
Satan, or according to Michele Bachmann's former church, the Pope.
I’m pretty tired of the endless debt ceiling kabuki, so I wandered over to Clownhall, hoping to be entertained. Never fails.
Here’s professional wingnut Emmett Tyrell, founder and editor of The American Spectator and former panty-sniffer for Richard Mellon Scaife, doing his best to defend Michele Bachmann from all those mean libruls.
What is Bachmann’s transgression? She was, until recently, a member of a church that opposes homosexuality and gay marriage. It also takes issue with the Roman Catholic papacy. It is the Salem Lutheran Church of Stillwater, Minn. And by the way, it is no longer Bachmann’s church. She now attends the evangelical church Eagle Brook, in another part of Stillwater, where she now lives. A close friend, JoAnne Hood, tells The New York Times that the Bachmanns “are absolutely not against the gays. They are just not for marriage” — presumably not for gay marriage. As for their position on the Catholic papacy, Hood is mum.
Well, I speak as a Roman Catholic. I do not know what the Salem Lutheran Church’s complaint is, but if it is the Catholic doctrine of papal infallibility, I think I understand.
Clearly they don’t have teh Googles at Clownhall or the Spectator, because a quick search would’ve turned up this:
Since Scripture teaches that the Antichrist would be revealed and gives the marks by which the Antichrist is to be recognized, and since this prophecy has been clearly fulfilled in the history and development of the Roman Papacy, it is Scripture which reveals that the Papacy is the Antichrist.
Yeah, I’d say there’s a pretty big freaking gulf between a theological difference about papal authority and “that dude in the hat is Satan.”
So what’s the best part, here?
- That Emmett charged off and wrote a spirited, 725-word defense of Michele Bachmann without bothering to first look up the controversy he was defending her against.
- That Bachmann belonged to a church for a decade which believes the leader of Emmett’s church is the Devil himself.
- That Emmett cross-posted this disaster at Newsbustards.
Clownhall: entertaining liberals since forever.



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I love wingnuts when they are on a roll. Their strength is their invincible ignorance. If they ever once knew what they were talking about they could be dangerous.
Careful, BT. You could bruise your brain reading that stuff.
“The world is made for people who aren’t cursed with self awareness.”
– Annie Savoy in Bull Durham
Evidently Bachman is a Lutheran. Back in the 16th century Luther did write that the Pope is the anti-Christ, over and over again. Luther also believe that he was living in end times.
Contemporary Lutherans have a far more enlightened view of the Gospel. Or at least most of them do.
Reconciling in Christ Lutherans recognize gay marriage.
I know this is off topic from the topic of Bachman is a national embarrassment. Just thought I would insert a little Reformation scholarship.
sorry tired of the Bachman side show
what else is going on
didja see this
Last weekend’s New York Times magazine had an interview with Sheila Bair, whose five-year term heading the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. (FDIC) expired last week. Now she can begin to tell what happened. She said that Mr. Obama promised her that he would try to prevent the mortgage frauds that were occurring, especially in subprime mortgages, and support better bank regulation. But then she would learn, just an hour before he gave a speech, that he would have changed the draft that she had seen, and took out what he’d promised her. The rewrites apparently were done mainly by Tim Geithner, who acts as a lobby for the big bank contributors. Instead of running the Treasury to benefit the U.S. economy, he’s benefiting his Wall Street constituency. Significantly, he was a protégé of Clinton Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, who gave the name “Rubinomics” to pro-Wall Street opposition to bank regulation and a dismantling of public control over the banking system.
Ain’t it the truth.
“A close friend, JoAnne Hood, tells The New York Times that the Bachmanns ‘are absolutely not against the gays. They are just not for marriage’ — presumably not for gay marriage.”
Yeah, that’s why Marcus calls gays “barbarians”–he’s just sooooooo full of Christlike love.
This article (via Digby) gives a bit of insight into she who could be the Gooper nominee. Rather disturbing, though not at all surprising.
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I’m Catholic. And it pisses me off to no end when these fucking ignorami who know nothing about The Church decide to hold their stupid, ill-fucking-informed bigotted opinions. I’m born, raised and educated Catholic, so I can say the Pope sucks. And I can say The Church is a fucking joke. But Bachman and her ilk can just shut the fuck up about my religion.
Thank you very much.
Blue Texan!
I’ve missed you!
“The Genesis of Michele Bachmann?” Let’s hope she follows scripture closely and segues into a 40-year Exodus.
You mean the dude in the hat isn’t Satan? I guess I’ll have to take back some of the things I’ve said about him.
Don’t take it too personally–it’s just another one of those opinions frequently held by truly stupid people.
The devil you say!
The clutching of pearls would be a awesome thing to behold if you dared say anything about hers…
So he’s claiming it’s the libruls that have a problem with her former church????
I’m no papal or Catholic authoriy, but I’d guess there’s more than a few conservative Catholics that might have a problem with the whole “The Pope is the AntiChrist” thing.
Just a guess.
But of course, ALL THE PROBLEMS with Bachmann, Palin, and any other right wing nutcase is the librul media.
Sometimes I wonder just how apopleptic they would be if we really did have a liberal media.
Think I will call it an early night. Take care all.
LOL. Just a rant. The campaig hasn’t started yet in earnest so I better get used to a helluva lot more stupid.
Good night, man.
Come on BT, it’s a widely known fact that The Devil Wears Prada [Shoes]
J.H.F.C. !!!
SadlyyesItookapeakandtossedmycookies !
Already? Night DrD!
If only that was the real cover…
What is Bachmann’s transgression?
Where should I start she belonged to a church that does not like Gays or Catholics? There is no scenario where the GOP wins the Presidency without Catholic votes. There is no better way to piss off conservative Hispanics like Florida Cubans than attacking the Church. Michelle can’t even be VP if this story gets traction.
Moderate Voters and Lefties a Majority support Gay Marriage and now Michelle is doing a Mitt waffle on her Gay hate first she denies her husband runs a Pray away the Gay clinic then news comes out she leaves her anti gay church whats next is she going to walk away from her previous anti gay stands?
Sure Michelle’s supporters realize Michelle is doing all this ( wink ) just to get Moderate voters but it does say something to Michelle’s supporters that she has to walk way from them.
Michelle’s attacks on African American farmers recently suggest that her campaign thinks attacking African Americans is safer than attacking Gays or Catholics which is interesting.
That is just too wrong for words.
The word of the day shall be “ignorami.”
You mean it’s not?!?!?
Damn, I was so looking forward for some recipe tips in the Peas and catfood: the new haute cuisine article.
RonD !
Didja make it for the Shuttle Launch ?
Just a note from the Orlando Sentinel on The Undefeeated:
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_movies_blog/2011/07/palin-picture-takes-a-pounding-from-critics-is-anybody-seeing-it.html
Is Michelle’s husband still getting Government fund’s for his quack clinic? Does Michelle think that the Federal Government should regulate people’s bedrooms?
Does Michelle think her husband’s clinic is a Government sponsored brain washing clinic?
Does Michelle think her husband’s clinic is a good use of Tax Payers money?
Does Michelle support cutting SS and Medicare so her husband can keep a Pray away the Gay clinic going?
Salem Lutheran Church of Stillwater MN is a Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod church according to its website. The Wisconsin Synod is the most doctrinaire Lutheran group in the US, even more than the Missouri Synod. Its doctrine is a combination of a very strict interpretation of Reformation era Lutheran doctrine and American fundamentalism, which can be pretty toxic and narrow minded. These things are hard to understand without a pretty close knowledge of the ins and outs of the history of Lutheran immigration and the things the different groups liked to fight about.
Its a little weird, but the anti-Catholic thing comes straight out of the 16th century. Back then people had wars over these points, so I guess its not as bad now as it could be.
Oh no! That would mean coming out of the veal pen. No way are any of them going to give up their spot at the trough voluntarily.
Yes. A before and after point in my life…since childhood, I have been able to walk outside, at frequent intervals, and watch a manned spacecraft depart for outer space. It is a memory and a life experience I would trade for nothing less than the life or health of my loved ones.
They can lie about ticket sales but that means the GOPers who believe will waste resources on Sarah that could go to other candidates despite unemployment and gas price numbers that should leave Obama behind the GOP in the polls the GOPers are running losers.
It takes a big loser to run behind a President with unemployment and gas prices this high this long.
The GOP would be better off running a corpse than the people they got now.
Still when was the last time the movie companies did not allow independent verification of ticket sales?
Someone gots Clout fixing things for Sarah big Clout I thought only Karl Rove and the Corporate GOP had that kind of Clout?
Does the Corporate GOP want Sarah to split Michelle’s vote?
To have lived in the time of Apollo, of Armstrong, of the Shuttle, of the High Frontier. To watch humans depart for outer space, almost routinely, atop beautiful white towers of steel and flame. One day people will say,”Wow. That must have been awesome.” And they will be right. It was.
I’m sure it was … seems like only yesterday Columbia took off for the first time.
Didja hear about the drag queen going to mass for the first time; a High Mass, at the Cathedral, with the Bishop presiding?
She loved EVERYTHING about it.
The Art. The Candles. The Music. People dressed so nicely.
All so ornate and lovely.
Then, the Bishop came up the aisle, crozier in one hand, swinging incense censer in the other, to exquisite organ and choral music.
As the Bishop passed her, the drag queen reached for the Bishop’s arm, stalling him for a moment, and exclaimed:
“That’s quite the stick you got there hunny, and your drag is DIVINE, but your PURSE IS ON FIRE!”
You have incoming Kelly
EDIT: Oops! Guess I had incoming too.
The joke wasn’t THAT bad, was it!?!
*ducking incoming*
LMAO! Nope, the joke was good. I fixed some typos and shot it back to you. Nighty night all! :)
should of had Marcus B pick out his ensemble.
Arguing with a religious zealot is a waste of time. There is no logic to religion. They have to brain wash people early before they learn logic.
Interesting article. Also another one linked to from it describing the current Republican party as a religious revival/movement (or, let’s just say it, cult) rather than a political party.
Again, think about Obama trying to be such a Reaganite that he thinks he can pull in all the Republicans that aren’t willing to join the cult. If that means dumping the New Dealers and everyone to the left of that, too bad. I don’t agree with what he’s doing, but understanding is the first step.
You’re welcome!
He knows that Bachman and all the rest of her nutzo, wacko, goofball church consider Catholics to be Satanists, he is just leading his legally retarded readers down the garden path of ” i suppose tis the papal infallibility thing”.. then cites …wait for it…. “the founding fathers” oppsition to “the doctrine of Papal infalibity”, except that the so called “doctrine of infallabilty” didnt emerge until the 19th century. Must have been time machine Tom Paine and Ben Franklin who were against Papal Infalibility.
Luther had an ENORMOUS sense of self importance. Not that he didnt turn out to be a rather important person, but everything he wrote from condeming his nemesis the Pope to excoriating the Jews of Europe, was done in a wildly hostile, to the point of being almost drunk sounding, personal voice.On the other hand, Luther never considered himself a Lutheran. In fact, He died calling himself a Catholic( completely ignoring his excomunication). Luther didnt wish to divide the church he just wanted to run it.
“So what’s the best part, here?
That Emmett charged off and wrote a spirited, 725-word defense of Michele Bachmann without bothering to first look up the controversy he was defending her against.
That Bachmann belonged to a church for a decade which believes the leader of Emmett’s church is the Devil himself.”
Speaking of looking stuff up, I looked up the term ‘antichrist’. It does not refer to ‘the Devil himself’.
Wikipedia: The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, is a leader who fulfills Biblical prophecies concerning an adversary of Christ, while resembling him in a deceptive manner. The antichrist will seemingly provide for the needs of the people but deny them ultimate salvation.
Quoting Wikipedia denigrates the blogosphere.
The fact that Bachmann believes the Pope is the Antichrist somehow makes me feel better. If these people really hate Catholicism so much, it’s not quite so surprising that they also hate blacks, jews, gays, immigrants, the government, and so on.
You’ll not want to miss these either, Blue Texan:
“Bachmann Predicted The World Would End In 2006: ‘We Are In The Last Days’” (ThinkProgress.Org, July 18, 2011)
“Gay ‘Barbarians’ Demand Ex-Gay ‘Discipline’ From Bachmann Clinic” (ThinkProgress.Org, July 21, 2011) and video, “Gay Barbarian Horde Glitters Bachmann Clinic“
I am an admirer of yours, Blue Texan, but you have run off the rails here.
So what if Bachmann’s church has a nutty view of the Pope? Are these views any nuttier than those of the Mormons, or even of the Catholics themselves.
The Founders of the Republic are a very over-rated bunch, in my opinion, but one smart thing they did was prohibit a religous test for public office. Let’s keep it that way.
Maybe so. But not as much as fostering an atmosphere where snark trumps accuracy does.