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Stop back for FDL Book Salon, The Illusion of Free Markets, and Monday’s movie, Florent “Queen Of The Meat Market.”
This lovely video is from Edger’s diary, so go there to comment.
And now a word from our Scarecrow:
Interesting: no one from the nominal Republican leadership, and no one who can represent liberals/progressives, but there are several conservatives and Tea Zombies.
So the negotiations must be between the White House and the Tea-GOP Zombies, and the only nominal Dems we’re allowed to hear are those Pod people likely to be 100% loyal to the White House.
I guess the Democratic Party just disappeared last week. Do they care? Will anyone miss them?
Also missing: economists and public policy advocates who might say this is all nuts; budget experts and defenders of public programs that are being slashed every day in the House Committees while no one notices — defenders of the forgotten programs that get lumped together in the “$1.5 to $3 trillion or so in discretionary spending,” as though it were just some extra money you might have sitting around to go to the movies. Just one example: All climate research and regulation is being defunded, while most of the country is baking.
No one to represent the jobless, the homeless, the uninsured, the record number of children in poverty or any of the millions of America’s whose real crises are ignored by the most irresponsible Congress and White House in my lifetime. There are not enough rotten tomatoes . . .
And Teddy remarks, in Teddy style: “Oh, those pesky starving millions in the Horn of Africa. How dare they nudge into our Potomac drama? …with their dire prediction of what our future will look like.”
Hot enough for you?
Washington Journal: 7:45am – Jennifer Rubin (Wash. Post) & Jim Gerstein (Dem. Pollster) on Politics. 8:30am – J.J. Messner (Fund for Peace Senior Associate) on Failed States. 9:15am – Jon Jarvis (National Park Service Director) on State of Nat’l Parks.
ABC’s This Week: Debt Ceiling – Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner. Bipartisanship – Former Senate leaders Trent Lott (R-MS) and Tom Daschle (D-SD). Equal Marriage – Mayor Michael Bloomberg (I-NYC) and then some. Roundtable: George Will, Arianna Huffingtont, Charlie Gasparino, Alice Rivlin. Ends with ABC News correspondent Lama Hasan on the drought and famine in the Horn of Africa.
CBS’ Face the Nation: Debt Ceiling – White House Chief of Staff William Daley, Senate Democratic Whip Dick Durbin (D-IL), Senate Republican Whip Jon Kyl (R-AZ), and Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA), and Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-GA).
CNN’s State of the Union: Debt Ceiling – Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner. Then, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) and Rep. Tom Price (R-GA). Horse Race – Tim Pawlenty.
Chris Matthews: The Anatomy Of A 2012 Obama Reelection Plan. Can Obama Run On Hope And Still Look Credible?
Fareed Zakaria – GPS: Historian David McCullough. Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan with Anne-Marie Slaughter and Gideon Rose. And more.
Fox News Sunday: Debt Ceiling – Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner. Then, Tea-GOP freshmen Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) and Rep. Joe Walsh (R-IL). Roundtable: Brit Hume, A. B. Stoddard, Bill Kristol, Juan Williams.
NBC’s Meet the Press: Debt Ceiling – White House Chief of Staff William Daley. Sen.Tom Coburn (R- OK). Roundtable: Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE); Tea party freshman Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL); Mayor of Newark, Cory Booker (D); Doris Kearns Goodwin; Andrea Mitchell.
Newsmakers: Rep. John Larson (D-CT) told Newsmakers that he would prefer Congress “pass a clean debt ceiling” without any other proposal or policy measure attached. He blamed Republicans for “holding hostage the debt ceiling and the nation’s economy.” …
Q & A: Erik Larson, author of a new historical narrative detailing with the life of William E. Dodd when he became America’s first ambassador to Adolf Hitler’s Germany in Berlin during 1933. The story follows Dodd and his family, including daughter Martha, as they interact with Joseph Goebbels, Hermann Goring and other top level members of the Third Reich during the years leading up to World War II. …
60 Minutes: Resurrecting Eden – In Southern Iraq where many biblical scholars place the Garden of Eden, Scott Pelley finds a water world where the “Marsh Arabs” are making a comeback after Saddam nearly destroyed the “cradle of civilization.” Mitch Landrieu – The New Orleans mayor talks to Byron Pitts about the city he loves and his efforts to heal wounds it still suffers from corruption and Hurricane Katrina. The “Sharkman” – Anderson Cooper dives unprotected with great white sharks and the South African who’s spent more time up close with the ocean’s most feared predator than anyone else.
To The Contrary: Guest Host: Cokie Roberts. Topics: Should birth control should be free to women; Senators’ efforts to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act as New York becomes the largest state to legalize gay marriage; and Former Xerox CEO Anne Mulcahy’s transition from the corporate world to nonprofit work. Panelists: Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-DC); Genevieve Wood; Judge and Debra Carnahan; Nicole Kurokawa Neily.
Univision’s Al Punto: Oscar Alvarez, Minister of Public Security of Honduras; Sen. Charles Schumer, (D-NY); Santiago Creel, Former Interior Minister of Mexico and Presidential Hopeful (PAN); Janet Murguia, President and CEO, NCLR; and Isabel Allende, Chilean Novelist.
Virtually Speaking: Chicago Dyke and Jay Ackroyd consider developments of the week, highlighting issues neglected or misrepresented on the Sunday morning broadcasts of traditional media. 9pm ET.
FDL’s Book Salon: The Illusion of Free Markets: Punishment and the Myth of Natural Order. “It is widely believed today that the free market is the best mechanism ever invented to efficiently allocate resources in society. Just as fundamental as faith in the free market is the belief that government has a legitimate and competent role in policing and the punishment arena.” Chat with Bernard E. Harcourt about his new book. Hosted by George Grantham, 5pm ET.
FDL Movie Night Monday: Florent “Queen Of The Meat Market.”
With Director / Producer / Cinematographer David Sigal, Florent Morellet and Lisa Derrick. “Let Julianne Moore, Isaac Mizrahi, Michael Musto and other famous (and infamous) faces take you on a fantastic voyage to New York City’s legendary Florent diner.” 8pm ET.
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I’m curious. Does anyone care that all the money, the debt ceiling chokes off, has to be borrowed?
We are spending almost twice the national income. No worries about that here?
There’s concern about that here. People here are concerned that the only ways of going about it that are being discussed by the Very Serious People are both cruel and ineffective. For example, if you push Medicare to age 67, you save money on the government deficit – and you force the people would get Medicare to go out and spend on private, expensive, ineffective health insurance. If they can even buy it. Which they probably can’t. But if the problem is off the government ledger, no matter how many people die, it’s out of sight, out of mind I guess.
Around here, people want to end the stupid wars as is long overdue, scale back the military to something approaching a sane level of spending, and were opposed to extending the Bush tax cuts last December.
Just because those proposals aren’t treated seriously by most of the hopelessly corrupt and craven Congress and President doesn’t mean they’re not far more effective and have more popular support than anything being proposed.
No money ‘has to be borrowed’, it already has been. This is not about making commitments above and beyond those already made, this is about the country’s word of honor, or faith and credit. Without raising the credit ceiling, the country says ‘our fingers were crossed’, and raises the price of borrowing in the future, lowers the value of the dollar, and, incidentally, makes your credit card bills go up.
Edit; Tweety’s panel is being just as trivial, they’re tired of the debt ceiling, they want to remind us most viewers have no more intelligence or commitment than the Villagers, they want to hear about the price of gas.
Sunday talking heads nothing but a pile of shit as usually, but that was an amazing video, Thanks for posting that Elliot. I had to watch it twice. I will send it to some of my friends…..
Not to worry, the US can’t default. The real problem is that Govt has promised more than it can deliver.
I’d throw in that there is plenty of money to pay for social support systems if the rich and corporations pay their taxes instead of spend kajillions to lobby for more breaks – with the inconscionable profits they’re hoarding.
The president can invoke the constitution to save our economic skin. But our rating will still be destroyed by the inability of congress to deal with reality.
Good morning,
Druggies need their fix, we need our Magnificent Mindless ‘Merican Murder Machine fix. Nothing matters more than magnificent mindless murder not social security, Medicare and Medicade nothing.
We haven’t paid for ronnies MX peacekeeper that was built and destroyed for nothing but military madmen wet dreams.
Over half our budget is spent on organized murder that’s where to swing the swing blade.
That’s an outright lie without government created wealth hoarders there is no money problem. The money problem is it’s a tool not an end the wealth hoarders demand.
Thanks Elliott. As always, well done.
on edit;
Sorry pups, it is early. Good morning all.
Morning pups. There’s a more than usually disturbing piece over at Yves’ place http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/07/more-shades-of-tarp-latest-deficit-ceiling-plan-to-establish-extra-constitutional-legislative-process.html on how the likely denouement of the manufactured debt crisis will be an enabling act that effectively guts what’s left of American democracy. The ‘F word’ has surfaced. About two months ago I was in Paris dining with friends well-connected with the upper reaches of the political establishment there, and I commented that I thought the United States was probably 2/3 of the way down the road to fascism. ‘Mais non!, she said. ‘C’est tout foutu’ I replied. And it really is.
There are historical precedents from the 1920s and early 1930s in Europe of emergency resolutions giving the executive powers non-reviewable by the courts to resolve a budgetary crisis. The proposed committee of 12 essentially creates a ‘super-congress’ to decide budgetary matters. I don’t recall anything like that in the Constitution, but what do I know? Anyway, it’s only a piece of paper.
Let’s hope for better times.
This one of the most absurd posts from your collection of absurdities I have ever read. Get back to your troll-masters and let them write up some better talking points for you. Learn a little macro-economics, before you start spouting utter nonsense. Save your crap for the knuckle-dragging tea-baggers.
Good morning, pups. It’s Dowd, Friedman, Kristof and Bruni today. In “The End of Awe” MoDo writes about the stirring sound of mythologies cracking, on both sides of the Irish Sea. The Moustache of Wisdom says we should “Make Way for the Radical Center,” and that a third way is on the way for the 2012 presidential campaign. And its convention will be held on the Internet. And then apparently politics will get all flat, just like the earth… Mr. Kristof addresses “Republicans, Zealots and Our Security,” and says forget about Iran. These days, the most dangerous threat to national security comes from our own elected officials. Mr. Bruni, in “Much Ado About Michele,” says Bachmann will likely not win the White House, but, in the meantime, she is manna for the pundits.
Here they are.
The coffee and tea are ready, the cold drinks are in the fridge, and I’ve got chocolate croissants with fresh fruit today. Now I’ve got to get it in gear and get out to the garden to water before it’s too hot. It’s 83° already, with 88% humidity, which calculates to a heat index of 94. The index got up over 120 yesterday, so I’m not going to wait! Have a great day.
Thanks, and it seems we were all too optimistic, the Moustache really did get his boost into Village status by those who thought he joined them in thinking the world is actually flat.
Huffpo reporting plans for a Super Committee to take care of all this, including bigger cuts; Ob not yet signed regs for air/ozone issues; NPR notes the plan is opposed by corps…Enough said. Good Morning All.
I wonder if these pundits who jumped to conclusions about Muslims attacking Norway, (like Jennifer Rubin), will be called out on that? Nah!
Good morning!
Marion and Ruth, you ladies just come sit by me. It’s 60 degrees here in Southern California. I’ll share.
Lots of mention that Huffpo is clumsily satirizing what it’s all about wrt debt ceiling. like just about the entire congress, they don’t get it.
Ha.
As expected, it was about the video games;
‘The profile veered between references to political philosophers and gory popular films, TV shows and video games.’
http://news.yahoo.com/norway-massacre-suspect-driven-crusade-000804610.html
Yes, please.
Me, too, Cutie. Good to see you….I dare not spend most of the day on the debt struggle. Sent note to WH yesterday, and tried to call OFA…put on hold. I hope folks take to the streets.
Not surprising: it’s a ruse road to the entitlements. But the article is interesting, assuming it is about to be a proposal.
And this my friends, is why it’s a bad fucking idea to allow and encourage people to carry guns with them everywhere they go. Except now the NRA and the baggers will whine that if only somebody else had been “exercising their second amendment rights”, none of this would have happened. That way we could have had a shootout at a kid’s birthday party too instead of just a massacre.
Stupid, stupid, stupid….
Why do we need a Super Congress? Is that in addition to the Lame Congress, or instead of?
I think if they can’t get the job done, they should go home. Bye bye. Find someone who can get something accomplished.
They are aol. HuffPost was pretty weak on analysis before and now they are just aol. ‘Nuff said.
You, my dear, can take the day off. Contemplate something good.
And, yes, you can sit by me too.
Why, because it’s super demi! And that would be better, right?
Good morning! :)
In addition to…total of 12 selected from each Chamber and both parties. Strict limitations on the legislative process. Why has our country gone crazy? I wish the Pres. could have a Come to Jesus meeting with LBJ….
Man, that’s just crazy. Guns to school, church, birthday parties. What’s next? It’s a very good thing I don’t have a gun. I can barely control my mouth some days.
Super size my government? What are they smoking? And, why are they bogarting it?
Many thanks….Let’s have a lazy day. Angela has been up and back in bed several times…Smart girl.
MORE GUNS! That’ll solve all of these pesky little problems!
Goddammn! What was wrong with keeping firearms at home or on the gun range? Oh, that’s right! The NRA couldn’t fund raise off of that! Think about how many dead people there are and are gonna be so that an irrelevant and obsolete organization can continue it’s parasitic existence.
Are any of you going to be at Jane’s Town Hall webinair today? I’m not because I have nothing to say. I’m stumped. I can’t even come up with a topic for a Sunday Food Diary.
Recalls to me that as a class in my dorm we elected the least liked person as secretary so she would spend her time chasing everyone down. I think anyone charged with handling the debt is getting that done to them.
Is the NRA going to pay for those funerals? What happened to Life is Sacred? Harumph.
Not me, I’m too inclined to think everyone’s getting ahead of negotiations that are actually taking place.
I did one on cooking in the heat, see over at MyFDL.
The truth that no one really knows what’s going on…you have to be right. Let alone all that keeps changing. S’posed to go to 104 today. We have really had a run
I already left a comment. Was the first thing I did this am.
Bam! I coulda had a V-8.
I’ll tell you gals a funny conversation I had with Sonny Boy. He said something that contradicted something he had said the day before, and when I reminded him of what he had said, he replied, Oh, really? I said that? I must have been full of shit.
Wouldn’t we love to her the congress be so honest?
Is it time for naked blogging?
Goodie! I’ll go see.
Maybe…or protesting in the nude. Maybe that would distract the important people ;)
Yes, I care. I don’t see why it has to be borrowed and we should have to pay interest on it.
We are no longer on the gold standard. We have purely “printed money” (aka “fiat money”), and we own the printing press. Why don’t we cover our deficits by “printing” more money to cover them? IMHO, that would be no more inflationary than printing and selling bonds, and we wouldn’t have to pay interest.
But, I doubt that was the answer you were looking for.
Mine tells me I should have made him read more in jr. high. Of course, I was losing my mind trying to keep him from mugging old ladies, in my mind.
The problem is people like this are the ones buying guns in large part.
In my case, no distraction would occur. Might as well stay off the street, in the AC.
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Dunno. I have friends in town for the hippie wedding I attended yesterday. Might be spending time with them instead.
How was the wedding? Sounds good.
I agree that this “super congress” is scary stuff and flies in the face of the Constitution. But wasn’t the precedent been set with the so-called “fast track” for NAFTA in a sense?
In that case it was the POTUS drafting the unalterable — yay or nay vote — on NAFTA, right? This appears different in that it’s a committee, but — like all other committees — membership would be determined by the leadership. And since the yay / nay precedent has been set, it won’t be too scary to The Incumbent Party.
My guess is the only way this bad idea dies is if the likes of Kucinich and the Tea Party demand their Constitutional voice be heard and tell Boehner to get lost. I’m guessing Reid / McConnell already have their 60 votes corralled.
OMG, that was funny. I don’t have to be careful, I’ve got a gun.
And, “loudener”. Made be smile. Thanks.
A burst of tie dye. I did an outfit for myself that I got a lot of compliments on and in true hippie fashion, my shoes were held together with tape.
I want the attachment to shoot down police helicopters. LMAO!
What fun…those were the days….
What made it a hippie wedding. Details. We want details.
On edit: nevermind. I saw your answer. Wish I could see your outfit.
MTP, it’s too late, the crazy baggage in congress has already ruint our ratings abroad, says Daley.
All of the hippies in attendance, not tom mention the happy, (and in this case I mean that word), couple. :)
Five days?! But, I’m mad now.
Ya gotta hand it to those writers. Great stuff.
I can believe that…we have become the country that likes to go to war and now deprive the “little people”….all in stark color.
Nice. Did you read about the weddings in NY that started last night at midnight? Finally. I feels so sorry for the gay couples in California. Damn.
Btw, I doubt this “super congress” was initially the end game. But it sure does fit nicely into the MOTU scheme to:
1) consolidate power for the corporatocracy;
2) mitigate the “risk” of voter revolt.
I’m sure the POTUS’ boss, Wall Street, thinks the idea is just peachy! Of course, the idea probably originated with them…
I can hear Obama’s explanation now “Let me be clear: The markets can’t tolerate the uncertainty created by Congress, so…”
Funny; that the rest of the world watches the crazees demolishing its own tax base and says maybe we don’t want to lend them our money.
I think we need to have a thread some evening about how not to be depressed and what steps to take now…I lost a long time friend when I supported O and she thought he was a “communist or socialist or something”.
Something else for sure…..Plus, I posted last night that it all makes more sense to me now why O had to discard Rev Wright…Ob. did not need the conscience, challenge, or association with someone who truly believes in “liberation” theology and social justice concerns. Far more to the point than the Wright rants.
I would if I could. Do not know how to stop the self-destruction.
You’re welcome. Nothing like The Simpsons to start your day.
I did!
You’re correct. I used to start my day by watching Jon Stewart clips, but I like your idea better.
Maybe there will be some ideas from the gathering/FDL this afternoon; maybe we should all fast like the Calif prisoners. They finally got some attention, if I understand correctly. That may effect the economy.
Do you know if couples have to be residents to get a license there?
It’s a conundrum to be contemplated.
One thing that I do that’s helpful is to count my many blessings. And, there are people here who are on that list. Truly.
I kind of waver between grudging respect and borderline contempt with Mr. Stewart these days.
Nope, no idea. I have some friends who went to Mass a couple of years ago to get married and they had no problems.
Yep. I’ll never look at him the same way again.
Hmmmmm. Interesting. I’ll ask Teddy next time I see him.
The application for a marriage license should be online. I got one as a joke in VA once, and it was no problem.
Im sure I missed “it”…what happened? Also, did anyone see who was on with Chris Matthews this morning?
Gloria Borger and Heileman I recall, but wasn’t but half listening.
Thanks. It’ll be interesting to see how many couples actually do get married. And, then stay married. Yikes.
What’s your beef with him? Mine is his desire for this false “civility” and his willingness to have worthless scumbags like Bill Kristol on his show over and over again.
According to Stewart, there is no difference between Olbermann and O’Reilly, Maddow and Ingraham, etc. It’s more of the teabaggers and firebaggers are equivalent bullshit, despite the obvious difference of one group being in touch with reality while the other would be hard pressed to spell it.
Proving he’s truly a comedian.
Geez… well Jon Stewart is part of the establishment, so I guess he has to spout the party line from time to time.
Although I feel that there are *some* points of commonality & similar concern between the Tea Party citizen & people who post here at FDL, I totally disagree with the comparison between someone like Olbermann and Bill O’Reilly… or even bet RM & Ingraham. That’s just ridiculous, but it’s all done to disparage the needs & voices of “average” citizens, and to make those of us on the “left” look just like the lunatics on the right.
All done to disenfrancise the voices of middle/working class citizens.
It’s why I so seldom watch much of anything on tv anymore.
Or it would if he hadn’t been so serious at the time he said it.
Wow, Im shocked about Ingraham…she is truly mean. I wrote some of her sponsors that they should be ashamed and count me out…She has been merciless about Mrs. Ob., and she often has a really mean substitute…that’s been quite awhile so maybe that person was ditched. Thanks.
Late g’morning, pups. Jennifer Rubin–is she the Post writer who said the Norway Massacre was al Qaeda and the Post kept that up even after the rightwinger was caught?
Never let the facts get in the way of a good narrative. The ultimate Village meme. Right, Cokie? It’s out there.
Back to read comments….
It’s all done to discredit us, because we’re almost always right about things. Always have been. J. Rowling through one of her characters said it best I think: “People find it easier to forgive someone for being wrong than for being right”. Stewart spouted that meme and lost all credibility with me.
A challenge to the true actor.
Just back from watering, and find something has been picking big pieces of plastic planter off, making large confetti. Crow? Raven? It didn’t eat the tomatoe plant in it though.
Tavis Smiley on CBS Sunday Morning with closing essay about who is being ignored in the debate about the debt.
Poverty is the invisible word in America.
Please add CBS Sunday Morning to your Sunday listing. It’s the only show worth waking up for.
Tavis has his own show, can catch it in the wee hours on PBS.
Edit; Harlem book show yesterday on CSpanII had very good moments.
Crooks & Liars has an excellent piece on the ideology of the Norway shooter.
Hey, Friend; I’m looking forward to Caturday. During the week, I learned that the linky thing is only sorta fixed. Though I could get to you directly thru the thread as posted, the link thru friends/your name etc would just take me to the FDL information page. Still having problems I guess.
I’m over at LOLcats as we speak, lookin’ for cute kitteh pix.
Cleocatra after a bath in charcoal
https://picasaweb.google.com/RCalvo8/CabDrollery02?authkey=Gv1sRgCN2Osum7xve9Hg#5632138449496634274
Great….looks like from your link that Hannity should go the way of Beck, it seems to me.
another doll, right there. thanks.
David McCullough on Fareed’s GPS. Okay, I’ll keep watching this show and CBS Sunday Morning. Look out at the glittery lake, listen to the muted wind chimes, wait for the birds to finish breakfast at the platform feeder, then the spaniels and I shall venture forth.
I will be worried about that after I start receiving a pay check instead of an unemployment check. The more people that have jobs, the more taxes can be paid into the federal government. The main concerns should be jobs, jobs, jobs. Did I mention jobs?
The real value to the political class, demi, is that a Super Congress, as invisioned by McConnel and Reid, would preclude the people from developing a third party, another political party to challenge the established sell-outs.
DW
Please explain…why would that be the result?
If the Super Congress becomes the “law” of the land, then the manner in which it is set up: Twelve members, six from each chamber, comprised of three member from EACH of the TWO parties, precludes, on the basis of “fairness”, a third party’s participation.
The Super Congress is set up to take SS and Medicare from the people, and to ensure that the people CANNOT challenge what is being done.
“Bipartisan Leadership” is busily, on our dime, making quite certain to anticpate any and all attempts on our part, the people’s “part”, to change the staus quo.
Some might consider this behavior clever and astute, but it is simply criminal … and treasonous to democracy, to boot.
If nothing else, the push for a Super Congress must end any doubts that the “two parties” are in alignment and that everything else is mere Kabuki.
DW
Well. Just. Damn.
It’s worse than I first thought.
I’d swear some more, but it is Sunday morning and all. And, early too.
But, thanks for the explanation, DW.
I thought you were going to take a break from the ickys today.
They keep pulling us back in.
And, also it seems unconstitutional.
You can’t institutionalize a political faction. It could also be a free speech infraction. Cutting out anyone but R’s and D’s.
Well, demi, the Constitution effectively was ended by Bush v. Gore, in 2000, and with it, any meaningful “concern” (and redress) for the issues which you have, reasonably, raised.
DW
Fuckity, fuck, fuck.
And, Al is still fat. Why didn’t he try harder? Was someone blackmailing him? Should I just go back to bed?
I guess the Democratic Party just disappeared last week. Do they care? Will anyone miss them?
Wishful thinking. The World’s Oldest Political Party is, unfortunately, very much alive and blocking both progress and the formation of a true progressive party.
Hmm…..we may need to think about Article 5. We should be focusing very urgently on state legislatures:
Article. V.
The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.
Gore should have questioned the decision, at least for the public’s benefit, demi … and yet I do wonder how a Vice President Lieberman would have done ANY of us any good, would have served the cause of genuine democracy and been a friend to truth?
The choice of Lieberman caused me to have further questions about Gore’s judgment AND maturity, considering that had he long considered that he might, someday, be President, or have the opportunity of becoming so.
From the time when Gore was quite young, he truly believed that he was being “groomed” for nothing else … and that consideration greatly affected his behavior and rhetoric for many years.
DW
Super Congress could happen. We started going down this path with NAFTA. Wasn’t that an “up or down” vote after it was written by the executive branch?
And considering that Boehner says the Congress writes the laws and the President signs them… makes me wonder what Boehner’s position was on the “fast track” for NAFTA?
Oh wait… NAFTA was a treaty requiring 2/3 Senate approval… oh wait… no, it was an “agreement” requiring a simply majority… ugh…
This slippery slope toward the “super Congress” began a long time ago.
Well, maybe they can complete the descent to an extraConstitutional government expeditiously and end the pain of seeing our government get eliminated in a relatively quick fashion…
Amen. My husband and I watched it in stunned silence. At the end he said, “Take that, Ben Stein.” I have been looking without success for a video of it. Any help would be gratefully accepted.