Good morning BT and firepups,
This meeting on Thursday with the members of Congress is more kabuki for us to swallow although most of us have caught on to the game playing.
Any change to Medicare, Medicaid, or SS and I mean ANY change at this time is a win/win for the Republican terrorist strategy.
I do not care if the change is on the provider, hospital side or the recipient side, the Republicans will have won.
I know what you are doing on searching other sites. I do the same thing and it has been a really slow morning on this site for some reason.
Boxturtle, I know you are right on the Repubs already winning but I really wish the Dims would look at NY 26 and realize they have the winning side of this issue.
Florida real estate being bought up by foreign buyers just before it (and Florida) becomes ocean bottom as sea levels rise somehow does not bother me all that much except, of course, that we (and our children) all will be suffering the effects of global warming to a greater or lesser degree as they keep unfolding.
It is not surprising to me that those same formerly hyper-inflated Florida real estate market areas have taken the biggest percentage drops in value, either.
US corporations don’t want to be near the bottom in taxes paid, they want to be on the list of countries where corporations pay no taxes and receive refunds, like GE.
The real crime of the Anthony trial is that the plight of abused children in the US will, once again, be ignored. Not that it was highlighted during the trial. People I heard never mentioned abused children in general but were quick to condemn Anthony from what they heard/saw on teebee.
Turned off DeMint on MOJO when his “job creators” went unchallenged.
The uber-rich are not “job creators”—to them jobs are just another expense, to be cut, to be outsourced, to be scapegoated. The rich could reduce their taxes by providing jobs—a deductible expense.
But no, the uber-rich are money misers who do not invest in their own companies, they look for breaks and subsidies on the backs of the workers already serfing with declining-value paychecks.
Reject the frame, debunk the frame—kick the poll-tested Luntzwords in the cojones.
In order for them to “win,” they must not let Barry “win” in any way. That is, they cannot give up anything that will allow him to claim “victory.” So when he calls then to the WH, they must say beforehand that there will be no tax cuts.
He is trapped. He must now give them something that is more important to them than an apparent “win” at this stage. For example, they could give up a few unimportant tax loopholes in return for a reduction in the corporate tax rate. At this point, he’ll give away anything for a “win.” Meaning, of course, anything he can tout as a “win.”
This should remind you of the last time this happened. Get out the K-Y.
The Regressives will vote “No” on raising the debt limit no matter what. With new demands coming from them every day, eg, lunatic Randian Paul’s balanced budget Constitutional amendment, they’re backing themselves into a corner. Minnesota is just a sample.
We have gotten to the point, as one of my Obamabot friends says, that anything is okay to do as long as he gets re-elected in 2012. Anything. Huge cuts in Medicare and/or SS can now be justified to get him a “win.”
he could “give in” to the Rs on a tax holiday — so long as it’s on a regressive tax (like the payroll tax). the Rs could claim victory, O could claim victory and it would be good for working people and the economy.
that is if the fate of country and ordinary americans played any part in the deecee games. oh well. :(
Something is totally messed up with the links to previous posts. On the last post by attaturk, I clicked on the comments button and it took me far, far away. So I clicked on the read more button, and it took me to a different place far, far away.
Replying to Econo@18: We were at that point the moment Obama arrived at the White House after his coronation.
He’s planning on raising $1B for re-election. He needs banker money. Now his AG can’t find anything criminal in the forclosure mess. Nor can he find anything criminal in the CDS’s.
Boxturtle (Given that he couldn’t find anything to related to torture to charge, I’m not suprised)
For person grossing $26K per annum that would put 28.25 a week back into his/her pocket. Not a fortune by any stretch of the imagination but it’s better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.
There was a time I would have agreed with that. But now I think it is part of a death by a thousand cuts. Cut the tax today and you reduce the funding and you will create a problem in the future either bc (a) the repub will never allow it to be repaid or (b) they will want it to be permanent.
From your first link:
Would instituting capital punishment for such an obscene level of hypocrisy be going overboard?
Good morning BT and firepups,
This meeting on Thursday with the members of Congress is more kabuki for us to swallow although most of us have caught on to the game playing.
No it would not imho.
Good morning hotdog.
Any change to Medicare, Medicaid, or SS and I mean ANY change at this time is a win/win for the Republican terrorist strategy.
I do not care if the change is on the provider, hospital side or the recipient side, the Republicans will have won.
And a pleasant morning to you. Sometimes it takes me a while to reply, I’m usually off looking for good news, and these days, that’s time consuming.
Instead of capital punishment, I have a much more evil idea.
Make Obama explain it to his daughters.
Boxturtle (After all, ther’re the ones who will pay the price for his decisions down the road)
The GOPers have already won BIG. Lucky for us, they’re too stupid to grab the deal and go home.
Boxturtle (Or perhaps tea is as corrupting as koolaid)
I know what you are doing on searching other sites. I do the same thing and it has been a really slow morning on this site for some reason.
Boxturtle, I know you are right on the Repubs already winning but I really wish the Dims would look at NY 26 and realize they have the winning side of this issue.
There’s a flaw in your plan: Obomba’s bad decisions are paid for with other people’s money, other people’s health, and other people’s children.
Morning Pups,
Florida real estate being bought up by foreign buyers just before it (and Florida) becomes ocean bottom as sea levels rise somehow does not bother me all that much except, of course, that we (and our children) all will be suffering the effects of global warming to a greater or lesser degree as they keep unfolding.
It is not surprising to me that those same formerly hyper-inflated Florida real estate market areas have taken the biggest percentage drops in value, either.
Mornin’, BT, pups
US corporations don’t want to be near the bottom in taxes paid, they want to be on the list of countries where corporations pay no taxes and receive refunds, like GE.
The real crime of the Anthony trial is that the plight of abused children in the US will, once again, be ignored. Not that it was highlighted during the trial. People I heard never mentioned abused children in general but were quick to condemn Anthony from what they heard/saw on teebee.
I am outta here for awhile, time to go get a haircut or else I will need a dog license.
Have a great day everyone.
Yes, there will be beer. The Republicans will be served Blithering Idiot from Weyerbacher Brewing Company.
Reject the predicate, debunk the frame.
Turned off DeMint on MOJO when his “job creators” went unchallenged.
The uber-rich are not “job creators”—to them jobs are just another expense, to be cut, to be outsourced, to be scapegoated. The rich could reduce their taxes by providing jobs—a deductible expense.
But no, the uber-rich are money misers who do not invest in their own companies, they look for breaks and subsidies on the backs of the workers already serfing with declining-value paychecks.
Reject the frame, debunk the frame—kick the poll-tested Luntzwords in the cojones.
In order for them to “win,” they must not let Barry “win” in any way. That is, they cannot give up anything that will allow him to claim “victory.” So when he calls then to the WH, they must say beforehand that there will be no tax cuts.
He is trapped. He must now give them something that is more important to them than an apparent “win” at this stage. For example, they could give up a few unimportant tax loopholes in return for a reduction in the corporate tax rate. At this point, he’ll give away anything for a “win.” Meaning, of course, anything he can tout as a “win.”
This should remind you of the last time this happened. Get out the K-Y.
Yeah, I know. They’d vote against apple pie if Barry baked it.
I WISH he’d give away something for a win. As it is, I think he’s paying the GOPers to take it.
Bohica.
Boxturtle (Bend Over, Here It Comes Again)
The Regressives will vote “No” on raising the debt limit no matter what. With new demands coming from them every day, eg, lunatic Randian Paul’s balanced budget Constitutional amendment, they’re backing themselves into a corner. Minnesota is just a sample.
We have gotten to the point, as one of my Obamabot friends says, that anything is okay to do as long as he gets re-elected in 2012. Anything. Huge cuts in Medicare and/or SS can now be justified to get him a “win.”
We’re in really dangerous territory here.
A corner that they know the Ds will let them out of — when they vote for and take responsibility for the spending cuts.
The Tom Moore Republicans are determined to put every worker back on the plantation, deep in the mines, back to the hardscrabble.
Unfettered capitalism–welfare for the wealthy, anarchistic nonregulation–is the golden calf they worship.
Does put the Vichycrats in a ticklish position, doesn’t it? We could very well see a repeat of Nov 2010.
Soylent Green writ large.
he could “give in” to the Rs on a tax holiday — so long as it’s on a regressive tax (like the payroll tax). the Rs could claim victory, O could claim victory and it would be good for working people and the economy.
that is if the fate of country and ordinary americans played any part in the deecee games. oh well. :(
Not meaning to blogwhore for my daughter, who blogs very infrequently, but she was moved by the trial and verdict to write this:
Light a Candle
Something is totally messed up with the links to previous posts. On the last post by attaturk, I clicked on the comments button and it took me far, far away. So I clicked on the read more button, and it took me to a different place far, far away.
Replying to Econo@18: We were at that point the moment Obama arrived at the White House after his coronation.
He’s planning on raising $1B for re-election. He needs banker money. Now his AG can’t find anything criminal in the forclosure mess. Nor can he find anything criminal in the CDS’s.
Boxturtle (Given that he couldn’t find anything to related to torture to charge, I’m not suprised)
Edited to add reply as reply button seems fubar.
Of course, that would increase the deficit, not decrease it. Quite a bind 11-dimensional Barry got himself and us into, isn’t it?
For person grossing $26K per annum that would put 28.25 a week back into his/her pocket. Not a fortune by any stretch of the imagination but it’s better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.
I can remember the days when an extra $28 a week would have seemed like a fortune.
That’ll almost getcha a fifth of semi-drinkable tequila to black out the reality of it all.
We need some game-changing trump cards to float down onto the table today…
Me too. When I joined the Navy in 1961 they paid a whopping $100/month.
Republican economics is the rebellious adolescent of civilization.
Fortunately the Koch brothers have sucked enough from the govt teat to underwrite the propaganda that will tell us their p*ss is rain.
It won’t come close to buyin’ a jug of the cheapest single malt scotch.
Maybe Larue can hook us up with something in a mason jar.
Reminds me of an adage from the 60s:
With booze ya lose, with dope there’s hope. *g*
God’s Own Drunk – Jimmy Buffett
Off to swim in the great capitalist cesspool.
US KIA Afghanistan: 1,650
US KIA Irak: 4,469
Iraki, Afghan and Pakistani casualties: estimates vary to over 1.5M
US MBS 2010: 23,064 and counting
No war but class war
Never. Give. Up.
Be good to yourselves, and all other living things
Namaste
Those jars are good for keeping all kinds of stuff, aren’t they? :-)
Keep your head above the sludge.
There was a time I would have agreed with that. But now I think it is part of a death by a thousand cuts. Cut the tax today and you reduce the funding and you will create a problem in the future either bc (a) the repub will never allow it to be repaid or (b) they will want it to be permanent.
Isn’t that the truth.
Yeah they defintely do.