It’s been a depressing week, with the debate raging in DC over whether we should destroy the economy amid bitter political wrangling, or if we should drop it into the shitter in a spirit of heartwarming bipartisan compromise.
But there is some good and genuinely excellent news! Starting at midnight EST, the first official same-sex marriages will take place in New York. From the perspective of common decency and common sense, I can’t believe NY didn’t do this years ago. From the perspective of our state being half-choked with wingnuts just as crazy as they are anywhere else, I’m astonished it’s happening at all. But I’ll for once be optimistic and see my state not as half-lunatic, but as just slightly more than half-civilized.*
There seem to be several candidates for the first couple to be officially knotted, such as this Jewish pair from Long Island. And then there are these Western New York grandmas, who look just lovely together, and have such high hopes about the future:
Over time, this will become federal law. We know we will someday be long gone, and no one will remember who were are or what we did. But this law will be on the books. And someday, someone will fall in love, and want to get married, and they’ll go to City Hall, and no one will be standing there with ugly, venomous signs with so called “religious” messages of hate. No one will care. They’ll just be another loving couple, who want to love and care for each other for the rest of their natural lives.
Hear hear, and congratulations!
But not everyone is happy. The breathless hysterical squawking emanating from NRO is icing on the gay wedding cake, for those who enjoy dim-bulb bigot caterwauling:
New York has struck a great blow, in the name of a false “right,” against real freedom. Same-sex marriage is inseparable from authoritarianism, as we will see when New York’s Christians, Jews, and Muslims lose the religious freedom to act on the truth about marriage as they know it.
Ah, quitcherbitchin. You still have your right to carry your ugly, venomous signs! Chin up!
For the rest of us, lift a glass, throw some rice, and have some cake.
*Polling data shows more than half of New Yorkers support same sex marriage, but it did only squeak through the legislature.



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Evening all
SaTHERSday Night Fever!
I thought our choices on the economy were between drowning in the bathtub (though I suspect they would prefer to do it in the shitter) or driving off a cliff?
As to gay marriage trampling the rights of religious bigots, they still have the right to be as bigoted and moronic as they always have been and certainly no one is going to force them to get gay married or to perform any such marriages in their house of superstition and ignorance. They just cannot prevent other, more sane people from enjoying the same benefits they do.
Thersaturday Night Fever!
And cheers to all the loving grandmothers out there.
saTHERSday nite live!
This is a Grand Bargain: we’re tossing the bathtub off a cliff.
Sounds like a “grand” bargain indeed. We are ruled by fools and lunatics.
The Christofascists will keep bleating about the loss of their alleged rights until the rest of us all turn blue and keel over, I guess. This kind of bigotry is, after all, a lifestyle choice.
The operative word is “ruled.” The fools and lunatics in question clearly don’t understand the concept of governing.
Dear me, do I dance on the grave of this “great blow, in the name of a false “right,” against real freedom” in heels or flats?
Choices, choices, choices…
They are all absolutely terrified that someone else, somewhere, is actually having fun.
Hee hee. I’ll use a pogo stick myself.
Under the circumstances, I rather do think that these are the proper footwear.
I have a feeling that they’re more than a little jealous that their religious straitjacket doesn’t let them join in the fun, but they’ll be damned if they’re going to drop a lifetime of spoiling everyone else’s day.
I think a mass grave-pissing is more than deserved.
Hmmm. I don’t know what purse would go with a pogo stick.
WHATEVER WILL I DO?!?!?
Enough goofing – YAY on the Grammas!
I need one of those lady stand-up-to-pee funnels to properly disrespect the grave. Now what shoe looks best with the funnel?
yay for grammas!!!
YAY for everyone in NY. They are one step closer to the true equality promised by our founders.
This shit makes me so happy I wanna marry my honey again, and every other hetero or not hetero in my hood.
I’m shuretaintly unable to provide for them all, so I guess the Mormon’s got me there.
Let’s get drunk n screw?
*G*
Keeping Marriage Sacred: I hear that the-woman-whose-name-I-will-not-type has a “war hero” son whose new wifey will soon produce another of those abstinence only 8 pound ‘premature’ babies. Gotta love how the fundies follow their own religious rules to keep marriage sacred.
Ooooh. I read something about that. Very abstainy-ish family they’ve got there.
And, yeah, YAY for the grannies. I should get so lucky! :)
That’s where all of the week’s shenanigans tie together, innit? Now in NY anyone can marry the partner of his or her choice…but odds are that when Congress and Obama get done with us, they’ll all be living in omnisexual shantytowns anyway.
Comment snark of the week.
Well done.
Never mind the prize, it’s moist, smelly n comes in a lit brown paper bag.
Usually saved for All Hallow’s eve.
But it’s Halloween every day, now. N the circus never leaves town (something wicked this way comes).
This “war hero” son is the one who entered the service to get out of jail after getting caught cutting the fuel lines on a school bus? What a wonderful family that is.
Haven’t you heard? You automatically get an official “Get Out of Hell” card when you join the club.
Yep, it’s all about family values. Wish they’d get some. And good on Sen Franken for setting those turkeys straight about nuclear families. I loved it!
Well, Rick Santorum and John Cornyn are still out of luck as NY still does not allow marriage to dogs or box turtles.
SCREW!SCREW!SCREW!SCREW!SCREW!
What consequences!
I dunna . . . what else can we do but love ourselves to death as we are pummeled from behind?
;-)
Yep, and middler grifter Willow has been out of sight for quite some time. Guess she’s being home schooled or off visiting an aunt or whatever.
We are all shantytowners now.
Don’t fall for the liberal crap Dearie that Pups are leveling on yas.
Hold out for that secret handshake . . . ;-)
Uh oh. Visiting an aunt or whatever? Has it been 9 months yet?
Well, no state does. On the bright side, though, cohabitation is permitted in several Southern states.
9 months?
That can only mean one thing . . . .
A ship sets sail.
A shot rings out.
A child is born.
In chapter 5 I tie this all together.
-Snoopy
All I know is that I know six couples who were never allowed to marry, and all of them were better parents and nicer people than most of the fundies I’ve been accosted by. All of their kids had better…well, shall we say self control….than most of the ‘early marriers’ from fundamentalist backgrounds.
That Franken clip was fun…
It would seem that several states allow this.
707! I remember that punchline, is the sad part…
Here is a map, which incidentally includes Cornyn’s home state.
The inbred are looking at this the wrong way. It isn’t stepping on their rights at all. In fact it is free license for them to foam at the mouth, roll round on the floor having spastic seizures, tearing their hair out, babbling incoherently, pissing themselves, shitting themselves, vomiting, speaking in tongues, and just generally making a scene. You wanted attention, you got it. Don’t let us down get your super freak on. Flip out till you can’t flip no more. Rest up and do it again. We love it.
Enough of this gay frivolity. It is time for me to toddle off. Take care all.
“I’m goin’ to leave old Texas now, for they’ve found new use for the longhorn cow…”
I am so surprised that Louisiana is not on it!
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Good evening. :)
The only reason gay marriage is an issue at all is because homophobes are more likely to vote for conservative candidates. Making gay marriage an issue – especially during voting periods – brings these haters out to the polls.
Its a manipulation of the worst kind of emotions in certain people in effort to get them to come out to the voting booth and cast a vote that is contrary to their economic interest. Funny how people with vote reactively for something like “protecting the institution of marriage” but remain apathetic about issues like raising the retirement age or the abolishment of medicare. It just goes to show how easily some people can be misled.
The “institution” of marriage is not the sacred covenant people claim it to be. If it was then divorce statistics would be starkly different than they are. Marriage is nothing more than a property rights agreement, and for those that have children together – it really is the absence of a parental rights agreement. Why should gay people be prevented from entering into a contractual agreement with each other? That’s what marriage is. If two consenting adults want to co-mingle property and tax liability, why should any of us heteros give a flying fuck?
This crap has been used to motivate the conservative base (and sway some swing voters) into voting for decades. It became a national issue during the Bush/Kerry election. Since then the general public has been set to marinate on LGBT issues. I personally believe that even though homosexual behaviors and lifestyles of varying sorts still seems a bit odd to the straight crowd, most agree that they have a right to live how they choose to live and be who they are without reprisal. Preventing people from being happy together is wrong. It is not an act of righteousness. Allowing gay people to marry is not going to turn people who are otherwise straight, gay. It probably will encourage people who are in the closet to come out. Why should anyone fear that?
I’m a fine dining waiter. Tonight, I served two lesbian ladies. When I first approached the table, I could tell they were a little stiff. I read that they were perhaps a little unsure of what to expect of me or the restaurant in general. I broke the ice with a joke. I tried to make it subtle enough as not to seem draw attention to anything specific, but to maybe engender their comfort. They loosened up and enjoyed their dinner and tipped me well. I even had them laughing at jokes. I’ve been in the business a long time and I’ve learned to read body language. It’s my job to not just present the menu and the wine list, and to serve dinner, but to facilitate an experience. In many cases I have to access the mood and temperment and press the appropriate buttons in people to reach that end. It’s not as easy as one might think. It’s a subtle art that takes a lifetime to master. Sometimes I’m the quiet, technically efficient server who postures perfectly with an atomic internal clock. Other times, I’m a stand up comedian. To be sure there are many, many shades in between. Either way, I have to be the waiter my customer wants or needs me to be. It doesn’t take a great student of life to see the injustice of how a certain slice of the public feels a bit of intrepidation from time to time at something as simple as a dinner out. With these two women, I was happy to see them let their hair down a little, hold hands and enjoy a somewhat romantic dinner like any other couple. Really all it took was a little genuine kindness and empathy, which I was happy to give, because for me – the giving it took for such a small gesture was it’s own reward (and I got 25% – which is always good too).
I couldn’t imagine what it would be like if every time I took my fiancee out to dinner I had to worry about sneers and snide comments. That shit would really wear me out pretty fucking quick. It also explains why those ladies were a bit guarded at the onset of their dining visit.
All it takes is a little human understanding and empathy. Simple cognitive contimplation of real life reveals the real moral issue. Placing barriers and discomforts in/on the lives of gay people is wrong.
When I see people publicly calling gays barbarians, or trying to connect gay behaviors and mannerisms with the end of civilized society, or that gays are savage killers who cannot escape from moral terptitude – I’m stupified at the ridiculousness of such commentary.
Live and let live.