines to explain the shiiite….but if i offer more money a CD or sumptin,they might play nice,we will see
The Supremes need to be run out by hoardes of angry peasants with pitchforks! They know what they have done is unconstitutional. There was some cries for impeachment, but they got drowned out by the deficit that was going to eat us alive.
they look teh bad
Glowing pitchforks!
Mutual funds and pension funds. You, in other words.
OY! I didn’t know that. Thanks for pulling it up.
i like this better
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-h8j0dSAM6G8/TaMmO52IcEI/AAAAAAAAJ4w/9oIZTQ6fmqk/s1600/tar_and_feather.jpg
Yeah, and they are stealing all that too!
A mutual fund is nothing more than a collection of regular company stocks. The people running those are the same bankstas. It’s a huge circle jerk of the exact same jerk offs!
BB&T
A Southeastern regional bank, BB&T, sometimes partners with Koch in these efforts. They also are identified for working closely with the tea party movement.
Credit unions have more free services and lower fees. I’ve had an account with one for thirty years. On the occasions that I have needed a teller there have never been more than two people in line ahead of me. The members get to elect the officers.
pump and dump,with huge fees
Soylent Green is people, too. (Probably the worst movie I’ve ever seen!)
Churning (stock trade)From Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJump to: navigation, search
Churning is the practice of executing trades for an investment account by a salesman or broker in order to generate commission from the account. It is a breach of securities law in many jurisdictions, and it is generally actionable by the account holder for the return of the commissions paid, and any losses occasioned by the broker’s choice of stocks.
Courts generally look at the turnover of an investment account, or the number of times the investment capital has been re-invested during a year. For example, for an actively traded mutual fund, the entire assets of the fund will be involved in buying and selling transactions once every six to twenty-four months. In churning cases, the entire assets of the investor are often traded once a month, or even more frequently. As a commission is paid on each trade, commissions can substantially destroy the value of an investment account in a very short period of time.
Oh Boy! Here’s one goodie. BOA is going to help Perry.
http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/08/open-mic-catches-bank-of-america-official-vowing-to-help-perry/
You have no idea how much I wanted to title this “Soylent Corporations II”, but after the fiasco where no one knew what “Bizarro Kerry” meant…
The Romneys, Bachmanns, Huckabees and Perrys get out the reactionary memes and drive the political landscape to the far right, while the Obamas, by appearing to be to the left of these folks and therefore reasonable candidates, push forward the business policies of the status quo right. Political opinions and options are manufactured, the television tells citizens who to vote for, and those with concentrated money and power increase their advantage. Romney is just doing his job. He’s not clueless.
There you go! Get them on the churning.
See Margaret @ 116
Also, I tried to get through Soylent Green once, what with it being an iconic sci-fi classic and all. Couldn’t do it.
Carry your FDL tote and wear the tee. They’ll do anything you say.
you live in Charlotte?
Make Room! Make Room! by Harry Harrison was not a bad book though… (this is the book that Soylent Green was very loosely based on.)
they asked me to do a CD,think i will,and then…………
That’s pretty shocking. You’d think bankers and their employees were DFH’s.
He is close to me. Yep.
i hired lawyers,accts with legal training,university experts,you sign a paper that mediation is final
forensic accts?
we should have a meet-up.wine tasting…..g
i brought some wine from France
Yes. Since ’03. Came from Pgh. Retired from there, came here so our (my sister & moi) ailing, aged, widowed mother would move here from SoFla bc she could no longer live ‘alone’. She had refused to move to Charlotte “and be a burden on her daughter” (and grand-daughter), but it was okay to be a burden on her son hahaha.
You should go back and demand a re-hear. They do try to force you into mediation and have that right because corporations have been handed that easy out. However, you can and have the right to refuse mediation in favor of trial by jury.
That is a great idea! I’d love to meet up. Aitch is in the big mall area and I am across the Buster Boyd.
if i could find info that it was endemic,it would be a good case
your about 2 hrs away mebbe we could meet 1/2 way..i supply the wine……..G
aha one way contracts are void
in securities law,FIDUCIARY responsibility is a bit important dip shit
you are a gootah as the Germans say
We should. You didn’t also happen to bring back any Gauloises or Old Holborn, did you? (I quit bc I couldn’t get good tabac here anymore.)
Two Hours! Where are you?
the troll is back…..water is wet,goopers are batshit
in TN
That is true fact! Besides, you were misrepresented and should have due process.
well i wouldnt like to contribute to the delinquency of a major,but i did bring chocolate
Oh! Okay. Now I understand the hours. When the weather starts cooling down a picknic on the parkway would be great.
honey i took the series 7 test…brokers today are out of control
HELL the SEC is shredding documents
its all corrupt
I have long maintained that only people pay taxes. And so corporations should not be taxed. I still hold that position. But the Supreme Court says that the Constitution says that Corporations ARE people. So they should be taxed like individuals.
I don’t think Providence & Fairview/Sardis is in the big mall area, but I’ll defer to your better judgment.
we can meet in some small town,i know a place that is an orchard,you pick apples,peaches blue,and black berries…devine
Belgique?
there is that
Wouldn’t Asheville be about halfways?
Francais,my fave is Swiss however
Holy smokes. Excellent catch.
yah,great town…love it
Good for you! I studied the handbooks, but never took the test. I switched over to the Paralegal study. I know enough about lots of things to be dangerous. (huge smiles)
My dentist is from TN, beautiful speech, her parents are Yankees from the Pgh area.
Holy Smokes and ROTTEN MELONS!
Yeah, it is a real stinker.
I still boycott Nestle and always will.
Ashville is beautiful. Sadly are you close to Johnson City?
Pretty darned brazen I’d say.
My French friends preferred Belgique. I didn’t think to ask my Swiss friend, though she’s an expat American for 50 years.
they are evil
I want to see Mandy Barnett in ‘Always … Patsy Cline’ at The Ryman.
not too far
Definitely!
I’m happy that Zerohedge caught it. On film! Can’t walk that one back.
Ah! Patsy.
“I went walking, after midnight…”
They nearly bought Hershey’s but Hershey’s walked away. (Pre-NAFTA, Hershey’s Kisses were made in Mexico.)
i have very good friends in Suisse,used to go there a lot in the summer,Ascona on La go Maggiore,i miss it…but Swiss Francs are through the roof
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRNdap-ioNM&playnext=1&list=PL4AA6EF146DDBB8B0
kisses aremade in Mexico
well Mexico is the madre of chocolate
Mandy’s as good as Patsy (really). Madeleine Peyroux does Walking After Midnight like Billie H. would do it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoFAZSrbu3Y
well mebbe time for brother Morpheus,sweet dreams puppers
Chase tomorrow
I love her Winchester ‘stoled’. Her cover is maybe the best. But I first heard Patti Page (The Rage) and Mary Ford sing it. Norah’s is pretty good. But only Patsy sings ‘stoled’…
Best o’ luck!
Nite, Sadley.
Yes, Aitch. They are all awesome. The Patsy was really singing her heart. Poor thing, she had some terrible man troubles.
Madeleine
I’m off as well. THe late, late show is on up above. Doncha, forget about me if very appropriate to sing to congress critters.
Thank you, AitchD. I logged in to make that very point. For some reason, people who use “comprise” for “compose” are always trying to impress someone with how well-educated they are, and of course they always fail to impress. Mittens is no exception.
If there’s 9 percent unemployment, R’s could run a murderer and win.
My Republican friend Mitt says corporations are people. My Republican friends also tell me we have inalienable rights- life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. These rights were given to men by God not Government and therefore cannot be taken by GovernmentThe founding fathers who my Republican friends mention every other sentence thought this to be so important they put these God given rights in the Constitution which my Republican friend like to quote alot also.
Now my Republican friends are telling me Republican Justus’s Roberts, Alito, Scalia, Thomas, and Kennedy have the same power as God and can give these rights to corporations. Corporations a word I can find nowhere in the Constitution.
and of course what the moron romney doesn’t say (or know) is that the employees of a corporation aren’t taxed when corporations are taxed – employees are paid out of the part of the corporate earnings that AREN’T taxed. Its the profits, the part left over after paying employees that gets taxed. And the level of compensation employees get is set by the market according to capitalist dogma; the level of corporate taxes having nothing to do with compensation to employees. Employee compensation is a cost of doing business.
“inalienable” Rights are not mentioned in the US Constitution; they’re in the Declaration of Independence – a very nice document, but not one having any authority of enforcement of anything. Its a statement to the King of England.
And there actually aren’t “inalienable” Rights in the Declaration of Independence either, they’re “unalienable” Rights. And there is a difference: unalienable rights can’t be given up even if the owner of the rights wanted to. Inalienable rights can’t be taken away, but can be surrendered by the owner of the rights.
but we understand your point with its technical flaws.
I have to hand it to you eli, I couldn’t come up with 7the correct method for framing this particular debate, you hit the nail on the head with “Or better yet, I would like to declare myself a molecule, and therefore exempt from death”
I will of course add my signature style when I am in discussion, I will proclaim “my car is a starter” “my car is a goodyear tire” “my mom is a foot”
good stuff, will have fun with it too, thanks for the post
Never forget this, that the biggest advantage gained is that they are the only “persons” on the planet who can honestly believe and proclaim that their “shit don’t stink,” despite the fact that untold millions of “fleshies” would also like to be in that position but can’t be.
BTW, I hereby claim credit for coining and adding the term “fleshies” to the lexicon, and predict it will be of great and widespread use in our dwindling future history. Although I now own it, I give y’all complete license to use it for any good purpose. De nada. The pleasure of being a cunning linguist is its own reward.
In the US we execute people when they kill other people. When has a corporation been executed for killing people?
The Army is also made of people – however, in a time of a decade long war, none of the Army is composed of Romney or any of his five adult sons.
“My sons are adults. They’ve chosen not to serve in the military in active duty and I respect their decision in that regard. … And one of the ways my sons are showing support for our nation is helping me get elected because they think I’d be a great president”.
I think I have you beat, I boycotted Shell Oil back in the 80′s when they refused to divest in South Africa and I have never used a Shell gas station since. After a few years you don’t need to try to remember to avoid them anymore it just becomes second nature. I don’t even see Shell stations anymore when I am looking for gas.