Eric Kingson is a professor of social work at Syracuse University’s School of Social Work and a Senior Research Associate in the Maxwell School’s Center for Policy Research. He also served as an adviser to President Obama on Social Security for the 2008 campaign and the transition team.
Don’t know about the rest of you 50+ folks, but it’s time for me to burn my AARP card.
Have to start by saying that I like and respect many people who work for and serve as volunteers for AARP.
An article by Laura Meckler in today’s Wall Street Journal reports that “AARP, the powerful lobbying group for older Americans, is dropping its longstanding opposition to cutting Social Security benefits… The shift, which has been vetted by AARP’s board and is now the group’s stance, could have a dramatic effect on the debate surrounding the future of the federal safety net, from pensions to health care, given the group’s immense clout. “If they come around and say they’re ready to do something, it will be like the Arctic icecap cracking,” said former Sen. Alan Simpson, co-chairman of a White House commission on the deficit. (see Link here )
AARP’s position is extremely damaging to the future of Social Security and to the many baby boomers it is working hard to entice into its membership and engage in many of the services it sells and sponsors.
Two reasons… Bad policy Given the economic challenges facing today’s older people, especially those approaching retirement, we should be doing what we can to focus policy discussion on how inadequate the nation’s retirement income system is to deal with the very serious risks (health care costs, lack of LTC protection, job losses, declines in values of housing and occupational pensions, IRAs) confronting those in retirement and those who will soon be. Instead of seeming to position itself as a reasonable inside deal maker that is open to benefit cuts, AARP should be educating about the need to selectively improve the one economic security institution that works quite well (SS).
Bad Strategy for those wanting to protect Social Security. Even if one believes that some ground may have to be ceded at some pointt on Social Security, it is terrible negotiation strategy to signal a willingness to compromise before negotiations are joined. And even if AARP is open to compromise on Social Security, it should be doing absolutely everything it can to make sure that no action is forthcoming this year when Social Security policymaking has been so thoroughly and falsely conflated with deficit politics.
Well, I suppose we should not be too surprised about AARP’s willingness to compromise its constituency. After all, AARP
– Hawks health, auto, motorcycle, home, mobile home, long-term care, dental and life insurance; besides offering discounts and incentives for travel, eyeglass, hearing aid and many other services;
– Sells annuities, mail order prescription drugs and credit cards and has seven no-load mutual funds;
– Has one of the largest mailing lists in the nation and publishes one of the nation’s most widely circulated and lucrative magazines etc. (continued…)
From an organizational maintenance perspective I suppose it is expected that AARP would, first and foremost, function to protect its many institutional and corporate interests. Still, it’s unfortunate to see the “800 pound Gorilla” of aging organizations play such a cautious and stand-offish game. While I would prefer to believe otherwise, it seems to me that, on balancem AARP places much more value on its ability to be an inside player and to maintain its reputation as a deal maker than it does on the needs of older Americans
And so, sadly and with respect for many good people associated with AARP, I have decided to make the supreme sacrifice and “burn my AARP card” and recommend that others consider doing so as well. No more AARP discounts, free Magazines with Katie Couric, Sally Field, Michael Fox, Goldie Hawn, Condoleezza Rice, Robin Williams, Robert Redford, Harrison Ford and others emblazoned each month on its cover– all fine people but hardly typical of the nation’s very diverse population of boomers and elders. Oh well.
Fortunately, there are a couple of organizations out there — the Alliance for Retired Americans and the National Committee to Preserve Social Security and Medicare — which maintain an advocacy focus more supportive of the protections provided by Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. For those also inclined to “tune out and drop out” of AARP, maybe its time for us through our various networks, blogs and organizational involvements to encourage others to do so as well. And, with AARP being so wavering in its support of elders, hopefully, two outstanding organizations — the Alliance for Retired Americans (www.retiredamericans.org) and the National Committee for the Preservation of Social Security and Medicare (www.ncpssm.org ) — will find opportunity to further build their already substantial memberships and with it to become even stronger advocates for today’s and tomorrow’s older Americans.



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Never was tempted to join AARP. Somehow my gut identified them as bad guys long before there was any evidence.
Good gut.
Flashy, pricey, come-on crap they send in the mail, no? There’s the first clue that they ain’t what they purport to be…
I’ve never joined, either. They seem to me to be too much status quo…
My gut is symmetric. It’s surprisingly accurate about identifying flakes. O is another example of that.
But many people or orgs I think are good guys turn out to have feet of clay. Juan Cole being the latest examples.
The rich can buy anything in this country, including the AARP and WH.
I did join for two years. When I started getting all the junk mail about insurance plans, etc. I decided they were not working in my best interest.
What the heck do they think they are doing by working against the people they are supposed to support!!! I guess we all need to go on a letter writing campaign. Sheesh! These jerks are totally indescribable.
I suppose if I think carefully about it, I might be able to identify clues. Another one, besides what you point out, was their gigantic bldg in D.C. that I saw every time I came in from the airport for a day of appointments. Having a big bldg in D.C. strikes me as making you part of the Beltway crowd, not the peeps crowd.
AARP is useless now. They send out tons of mail most of which wants you to donate, subscribe to something, or to sell you something. Glad I don’t belong any more.
I’ve become so cynical that I just assume everyone’s an asshole until they prove otherwise. I should clarify that I don’t treat them like they’re an asshole — I do reserve final judgment — but I just assume that they are. That way, life is a pleasant surprise. Once in a while.
never joined, just an insurance brokerage
Yup, that sort of setup ain’t cheap…
I do like to get real information, so I don’t automatically make your assumption.
Is this revelation in the newspapers? It is imperative that the newspapers get this on page one.
Oh, I forgot. Newspapers want to become the dinosaur artifacts of the 20th Century.
I did also. Every time I decided to join, another part took over and rescinded the urge!
Those people are absurd!
It is generational warfare. They are protecting the benefits of those who are currently retired, at the expense of those who are not yet retired. It is like unions going to two tiered benefits.
Ecahnomics is usually right with the instinct. I can attest to that. Always the twooph coming from that keyboard/comments.
Oh, I’m empirical also. My null hypothesis is just a little more cynical than most.
AARP is just another globalist astroturf puppet. How does this corporate espionage work? Petey Peterson must have promised AARP as an organization would get to help privatize Social Security, with great payoffs. AARP is already in the insurance industry as a competitor to Social Security.
The individual AARP leaders have been paid off by Peterson obviously. Ha! Ha! Never would want to join, because I always knew AARP was controlled by thieving rats.
Freedom Works head Matt Kibbe is on CSpan now. You have to see the sideburns on this dude. Old West if you ask me. All he needs is a hat and bandana.
Speaking of thieving rats: Did you see the article about the great insider trading by Paul?
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/06/17/paul-ryan-s-shrewd-budget-payday-congressman-could-benefit-from-tax-breaks-he-proposes.html?om_rid=CZthPx&om_mid=_BN$0xzB8by7dGP
Here’s the deal. Any time an organization like AARP or the Farm Bureau, initially organized for arguably worthwhile purposes, gets to the point it begins selling insurance to its members, stick a fork in them.
When all the ads came the first year, I suspected something. Then came the AARP acceptance of GWB’s donut hole prescition drugs the following year.
I was done after 1 1/2 year with AARP. They still send me literature and I still send back their mail saying thanks but no thanks.
I think this article is late in coming, but I want to thank you for the alternate organization names. I shall look into them.
The AARP hasn’t been working in the best interests of seniors since the cave on Medicare Part D (the “Donut” hole lapse in prescription coverage).
Anybody know if veal-penned cattle moo?
Thanks for this. Part of me suspects that it’s a trial balloon — they’d love to make the jump but aren’t sure how much flak they’ll get for it.
Let’s make sure they get LOTS of flak. Write your local newspapers. Forward this article to everyone you know. Spread the word.
Don’t you think the fix is already in?
Oh, FDL writers have been on AARP’s case for quite some time:
http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/tag/aarp/
http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/05/aarp-endorses-house-health-care-bill/
http://my.firedoglake.com/teddysanfran/2009/12/19/aarp-to-score-cloture-vote-on-hcr-will-naral-now-planned-parenthood-counter/
Interestingly, the one time AARP actually dared to lip off to a Catfood Commission member, it was because he was so hamfisted in his assault on Social Security that they were left with no choice but to do so: http://news.firedoglake.com/2010/08/25/aarp-simpson-comments-undermine-deficit-commission/
This makes really great fodder for my social movements classes this summer. I’m really glad Eric brings up the issue of organizational maintenance. I think it’s spot on to invoke the iron law of oligarchy. AARP’s model is turning toward a servicing rather than an organizing model of a citizen lobby. With threats to its constituency’s security, it needs to shift to the latter.
Oh, they want it to be in, but they’ve also seen what happened to the GOP on Medicare — publicly pushing the Ryan budget is what gifted the Dems with Chris Lee’s old CD. Plus, the AARP is still smarting from the number of people who left them — and were public about WHY they left them — after the donut-hole betrayal.
That’s why they haven’t publicly announced it yet. Note the lack of on-the-record comments, aside from Simpson’s, on this issue. If there’s an immediate an intense backlash, they’ll suddenly announce that this is not the case, the WSJ writer was misinformed, yadda yadda yadda.
All this damn veal everywhere – it’s time to start munching on ‘em.
Start Here:
Wouldn’t hurt to hassle Betty White’s agent either, as she’s doing this big ad campaign for AARP:
I burned my AARP card after they had Kindasleezy Rice on the cover of their little mag. They also supported that dough-nut hole thing, too, remember? They cave and fade on issues like too many of our elected Dems.
AARP is on board? Crap then cuts to SS is a done deal this is manufacturing fake grass roots support. This is burning every card you have regardless of the cost to AARP long term.
The Powers that be want this want this allot. The Lake should get a petition going of members burning their AARP cards and spread it to the other Lefty blogs.
Us and the other blogs should hammer this point repeatedly we need to break AARP. Even if we cut 5% of their membership its a win. Its time to slay a dragon.
Younger people like me can sign and ask that AARP never call or mail them!
Bless you.
How strong is this move to cut SS has the MSM brought in Tweety, Chris Mathews to say its a serious policy idea yet?
Thanks Kelly! Let me go get the last couple things they sent me and I can post up the Insurance Companies.
These people supported the Bush Medicare Part D program because they could sell policies through of all companies, United Health Group. Any fool could see this program was designed for two purposes only, to funnel Medicare funds to the pharmaceutical industry, and to begin the destruction of Social Security and Medicare so this day would come. Ted Kennedy bought the bullshit too. Now they’re agreeing to the result they helped to bring about. Money really is the root of all evil!
The real professional left (politicians, pundits, et al) have spent the last 30 years accepting every right wing myth being sold on economic, financial, and military matters, and look where this country is now. Yet they keep doubling down with the same neo-liberal and neo-conservative policies that have almost destroyed this country, why, because Obama’s in the White House. Yeah, its the man initiating the policies, not the destructive policies themselves.
What’s the definition of insanity; doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result. By this definition, we have an almost completely insane nation.
Sounds good to me!
A person can join AARP when they are 51. That means you don’t have to be retired to be a member. People who are still working and have an income have more money to give them than those who are retired and living on social security.
Therefore, it is in their best interest to keep people working longer by raising the social security age.
There is Nothing on the AARPs web site supports the Wall St article, and this issue is so explosive that despite the AARP’s penchant for
gouging seniorsselling products and services to seniors. I doubt they’d deliberately shoot their customer base.This is the Wall St journal, that well know progressive newspaper, and part of News Corp, that well know diligent seeker and reporter of truth.
They are after all part of “Fail and Balanced.”
Where have you been? There behavior is NOT new. Don’t you remember what they did in 2006?
That’s why we need to squish it now. The wounds they got from the backlash over their donut-hole betrayal are still paining them, so a loud and massive reaction now can stop them in their tracks and send them running the other way.
Here’s one they use for Supplement plans:
United Healthcare Insurance Company
P.O. Box 25601
LeHigh Valley, PA 18003-9905
1-888-349-4134
I never joined either, I figured any group that wanted me bad enough to send junk mail every month of the year is not an organization I want to belong to (HT Groucho).
New York Life
P.O. Box 30709
Tampa, FL 33630-3709
That’s why it’s a trial balloon.
It’s being floated to see if there will be any negative reaction such as was received over the donut-hole betrayal. If there isn’t, or not enough of one to bother them, they’ll announce it next month — just in time to give the Democrats and Republicans deficit-cutting cover in order to prevent a default. If there is, they’ll come out with folks speaking on the record this time, denying everything and saying that the WSJ writer must have been mistaken.
We call them predators.
AARP is united health care, what else is there to know. The time to burn the card was when the President colluded with them in August of 08.
Not sure about that, but certain they are fluent in moolah.
Did Obama threaten AARP’s insurance business? Or did Pete Peterson bribe individual leaders?
Snoopy’s address, finally! I’ve been wanting to write him and see how his fight with the Red Baron is going.
good morn
no wonder that macabre bucket of scum isnt sweating his golden years
Extinction Burst
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extinction_burst#Extinction_burst
The one thing all these veal-penners have in common is the love of their “brand.” Tarnish that, hurt their brand, and hard.
It’s one thing they can’t stand.
Pete Petersen is on the board of directors I think, the shadow board anyways.
Oh and here we go with The Hartford Insurance Group. That is their ad for auto insurance.
Did not join.
Won’t now.
I know! Now we can never eat Oscar Meyer products again!
“AARP is on board? Crap then cuts to SS is a done deal this is manufacturing fake grass roots support.”
Welcome to Obamacare redux – astroturf provided at no extra charge.
Bingo — AARP’s support for Medicare Part D pushed it through. This is a clear signal, and very bad news.
Mmwhaa! Morning to you too.
I’ve gotta run. Will be back around 1:30 my time.
this UNITED HEALTHCARE?
United Healthcare paid its CEO 1.6 BILLION in stock options
http://www.startribune.com/business/11093081.html
Anyone think that’s excessive? Must be a LOT of money in for profit healthcare. It would be a shame to spend that bonus money on things like procedures and medications for policy holders or use it to reduce costs, wouldn’t it?
It’s pretty obvious they’ll take away everything in time.
These groups would rather have the lolly than do the job they created themselves to do. I never wanted anything to do with AARP. For one thing, I didn’t need them as I’m on Medicaid and have watched the cuts over the past 13 years.
They act like Medicaid hasn’t already been cut to the bone by Bush and the HMOs who, apparently will NOT see a cut in their “managed care”
Medicaid either pays or it doesn’t and if it doesn’t, we pick up the tab. And I figure Obama will go for SSI first. They seem to think the kids, the poor, and the severely disabled don’t/can’t won’t vote…..if that’s even a factor anymore.
Meanwhile, corpse like AARP sit on tons of cash, making the recession worse. so much for “trickle down”
I’m busy making appointments to see my doctors BEFORE they take the axe to the root of the tree of Medicaid. And take heed, it’s going to be soon.
Bi-Partisan Entitlement Reduction Efforts Focusing On Deep Cuts To Medicaid
Let’s see how THIS flies with Mr. Dictator and his enabling friends on the right:
Democrats offer plan to reduce drug costs
So, I wonder how they’ll justify subsidizing big PhRMA again while people die?
( Sigh ) I remember the good old days at the Lake when I was part of the tin Foil hat crowd….now I find I am just not Paranoid enough.
They [The organized criminal attempt to end the "New Deal"] think they are so sophisticated. What troubles me is that way back in the 80′s they [AARP] made just the lamest effing commercials. And for some crazy reason, people bought into it. Imagine my shock that they became one of the largest senior organizations in the world 10 years on! I think some investigative journalism on this bogus advocacy groups origins is in order!
Just because you are paranoid, doesn’t mean they aren’t after you…
Would like to burn my AARP card and quit, but this needs to be part of a highly-publicized movement. Please keep up with this and post how we can do this to greatest effect.
Thanks.
Been getting their cards and crap in the mail for years. It’s my view they are just like anything i see advertized on tv. Not worth buying.
im convinced they have the evil .rapacious thinkers in a room,plotting how to steal EVERY resource in the world….Today Germany caved to the IMF on Greek debt…Americans head the IMF now
HAHAHAHAHAHhaahahahahahahahahahahahaha
what journalism?
Just called AARP to complain. They are fielding calls on this issue. Told them straight out there was no point in paying dues to an organization that’s not going to fight for me. Call them!! Threatened to leave. They understand money. They are nothing without members. Time for folks to get into the street–walkers and all.
We should get Matt Taiibi on it.
Or as Lily Tomlin said, “No matter how cynical I get, I just can’t keep up.”
Aaaaaand even certain Daily Kos diarists are all up in arms:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/06/17/986125/-AARP-Sells-Out-And-Caves,-Calls-for-Benefit-Cuts
financial/health circumstances forced me to become a member a couple of years ago so i could get on united healthcare (while holding my nose)
now i shall use every scrap of paper i receive from them as an opportunity to write back & let them know how i feel about their positions.
i will also send out an email to my (over 200 person), list suggesting other people do the same….. as well as forward the email to their contacts.
my guess is the newer AARP members (in their 50′s & 60′s), will take action while the long standing members couldn’t care less. there wasn’t much pushback to AARP from those folks when the bush admin got the donut hole legislation passed.
yup,there is a guy able to do the job
Did the person at the other end have anything to say about it?
good on ya!
Done.
Called the 800 number and emailed them at: member@aarp.org.
Told them there’s no way I would renew my membership, based on their stance on Social Security.
Even if you aren’t a member, you should take time to hassle them. This move on their part will have an effect.
Bastards.
I don’t get it, they ALREADY cut the bennies with the No COLA for 3 years.
If there’s not money in it why is Wall Street hungering for it so. Maybe they figure to split it between WS and the MIC
wheres Al Gore with the lock Box
someone will abscond with the whole damned thing
You got it, Wall Street is so fucking bankrupt, the only way the Shadow Banking System can cover it’s bets is to raid the 2.7 Trillion in SS! They are like Meth addicts raiding your medicine cabinet for anything that can stop the cravings.
Actually they need like 52 trillion dollars, but 2.7 will be a good buzz!
In 2008 AARP Services received $652,000,000 in royalties from insurance companies, PLUS $120,000,000 in advertising. And to think that millions of individuals pay “dues” to be members of this organization. When was the last time you actually paid to be on a marketer’s mailing list? What a scam!
AARP: All About Rich People
The AARP is always identified as a lobbying group for senior citizens. It is no such thing. It is a company, for profit, which basically sells insurance. The AARP is THE reason we have the “doughnut hole,” but typical of this duplicious oeganization, they then claim to fight against it. They are like many liberal senators who seem above reproach, but whose record works against progress. EG, Sherrod Brown.
On the other hand, AARP gives discounts, and I and others need them. We haven’t had a COLA increase in SS for two years, and even if we get one this year, which is unlikely, it will be wiped out by increase in medicare premiums. Of course, another myth is that medicare is free insurance for seniors. Hah.
This still up on AARP website:
http://www.aarp.org/work/social-security/info-08-2009/keeping_Social_Security_strong.html
“Social Security Values
Throughout the debate over how to strengthen Social Security, AARP is going to fight to ensure that any final plan is based on these critical values:
You will receive the benefits you’ve earned over a lifetime of hard work if you pay into Social Security.
Your guaranteed Social Security benefit will keep up with inflation for as long as you live.
Your spouse will be protected and you will receive a benefit if you become disabled and can no longer work.
Your family will be protected if you die.
“The Wrong Conversation:
Some people in Washington, D.C., are talking about cutting Social Security to balance the budget. Social Security is self-financed by payroll tax contributions, which are separate from the rest of the budget, and has not created the current fiscal mess. It shouldn’t be used to fix a deficit it didn’t cause.”
Wanna play “Find the Weaselwords?”
I’m 62, I never got the idea that they are protecting/ helping me in any way. I quit when Thom Hartman informed us that AARP had been taken over by a fat cat republican during the Bushitler years. Nothing to do with my generatioon versis other generations IMHO.
Be sure to grab a screenshot!
If the benefits of current retirees were being threatened, you would see a completely different reaction. It is not just AARP. This country is now on two tiers.
Just sent them a nasty email.
Jesus 52 trillion, really.
You are correct, originally I didn’t quite understand what you were getting at. Once I get my benifits I still plan to fight for others to get theirs.
The AARP is a DINOSAUR who best days are behind them
The AARP has made another huge mistake here!
The current economy demands that groups like the AARP make very, very, smart decisions.
Those wishing to start groups that really represent the elderly of the USA, now have the information they need to destroy the AARP.
AARP should have learned this simple lesson, you either fight the DEVIL “WALL STREET” or you become the DEVIL.
Bye, Bye, AARP
Obama is going to destroy numerous VEAL PEN groups.
Great new organizations are being built as we speak, that will change the political landscape for the better.
FDL thank you!!!
People thought Bush made the Professional Left get organize?
Obama actions are having a bigger impact, because OBAMA lack of Kabuki skills are making people wake up, who did not care before!
The AARP has made a big mistake here! they have no idea the HELL coming there way! LOL
You should have burned the card when AARP opposed single-payer healthcare.
I gave up on AARP when they took a dive on Medicare Part D. What took you so long?
AARP has been taken over by the right-wingers! Need to start a petition boycotting AARP!
AARP now has a press release out refuting this story in the Wall Street Journal:
I feel AARP has been in the lap of big business for years, but it’s interesting to see how quickly they they came out to try and change the impression given in the Journal. I read the press release and it doesn’t say they are against any changes in Social Security; it’s very carefully worded.
The link I inserted above is missing. I’ll try again:
A handful of people should not make the decision that affects millions. Let the members decide what should be done by a vote by the people that really count.
Taking a page from Obama’s playbook to cave before being asked to, is not the way to encourage more seniors to sign up.
Memberships can be cancelled via the link/address/phone number below.
http://www.aarp.org/contactaarp /
Call 1-800-424-3410
Monday – Friday
8 a.m. – 8 p.m. ET.
Write AARP at
601 E. Street NW
Washington, DC
20049
Well, the links are not appearing in my posts. I don’t know what the problem is, but you can read the press release on AARP’s main webpage, scroll to the bottom of the page and select “PressCEnter” under “Press & Media”.
This is completely erroneous! AARP does not support cuts to social security! I do not know where the author of the WSJ article recieved her information. I am an AARP volunteer advocate in my state, and have gone to the capitol to hand out and discuss info to/with the senators regarding opposing cuts to Social security. AARP is fighting very hard to protect social security, medicare and community service funds. Again, this is erroneous, and I hope when the truth comes to light, it will receive as much passion from your followers as this information has.
I can never understand why people find aarp so passionately distasteful. They do send out an enormous amount of mailings this is true, (I am 41 and recieve a lot) but the business side and the advocacy side are two different things. The business side funds the advocacy side. As for the prescription drug programs, it seems as though everyone is in the game, Hell, even Walmart has a “plan”. what you may not realize is that their insurance policies are not issued by them. It is no different than an employer getting cheaper rates by having more employees.
call it old, useless, past it’s prime, whatever, but please get educated on the subject first…
AARP Has Not Changed Its Position on Social Security
Reaffirms that program must be strengthened to maintain critical benefits
WASHINGTON – AARP CEO A. Barry Rand offered the following statement in response to inaccurate media stories on the association’s policy on Social Security:
“Let me be clear – AARP is as committed as we’ve ever been to fighting to protect Social Security for today’s seniors and strengthening it for future generations. Contrary to the misleading characterization in a recent media story, AARP has not changed its position on Social Security.
“First, we are currently fighting some proposals in Washington to cut Social Security to reduce a deficit it did not cause. Social Security should not be used as a piggy bank to solve the nation’s deficit. Any changes to this lifeline program should happen in a separate, broader discussion and make retirement more secure for future generations, not less.
“Our focus has always been on the human impact of changes, not just the budget tables. Which is why, as we have done numerous times over the last several decades, AARP is engaging our volunteer Board to evaluate any proposed changes to Social Security to determine how each might – individually or in different combinations – impact the lives of current and future retirees given the constantly changing economic realities they face.
“Second, we have maintained for years – to our members, the media and elected officials – that long term solvency is key to protecting and strengthening Social Security for all generations, and we have urged elected officials in Washington to address the program’s long-term challenges in a way that’s fair for all generations.
“It has long been AARP’s policy that Social Security should be strengthened to provide adequate benefits and that it is sufficiently financed to ensure solvency with a stable trust fund for the next 75 years. It has also been a long held position that any changes would be phased in slowly, over time, and would not affect any current or near term beneficiaries.
“AARP strongly opposed a privatization plan in 2005, and continues to oppose this approach, because it would eliminate the guarantee that Social Security provides and reduce benefits, and we are currently fighting proposals to cut Social Security to pay the nation’s bills.
“Social Security is a critically important issue for our members, their families and Americans of all ages, especially at a time when many will have less retirement security than previous generations with fewer pensions, less savings and rising health care costs. And, as we have been for decades, we will continue to protect this bedrock of lifetime financial security for all generations of Americans.”
One last try on the link
AARP Press Release
I see Chunkiemunkie has posted the text above.
No one can come right out and make a blanket statement against changes, they say in there that they do not support changes that would negatively effect people. they also say they are fighting proposals to cut SS.
I did the same thing. If they start getting tons of email and phone calls perhaps they’ll pay attention….then again, maybe not.
I meant to also point out that sometimes change is thrust upon you, in a compromise kind of way. a person might support the “lesser of two evils” in order not to get screwed out of more. KWIM?
also, i am in no way affiliated in a paid capacity with aarp, I am simply a volunteer in my state. my thoughts and comments are my own and in no way should reflect upon aarp.
No offense, but it is sad they way everyone is reacting to an erroneous news story like “Henny pennys” going off half cocked, loaded for bear with the wrong directions…..
I don’t think that reacting to a story in the Wall Street Journal should be characterized as “henny penny”. We’re not talking National Enquirer here; it’s a highly-respected (among the elite) publication that usually has it’s facts, if not it’s opinions, straight.
Because you, as is the leadership of AARP, are in the depths of corporate sponsored delusion.
It is class war. It is a criminal conspiracy and AARP as an organization, belongs to Petey Peterson.
When AARP gets targeted by the government, as many of us have been, then I will respect them. That will never happen.
Just after the Medicare D debacle I had a social circumstance in which I discovered a young person was an AARP staffer and got to ask what was going on. I got an explanation and then I said “Why are you still working there?” The response was that the person had to have a job to live. So folks, with an economy structured to support war and all these Veal Pen organizations that just support that, young people have few choices and end up reinforcing the structure. We have got to completely change all of that!
“shouldn’t”? As in, it shouldn’t, but will.
Hopey Dopey Lesser Of Two Evil Change Thrust Upon The Lesser People.
That happens to be the Obama campaign theme. What a coincidence.
Give in to the hostage takers. Is this official AARP policy? You are very funny.
If you haven’t seen it yet, this essay by Joseph Stiglitz published in Vanity Fair is a must-read to understand what is going on right now and why. Put simply, Republican partisans and their enabling Democratic counterparts are the least patriotic, least civic minded people in the country. They are all about selfishness and greed.
“Of the 1%, by the 1%, and for the 1%”
http://www.vanityfair.com/society/features/2011/05/top-one-percent-201105
I have to say that phrases such as “…that Social Security should be strengthened to provide adequate benefits and that it is sufficiently financed to ensure solvency…” do not instill a great deal of confidence in AARP’s dedication as they are buying into the Peterson folks framing.
All that is necessary to “strengthen” Social Security is to remove any cap (currently at $106k of earnings) but that is too simple for the powers that be and go against the grain.
I haven’t belonged in years and while I’m pissd at the treachery, I’m not at all surprised. I do recall how quietly and reticently they dipped a few toes into the health care bill lash-up, and then how quickly and quietly they faded away. AARP flew its colors then. My sense is that some people belong to get AARP’s insurance rates and not for much else. How loyalty driven is their membership?
You know who I miss? The Gray Panthers. In their heyday, they had a voice.
I spent over 30 years working for defense subs. Flatly, if the American taxpayers got 30 or 40 cents on the dollar’s worth of usable goods and services, they can count themselves lucky. But that’s what paid the bills, altho not well, I can tell you. We bottom dwellers in the system didn’t see the largess.
No offense, but…I see you are newly registered. Just today, in fact. Hmmmmm.
WSJ: “”The ship was sailing. I wanted to be at the wheel when that happens,” said John Rother, AARP’s long-time policy chief and a prime mover behind its change of heart.”
What do you suppose that means?
Not to belabor the obvious, but… when a rag like the WSJ prints something like this, with direct quotes, it is a trial balloon for what the corporatist world is planning. The corporatist world, of course, includes the Obama Administration, AARP, the Cock brothers, and …you?
There is no way the WSJ prints that quote without AARP’s knowledge. This comment thread is actually quite restrained and well reasoned, given what the WSJ article says and what anyone with half a brain knows it means. The trial balloon must be terminated with extreme prejudice.
You’re not dealing with clueless morons here. Back off.
Hell does not feel that good does it AARP
The AARP is trying to walk back their Statement saying they are o-kay with cutting Social Security.
“Talk is Chunkimunkie” is a new member to FDL just join today, so he could lie for the AARP. LMAO!
the question we must ask? is what force or forces made them do this? LOL
ChunkieMunkie “Obama like Bush is helping the left Organize”
We look at the USA RICH the wrong way.
Being RICH does not make one SMART.
It is safe to say the SUPER RICH in the USA are dumb as Hell.
AARP is no longer needed, their MORONIC leadership will help a real Organization that cares about the Elderly RISE! THANK GOD!!! LOL
ChunkieMunkie what purpose does the AARP now serve?
Why not build a true ORGANIZATION that Defends the Elderly, and Fights Wall Street? because the AARP has loss it’s way.
I’m a member. (Pile on, I don’t give a shit.) I called and said if it’s true, I want to cancel my membership. The nice lady said it’s not true, AARP is going to respond, she didn’t know when so I told her I would wait to read their response.
Edit: Oh, I see their response above. I am troubled by the “strengthen” part. Meh, maybe I won’t renew next B’day. The lady said their phones are ringing off the hook, so they may have to walk it back further.
Three words: Medicare Part D.
They’ve sold out before, and they’re quite capable of selling out again.
Exactly. In fact, I predicted AARP’s response earlier this morning. (Of course, as gesneri points out, they left themselves lots of wiggle room to try it again. My bet it they want to do it in the next few weeks, to give the Democrats in Congress permission to gut Social Security AND Medicare AND Medicaid in order to “fix the deficit” and avoid the debt ceiling.)
From their press release which you posted:
The mere fact that they bought into the bogus “Social Security’s solvency is in danger” story shows that they’ve positioned themselves for some time to advocate Social Security cuts in order to “save” it.
Beat me to it – so I just posted a whine at the WSJ about how their story said nothing – no hint at what change AARP was OK with.
I suspect they will eventually be on board an increase in the retirement age 40 years from now to offset improved mortality, simply because that is the only change that is logical (other than getting rid of the wage cap and including investment income in the payroll tax) and required by the math if Social Security is not to become an ever growing larger tax on earnings.
It is not AARP selling an “Social Security’s solvency is in danger” story – it is “ensure solvency with a stable trust fund for the next 75 years”
The stable trust fund wording changes the point – but I agree with you that the word “solvency” should not be used because when there is no trust fund the program continues – it is not insolvent – it just pays out 75 to 80% of what is currently promised in the law. It can never payout more than it takes in once the Trust Fund is gone.
But I can not find even one story in the media where solvency is not used in the explanation for what is proposed.
The whole thing is that nothing at all needs to be done to Social Security, other than keeping the “reformers” mitts off of it.
Here are the simple facts: Predictions of Social Security’s doom are based on grossly pessimistic growth projections of around 1.9% a year over a seventy-five-year period. That’s essentially predicting that the US economy will be in a deep depression for seventy-five years. But, so long as the economy averages 2.7% growth over a seventy-five-year period, enough revenue comes in to keep Social Security running forever — and when you know that the seventy-five-year period from 1929 to 2004 (a period that includes the whole of the Great Depression) had a growth average of 3.6%, you get to understand just how ridiculous is the idea that Social Security could ever be insolvent unless the economy really did suffer a back-to-the-stone-age kind of collapse, at which point Social Security would be the least of our worries.
I burned and Peed on my AARP card years ago..they are bought and sold…like a lot organizations these days: They are in it for themselves…
Just chiming in to add that I never joined AARP either. Their mailers go directly to the recycle bin.
This is the letter on AARP WEBSITE
AARP Has Not Changed Its Position on Social Security
Reaffirms that program must be strengthened to maintain critical benefits
from: Press Center | June 17, 2011
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
June 17, 2011
Contact: Media Relations
(202) 434-2560
AARP Has Not Changed Its Position on Social Security
Reaffirms that program must be strengthened to maintain critical benefits
WASHINGTON – AARP CEO A. Barry Rand offered the following statement in response to inaccurate media stories on the association’s policy on Social Security:
“Let me be clear – AARP is as committed as we’ve ever been to fighting to protect Social Security for today’s seniors and strengthening it for future generations. Contrary to the misleading characterization in a recent media story, AARP has not changed its position on Social Security.
“First, we are currently fighting some proposals in Washington to cut Social Security to reduce a deficit it did not cause. Social Security should not be used as a piggy bank to solve the nation’s deficit. Any changes to this lifeline program should happen in a separate, broader discussion and make retirement more secure for future generations, not less.
“Our focus has always been on the human impact of changes, not just the budget tables. Which is why, as we have done numerous times over the last several decades, AARP is engaging our volunteer Board to evaluate any proposed changes to Social Security to determine how each might – individually or in different combinations – impact the lives of current and future retirees given the constantly changing economic realities they face.
“Second, we have maintained for years – to our members, the media and elected officials – that long term solvency is key to protecting and strengthening Social Security for all generations, and we have urged elected officials in Washington to address the program’s long-term challenges in a way that’s fair for all generations.
“It has long been AARP’s policy that Social Security should be strengthened to provide adequate benefits and that it is sufficiently financed to ensure solvency with a stable trust fund for the next 75 years. It has also been a long held position that any changes would be phased in slowly, over time, and would not affect any current or near term beneficiaries.
“AARP strongly opposed a privatization plan in 2005, and continues to oppose this approach, because it would eliminate the guarantee that Social Security provides and reduce benefits, and we are currently fighting proposals to cut Social Security to pay the nation’s bills.
“Social Security is a critically important issue for our members, their families and Americans of all ages, especially at a time when many will have less retirement security than previous generations with fewer pensions, less savings and rising health care costs. And, as we have been for decades, we will continue to protect this bedrock of lifetime financial security for all generations of Americans.”
For more information, visit http://www.aarp.org.
About AARP
AARP is a nonprofit, nonpartisan organization with a membership that helps people 50+ have independence, choice and control in ways that are beneficial and affordable to them and society as a whole. AARP does not endorse candidates for public office or make contributions to either political campaigns or candidates. We produce AARP The Magazine, the definitive voice for 50+ Americans and the world’s largest-circulation magazine with over 35.1 million readers; AARP Bulletin, the go-to news source for AARP’s millions of members and Americans 50+; AARP VIVA, the only bilingual U.S. publication dedicated exclusively to the 50+ Hispanic community; and our website, AARP.org. AARP Foundation is an affiliated charity that provides security, protection, and empowerment to older persons in need with support from thousands of volunteers, donors, and sponsors. We have staffed offices in all 50 states, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands.
Just cancelled my AARP membership. It feels like a colon cleanse.
Ok, first off I am a woman. (just sayin’) Second off, i am sorry I my new status has awakened the conspiracy theorists.lol… I just found this site while reading articles for work. I am the directer of a small aging services agency, that is why I am attempting to remain anonymous.
I am not trying to call anyone clueless, nor a moron. I am saddened that my opinion causes me to be berated. I am not the problem here, I am not wealthy, far from it. I see day in and day out people who make 500-700 dollars social security a month, who are losing benefits over paperwork snafu’s.
I guess what I am trying to say is, I am not “the man”, I am in no way in support of any cuts! Again, I support leaving benefits alone!
I only posted here because I am a passionate advocate for the elderly, seeing first hand everyday the hell heaped upon them in the middle of this bi-partisan pissing match.
I guess I am an idealist in two ways:
1. I see the aarp chapter here doing a lot of good on our state level. I am not ready to give up on them..yet.
2. I thought I still lived in a society where we value diverse opinions, and where it was still ok to have an opinion that might not be popular.
I take umbridge with being told to “back off”. Why is it so threatening that I suggest we continue to educate ourselves. Telling me to back off like I am encroaching upon your property or personal space. What is it about me having an opinion, (right or wrong it is mine that is why it is opinion and not fact..lol) that does not match yours? I do not begrudge you yours.
Thanks Chunkie for showing that it sure sounds like AARP wants to cut Social Security benefits:
“It has also been a long held position that any changes would be phased in slowly, over time, and would not affect any current or near term beneficiaries.”
“I am in no way in support of any cuts! Again, I support leaving benefits alone!”
Great! So you too oppose AARP’s Social Security position.
Part of the problem is (IN MY OPINION) 1.they should raise the amount we youngers (again I am 41) pay in. everything else goes up, insurance, product, etc. our contributions should keep in time. I think that when they stop the fraud and waste, they can save ALOT of money to funnel back into the budget. …. 2.They probably have to be a little vague with change, some might have to take place. It cannot be all one side or another. They might have to push retirement back. that would be a much better plan than raising the debt ceiling….(again, i am 27 years from retirement). compromise can be ugly. right or wrong, left or right, i just want what is best for our seniors…..
IF aarp’s position is to cut social security to solve the “debt crisi” HELL YES. Any cuts would be detrimental. All I am saying is that there may come a time where seomthing is conceeded for the greater good. do I like it? NO. do I support it? NO. But then the problem too is that legislature often “throws a bunch of solutions against the wall to see which one sticks”….sometimes a finger gets cut off to save a hand, and yes I oppose it and I am angry. The big picture is, we should not be in this predicament to begin with!!!!
I was talking about us as henny penny’s. whilst they may be usually right, occassionally they are not…I was not referring to the WSJ there.
lol wow. that is all that I can say wow…deluded? no, idealistic, maybe..lol
sheesh did you read my comment, I am not aarp. man, you people are hateful. so much for free speech. life is not black and white.
“IF aarp’s position is to cut social security to solve the ‘debt crisis’”
So you allegedly work for as a director for an aging center and you’d be for cutting Social Security as long as they justification isn’t “debt crisis”?
“All I am saying is that there may come a time where seomthing is conceeded for the greater good”
How is cutting Social Security good?
“The big picture is, we should not be in this predicament to begin with!!!!”
Then you should burn your AARP card because they are putting seniors in that predicament to begin with by saying they’re for cutting Social Security.
thank you for being the only person so far to approach me with education rather than hate. i respect that.
“I am not aarp”
You’ve said that you’re affiliated with them.
“so much for free speech”
Yes, it’s a shame you want dissent from you silenced.
oh my god i am not aarp!! I am in no way supportive of cuts. I do not have an aarp card. for the 100th time, I am 41. I am entitled to an opinion. I would sure love more factual information on this, but I have only recieved one, everyone else is far too happy to berate me rather than educate me to you opinion.
what does that even mean?
i want dissent from me silenced?
when you actually become a senior and life has run out of lemons for lemon aid, maybe your thoughts and opinions would carry more weight.
I am an advocacy VOLUNTEER. I only do that because I have seen them doing good. I am new to it at that. wow again berate or educate?
Just called and told them that I would be looking for an organization that supported the strengthening of Social Security, not undercutting it. I asked her if AARP was blind to the fact that the Got.Ours.Pissoff. party was waging all-out war on the elderly, children and the poor of our country. She said that the NYT article was a ‘misrepresentation’.
I just speak for myself. You are supporting and defending that Insurance company called AARP.
Two years of Social Security theft and AARP is helping carry the loot for Petey Peterson. Conspiracy fact, not theory. Petey made a vow to use his $600 million from the insurance on WTC 7 for evil. Instead of 9-11 victims, Petey promised to use his terror profits to steal then destroy, Social Security.
I would advise you not to say “you people”. It suggests you are a right winger.
Just raise the damn income cap. That is the bottom line. No discussion needed. Jesus I am sick of Republicans. And puling, quisling Democrats.
I actually wasn’t responding to your post. I was just sharing something I thought was insightful. You’re welcome nonetheless.
Discussions here are usually civil. I haven’t read every exchange you’ve had on this thread, but I haven’t noticed any hatred directed at you in the ones I have read. You can expect to be challenged on what you post, but it would be a stretch to call that hatred. It’s just some back and forth to discern what is and isn’t the case. You are entitled to be treated with respect and I hope that you are.
This is fucking unreal. I just joined AARP to get the publications, but I’m out of there.
wow! I work to provide lemons for lemonade. I am proud of what I do. My parents lost their home and stood in line for commodities, so I see the pain, day in and day out.
Welcome to FDL chunkie and what happens when one doesn’t support the party line here! No worries, it’s not you. I was once told to go back to romper room and worse when I stated a Sense of the House statement in a piece of legislation didn’t mean what the proprietor said it did. Turns out I was right. Never heard an apology or an admission of who was in error.
I stand corrected, I meant some people of this site are treating me rather hatefully. So, maybe I am supporting the good that I have seen done. all that I can attest to is what I have seen. I am relatively (ok, very) new to this job and am trying to educate myself to all of this the best I can. Thank you for that example, I will google and read the story and educate myself further..
Thanks, I appreciate that. :)
I guess it was just a matter of time before I was lumped in with the freeloading public workers. Personally, I like the AARP. The discounts, auto and home insurance, credit cards, I loved all of it. Money always gets in the way of good things.
Social Sec and Medicare are really sensitive hot-button topics and FDLers are passionate.
I just saw a TV spot from AARP opposing cuts to SS and MEdicare/MEdicaid….what nonsense, another Clintonlike double talk
thank you. I love a good yet civil debate. I appreciate being educated not told to back off, and being made the “face of” what everyone is railing against or that because I am not a senior, my opinions don’t hold weight. LOL…. :) whatever.
ah…. me too….I just think of the big picture….washington has screwed it all up and left us cussing and fighting on chat boards….I think this is just a “look…over there…..” strategy. lol
I was not hateful unless you are Petey or AARP sellouts.
But we should recall that Obama was selling us out one month into his Presidency. Obama was already conspiring with Petey to steal Social Security to pay for their Wars and their Police State.
Hedge Fund Billionaire Pete Peterson Key Speaker At Obama “Fiscal Responsibility Summit,” Will Tell Us All Why Little Old Ladies Must Eat Cat Food
Thank you for the info…. hateful may have been the wrong word and I apologize to all. Maybe overly harsh? That might be better. lol.
I don’t doubt that some groups or segments within the AARP do great things for senior citizens. However, there are conflicts and disagreements within any organization so don’t make the mistake of dismissing the signals sent out by AARP’s leadership. Unless I am mistaken, AARP’s leadership or legislative wing deals directly with the powers that be in Washington D.C. If the AARP leadership sells out senior citizens on Social Security then the entire AARP organization has effectively gone in favor of benefit cuts.
The “grassroots” part of AARP that directly interacts with senior citizens are not at fault here. The leadership is at fault and the AARP leadership should be replaced ASAP.
AARP is just another troubling example in which the leadership of an organization that’s supposed to represent the interests of the people has effectively sold the people out. Other good examples are the universities, labor unions, media, and Democratic Party. The leadership of these organizations should be fired immediately and replaced with TRUE progressives who won’t sell out.
Financial advisers love it, too. The issue is AARP’s pose as a public interest advocacy group, which it largely isn’t. Hasn’t been for a long time. Years ago AARP and Alan Simpson tangled over just this point and AARP backed down because it didn’t want to lose its tax protected status. The die was cast then.
Toll-Free Nationwide: 888-OUR-AARP (888-687-2277)
Email: Member@AARP.org
Can’t wait for Monday’s WSJ headline:
AARP UNLEASHES SHITSTORM
BTW, one term, Barry. (Via Soullite at Susie Madrak’s Suburban Guerrilla.)
I called today, got the Bety White automated voice for the automated menu, took a couple tries to get a human. The woman answering the phone was lovely, sounded very concerned. took time to type in gist of my comments, thanked me, etc. Did not have any firm statement to read or report to callers.
Remains to be seen what AARP is really up to.
ABC News this evening said big internal fight led to group adopting what WSJ reported, only worse. Higher retirement age for full benefits, higher payments by workers, lower benefits (iirc the items flashing by; ABC didn’t have those points in their write-up, so I need to check back later).
I joined AARP 15 years ago; at that time they were doing good things and the yearly fee was low. I cancelled my membership when they let BushBoy have the stupid donut hole in RX coverage.
I just joined again bcz their supplemental and RX were the best plans for me at the best rates here in NJ. Now, I feel like crap for doing that. And I need the health insurance coverage. Drat and crap.
But this is the organization once again dumping on their membership and sucking up to…well, I’m not exactly sure who they’re sucking up to since they also have those tight Big Bidness ties…. Gee, maybe they’re actually motivated more by their corporate objectives than those of their members….
Heh.
As I told you to “back off” I claim the privilege of responding.
First, if you want umbridge, take it.
Second, you are clearly a nice person doing good work. Best to your parents.
Third, you said above, “…it is sad they way everyone is reacting to an erroneous news story like “Henny pennys” going off half cocked, loaded for bear with the wrong directions…” It was clear that you meant that the WSJ story was in error, and that the FDL community overreacted before getting the facts (i.e. the AARP retraction) straight. That seems a little inconsistent with your later statement, “What is it about me having an opinion,…I do not begrudge you yours.”
Fourth, no doubt there are lots of AARP employees and volunteers doing good stuff at a people-to-people level. But as an organization AARP has become a marketing machine. It is not an advocacy organization.
Fifth, AARP’s “retraction” doesn’t wash. They are a very sophisticated organization. When their national policy director gives a quote to the WSJ, he knows exactly what he’s doing.
Most of us here understand that the class war is on, we didn’t start it, and we’re losing. Educate yourself and pick your side. Trying to be neutral or “balanced” or “civil” supports the corporatist war against the middle class and poor.
No Goldie Hawn? You’re asking a lot, dude.
I’m not exactly itching to be AARP material, anyway, to tell the truth. I’d feel like a captive market.
Today Saturday 6/18/2011, I just notified AARP to Cancel my membership as a member from 2006… I percieve AARP only now to be an Insurance ploy to hurt elderly members and I refuse to be a member to this…. smile :-)
So continue to do the job right, and ASSUME that the report in the Journal was conditioned by the fact that Rupert Murdock owns the company.
Rupert Murdock is the villain here, not AARP.
Congratulations. You now get your “mark” badge in the mail from Rupert Murdock, for falling for the lie.
So what did that quote say? It didn’t say they were caving on anything. It said they wanted a seat at the table, didn’t it? What’s wrong with that? Is there a better place to advocate from?
I sent this letter below to AARP
June 18, 2011
To: ALL AARP Executives and Representatives
From: Darrell H. Prunty
Deleted Personal Address For Security Purposes
Subject: Stop Sending Me AARP Membership Application Packages
Dear AARP Executives & Representatives:
Stop sending me Membership packages, I don’t want to be a member of an organization that does not look out for my best interest, but instead, side with the Republican social programs cutting hawks, in the name of preventing to tax the wealthy to help balance the outstanding national debt that the Bush Administration created by raging to un-paid wars in the middle east, when President Clinton left office, we we’re in a surplus, but President Bush took the surplus and spent it on national security based on lies and deception and let the rich and organizations get away with not paying their fair share of taxes, now the Republican Congress cut hawks want to balance the budget, on the backs of the elderly, children, the poor, the working poor , the middle class, and the disabled.
You did the ultimate betrayal to your members and future members, by opening the door to cuts on security benefits, raising the retirement age, and reducing cash benefits, and reduced annual COLA payouts, you sold out the highest bidders for your own greedy self-interest and self-fish motives as well, if you sleep with dogs, you sure will catch flees, meaning if you in any way agree with the Republicans on beginning the process of ultimately privatizing Medicare and the Social Security safety net for present and future seniors, then you’re in total agreement with them in my opinion.
You can try and spin this any way you please, people are not stupid to this, you have turned on your own loyal membership for in some shape or form of long-term financial gain, We don’t need to support and organization that’s not on the up and up and not advocating for us seniors 100% with no room for compromise in cuts with the Republican social program cut hawks.
The best way to show how your members are upset and displeased with your decision to back and give political coverage to politicians wanting to change or cut Social Security and Medicare benefits on the backs of Seniors and the Disabled is hitting you financially in your pocketbook, meaning no new members should join your organization through dues or volunteerism, your current member should burn or chop up and throw away their membership cards and then contact you and let you know their disgust and disappointment for your actions towards helping politicians slowly chip away from Social Security and Medicare. and then ultimately play a role in the privation of these two great programs that have worked for many decades. You not only hurt present seniors but seniors to be far in the future. You no longer need to act like you are an advocate and protector of Seniors, but be who you really are, that is corporate insurance hawks just wanting folks money with no real advocacy for them.
I will only change my mind in not supporting or joining AARP if its Executives publicly State and prove that they no longer support in any way changing and/or cutting Medicare and Social Security benefits, raising the retirement age, preventing Seniors and the disabled from receiving annual cost of living increases, and throwing Seniors and the disabled under the bus in the name of profits and helping the rich and organizations maintain their wealth with no shared sacrifice to help pull this Country out of debt is un- American and un-Christian like as well. I never want to join AARP whose Executives opened the door for making any changes or cuts in Medicare or Social Security that is the ultimate betrayal of its present and future members.
Sincerely,
Darrell Prunty AAS BS MS