I’ve always found the expression “Israel, right or wrong” to be disturbing. We know that countries, like people, can make mistakes — sometimes serious ones. And history shows that unconditional nationalism isn’t a virtue — it’s dangerous.
But “Israel, right or wrong” is the sentiment that ran through Eric Cantor’s speech at AIPAC yesterday. For him, peace is all up to the Arabs, because Israel is completely blameless.
If the Palestinians want to live in peace in a state of their own, they must demonstrate that they are worthy of a state.
To Mr. Abbas, I say:
Stop the incitement in your media and your schools.
Stop naming public squares and athletic teams after suicide bombers.
And come to the negotiating table when you have prepared your people to forego hatred and renounce terrorism – and Israel will embrace you.
Until that day, there can be no peace with Hamas. Peace at any price isn’t peace; it’s surrender.
And to Israel what do you say, Congressman?
Does Cantor really think actions like Israel’s 2006 invasion of Lebanon, which killed nearly 1,200 Lebanese civilians and injured more than 4,400, don’t have negative consequences? Does he not believe that the inhumane conditions in Gaza and elsewhere have further radicalized Israel’s enemies?
On its present course Israel is on its way to becoming a pariah state, a status in which it cannot indefinitely or even perhaps long survive. Neither the fact that Israel faces a profound cultural animosity among the region’s Arab populations nor the bad faith that often greets its actions nor even the anti-Semitism that is sometimes beneath the animus changes this essential fact. The make-up of the 21st century world is simply not compatible with a perpetual military occupation of another people, especially one that crosses a boundary of ethnicity and religion. Only the willfully oblivious can’t see that.
I’ve had so many conversations with American and Israeli hardliners who say essentially, why give up this land as long as the Palestinians won’t do this or that thing? Such folly. As though the settlements of the West Bank were a thing of great value as opposed to a lethal threat. Like you insist on keeping the knife in your belly as opposed to removing it at the first opportunity because someone else you’re negotiating with won’t do what you want.
A true friend doesn’t just tell you what you want to hear. And Eric Cantor just told Israel — and it’s supporters here in America — that’s it’s okay to keep holding the knife in its belly.



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Does Cantor have dual citizenship with Israel?
#Winning
First Obama panders to AIPAC…
And now Cantor is pandering to AIPAC.
BOTH the Democrats and Republicans are corrupt to the core.
“The struggle against religion is, therefore, indirectly the struggle against that world whose spiritual aroma is religion. Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness. To call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them to give up a condition that requires illusions. The criticism of religion is, therefore, in embryo, the criticism of that vale of tears of which religion is the halo.”- Karl Marx
Israel right or wrong may be fine for an Israeli, but Cantor’s not an Israeli. For an American it makes no sense at all.
The first part of the quote:
From the Introduction to Contribution to Critique of Hegel’s Philosophy of Right, 1843
Oh well, here we go: Cue the predictable Kabuki Show. Send in the usual jugglers & clowns and let’s watch them *distract* the rubes with b.s. Whatever… Cantor… he had the nerve to blame “Democrats” for the Dachau sign that Tea Partiers proudly displayed when protesting HCR:
http://politicalcorrection.org/blog/200911050007
I have no time to “listen” to the likes of a liar & serial creep like Cantor.
I have heard Christopher Hitchens quote part of that paragraph many times. It never really sat well with me. Now that I have read the whole paragraph, it seems Marx is talking in circles. Is that just me or am I missing something?
How about fairness. What is necessary for Israel is also necessary for Palestine. Every statement from anyone should be true with Israel and Palestine interchangeable. Security for Israel? Ok. Security for Palestine too.
And just cause one can never say it enough … why is the US paying for the military security of a country where everyone has single payer health care???????? While we “cannot afford” this for Americans?????
AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Blue Texan:
Given the growing fault lines between the American Jewish community and the Israeli Likud and the reality that US government subsidies of Israel are all that keep the Likud afloat politically, it seems to me that we should take a second look at Obama’s speech last week in light of the fact that Obama was the first to state publically what everyone in the reality based world has known for about 25 years. The US doesn’t even hafta threaten to reduce subsidies to Israel, all the Obama administration needs to do is expand support for democracy movements in Egypt and Tunisia and begin to squeeze the dictator in Yemen and we force the fascist Likud govenment into crisis at a time when they are all but isolated and can’t use a military adventure to divert domestic political attention.
Whether or not Obama expands his advantage in middle east politics and forces Israel into early elections and continues to sqeeze Saudi Arabia in so doing will go a long way to determining whether or not he gets a second term. This is setting up extremely well for the US for the first time in 40 years in the Middle East, unless Obama turns into ObamaRahma and snatches defeat from the jaws of victory.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, THE WAR IS EVERYWHERE!!
Citizen SouthernDragon:
Thanks for that morsel of protein for the mind…don’t usually see the “opium of the people” put in context. Keep the red flags flyin’ Brother Dragonman.
I interpret it to mean that religion is a self imposed illusion and is a lazy way of making sense of the world. In other words not really thinking about(contemplating) your current situation. This contemplating on this would require people to give up there religions because they will come to the eventual outcome that it is an illusion.
This one is always good for a laugh, seeing as we name so many things after war criminals.
David Harvey, a leading Marxist scholar, reminds us in his speeches not to take “slogans” from Marx’s works. Doing so does an injustice to the ideas of Marx and does nothing for the credibility of the one doing the quoting. I’m not a fan of Marx’s social philosophy but his critique and analysis of capitalism as a political economist is spot on.
Lurvs ya, Norske ~ always happy to see you here and especially to hear all your good news of happenings on the ground in WI ….
You paint a very interesting picture, I just wish Obama were not running this show. His track record is abyssmal.
Actually, Obama wasn’t pandering, which is why Cantor was having his staged bit of freaking out.
Name one pol inside the beltway who doesn’t pander to AIPAC.
Unfortunately, I know of at least one hardcore Jewish Republican who does have dual citizenship and is in fact a member of the IDF — and believes everything Bibi and Avi say. Apparently, the more religiously observant — and conservatively religious — you are, the more likely this is to happen. As people get less religious overall, it’s the mild, liberal versions of the faith that lose the most adherents, which makes the remaining religious that much nuttier and conservative.
Eric Cantor (R-Virginia) is up for re-election in 2012.
For a second there, I thought you were referring to Rahm Emanuel, but then I realized you meant “Republican” literally.
Every member of the House is up for re-election next year. His being from VA gives him an edge from the get go. Very conservative state. VA wholeheartedly embraced the Southern Strategy. I grew up there.
according to cantor,
they exist, and as such, why is not that “demostration” enough of their worthiness to aspire for statehood?
neither aipac nor US congressmen do themselves any favours in insisting on denying human birthrights and legitimate aspirations of peoples to statehood that governs in the interests of its citizens and palestinian arabs, semites, have not had that luxury for over 60 years
How about this:
Fair is fair ~ that’s my prescription from here on out. All this fidding around the edges while favoring Israel is utter unproductive nonsense. It will never lead to peace. I has only led to more conflict.
Karl was wrong here as in so many other areas – rich kid born into a Jewish Lutheran family acted in his personal life much life like our Arnold Schwarzenegger, with most likely a kid by the housekeeper.
But he got some things right, in my opinion, and forced a discussion of topics that needed a discussion. And he was most certainly correct that religion promotes solidarity of those in society – albeit that annoyed him as he wanted to change a few things.
Sorry – but I and a few others see a rich family fellow, with darker colored skin in a light colored skin world (he was called the Moor) that wants change from the control of society by his fellow rich family kids, and sees that one of the obstacles to that change was the Church not pushing the rich of his day to change and actually begin to worry about the common man.
The solution you may like is liberation theology – no need to reject religion – but then YMMV.
Cantor apparently wants Palestinians to have to abide by arbitrary and moving requirements, but they already meet the qualifications of the Foreign Relations Law of the United States § 201:
opinion here
According to these requirements, the defined territory part is the only problem. IMO It’s a hostage situation.
Cantor never bothered to serve in the US military, so why should he care what happens? He also does not need dual citizenship (as one opined) since, as a Jew, he can emigrate after he impoverishes us all with tax cuts.
Regarding blaming the Palestinians naming parks after terrorists, what about monuments like that to the American racist settler Baruch Goldstein?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baruch_Goldstein
Just to be clear, I lived and worked in Israel and the West Bank as an archaeologist while my wife lived on a Kibbutz. We actually put our sweat into Israel–unlike people like Cantor who claim to support Israel only to get something out of it.
In just one succinct paragraph, The Onion humorously captures the entire essence of US policy towards Israel:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/government-official-who-makes-perfectly-valid-well,20499/
The problem in Israel is political.The country was founded by the left and has been taken over by the right because of demographic changes,the increase in the population that came from Arab countries and from the former Soviet Union. Both groups are more likely to be Likud supporters and the increase in the Orthodox population is a further boon to the right.
Until the day comes when the left,who ran the country from its founding in 1948 until 1974,can come back to power,there is little chance of peace.