Obama: It is hard to do a big package. Republicans have said it is hard to increase revenues, but poll after poll shows that both Democrats and Republicans say that any package should include revenues. Catfood commission has also said that it should include revenues. We should not be asking the most vulnerable in our society to make sacrifices if we’re not willing to make those who are well-off make sacrifices.
Obama says the worst possible option is to increase the debt ceiling without cuts (as McConnell has offered). Doesn’t want a temporary deal because he thinks we need address it all at once.
Jake Tapper, ABC: Would you be willing to raise the retirement age or means test Social Security?
Obama: We’ve said we are willing to consider everything. We’ve said we should make sure current beneficiaries are not impacted (not true, according to reports that the White House has included chained CPI COLA in their plans.) Making modest modifications in Social Security and Medicare can save trillions and trillions of dollars, including on the provider side. Says there is more work to be done with drug companies, who are doing “very well.” Turning 50 next week, when he will get his AARP card (nice plug for AARP). Refuses to get into specifics when pressed by Tapper.
Q: The GOP say that they will be voting on a $2.4 trillion cut package.
Obama: They’ll be voting on a lot of things for political purposes. Uses family budget analogy again.
Supports much of Bowles-Simpson, but says that he differs with that plan because as Commander and Chief, he can’t support the savings they got from cutting defense spending.
Does not want a fix that takes two years to play out a la McConnell, wants to do everything now.
Obama: I think people will remember in 2012 who took rigid opinions, and who was flexible and tried to compromise. Anyone who wants to keep working in this town should think about that.
Q: Do you think the Republicans are more aligned with the will of the American people at the end of the week than they were on Monday?
Obama: You should probably ask them. Boehner had some problems with his caucus. But we’re running out of time.
More debt ceiling tick-tock:
9:55 am Calculated Risk – Consumer sentiment drops sharply in July, despite low gas prices. Many on the Hill were worried that telling senior citizens they might not get their Social Security checks was not the best idea in this environment for fear of making things worse.
10:18 am Bloomberg - U.S. stocks erased gains after a measure of consumer confidence was below economist forecasts and House Speaker John Boehner said Republicans won’t accept tax increases in a deficit-reduction deal.
10:31 am Time – The US is not drowning in debt. What neither side seems to recognize is that what matters about the debt isn’t the dollar amount per se, but how much it costs us to service it. And by that measure, the debt isn’t nearly as big a problem as it’s being made out to be.
10:44 am WSJ - The Bond Rating Vigilantes are trying to jawbone politicians into striking a deal to raise the Federal debt-ceiling limit before Aug. 2, the date the U.S. could default without a deal. Thus far, however, they’re not having much luck.
10:45 The Hill – Club for Growth says no to McConnell deal



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My president a few weeks ago emphasized that he is POTUS and, unlike lowlife politicians, he can’t say stuff because markets react to what he says.
Good Morning Jane,
and how is History’s Greatest Monster!™ this morning ?
:D
fyi – our good friend Erskine Bowles was on MSNBC about an hour ago, still insisting on the $4T in cuts, golly gee whiz, I wonder who’s idea it was to get ol Erskine out there ?
nice to see he opened with the strawman argument of higher interest rates…
I have it on mute, but can see from the ticker, he’s already stated this is ‘an opportunity’ to do “something big” – fuck us
Paul Ryan must be really pissed that Barry is stealing all his talking points.
scary…
His third option — the one he doesn’t want — is the progressive option.
Do something big? like turn Medicaid into a block program? Who the eff does he think he is? Who does he think elected him, the TOP?
The Rich aren’t going to let a Black man tax them.
Our only hope is that the Rs shut this asshole down — give him a temporary raise in the debt ceiling and nothing else.
We should not be asking the most vulnerable in our society to make sacrifices if we’re not willing to make those who are well-off make sacrifices.
We shouldn’t be asking the most vulnerable to make sacrifices period. Where does he get off?
He and his puppetmasters think they tricked the American people into electing him, and they’re right.
Please stop. That’s nonsense. White presidents have no better luck raising taxes on the rich.
Well, that’s really depressing. I just don’t know what to even think anymore.
The Oily of Oz…will he give the lion courage or sell us out again?
Much like no health care bill in the end would have been better than the pos that Democrats fought for and passed, now a temporary raise in the debt ceiling and nothing else would be better.
Another opportunity wasted… worse, turned into an excuse to fight for and get something harmful by Democrats who’re using it to do what the MOTU want them to do.
He’s pissing off my House Member Sue Myrick, who has been for privatizing everything since before Obama was born.
With Bush, at least you knew the faux liberals would fight against Dim Son killing off Soc Sec. The Oily of Oz might get away with it because the Obots are too blinded by partisanship.
As a percent of income after the bare minimum for living expenses we get SS and Medicare cuts the rich just buy a smaller yacht!
Exactly. This is really scary. The last time they made “modest changes”(Reagan and Tip) to the safety net, Americans lost out on all the productivity gains of the following thirty years.
saw something from him earlier this morning wherein he states, the McConnell Deal is a “down payment” on his plan – but hey, Hamsher called people bad names so let’s run with that :D
Amen, Knox, couldn’t have said it better.
The worst part of this is that after Obama goes down in flames, many around here will think the best thing to do is start screaming against what the Republican who replaces him is doing.
No!
The best thing to do after Obama goes down in flames is to use the time to go after the Democratic Party leadership so that, when Democrats return to power, the leadership is securely in the hands of progressives.
Ah, the family budget analogy! I’m waiting for him to say the imminent invasion of Libya will instead be put on layaway.
Ok just what revenue increases is Obama saying the rich who have all the wealth should pay vs what we pay?
If the wealthy have benefited and seen their wealth increase dramatically since 2008, while wages for the average worker have declined dramatically since 2008, and the only reason why the wealthy have gained through the crisis has been from government handouts (bailouts) and increased concentration of capital through corporate profits, why is Obushma saying that both the wealthy and the poor should have to pay more, even though the poor will see a greater percentage of their disposable income evaporate than the wealthy after these concessions are made? More importantly, why isn’t a reporter asking him that question?
Raise the marginal rate to 90%.
What’s the point of revenue increases if we are breaking up the safety net, the only thing government does that has wide spread support? Why do we need revenue increases if we are losing Medicaid? Oh yeah, to pay down the deficit.
he is bragging on Bowles Simpson what an ass
QE3 & the Debt Ceiling: Obama Bails Out Empire
“What is behind the debt ceiling debate, and Bernanke’s announcement of QE III, is President Obama, a British puppet, and his Wall Street controlled allies in the Congress drawing the United States further into the bailout of the foreign bankrupt monetary institutions of the Empire. Glass-Steagall must be restored and Obama removed from office. There are no other options.”
you know, the fact that Big Zero is actually on TV trying to spin this REALLY DOES MEAN they screwed up the negotiations so bad that there actually could be a default.
Or I could be misinterpreting the kabuki.
Either way, glad I cashed my IRS refund yesterday…
that is way over the top 49% is adequate
Enjoyed the remark calling out the press for treating the debt ceiling talks like a reality TV show.
Obama’s going to raise the roof, whether we like it or not.
We don’t need no water, let the mother fucker burn!
The media treats everything like a reality TV show, unfortunately.
He just said 80% of american people support cuts. do they support cuts to SS and MC. What poll is he using to justify that.
Why not? The rich need to feel pain. This was Eisenhower era stuff. I mean, the dude was a Republican. It’s not a very radical notion, but we live in hard right times.
the tax cuts expire in 2012 o how is that even part of the issue. Such BS
We fought…only two wars? Oh, the others are “overseas contingency operations” or something like that. What a shameful semantics game.
Reality shows are much more substantive and meaningful than these “talks.”
Class warfare on the rich fat cats. Seriously.
because,people should not spend 2x as much in taxes,as they make in pay,just stoopit,and Eisenhower had many,many,deductions
The ninety percent threshold tax bracket was reached incrementally. Fat Cats were not taxed at a 90 percent flat rate. The first 50K taxed at lower rate and so on.
You can’t teach a press corps that is conditioned to behave like lapdogs to stop behaving like lapdogs. It’s nice to point out how they behave but they behave how the political class want them to behave. These politicians like reading what “he said, she said” in the newspapers.
It’s we who don’t have hope, asshole.
“The Real Housewives of Debt Ceiling Talks”
Either congressional Dems are telling the people one thing and the President something else, or HE didn’t get the message that they will not touch Entitlements.
If they need revenue, then start a jobs program now that doesn’t include a bank to run it!
What an incredible asshole we elected.
just stoopit…what is the incentive to work,payingb 90% in taxes
Wow …
Supports much of Bowles-Simpson, but says that he differs with that because as Commander and Chief, he can’t support the savings they got from cutting defense spending.
So he opposes the one good part of Simpson/Bowles and supports all the bad parts. Just great.
These politicians know how to read?
Huh. Who knew?
When speaking of family budgets and sending kids to school and fixing the boiler, does his honor realize that many kids are homeless and hungry and many people don’t have a house much less a boiler. He’s also not worried that in the future peoole on fixed incomes may have to spend a couple hundred $$ more for medical care. The future fixed incomes will be less than they are now because wages don’t amount to a shit. So a couple hundred $$ is the difference between peanut butter and catfood.
And he thinks he’s seen heat from “his party”, he has no idea what the hell kind of heat he’s in for.
quid pro quo
Why the hell not? These asshole billionaires can afford it, man. They might not get to buy that fifth mansion.
Did he really say that?
That’s the stuff of the Laffer Curve. The effective rate was much lower as I tried to point out.
LOL! Yeah, and they will probably drink 56 bottles of Champagne after this presser.
He is telling the truth when he says this is a Republican plan. What must be said is that, thanks to the Tea Party and state legislatures tugging the country to the right, it seems moderate, in fact, a bit liberal.
It’s past time to begin organizing the homeless and unemployed. Where is the next MLK? His wisdom and courage are so desperately needed.
He’s telling us he’s a Republican war-monger. In almost those exact words.
SSDD
1. Manufacture a crisis
2. Make grand speeches
3. Warn of dire consequences
4. Fart around for months doing the above
5. Screw the American people with a “grand bargain with bipartisan support” that allows some members of Congress to vote NO in order to appease their constituents.
6. We, the people. find out days, weeks, months, years later how bad we got reamed by a democratic President and dem controlled Senate
Anything that can hurt the rich is fine by me. They are destroying the earth and US with their fucking greed.
yes,but some lefties just want revenge
These trade bills will be another disaster for the working and middle class. Have Americans learned nothing?
your a hot head
the prez is venal AND stupid
I can’t stand watching our co-opted reporters asking the POTUS smarmy and soft questions. Makes me want to puke. The only theater here is this dog and pony show pretending to be a democracy
or end those 2 needless wars
does prezpotatohead realize > 50% of Merkin people live pay check to paycheck
More jobs exportation (free trade) bills. Dumb fuck.
Twooph!
He said the repugs are wanting all those trade deals! Funny, how they have ran and will run on jobs issues.
So he’s not posturing even while complaining that others are?
“on the right side of that impression…get something done…”
That was just bleating the chant to hold hands together and jump off the cliff. Blergh.
first laugh I’ve had throughout this tragic burlesque – mwah !
btw, did he actually just say “job killing tax hikes™” ?
makes smoke come out of my ears to hear him turning right-wing ideology into conventional bipartisan “wisdom.” There’s truly no reason to vote for him.
Press: If you can’t get Congress to deliver an agreement on something as simple as the debt ceiling, how do you expect to handle other issues?
Obama: Uhhh….
And then talk about people going to the polls to vote for him in 2012. Nothing on our broken democracy.
Absolutely! Both items have to be done or there is going to be nothing left of the country aside from tar, feathers, and pitchforks.
And how do the Obamabots spin that? Pass the popcorn please this will be fun to watch.
Yes I am. I take that as a compliment. Capitalism is the problem. And so is our class system. It is destroying the earth. More people should be outraged.
A package. That’s where this asshole’s head is. Not people, a package.
so true
repeating the lie,over,and over,and over
Oh, now he is talking to Progressives and telling us what we should be concerned about!
MR. President, how about you get concerned about US, the Progressives!
Please, donate to OFA for acting lessons for President Epic Failure. He claims to speak to the American people. But that is his golfing buddies and does not include the unemployed or the poor.
But Zero says he does not listen or watch the cable news. He does not care what the American people think of him, especially that annoying “base”.
But he is lying as usual. He cared plenty about the Glen Beck Breitbart Report on Shirly Sherrod. Obama fired Sherrod before the forged video was shown. These people totally monitor and control electronic mass propaganda. Cancel your cable and you will be happier.
You can’t make investments in the future without big government.
His definition of “our fiscal house in order” preempts all those investments.
you lack negotiation skills which will heap you into the Tparty category
The focus on not decreasing benefits for current beneficiaries is fine, but future cuts are still cuts. We have a generation graduating college with huge debts. They pay Social Security but who knows what they will receive. I do not think the burden of deals should keep being put on the younger generation.
Correction:
The Great Pretender.
This is a travesty. Didn’t anyone ask shouldn’t there be some public debate on these cuts?
Maybe, similar to the Grinch’s heart, his balls will grow three times larger?
When he kept saying that 80% of the American people want spending cuts I found myself rolling my eyes.
Maybe so, but at least they have heart, despite their misguided politics. They just don’t understand the real enemy. Liberals are milk toast.
Without anger, you don’t act.
Obama thinks a crisis over the debt ceiling provides perfect leverage for enacting austerity. Obama doesn’t want a clean vote. Obama wants cuts. Obama can go to hell. This man is no Democrat.
His Medicare eligibility would effect those of us in our late thirties early 40s. I don’t think those of us who have played by the rules all these years should have the floor pulled out on us now either. Frankly, we shouldn’t be cutting the safety net period.
a march on Wall Street ought to show them where our heads are at
The entire premise is ass-backward. The poor and should not be asked to sacrifice anything. Corporate profits are up. Outsourcing runs full tilt.
Obama says that they should also help the fiscal austerity boogie man.
it should be the other way round.
No. That is the issue. Both the President and the repugs do NOT want to create a budget in committee like they should. They would rather create the crisis and push through shit that the American people don’t want.
Just like the last Government shut down crisis, this one will not end up nice.
a wise man lends equal credence to head and heart
I see obama is actually bragging about wanting to destroy the economy furhter with more layoffs
when he says “cuts” what he means is “privitise” which of course increases costs, destroys the job market, increases job competition and lowers wage
BRILLIANT
what we need are jobs not cuts, we need revenue not cuts, we need better job not labor competiton and not cuts
unless he is talking about military cuts which would amount to legitimate savings, instead he is talking about taking the commons and selling it to the privateers
That is their divide and conquer strategy: Reassure current or near SS beneficiaries and cut future beneficiaries. It pits the generations against each other and they have been saying this and doing this since the 1980s.
PRESIDENT SHOCK AND AWE DOCTRINE
Yeah, well the people of Ireland are. They know who it is that caused their misery and they are going straight at it!
I’m afraid the next MLK has been and will be marginalized as a “terrorist”, Marxist, or just killed by the government. The government, business, and media are having an orgy in the same damn bed. Our inadequate educational system also plays a part. MLK has been heraled as a civil rights champion, which he was. Children are not taught that he was organizing a Poor People’s Movement at the time of his assassination much as they are not taught that the US was founded on the genocide of one race and the enslavement of another.
Asking the poor to pay is immoral. He thinks it’s a bargaining chip. It’s plain immoral.
The trust fund for Social Security is around $2,6 trillion.
We spent around $3 trillion in Iraq.
Per Forbes, the underlying risk of $600 trillion in derivatives have been socialized onto the taxpayers.
The next financial crisis will be hellish and it’s on its way
This is easy – if the marginal rate over, say, $500K/yr is 90%, then either folks making $1M will pay 90% of the over-$0.5M as taxes, or figure ways to reduce their taxes. That includes…. charitable contributions! Also expansion of businesses, deferred income through investments in other ventures, tax-supported investments (like clean energy, plant upgrades). All good for the economy, but not for the individual.
And to answer the question, who making $500K / yr needs an incentive to make the next dollar? If they stop at 1/2 Million, the work is still there to be done by someone else. Spread the income.
If it has white feathers, an orange bill, webbed feet, quacks and responds to the name Donald, there’s a damn good chance it’s a duck.
It would appear that Obama is the only one who does not realize he is a Republican.
Ding-ding-ding!
paraphrasing prezzy, “I’ve got three trade deals on the table and we can’t get them (repubs) to talk about how we will help displaced Americans.” Geez I think that means he knows it will destroy more US jobs.
he really is Prezedent Hopeless
gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh he is a broken record
cut,cut,cut
sounds like Greek to me
I doubt many will bother to spin it at all. They’ll just add it to the list of Obama’s “achievements” and leave it at that. It’s pretty apparent that for too many people whatever a President with a (D) does is good and worth supporting. Or the mean ol Republicans made him to do it.
obama knows he is a republican, the conversion and deal to run as a democrat happened probably right after his convention speech
The press corps is nothing more than courtesans. Pampered and privileged and in many cases very comfortable. If only Louis XVI had this group of sycophants France might still have a King.
too complicated…even 39% would have us rolling in dough,why overdo it,when cons like cheney and chimp will just STEAL the SURPLUS
NO MORE SURPLUSES!
correction: “jobs killing tax increases”
I’ve analyzed the system and come to the conclusion that nothing can beaccomplished without direct action. The capitalist system is obviously the problematic piece of the puzzle, as well the class system which perpetuates it. This is the thinking part–which is not insanity, or heated rhetoric, but simply common sense. Trying to save a broken system is insanity.
Agree. When he said the “American people” are worried about the deficit, he is so wrong. I don’t wonder about my next job not being there because of government spending too much. Quite the opposite – I want more spending, by government, corporations, and the rich, to get the economy going again. Then, I’ll be glad to pay Clinton-era taxes. But fix the deficit on my back? Please, no.
As a black man he knew he didn’t stand a chance of winning elections as a Republican so it appears he decided the easiest way to “victory” was to pose as a Democrat. Democrats fell for it hook, line and sinker.
Is it because of Greek austerity or is it because “Greek” is another way of saying we are all about to get it up the ass?
the margin doesn’t increase all at once, it increases incrementally
it doesn’t ever jump to 90 percent and even at the highest margin the total tax aggregate is LESS then the labor class who pay exponentially more in regressive taxes
Yes, sadlyyes, I’m not in favor of 90%, but it does really have some benefits. Just as 39% does.
Does anyone have an address for either Simpson or Bowles? A home address would be best, since I might like to send each of them something personal to show my opinion of their draft catfood resolution.
Just list in comments here.
P.S. When politicians or their lackeys go public with ideas and plans to destroy the lives of tens of millions, they don’t deserve privacy.
Using one’s “head” it becomes very apparent that this “system” is incapable of meaningful transformational reform. Despite the fact there are many capable and honorable people of integrity within that “system” it’s nonetheless corrupt from top to bottom. Corruption of that magnitude cannot reform itself.
so are you advocating marxism….absolute power corrupts absolutely
so fixing this system might be our best bet
39% worked well…if not for the wars we would be sitting on ooooodles of $$$
RE: Obama video
Gee, ’We the People’ get to watch ourselves getting royally fucked on television.
I thought pornography was verboten on main stream media.
But, alas, the average American twit thinks it is entertainment as usual to distract their dim little cerebrums from the reality of their quiet lives of desperation.
When our fearless leader gets done, their piss ant lives won’t be worth the scrap value of their birth certificates.
I personally have had enough change to believe in to last me the rest of my natural life and then some.
Did someone already mention – Obama said he took a plan to the Repub leaders that is supported by most Repub voters – and now his fight would be with Dems to get their support. He said that, for everyone to hear. He proposes what Repubs want, fights the Dems to get it. So, DINO Obama.
Job killing austerity measures is more like it. Ask the Greeks.
Marx was correct about many things in his analysis of capitalism. Europeans have recognized that and created the hybrid of democratic socialism.
Which is why AARP will not fight anything. Their constituency is current seniors, not those who will retire in the future.
ALL governments are corrupt
look at Russia all te pols took all the $$$
we have to fix this system or risk anarchy
do you want a Madd Max country?
Surely you know that Russia is the epitome of corporate crony capitalism. You do know that, right?
yes but the home of Marx Russia is totally corrupt too
the people have to watch their governments and hold their feet to the fire
As soon as Booosh started 2 illegal wars,i knew we were screwed…we should have all camped out on the common
still waiting for the transcript to verify – unf***ing believable, even for him
he’s our compassionate conservative
No, libertarian socialism. Or some form of it. Anything that kills the beast.
I mean, do you honestly believe that this system can sustain us AND stop the ecological apocalypse that awaits us? If you do, show me how we get there because I don’t see it. Capitalism is about resource depletion and greed, a suicide plan for Planet Earth. This is the crossroad we are at. Obama and the United States are small beans compared to the big picture–though I am not minimizing the micro aspect of the rot. Anything can alleviate pain is well worth the fight. But in the end, the system is unsustainable and dead on arrival.
We’ve just recognized the rebels as the government of Libya which further
constrains us from any “quick” exit from that mess.
Thanks Jane, just a quick drive-by to say you inspired me to spend my lunch hour making another round of phone calls to my elected representatives (and my state Democratic Party HQ) and reading them the riot act. Again.
They told me they’ve been getting a lot of calls. I’m sure they could do with more!
In particular, I would highly recommend to anyone with the time and inclination to call the party headquarters in your state. Put them on the spot. Ask them what they are doing to put a stop to Obama’s attack on Social Security and Medicare (I have a whole laundry list of complaints, but I try to keep it simple for their sake ; ) At first they will be puzzled, then defensive, then at a total loss, but it is totally worth your time to put the fear of God into these people. Let them know that there will be serious repercussions for the party beyond Obama’s treachery, if they do not act to stop him.
I didn’t hear his statement, only the q&a after. Since he doesn’t watch or read critiques, when will one of his people clue him the WTF campaign slogan is NOT a winner. Twice. really?
Thank you for doing this, Jane, and all posters. You are all probably contributing to saving my life as my blood pressure cannot stand another direct word out of that man’s lips – none dare call it treason, but I will. This man is deliberately creating a crisis where none exists, and I will no longer address him by name. From now on he is ‘this man’ and he deserves to be impeached, as he has deserved from the moment he took office under false pretenses.
Stay the course. That is the message of this morning’s press conference. Like Bush before him he has a hidden agenda and he will use his inflexible talking points to divide and conquer. Conquer who? (Or ‘whom’; I could never get that straight). The division he is crafting is between Social Security ‘haves’ and Social Security ‘have nots.’
How, pray, can one expect the ‘have nots’, our young people and those among us fortunate enough to be employed, to pay into a program they have fears will not be available to them when their time of need comes? That is a fundamental divide, similar to the one between Shia and Sunni that the Bushies mindlessly trampled on and exascerbated.
This man acts as though well, the haves ought to just be supersatisfied because their minimal income security will not be threatened. However what he doesn’t take into account is that chipping away at the program is stealing from US, the seniors. How? It steals the funding WE put into the program for those coming after us. And that undermines the integrity of the nation, the good faith one generation extends to the next. Sure, sir, we’re like one big family – and you are creating a chasm, denying to seniors the integrity of their legacy to the future! I cannot put it stronger than that. The generation before me contributed to my present wellbeing. And I when I was working contributed to my daughters and sons and others. You cannot touch that!
This man is a traitor. He ought to be impeached.
Heartfelt post. Thanks.
I wish more people could see the truth, but they are just going to have to feel the pain in order to change. I have no doubt Oilbummer will try to come back, assuming he’s reelected, and finally kill the safety net. It’s gotten this bad, and it will get much worse.
He’s such an idiot.
Voters are going to remember in 2012 who tried to compromise a year and a half ago and who didn’t, and vote for “people in this town” on that basis? No, they’re going to vote on the ~10% “official” unemployment rate that they, their friends and their family are personally experiencing. And a “Big Deal” really, really hurts his prospects in that regard.
I scratch my head wondering how in hell a president presiding over 10% unemployment can be reelected–but that’s the US for you, a complete Disneyland of mirrors and confidence men. If the Obots think this record on unemployment doesn’t matter they are truly deluded. But yet it seems they look past it. I’m not sure the rest of the country will. But we’ll see. Oilbumbler is an expert propagandist and I’m sure he has something up his sleeve to fool people.
This pathetic excuse for a president is not a democrat, end of story.
How many deaths with this man be responsible for if the Republicans except the full 4 trillion offer with huge cuts to ss and medicare?
Obama is actually trying to kill Grandma.
He said he would have given away the store if it weren’t those “meddling kids”{meddling progressives}.
I’ve been thinking about Obama’s “I don’t care if I’m a one-term president” line. Some around here have suggested that this is all just a ruse so he can be defeated and go make the big bucks.
If so, it’s also a royal “fuck you” to Democrats. If Obama doesn’t want to be president any more, GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE WAY so we can nominate a “real” Democrats, who could win against the lunatic Republicans.
Instead, we get Obama The Serial Killer dismembering the Democratic party and its ideals and burying them beneath the shed.
ref BooRadley@104 link: 50/1 leveraged fraud means there is nothing there, which is also the case with the Social Security trust fund; talk about deficit!, who’s going to “eat them peas”?
Republicans are stupid (part2): If the republicans could get over their hatred of Obama they would realize he is the best weapon they have when it comes to wrecking the democratic party and dismantling our social safety nets. He is an inside agent doing more damage than a Romney or Palin ever could! This will continue until progressives have the guts to tell him that not only are we not going to campaign for you we are not going to vote for you either. This is the only way he is going to change before the election. I think the democrats and progressives are making a serious mistake in reelecting him in 2012 without the accountability of being reelected. He has shown us who he really is it is time for us to accept it and move on without him.
Even in kabuki theater you must set the right tone. Our Great Representative Obama is out of Character because he failed to set the tone which help creates the play. He now sounds allot like Chicken George W. Bush with better sentence structures and speech patterns .
I look fondly on the time the Brits had a 105% rate (marginal effective on last dollar) on dividends at the top.
Studies show behavior change does not kick in below 70% – when you have everything not having everything plus one causes no reaction.
Greed by paid management and the incompetent who manage their assets does not improve the economic results achieved by society as a whole. Greed motivates, but it is the workers in the trenches that produce the income – the board room produces the results of the who is in control of the company game and little else.
he is talking about military cuts only in the sense of paying a contractor one million every 6 months for one paid guard to do the work that a soldier does for $30,000 a year.
Indeed the Bush cuts in the “size of government” (meaning manpower) were via contractors taking civil service and military jobs at twice the cost.
A few days ago I saw a snippet of an Obama campaign comment in which he said he would not raise the SS age or change benefit calculations, but right now I can’t find it.
Anybody know which comment I’m talking about and where to find it? (Need to rub in some Obots’ faces.)
Thanks.
Didn’t those bot trolls tell us yesterday that Prez never said it? It’s deja vu all over again!
Who’s turning 50 next week? Not Obama. He’ll be 50 on his next birthday, but that’s not until Aug. 4, which is next month.
Obviously, the solution is to pass the free trade deals he campaigned against in ’08 and displace more Americans.