Last week, RevBev suggested self-care as a topic.. I thought it was a great idea! I have some inexpensive suggestions for keeping your immune system healthy and for keeping your skin in good shape, too.
First, it’s important to remember that your skin is your third kidney… assuming that you already have two kidneys. Otherwise, it might be your second kidney. A great tip for both your lymphatic system and your skin is to buy a long-handled brush with natural bristles. My health food store sells them for about $10-$12. It’s a pretty inexpensive way to keep healthy. No plastic or other unnatural bristles, please! Natural bristles are good for your lymphatic system and help to exfoliate your skin… if you keep your skin exfoliated, it is better able to remove toxins from your body. In addition, if you start at your extremities and brush toward your heart, beginning with your feet and legs, then you will help to activate your lymphatic system, which does not have a pump and needs a bit of help to keep going. Don’t brush away from your heart, as that puts some strain on your blood vessels, as well as on your lymphatic system. Your lymphatic system moves toward your heart before it empties out any toxic wastes from your body. Remember that! And brush toward your heart, beginning with your lower legs and forearms. I like to start with my feet, since they sometimes bother me a bit in the mornings. You can brush straight down on your back, though. This is something you should do before you take a shower or a bath. It removes dry skin and gets your lymphatic system moving. It’s not quite like a cup of coffee, but it does help you to wake up in the morning. More like a cup of tea than coffee.
Last spring, a friend of mine was pretty sick. Her glands were swollen and all kinds of stuff was coming up… so I bought her a long-handled, natural bristled brush… and a bar of chocolate. I figured the antioxidants in the chocolate could not hurt. Later, she told me that one of her daughters wanted one, too, so I picked up another one. They both seem to love using these brushes. I’ve bought brushes for other friends, and family members, too. Following are some links you can check out, but feel free to Google for the “benefits of dry skin brushing.” Don’t read just one or two links… read a bunch of them, since they all have different emphases.
http://www.jashbotanicals.com/articles/skin_brushing.html
http://www.osmosis.com/post/80535-the-benefits-of-dry-brushing
http://store.annabellina.com/dryskbr.html
http://www.intentonchange.com/Lymph.html
http://dryskinbrush.blogspot.com/
http://www.healinglifestyles.com/index.php/jan2008-spaandbeauty-spaalacarte
There are quite a few lymph nodes in your thighs, and under your arms, and in your neck. I also brush behind the knees for some reason… and I try to brush the front of my thighs twice each time. Also, when I wash in the shower, I use one of those nylon net thingys with bar soap or a body wash and I use the same motions then, working from the extremities toward my heart. Why put any strain on either your blood vessels or your lymph nodes? The same thing when I put on body lotion… I work from the extremities toward my heart.
Nearly a year ago, I had a colonoscopy and I had no polyps. I am pretty sure that following this procedure nearly every day was part of the reason. Whenever I don’t have time to dry brush in the morning, I still work from the extremities toward my heart with that nylon net thingy… and when I am putting on body lotion.
And, another thing you can do is to take Vitamins C and D every day. Women tend to need more of Vitamin D than men do, and can usually tolerate up to 5000 I.U. each day. The more Vitamin D you take, the less calcium you need. For women this is especially important. An orthopedic surgeon told me about this protocol… and I mentioned to him that I have a hard time with supplements, because of the fillers in them. He said I could take the Vitamin D in drops, which is less expensive, and that I could take the Vitamin C in powdered form. So, I buy both at the Vitamin Shoppe, rather than my usual health food store, and I put them in about a cup of water. Both are good for your immune system and Vitamin D also plays a role in preventing certain types of cancer. I live in a northern climate and we just don’t get enough sunshine throughout the year to get Vitamin D in that way, so taking this every day is a pretty good way to keep healthy.
The Vitamin C costs about $10 and lasts for quite a while… the Vitamin D costs a little bit more, but when you consider how expensive health care premium contributions are, they are really a bargain! And The Vitamin Shoppe carries the D3 type of Vitamin D, and in a single dosage drop that equals 5000 I.U. And I just discovered that Amazon also has a less expensive version of the Vitamin D3.
Another thing I started a couple of years ago… after having all of the metal fillings in my mouth replaced… was eating coconut milk yogurt. It’s good for both your immune system and your digestive system. In countries where coconuts are plentiful, they often give coconut water to very sick children. Coconut has amazing healing properties. When I was having that dental work done, I was already skin and bones and then lost another 19 pounds, but I started eating that yogurt with every meal and I gained enough weight to look like a normal person. It also helped my absorption problem and I am no longer anemic. Now, I’m eating one a day… sometimes and extra one at night. The company that makes it, “So Delicious,” also makes ice cream and coffee creamer and they make both refrigerated and non-refrigerated versions of coconut milk. They make a soy yogurt, too, but I cannot recommend that one, since soy does not know whether it is a protein or a carb and is difficult to digest for many people. I use both almond and coconut milks for cereal or for making cocoa when the weather is cold, but mostly I use almond milk for the cocoa, and add just a little bit of the coconut milk. The coconut milk is pretty good in hot oatmeal, too. If you have a problem with saturated fats, you may wish to discuss it with a doctor first.
Coconut milk has a wonderful fatty acid: Lauric Acid, which is tremendously healthful and beneficial to your body’s immune and digestive systems. I even have longer eyelashes now that I ever had before and I think my hair has become a bit thicker, too. Coconut oil is also wonderful for your skin and hair. Here’s a link that describes its benefits, but feel free to Google for the benefits of both coconut oil and coconut milk.
Another thing I do when the weather is cold is make soup. If you were not here the last time we discussed soup recipes, here’s the link for my vegetable soup. There’s nothing that warms you in the winter like soup, and I tend to use lots of root vegetables in mine. They have a lot of trace minerals, which are important for good health. I bring it to work to share with some of my coworkers… though not right now, as the weather is a bit warm for making soup. More recently, I decided to allow the onions to sweat in butter, rather than olive oil, since butter makes them a bit sweeter. I learned that while watching “America’s Test Kitchen.” And I also started adding green beans to my soup, since one woman at work says that green beans keep the corners of her mouth from cracking.
I also have a condition called “dry mouth,” which causes a breeding ground for bacteria. I recently changed my toothpaste to one by Jason… it’s called SeaFresh and contains some salt. Bacteria cannot live in salt, and at my last checkup, the hygienist said my mouth looked pretty good. I’m going to keep using that same brand. I am supposed to be using my hydro-floss machine every day, but sometimes I skip it. It’s a bit like a water pik, except that it alkalinizes the water, which is better for your mouth. I also drink alkaline water… mostly Iceland Spring, which is not very expensive. I pay $1.85 at the Giant Supermarket for a pretty large bottle of it. Alkaline water washes acidic wastes from your body and helps you stay healthy, too. Acidic wastes can cause disease or other chronic conditions. I read about alkaline water in a book by Felicia Drury Kliment, “The Acid Alkaline Balance Diet.” That may have been another reason for my clean colonscopy last year. You can Google for the pH factors of different bottled waters. Deer Park is neutral. Fiji water is slightly alkaline, but Iceland Spring is a bit more alkaline, and it’s less expensive, tool
What do you do to take care of your health? Do you have a special routine that you follow every day? Please share any helpful tips with us… given the health care situation in this country right now, we all benefit from sharing healthful information.



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Good mornining, Fire Pups!!!
Is anybody here?
Good Morning, Fantastic….I could tell you knew alot. Look forward to a brush.;) Thanks so much.
Hi, just got thru reading the post, sounds really pleasant to some one with dry skin. Especially green beans to avoid cracks in the corners of your mouth. Never heard that before. I also use the net scrubbers for baths.
Where do you get the hydra-floss? Does it actually floss?
Good morning all.
good morning, pups.
i do something similar to your dry brush routine. it was recommended by my macrobiotic consultant. it’s called a body rub and is done before or after the shower. i collect hot water in the sink and wet and wring out a washcloth and rub all over my body with the washcloth. it takes about 10 minutes and makes me feel great. i also give myself a head rub when i’m done with the washcloth.
i’m taking about 2000 iu of vitamin d in drop form.
other than that, i mostly eat grains and vegetables with some beans and some fish and some sea vegetables (when i’m being good). it pays off for me to do this as i have more energy and more equanimity and i’m healthier when i do it.
and now that the temperature and humidity here are not fit for humans, i try to walk or do yardwork early every morning.
I bought it my dentist’s office. They may be available online, too.
Amazon has them. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=hydrofloss
same here, after noon it’s really too hot.
Thanks….you have become my guru…;) So interesting.
When you do your routine, just make sure you work from your extremities toward your heart. There’s no reason to put any additional strain on your blood vessels or on your lymph nodes.
Good Morning, KarenM
Wow, that’s a lot of great information, and most of it new to me.
I think pups are busy reading before they reply.
KarenM, I think this is one of your best threads ever. Really well written too!
Kudos to RevBev too for the great suggestion.
Good morning, KarenM and pups! I want to go back and read the links and the entire post before I comment further. Looks fascinating! And I’m going to have some (frightfully expensive) acupuncture and would like to get some info on that later, too. Demi reminded me that you (KarenM) have written about acupuncture, which I had forgotten.
Oh, no! I can’t be a guru! I do give a couple of friends at work advice about what to eat, on occasion. One friend has celiac and was putting benefiber into her coffee. I told her that benefiber has wheat in it. It didn’t always have wheat, but they switched… I guess because wheat is cheaper. She was eating two yogurts a day after that, too, and was really uncomfortable with stomach cramps.
Another friend has the same birthday, but does not have celiac. She eats some yogurt every day and tries to get in some fiber, too.
I bought one of those at my dentist’s office as well when I changed to a holistic dentist a couple of months ago. I’m embarrassed to admit it, but it’s still in the box. My plan is to take it out of the box and start using it. I also plan to get rid of the mercury/amalgam fillings. Have you noticed any differences since you got them out of your mouth?
I haven’t been doing it that way, but, when I do it this morning, I’ll try that. Thanks for the tip.
Hi, has it dried up some for you yet?
Health has always been an interest of mine, even though I do eat some junk food.
Back in the 70s, I used to read Adele Davis. I just could not do everything she suggested. Wheat germ and brewer’s yeast, among them, but I learned a lot from her. When I eat an orange, I don’t remove all of the pith, because that’s where the bioflavonoids are.
I did an acupuncture session to see if it would help my pinched nerve, but the girl who did it was too heavy selling me stuff, I didn’t get anything but another sort of massage, no pain, from the routine. Probably will not do it again.
Yes! I no longer have that absorption problem. Mercury is pretty toxic… it interferes with digestion and sleep and all kinds of things.
I also got a UTI at that time and had to take some antibiotics. Those always mess up my stomach, but that coconut milk yogurt really helped me out.
Don’t get all of those fillings removed at once, as I did. My dentist said my teeth could not wait. It’s best if you remove one or two a year, so that you don’t become really sick as I did.
Edit: I am pretty sensitive to foreign substances in my body. I can’t even use benadryl. I just bought some homeopathic eye drops last night, since I am having some mild allergy symptoms in my eyes.
The brand is Similasan.
Hi, Ruth. Do you mean acupressure?
Some acupuncturists are always trying to pad the bill. Try to find a community-based one with a sliding scale. You might like that better.
Yes, all dried up. All the long grass (aka hay) has been mowed into small enough bits to mulch into the lawn.
Now we need some rain again for the perfect situation. Looks like we’ll get some today.
How’s the season developing by you?
Don’t let other people set your agenda. We all have obligations and responsibilities outside ourselves, but we all know when our boundaries have been breached and you have to speak up and draw the line. As a friend put it, “You have a right to your own power.”
thanks, i have one on one side and three on another side. i’d planned to do the one first to see how it went and then do the other 3 all at once, but i’ll rethink that idea of doing the 3 all at once.
I support my health in many ways but one thing I’ve found to be indispensable is a daily vitamin D supplement. We evolved out in the sun in equatorial Africa and though there have been some adaptations among some groups, really we were designed to be outside 24/7 so we need to artificially ingest what our bodies would otherwise naturally make. Darker skinned people especially in higher latitudes should make vitamin D a routine part of their day and lighter skinned people who work indoors should as well.
Good morning.
The things I have suggested are very inexpensive and useful… and for those without health insurance, they can help you to stay healthy.
I’m wondering about the pointed warning away from plastic bristles. Aside from the obvious concerning plastic itself, would that not be better than nothing?
So far as exfoliating, relaxing in a tub of warm water and using a loofah after allowing the dead cells to loosen works really well for me. Especially on my feet. I have to finish off with a washcloth to really get between the toes.
As for making soup, I could not function well in the kitchen without it. I usually make enough to cover cooking with it as well as savoring it directly.
I’m not a vegetarian, so my broths contain meat products, mostly chicken.
Ask your dentist to use a dental dam, too. That keeps the gas from entering your throat and causing further harm.
Plastic bristles are really not good for your skin. Please use a natural substance. A loofah is fine, too.
A natural-bristled brush is only about $10 or $12… pretty inexpensive for something you might use every day.
I make vegetarian soup because I live with a vegetarian and one of my coworkers is also a vegetarian. I often add some chicken to my own soup.
I embarked on my own reclaim my health campaign when my health insurance went away. I’ll never let myself go like that again, even if I have the best health coverage imaginable.
Red wine at lunch seems to work for me.
I love a good soak and my favorite place to read is in the tub. I usually add some epsom salts. They make lavender scented and eucalyptus scented which my sinuses seem to enjoy.
Sometimes I’ve noticed that the epsom salt drys my skin so I add some baby oil with aloe vera in it.
I’ve never done the dry bristle brush thing, but I’m going to try it. I like to use an apricot scrub on my face and sometimes have used it on my arms.
You can find that D3 at the Vitamin Shoppe (maybe they would even ship it to you) in a single-dose drop at 5000 I.U. Women really do need more D than men do, and if you take more D, then you need less calcium.
My health practitioner is big on vitamin D, but even though I take several hundred units a day, my numbers are still below nominal.
no, it was the needle kind, but soothing like a massage.
Dry again, here. But not like most of the state, in extreme levels. And it’s too hot too early.
Good Morning, Margaret
I recall that you said you have to wait 90 days for your health coverage to kick in, but do you know if they offer a good plan?
I used to read in the tub, but I hardly ever do any more. I have a friend at work who swears by epsom salts, especially the scented ones.
Ah, so.
And, congratulations, again, on being front paged.
You can take thousands of I.U. per day, especially if you live in the North. Those of us who live above a certain latitude need to take a larger dose every day.
I learned this from an orthopedic surgeon, who prescribes these doses for his patients. It was he who told me that I could take the Vitamin C in powdered form and the D3 in drop form.
Make that several thousand units a day!
The dry brush is interesting! I already use a net thingy and shower gel, and body lotion, but I’ve never heard of – or tried – working from my extremities toward my heart. I just scrub or rub. A brush is definitely on my list. I already take calcium, vitamin D, magnesium, and fish oil.
I think I may have mentioned discovering that mint is a natural insect repellant. My son brought me a bar of rosemary-mint soap last spring (a year ago) from London, and I had zero mosquito bites during a long morning planting in my mosquito-infested yard. Since I normally use shower gel, and used the bar soap only when I was planning to be in the yard, it has lasted a long time. Burt’s Bees makes a rosemary mint soap, too. A woman at the Farmer’s Market whose family raises goats sells a variety of goats-milk soap, including a rosemary mint variety, which I plan to buy.
She told me that the main ingredient in most shower gels is sodium laureth sulfate, which is not good for the skin and hair.
I take 3,000 daily.
Heh.
I’d have to take a nap, but what’s wrong with that…
I usually wait til the cocktail hour.
You’re probably taking enough, given that you live in Texas, and probably get quite a bit of sunshine.
It’s not anywhere near as good or as affordable then the one I had but we’ll see how good it is and if I think it’s worth the premium. I know it’s Aflac but I don’t know much about that company yet.
Thanks, it’s been ever more crowded on the front page, so my posts get there less often now – but I’m posting pretty regularly at MyFDL and we’re getting very good submissions from a lot of varied folks. (today I’m telling you about Pueblo Koshare sculpture)
I wonder why a manufacturer would use an ingredient that’s harmful to skin in a body wash? Doesn’t make sense.
Here is a link that mentions some of the side effects of resveratrol.
Can you get a basic or better plan choice? And at least we know Aflac as a corporate body doesn’t let its reps make jokes about folks dying in a tsunami.
For the same reason the Chinese put melamine in their baby food.
Still, it’s got to be less stressful knowing that something will be available, yes?
This is so great and helpful….I have to start some chores, so will check back. Thanks….
I love your helpful hints for happy living! Right on, Karen! And thank you for the brush. <3
Huh?
Dr. Bronner’s soap has insect repelling aspects, but not perfect. That it’s biodegradable has always appealed to me too.
I don’t know the reason for that choice either.
They’re just trying to make a lot more money. They don’t really care about our health.
I use “Kiss My Face” products and “Burts Bees,” too. I also like St. Ives’ products. Their body lotions always agree with my skin. The Swiss really know what to do with herbs. They seem to have discontinued my favorite, “Mineral Therapy,” but have introduced it in a sugar scrub. I love using that.
Gonna do a bee update on myFDL, hopefully later today if it rains.
As soon as I finish my coffee, gonna bike off to the farm stand to get some more strawberries. They are really fabulous this year.
Something I take regularly, as a result of a cardio stress test that didn’t go well is nattokinase, a natural derivative from natto. That, along with an anti-inflammatory cleansing run changed things dramatically.
You are most welcome! I’ll be seeing you pretty soon!
I was googling for the benefits, but found side-effects instead.
Apparently it makes the soap foamy. I have Aveeno body lotion and last time I bought shower gel it is also Aveeno (I buy it at Costco) and I just assumed the Aveeno brand would be better than what I had been using. But the first ingredient is sodium laureth sulfate.
I just went and looked in my cabinet, and my vitamin D is in my calcium supplement and only adds up to 800 IU per day. Yikes! Living in NW Indiana, I sure don’t get enough sun to make up the difference.
The USRDA on vitamin D is woefully low and physicians are trying to get them to change those numbers. Most multivitamins only provide 1,000iu but you need more. I supplement that with a 2,000iu gelcap for a total of 3,000 and as KarenM points out, I live in Texas, right at 30° North Latitude. I’ve been sick much less often since I started that.
Exactly.
There are a few different options. The company pays 60 percent of all plans so it will be interesting to see what price it’s offered to me at.
I don’t understand what your link has to do with what I typed. All I said was that I enjoy a cocktail and don’t know how reserastrol (or whatever it is) relates to that.
Resveratrol is the ingredient in red wine that supposedly has health benefits for your heart. However, you would have to drink a LOT of red wine to add up to the amount needed. I’ve noticed supplements containing resveratrol but I wonder whether they’re really helpful.
The apricot scrub I use is St. Ives.
I recall some product that had sugar in it.
I can’t wait to read that… I’ve drafted a poem called “Hospice for the Earth,” and I mention bees in it.
i believe that’s part of the process she outlined, but i’ll double check when i schedule the appointment.
Red wine, antioxidants and resveratrol
Find a Vitamin Shoppe online… I’ll bet they would ship it to you.
i usually have soup once a day, often miso soup, which is good for immunity.
Look forward to it. Never have done bees, tho they do occasionally find me, enough that I no longer go barefoot much.
Here’s a link with the benefits of resveratrol… it’s a search result.
During the last few years before Medicare, I paid in the high $300 level, but think it’s been exploding since then. Scary prices.
Got it.
I drink for the taste and the psych benefits, not for the physical ones.
I think all those fads in “now it’s good for you,” “now it’s not” are not worth paying attention to.
I’m reminded of an article I read in a NYT supplement many years ago, full of essays on medicine. One was more general, and the thought was: Half of what doctors know is wrong. The trouble is, they don’t know which half.
I agree with that… doctors don’t know much about health, since they mostly study disease… and they get very little in the way of nutrition while in med school.
Most of them still think that saturated fats are as bad as trans fats, but not all of them are.
Red wine is like anything else: Best in moderation and not a panacea. It’s just a part of having healthier habits.
I’ve got it drafted on paper. I actually wrote it on a yellow pad with a ball point pen. How retro is that? The weather has been so nice, I’ve been outside most of the time. My internet doesn’t work outside, and I usually can’t get the computer screen in a position where I can see it properly. (Same reason I hate digital cameras.)
So once I spend some time indoors, it should be easy to finish it up.
I’m off to get some more strawberries.
Be well.
I try to avoid soy, since it no longer agrees with my stomach, but I used to eat quite a bit of it.
Self help tips are so important because, really who is going to take care of us? I noticed a sign in the staff kitchen at work that said Wash your own coffee cup, you’re mother doesn’t work here. I thought it was a rather sexist flyer when I found out that one of the male volunteers put the sign up.
Anyway, about the acupuncture…
I’ve been having pain in my middle back, between the shoulder blades, for a few months. Since I also had a pinched nerve in my lower back (from arthritis) and had surgery last spring, I assumed it was more of the same. It has gradually improved, but while it isn’t debilitating, it is uncomfortable much of the day and night — I only have about two comfortable sleeping positions. I’ve had an x-ray and CT scan which have ruled out fracture or tumor, and my internist says it is very rare to have a pinched nerve in that area of the back.
After my daughter-in-law suggested it, I asked him about acupuncture, and he referred me to an MD in town who practices integrated medicine, Mayo Clinic trained, who does acupuncture. He spend an entire hour with me on my first visit, and I’ve scheduled three sessions, the first next Wednesday. The questions he asked at the first visit dug into my personality and approach to life as well as my physical health.
These sessions are very expensive, and Medicare doesn’t cover acupuncture, so they’re a gamble for me that will put a dent in my budget. I don’t quite know what to expect, but he is confident this will help, maybe as soon as the first session.
Thoughts, anyone?
Sounds like we’re ready for a cocktail hour. That might make another great topic some upcoming week.
We have a Vitamin Shoppe not far from me. I will check it out this week.
I’m not sure of your context: explicate, please.
So the brush that’s used to clean off the barbecue grill won’t work, then? Now I understand where I went wrong…
Morning Sabado Gigante Firepups of Fire.
I usually have a couple of glasses of Shiraz or Cab in the evenings. I don’t get drunk, but it helps me get to sleep, especially now with my back pain.
Ewww, Shoto. And not only is mine wire, it is greasy! YUK.
Doctors don’t know much about disease either.
I used to read the occasional medical “research” article in the NYT. If you skipped to the last paragraph, it would contain a sentence like: There were 132 participants in the study. I.E. a ludicrously small number.
Back in the day when I was in touch with Susan Love, we had several in-depth discussions about this. Medicine & economics have it in common. Both purport to be “sciences” and concentrate on the lab or math aspect as a way of preserving the fields exclusivity, but the end result of all that labor does not do much to promote human well being.
And in the case of economics, as we are seeing, often does the reverse.
Hey Molly… My address has change to (same as) “@gmail.com”
Just an FYI. Feel free to pass it around to other Pups of Fire…and fire off a test, just to make sure we’re on the same page.
I have had tremendous benefits from acupuncture, but I was pretty anemic and really needed something healing… my acupuncturist always balanced out the fluids in my body during each session, and then I’d be back the next month… eventually, I only saw him every three or four months.
Is it possible that you might actually have shingles? It’s a painful rash that is often on only one side of your spinal column. I had a mild case a few years ago and it was pretty painful. That would be a question for your primary care physician.
I find that the greeziness helps to cut down on the scratchiness.
Is that what’s known as a “win-win?”
Yikes! That could lead to wirebrushitosis. A reddening and bleeding of the skin and an odor of barbeque sauce coming from your pores.
Have you tried a massaging back cushion? I really like those.
No they don’t. They always want to know what kind of disease the patient has, rather than what kind of patient is this?
Most doctors know very little about how to practice holistically.
Wirebrushitosis?!? Gaaak!
I bought one of those for Paul at Bed Bath and Beyond. It was probably one of the best things I ever bought for him. Just make sure to take a 20% off coupon with you.
Several years ago, I was having some pain in my shoulder that sometimes went down into my arm. It felt like some nerve was being pinched. At some point, I was racing through the livingroom to answer the kitchen phone and tripped over a diningroom chair leg and literally Hit The Wall. I had a bruise on my face, which was not pleasant, but I noticed later that the shoulder pain was gone. So, I’m guess that jolt actually realigned my body. That’s why I mentioned the chiropractor to you.
Yo Margaret: See my #95…
You are much too funny, Margaret!
Know what happened to me? I’ve been using muscles I thought I didn’t have lately and have experienced some persistent lower back pain. The other day I rode my bike for the first time since starting working again and it went away. I rode on Wednesday and Thursday and this morning I feel great.
You’re too funny, too, demi!
Mine was 50 cents at a garage sale. I know, that’s rubbing it in.
Sometimes I get joint pain from sitting still too long. If I walk up a few flight of stairs and then down again, the pain is nearly always gone.
Got it, thanks.
Updated
I gave him his for Christmas a few years ago.
I’m sure this is rhetorical for you, but it always bears repeating:
Lift with the legs, not the back. Takes some effort initially, but gets easier over time. Moreover, it builds strength in those large muscle groups which (in turn) burn calories much more efficiently, even at rest.
Lovely. I understand many of us aged sorts need to use those muscles to avoid trouble later, as well.
My kinda pricing…
It was a wake up call for me to slow down. I do have an answering machine. Sometimes I get my priorities mixed up.
I’m treating my daughter to a manicure today in the salon I like to frequent. I am getting a mani-pedi… she declined the pedicure for now.
Maybe it’s just a matter of loosening those muscles up and I plan to ride at least three times a week from now on.
Yes! Let the answering machine act as if it’s a butler.
I’m quite sure it isn’t shingles. There is no rash. And besides, I’ve had the shingles vaccine. This is internal, just to the right side of my spine, and my right arm also aches and sometimes tingles. My internist said the nerves to the arm come from the neck, not the thoracic area, so the pain between my shoulder blades isn’t directly related to the arm.
I was really surprised at how readily he responded to the acupuncture suggestion. And I really, really like the MD. He is a physical medicine and rehabilitation specialist. But $280 per session (takes a full hour, and he is with me the entire time). YIKES.
Thanks but I don’t do a bunch of lifting. I am on my feet all day though.
I have to take a shower and wash my hair, but I’ll be back in a few minutes.
My next door neighbors have honeybees. They don’t collect the honey. They just wanted to add to the general supply because of the honey bee collapse. They said they’ve swarmed a couple of times. They also said that they recognize their voices and that the bees are calm when they hear their voices.
My shoulder pain went away when I was helping clear land in April. Oddest thing. Speaking of which, I’m still owed money for that….
Hmmm. No I haven’t, although sometimes when I get up in the morning if it’s achy I use a heating pad for a half hour or so and that seems to help. My doc thinks it relaxes the muscles around the area.
He seems to think that it is a “wound” from arthritis (he explained the concept carefully) that has to heal over, apparently will create a bone spur, and then the pain will subside. But he really thought the acupuncture might help.
You really need to follow Crane-Station on dumpster diving, it’s amazing what turns up that folks just threw out. This was unusual, tho.
My husband installed a new faucet in the kitchen sink a couple of weeks ago. Sounds OT, doesn’t it? But, the new faucet has a much longer neck and I have noticed a big difference in my posture as I’m rinsing the dishes. (I don’t have a working dish washer, so sometimes there are a lot of dirty dishes to be done by hand.) The old faucet was lower and I was leaning in a fashion that cause some lower back discomfort.
I guess we all have to pay attention to the little aches and pains, as they are messages to our brains that we need to pay attention to.
Will do, thanks!
Just shot you an email at your new addy.
I certainly wouldn’t shy away from the acupuncture – my experience was with much too commercial an operation, as I found out. But massage cushions are quite nice. Also exercise, as Margaret pointed out.
Maybe I should change the outgoing message to My apologies, but the madame is currently unavailable to you at the moment. ?
The bicycling is always good. You might want to consider hanging upside down (seriously) for a few minutes at the end of the day. Rig up some sort of contraption to do that or (better yet) go with an inversion table. It’s not gimmicky. It really does stretch out the spine, which tends to get a bit compressed after a long day of being on one’s feet. (That whole “gravity” thing…if you believe in that theory, that is. We all know it hasn’t been proven…you know, just like evolution..)
Nice of him, and good for you, that works. Yes, taking a bit of time to adjust our bodies properly does quite a lot of good, and I have to remind myself of that when I’m gardening.
You might want to go over there and remind these people that it’s quite difficult to walk if they don’t have knees. They’ll pay up, maybe even with interest… heh
Got it!
All of these things should be used in combination and none to excess. Humans were made to be active but not always under stress. We evolved to spend our lives out in the sun….but for only half the time. Exercise is imporatnt but giving yourself a heart attack or heat stroke isn’t the best way to become and remain healthy!
I’ve noticed that the gardening is tough on the knees and the back. Increasingly so.
I like it. Very catchy and provocative.
I’m glad you remembered. :)
Oops. Maybe I’ll rethink the madam part.
In politics and economics we view the right as having lots of conviction based on little to no evidence. Anecdotes and hearsay satisfies them. Health care is at least as important. I have recently subscribed to consumer reports health care. They have had a good reputation for being evidence based.
Agree, am not of the competitive type and find that trying to get to goals, which many exercise routines include, is not for me. And it sure is easy to get a heat stroke hereabouts.
I ride my bike (weather permitting) nearly every day. The last two summers (meaning late April until early November) I’ve ridden 1,000 miles. I’ve ridden nearly 50 miles this week, since the rain has cleared. My internist pointed out that posture when riding my bike is not going to help the back pain where it’s located because of how you position your back and arms on a bike (semi upright, sort of stiff).
I was going to the rec center on campus every other day starting about January, and I think I may have exacerbated a back problem, perhaps by poor positioning on one of their machines. But it may have been something else. I quit going when the back started hurting and haven’t gone back but it still hurts.
At my age, it’s patch, patch, patch!
Have a new gardening technique. No more than fifteen minutes at a time.
Cool. Now I gotta figure out how to make gmail forget your old addy.
The alternative of throwing your body into a wall probably wouldn’t be a prudent suggestion from me.
Nah! I totally trust him. He’s at Kerrville puttin’ his hippie on at the moment.
Yeah, maybe you’re right about that. Could create problems with the zoning commission. More red tape…just what we need, right?
Yeah, I want one of those hangy upside down thingys.
This reminds me of an aunt who insisted running is bad for you, after she slipped and fell running on the beach, and broke something.
When we mean well, and it just falls apart on us, is the worst.
Consumer Reports accepts ZERO advertising. Good rep, those dudes…
Ah ha. Like with a diet plan of smaller portions. I like it.
Banging my head against said wall might! LOL.
So you actually believe that “gravity” theory, then? See if the GOP nominates you for President…
Mornin’ All !
my beloved oldnslow has begun a cycle of Cluster Headache a few months back – scarier than hell at the onset thankyewverymuch. that they showed up at the exact same time every day was the only thing that kept me from completely losing it :D
anyhoo, liquid Vitamin D3 is supposed to help reduce them – we picked up some from Vitamin Shoppe as well, but a little early in the regimen to see any results
through the internets, we learned there are homeopathic capsaicin based products that lessen the intensity – downright miraculous ! urge anyone dealing with migraine or other chronic headaches take a look in to it
also too – oldnslow has suffered from psoriasis on his hands and feet (he works with both) for several years and several doctor visits, and Dead Sea Salts took care of that rather dramatically
mad firedog love to all – with shoutouts to homies demi and margaret – mwah !
i’ve often had good responses to acupuncture for low back pain. speaking as a former massage therapist, the pain between your shoulder blades might be muscular from physical stress of working at a desk/computer. or it could be from emotional stress. here’s an exercise you can try, if i can describe it in words.
sit on the floor cross legged with a small pillow or folded over blanket under your butt. if this is too difficult, then sit on something that has no back, like a stool or ottoman. place your hands on top of your shoulders, with the thumbs over the back and the rest of the fingers over the front. in this position, bring your forearms up to as close to parallel to the floor as you can comfortably get them. then, breathe in as you turn your upper body to the left and breathe out as you turn your upper body to the right. do this rythmically for a count of 54 in each direction. work up to that, if you can’t do that many at the beginning. you can also do this very fast as you get more comfortable with it.
there are other exercises that are also helpful, but this one is the most effective that i know of. if this helps and you want to know others. or if it doesn’t help and you want to know others, ask me in the threads.
Also known as “pushaways.”
Yeah, I’ve probably pissed away my chances with both the GOP and the Vichycrats. I can’t succumb to my despair though but battle on.
Hah. And good morning!
We have a higher faucet now, too, and it does help tremendously!
That would be hilarious!!!
…but have your husband do the voice.
It’s 9:45 a.m. here, and my tummy is complaining that it’s empty, so I think I will go cook up a hearty Saturday morning breakfast and then see if I can tackle a chore or two. It was supposed to be stormy this morning, but the sun is out and it’s quite pleasant. Good day for being out, and a bike ride later, too!
I will peek in again Have a great day, everyone.
You’re pretty hilarious, too, Shoto!
That’s awful. When I was married to my former husband I used to get terrible headache, which I stopped having after he left me. Stress? Maybe. Perhaps with the overtime dough, it will reduce some of the worries, although 10 hour days, six days a week does not sound like fun. Gosh, it’s always something, isn’t it?
I bet you’re looking forward to next weekend, huh?
Just put the accent on the last syllable of madame!
cbl! How are you sweet lady? Sorry to hear about oldnslow but thanks for the dead sea salts tip. Gonna try that on my elbows.
Thanks, greenwarrior, I will try that. Being retired, I no longer sit at a desk, and my computer is in my lap mostly. And I have very little emotional stress, so I doubt it’s that. I just have lots of arthritis, even though I am so flexible I can bend over and put my hands flat on the floor.
But the exercise can’t hurt, and it may loosen things up in that spot.
Edit to add: If I understand, I am supposed to grip my shoulders with my hands. I can’t do that, especially with the right, since I broke my arm as a child and it won’t bend. I can barely touch the shoulders. But it’s the position that’s important, I assume.
So if he leaves her, it will help? (sorry, couldn’t help myself.)
My sister lost her migraines after stopping birth control pills. I don’t recommend that to him, either.
Now, am going to go get things done, and thanks for the good company and counsel, and the laughs.
I take 3 to 4 thousand units. The number of which I speak are the blood test numbers.
Yeah, dudes. Unfortunately the top three officers are all dudes and of the dozen or so management team, only three are dudettes. Have to make some noise about that.
I cannot recommend that type of adjustment, either. Too much pain involved.
Some people don’t have that will power. I go with smaller portions to start.
I calls ‘em like I sees ‘em… heh…
Ditto on the YIKES. I certainly hope it helps.
GM!
OK do you mean 54 reps, or hold while I count to 54??
Going to carry on with my Saturday. Good to see all the pups. :)
it might be worth investing in some very supportive shoes if you don’t already have them. is the floor cement? if you’re mostly standing in one place and could get one of those gel pad type of mats, that could be really helpful as well.
I was thinking that too.
Another little tip…I massage my feet every night before I go to bed. I took a little class in foot reflexology many years ago. I rub over the joints in the balls of my feet and do a 10 count right circular rub over my instep. I used mentholatum rub. I also massage my neck, shoulders and head. Feels good and I believe it helps me sleep better.
Don’t know if it is the same thing, but I sometimes have similar problems. For me, it triggers vomiting. Basically it is pulling on the Vegas nerve.
I’ve found that being back on my knees on the floor and stretching one arm out, then as much as possible lowering my body down, stretches the area the arm and the side. I usually push down with my shoulder, release, and repeat. Repeat for the other side.
You might want to look into something that strengthens the core muscles: kettlebells or pilates or yoga. I do kettlebells, which has helped a lot.
Didn’t know that. Worth rattling their cage on that one…
Medicine looks at the body as a machine, which it isn’t. It’s a complex process involving physical components.
Those are both great ideas, Margaret!
very much looking forward to next week end ! woo hoo ! grandbabies here we come !!!!
it does sound like your headache was stress related – oldnslow’s “chronic” arthritis in his lower joints miraculously disappeared when he cut a specific person out of his life
the cluster headaches scared the livin ***t out of us ! really dude, all we’ve been through and now that we’re looking at calmer waters you bust out with a brain tumour ?!?! why I oughta :D the capsaicin was/is genuinely miraculous – I cried when it worked (choking up again thinking about it)
i’d call you just to hear the message! please don’t answer the phone.
Same diff. Your way is actually better in the larger scheme of things, as stuff left on the plate tends to get pitched, whereas stuff remaining in the serving apparatus tends to become leftovers.
Good to see you too. Miss you. Can’t get up early enough to chat with you here anymore.
Heh…
Tee Hee.
Many thanks to everyone who dropped by today… what a wonderful chat we have had today!
I hope you all will feel better… assuming you try some of my suggestions.
Now I am all dry-brushed, sugar-scrubbed, showered and with hair washed. Have to get dressed and leave pretty soon. My appointment is at 11:00 and I want to look for some herbs and flowers for my daughter’s patio, too.
My boyfriend, Paul, takes some migraine medicine for his headaches. I think he buys it over the counter, too, at the supermarket.
I’ll check back in here when I get home later…
That’s why I was so interested in the approach this acupuncture doc took. LONG interview about my personality, feelings, reactions, the type of person I am, my likes and dislikes. Really dug into that. He is into the fire, water, wood, metal, earth stuff, which is very eastern I think.
We have a store here called The Walking Company” They provide insets for your shoes which are based on your foot pressure pattern. My SO uses them and is delighted with the results. I already use an insert which just happened to work well for my feet. Superfeet is one brand, I don’t even remember the one I use. They are at least 10 years old and going strong, especially when backpacking.
Cluster headaches are frightening. I used to have sinus headaches that would go on for a few days, hormone related I think, because they disappeared with menopause and I almost never have any kind of headache now.
Oh, honey. Don’t it always seem to go, that you don’t know what you’ve got ’till it’s gone? I didn’t realize how much stress I was under until it was gone.
Brain tumor? I have a bad habit of jumping to the worst possible conclusion too. Why do I do that?
Excellent and highly successful post, KM. Have a wonderful time with your daughter and I’m glad she’s feeling better. She is, right? You’re a great mom and she’s blessed to have you in her life.
i am a big proponent of hot baths….open your lymph system,and Mr.Eppy(salts) filled with magnesium…great stuff
waiting on my housekeeper,have a happy day everyone~
how ya doin there workin’ gal ! think of you and your Neko every day
is there a Sprouts in San Antonio ? they have huge buckets of the stuff for only $20 – it was $32 on Amazon. the positive effects were all but instantaneous
p.s. he’s not gonna like that I was talking about his ailments, but he can just get over himself – have tried to steer him in the direction of more natural/homeopathic remedies for years and now I am a huge two for two, so it will be much easier to get him to try things going forward – thank dog !!!
54 reps.
sinus headaches are not hormone induced,migraines are however
migraines are like hot flashes…vaso motor
we are extremely happy with Sinus Buster™ (Walgreens, CVS, etc)
Thanks!! I will try it this morning!
You aint’t alone!
Hi ya, Sadly. I’m drawing one now. At my other house, I had a jacuzzi in the back yard. Nice gazebo with jasmine. Now, I have to settle for baths, but at least it’s an oversized tub with a skylight above it.
Well, they coincided with my periods. Maybe they were migraines but I had no aura and they were around my right eye in the sinus area. And they went away with menopause. Sounds like hormones and sinus to me.
brain tumor – I went there because of the intensity (some docs call ‘em “suicide headaches” because that’s where the sufferer goes) he couldn’t see out of the eye on the affected side, good god it was hideous
migraines respond to strong coffee,because it is a vasoconstrictor
in the midst of a migraine,your arteries are dilated…that is the throbbing…oops gota run..Rosie is here
I won’t mention it. If he doesn’t read PUAC, you’re okay. Or, as you say, he can get over his own bad self.
If Kris hasn’t found a job yet, maybe he can take some of slow’s chores on to balance out his new work schedule. You’re just gonna kiss and kiss and cuddle and read and bake cookies with those babies. (I’m green.)
here i go off to do the breakfast dishes. have a great day, everyone.
I like reading in the tub. One evening, I took the book I was reading about a winter trip to northern Alaska, written as a diary. So, here I am soaking in a warm tub and reading about freezing! Then I noted the date of the entry, and realized that it was the same day and month as the evening I was taking my bath!
Syncronicity, Baby. I love it when that kind of stuff happens. I like to think that I’m somehow aligned properly with the universe.
Demi, cbl, pups,
Good morning all. Work is working wonders on the health front presently. In two weeks dropped almost 15 lbs between paying job, gardens demanding attention and already offering generous rewards and I even took the time to launch my small row-boat for a three mile pull around a small inland lake at first light this morning. Deciding to put the effort into taking that outdoor break is a mental health game-changer in and of itself. Coffee toast and fresh eggs never tastes so good as when I am back from that quick mini vacation. I am hoping for a good outcome for you and oldnslow, cbl.
thanks non !
didn’t know about the paying job – excellent ! wow, three miles as a start ? you’re my hero !
Sounds wunnerful, nonquixote!
o peeps back for one little note
if you are subject to migraine headaches
skip Ginkgo…it is a vasodilator…plus new research sez,it doesnt help anyway…..bbl
edit blood vessels
Syncronicity is particularly powerful when it is accompanied by a revelation. Last night, I searched for a particular piece of music on Youtube, found it with pictures from Hubble etc. One image took me completely out of my body, for the briefest moment, and I was totally connected to this enormity of the universe in which we reside, as vanishingly small. I got that so strongly, I could hardly move, couldn’t say anything coherent about it.
I still cannot. But without the combination, I wouldn’t have connected in that manner.
terrrif!
I have to get ready for work as well – lovely chatting with y’all again
everyone take care, thanks Karen – mad firedog love to all
i was speaking of an ordinary hot bath….great for our bodies,vasodilator too
Very, very cool! Was wondering where you were, but hadn’t imagined anything as romantic. Talk about Self Help.
Me too. I just miss my jacuzzi.
You can send Rosie over to my place when she’s finished at yours. :)
After you’ve had a revelation/experience like that, death doesn’t have the scary sting, does it?
Take care all. Fabulous Post and comments.
It is a small boat based on a shape that rows easily and glides with minimal effort, from before the days of outboard motors. Finding the required DNR boating safety gear and trucking everything to the lake and then cleaning the boat afterward at the launch site to prevent spreading invasive weeds to another lake is the hard part.
Sweat, a light cold rain and clouds of mosquitoes at the boat launch does it for you too? You’d be the girl of my dreams if you wasn’t already spoken for. The sun is breaking through and I am off. The last pickings of asparagus are waiting. Glad to have the chance to stop by, thanks KarenM for prompting the self-care ideas.
I didn’t have time to read single comment, but I’m going to have to go on record as wondering why this post is on FDL?
IMHO, this practice falls somewhere between colon cleansing, which I have never done, and am still miraculously a very healthy 54 yo man, and shamanism.
Someone had to say it out loud.
Maybe better suited to Mother Earth News.
And really? Front page?
Looking forward to it. Working on announcement and registration. Getting excited.
You must be new here. Christy Hardin Smith began the Saturday morning Pull Up A Chair posts years ago as a welcome break from the stress of politics. It is very popular. If you don’t want to participate, don’t read it.
Not at all. I feel I have had still another glimpse at infinity, and there is much to do there!
Alright, already. All you gun waving PUAC pups, put your weapons down and stop forcing people to read our uplifting, positive and supportive Saturday morning thread.
I’m such a kidder.
Properly admonished. Point made. I’m not above apologizing for being a bit boorish.
My two cents is simply that the act of taking time to brush yourself, and the energizing sensations you gain from stimulating your skin IS the direct benefit, not necessarily related to the release of ‘toxins’.
FWIW, not ‘new’, but also not an inveterate commenter, either. I am a contributing member, and I challenge those of you who aren’t, and are regular FDL’ers, to give now. please? TTFN
Two words, medical marijuana.
Apology accepted. I’m a member too.
Not only is Pull Up A Chair a place and time to take a break from the stress of politics, but it’s a wonderful opportunity to get to know the other members of the Lake. We are a community. We care about each other. It’s a postive side of the internet.
Thanks for clarifying. We had another commenter on this thread a couple of weeks ago who admonished us for frivolous chit chat. We had someone else stop by to chide a few of us on the Morning Swim thread for wandering off topic when most everyone had moved on. I apologize too, if I was a bit curt. There’s a big variety here, and folks don’t need to feel obligated to read every post. I know I don’t, or I’d never eat or sleep.
And FWIW I am also a member.
RevBev asked for a post on self-care… so I did one.
Besides, those who do not have health care yet need to know what they can do to take better care of themselves.
Perhaps you did not actually read the post? I provided links for everything I cited.
I am already a member!
Terrific post!
Like the immune system therapy; terrific ideas.
I recommend D3 rather than plain D. It is reportedly helpful with pain management and since I’m dealing with neuropathy and osteoarthritis in several locations, I’ve found it helpful.
I recommend taking alpha lipoic acid (600mg/day) for the best available antioxidant; and of course the B’s – 1, 3, 6, and 12, all of which have helped in managing, but probably improving my neuropathy.
I’m usually doing yoga twice a week and try to get to the pool at least once a week for aerobic walking, etc. and if my shoulders ever heal enough, I hope to be able to swim again. And I’m finally being able to walk up to 12 blocks at a time.
Diet wise, we’re not vegetarians, though I we do eat a lot of fruits and veggies at every meal, lean protein – including lots of beans, whole grains, and minimal fat of any kind. Had lost 30 pounds last fall and somehow, by the grace of God, not piled it back on. Holding steady and trying to get back into loss mode again.
Because of all my pain syndrome problems, any serious activity, like above, or even a serious shopping trip, I need several hours or several days to recover from the exertion because of the whole body pain that results from exertion, which I love in the midst of it, but I hate the required recovery time.
Being with folks of similar interests and spirituality helps me in self care and I thank God for his provision of that network. Daily reading of at least some of FDL is also part of my self-care, and some spiritual reading from a variety or resources, altho I’ve yet to get to a longed for disciplined spiritual time of offices, scripture and prayer. Right now I’m preparing for a full liturgical confession with a woman Lutheran pastor who has become a spiritual sister in so many ways, and this whole process has become very much a part of self=care program.
Blessings to all,
Thank you for enriching the thread. Good luck with all your efforts, physical & spiritual, and I hope you are able to manage the pain problems.
Very difficult.
To everyone who responded around my post and apology, thank you for your input. Sincerely. Happy trails to you
I like you a whole lot, too, nonquixote!!!